AMD Turion x2 Ultra ZM-84 + RadeonHD 3200 vs Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 + GMA4500MHD Gaming performance.

[darkkaiju899]

sorry for another post but what is the windows base score for the amd turion zm-84?

[darkkaiju899]

intel graphics are a nightmare!

[seba3001]

@ElectronicsFanBoy However, if you compare the price points for laptops with this specs, the story changes: Intel's capability to integrate their systems to reduced space has a history of being limited compared to AMD's

[maplesingapore]

@ElectronicsFanBoy What they are comparing is IGP(Build inside the Northbridge). Not Delicated GPU + IGP.

IGP=Build Inside northbridge/CPU. AMD 780G Northbridge = ATi Radeon HD3200. Intel GM45 = Intel GMA4500MHD. So it counted fair. Both are build into the Northbridge. None of them are dedicated chips. If you are comparing it with a Nvidia GPU, you should compare with a Nvidia Base chipset IGP. LIke Nvidia Geforce 8300 Chipset with AMD 790GX(Radeon HD 3300) chipset. That will be very reasonable.

[dennisjonkristensen]

Intel cpu is the best but ther GPU´s suck like justin beiber

[Mario0Dante]

AMD+ATI was the best thing that ever happened, now i have notebook that was cheap and i could afford, but packed with Turion X2 and ATI HD3200, delivering some small gaming performance at the price of a regular notebook.

[kristjanmn]

as you know, then GMA4500MHD is laptop video card, so it was recorded on laptops and laptops are always slower

[PiirmaNils]

AMD owns ATI and Intel and nVidia are co operating. so try to find another way to be an ass

[DJFamou5]

Intel gpu suck, thats is why its slow, but ati is most in performance! Remember it guys! ;)

[ninjaangel87654]

wow thee intel processor is running so slowly because the motherboard was made for the amd processor.

[PiirmaNils]

@ninjaangel87654 LOL, how the hell can you manage to put an intel CPU in a AMD based socket. you have got some things confused.

[l3igmonkei]

My AMD Turion x2 Ultra 64 is a TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT

my roommate bought his Hp dv5 same time as me, but with an Intel processor...

I'm about to snap mine in half and toss it out the window, while his runs as smoothly as my tricked out my desktop i7 core processor w/ 16g RAM.

Oh.. and my laptop costed an extra $350 with the processor as only difference.

[mennogamer559]

amd has mutch better than intel intel has good for foto and movie working

[thung22]

Its not the CPU that made the difference. AMD system had better fps because of ATI Radeon GPU compare to Intel GMA integrated GPU. You cant really compare the dedicated video card to onboard graphic adapter such Intel GMA cause it has no dedicated graphic memory.

[Mario0Dante]

@thung22 But the videocard on the AMD notebook was a ATI HD3200...wich is also a integrated graphics card without dedicated graphics memory, thats where AMD shines, while intel offers you a better processor, AMD offers a better overall system.

[TheFeF97]

este video e suna mierda

[AeroFix94]

Intel Sucks! AMD Pwnz!! Have a Crappy Intel Pentium 4HT at 3,4Ghz gonna replace that with a AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3,0Ghz Dual core :D

[SuperKenneth1988]

this comparison is not fair.. the video card aren't similar.. the VGA card of intel are the reasons that the way the game slows.. and it's because of the 3d rendering.. by AGP 4500MHD.. and while AMD have the ATI.. but in speed of processor.. its the Intel are faster .. you dudes can check on Intel Benchmark vs AMD for better results.. :-)

[PiirmaNils]

@SuperKenneth1988 depends actually what are the clock speeds, dedicated memory for the GPU and defenetly the way you share the processing between the GPU and CPU.

[SuperKenneth1988]

WAIT!!!! guys check out the chipset of INTEL Core2DUO!! its not the processor that slows the game down.. it's the GMA 4500MHD!!

intel core2duo is better compare to this AMD turion X2!!!

this comparing thing is unfair... because the amd turion has ATI Radeon hd3200

while the core2duo have there slow 4500MHD

--why not compare Core2duo with GFORCE G-105M 512MB CUDA

vs that AMD turion X2 HD3200???????

Let's see whos fastest in gaming...

[adampilotf22]

wow hd3200 vs 4500mhd is the real comparison!

[HSSDamian]

intel fail when it comes to graphics cards, good with processors.

amd is decent with processors and the best with graphics cards

[philip3372]

Hey somebody know what motherboard i need to use amd processer?

[petagriffinfg1]

if i get a laptop with amd turion II ultra will i be able to play modernwarfare2 and bioshock 2 on it?

also if the core is 2.7GHz and there are 2 cores does that mean its 5.4GHz?

im looking to convert from ps3 to pc

[Lvieru96]

well yeah, it will run these games welll ;)

[tannermiddleton]

@petagriffinfg1 well it depends on your graphics card as to whether you can play those games as for the 2 cores at 2.7ghz equaling 5.4ghz no that is not how it works.

[SMGJohn]

No it doesn't, duel/quad core only means two/four cores running in 2.7GHz if it was going to be 5.4GHz it's a single core like your PS3 it has one core but 7 treads this treads are advanced bitches which i have little idea how they work. But they make your laptop/PC faster, here is some advices buy a laptop/PC with the most cores and if it is a 6GHz single core and a 1.6GHz Quad Core i take the 1.6GHz Quad Core.

[tube630271]

@SMGJohn Higher clocked single cores CAN outperform multi core processors, it depends on the application, but many are not multithreaded and rely on one core, thus I would choose frequency and cache over cores.

[andyjary]

STFU! You know nothing, idoit... did somebody type your message cos' you can't reach/use a keyboard?

[starscream0169]

jijij yea intel centrino + Nvidia kill AMD!! Amd only graphics card!! no processor!!

[lassin1234]

well ofcourse graphics card win, if the opponent doesnt use one? 0.o?

[bf42mario]

lol

they don't compare processors only graphics cards !!!!

Ati HD3200 is better than Intel GMA X4500, but

Intel C2D 8200 is much better than ZM-84

!!!!

[Aqwert76]

As if my i7 cant do that!

[desferd30991]

The video maker is stupid,

He should compare intel vs AMD with same VGA card they use.

[marcogugo]

...you didn't get the point, the vga which the laptop are using is the integrated one, so while amd has a decent one (the 3200) Intel still relies on the gma 4500, which to be honest is crap. Not that other Intel graphics shines, even the gma950 (still sold in many netbooks) has a VERY (and i mean, ****huge****) hole in the openGL support (partial support of the 1.3 OGL, which was released back in 2003...)

[nine9live5]

they both are using integrated graphics cards so its fair noob

[1993hondaaccord]

Did your mom drop you on your head ass a child? An intel 4500 is in noway anywhere close to being comparable to the Radeon 3200. All laptop graphics cards are intergrated, because they are all permantely mounted to the mobo. So what your telling me is that i could take the amd comp in this computer, and run it against my dv6-1360us, with a p7450 intel cpu and ati radeon 4650 and it would be fair? Dude your a fucking retard, simple as that.

[SMGJohn]

Not every laptop graphic card is integrated, many of the medium and high end are cards while smaller and less powerful graphic devices as integrated

[tube630271]

@1993hondaaccord Ever heard of MXM???

NOT integrated. Interchangeable.

[marcogugo]

@1993hondaaccord technically speaking, most low end gfx cards for laptops are indeed integrated (soldered chip): you can also find high end ones, which are indeed created and mounted on a so-called MXM slot. The thing is, as far as now MXM has evolved to at least the 3rd generation, and not all cards can be swapped between most laptops. So in the end you can change a today-laptop gfx card, but only if you find a pretty similar card made for a similar config (of course it will cost quite a lot)

[punk1sh]

are there any solutions about the amd getting hot?

[Soon2BeLegend]

The one on the right looks like my AMD system.....oh wait no it doesn't, mine is WORSE!

in about a half an hour on the AMD system, it will be hot. about 3 hours on the Intel, it'll still be cool. intel core 2 duo is the best dual core processor made. i play team fortress 2, halo, and a few other games on the core 2 duo desktops at my school & they handle them very well. no lag whatsoever. i play halo on my AMD system and a lot of lag. there is a lot of hard drive noises coming from AMD system

[FoxMcCloudMyHero]

Actually, i own a HP 6735B WITH the AMD zm-84 and the ATI HD 3200, and i play Crysis at medium without lag :D

[iankaufman80]

since crysis is YEARSSSSSSSSS old=='

[darknessRO02]

Intel GPU suck

[lenovoservice1]

@darknessro02

Agree.

intel GPU sux nvidia is better.

[iankaufman80]

totally, but CPU+nvidia=:D

[andyjary]

If you're talking nVidia notebook graphics, they're not too bad, but no DX 10.1 or 11 support and many of them have failed because of a manufacturing issue. So, better stick with AMD/ATI = a top and cost effective solution that won't let you down!

[iankaufman80]

@andyjary i beg to differ because my computer was about 600$ and has intel centrino and geforce 9300M gs cuda and i have dx11 installed with it when i got windows 7, and it is low-end...

[luiggiibanez]

hey dude, im sorry to tell ya you are wrong. The 9300m is ok (it does the job, just like the hd 3200) but i doesnt support dx11. windows 7 SUPPORTS directx 11 but u cant do shit bc ur the 9300m doesnt Btw i got a gateway with an athlon II 4 gb ram and a radeon hd 4200 graphics for 450 bucks

[tube630271]

@luiggiibanez DX11 support right now is meaningless, no games are utilizing and if it turns out to be like x10, it will do diddly.

[starscream0169]

esta comparacion es tan pedorra solo un menso de AMD lo hace de esa manera!!!

[seonjie]

1 more amd noob user, it is because the ati gf not because intel(the intel display procesor is not a gf)

[bboynaturalEMT]

@seonjie

Your the noob, they were comparing ATI integrated HD3200 to intel integrated 4500MHD

Noob intel user.

Who the fk talked about cpu anyway?

[seonjie]

fck u man

[seonjie]

fck u noob who use intel gc 1

[bboynaturalEMT]

when you buy a laptop IDIOT.

You dont chose your GPU mister smart ass, its integrated most of the time.

-.- gosh

[iankaufman80]

ya!!! mine had NVidia:DDD and centrino

[0nzo0]

Wait, althought i'm a noob i know that intel's GMA is NOT comparable to ATI or NVIDIA's graphic system:

It's like comparing a branded motherboard (gigabyte, msi, asus) and a generik one!

[maplesingapore]

The IGP is intergraded with the North-bridge.

ATi was known for the world's fastest IGP with thier RadeonHD 3300.

Not additional graphic chip which found on a Intel Notebook mothboard. (Eg. Intel G35 chipset with a Nvidia GeforceGO)

If IGP+ additional GPU chip(Hybrid-CrossfireX), it will be like IGP+GPU vs single GPU.

While you can't do hybrid graphic with Intel G35 and a Nvidia Chip. Maybe Nvidia notebook motherboard IGP+NvidiaGPU(hybrid-SLi)

[ilgallocanta]

MAGNIFIC

[alltimegamer247]

amd amd i got amd phenom 9550 or 940

[elwalvador]

Shit I just bought a laptop with a P8400. Oh well, it will at least be 2x faster than the laptop I'm using right now. Plus my graphics card will be better than the one featured here.

My current 2005 Dell has a Pentium M 730, 1 core, 1.6Ghz, 350FSB, 2MB L2 cache, 64MB Radeon graphics card.

My new one will be a HP HDX 18t, P8400, 2 cores, 2.26Ghz, 1066FSB, 3MB L2 cache, 512MB Nvidia graphics card.

It will be a huge improvement for me for less than $950. Plus I'm going from a 15" screen to 18"

[jzen2003]

AMD are into performance,.. Intel is just after your money. :D

[SuperKenneth1988]

@jzen2003

dude.. did you see the specs package of intel?! the intel has core2 duo but VGA are only 4500MHD its not fair..

while the AMD have 3200 HD?

what a joke:

why not --- core2duo with G105M Gforce CUDA Chipset VS AMD turion HD3200??????

[jhoc2x2]

@jzen2003 lol, cheers to that :)

[robsons6]

GMA LOL

[DangerousJohnh]

I lol'd hard at the GMA!

[vve1vve1]

but hte amd laptop so hot! and intel cpu + graphics card = gg LOL all depends on your budget, bang for your buck amd is the way want good performance and money isnt an issue then go intel!

i use AMD myself but i am very impressed by intels innovations.

[nortexoid]

You're shit. Intel IGPs are shit. That's why a faster CPU Core 2 Duo with Intel IGP gets murdered by a slower (but very much worthy!) AMD Turion X2 Ultra with faster (ATI) IGP.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a way faster IGP than unnoticeably faster CPU and dog slow IGP. Intel's graphics division is lame.

[verysmartboyz]

amd suites with ati graphics card and intel suites with nvidia graphic cards thats y!!!

[crazyacrobat108]

amd owns ati thats why

[peterinfamilyguy]

You dont have Intel GMA 4500HD for playing its for simple tasks not gaming

So AMD had a HUGEE advantage. Intel/Nvidia <3

Intel Core i7 940

nvidia GeForce Quadro 1600

[lalulala73]

fack wie kann man so was nur verarschen!!!Der P8400 ist viel besser.Ich habe ihn selber mit einer 9700M GT.Und wenn es keine Verarschung wäre dann ist es wegen der Grafikkarte

[andyjary]

Na, und? -> Dick Breath...

[Vertig0HTM]

ur the shit! stop posting fucking negative responses and enjoy your Intel! fanboy!

[BADASSEDWIN]

i dont want that comparison i want a comparison of the performance and speed!! For the online gaming I'll just play my PS3 =)

[andyjary]

Well, go play on your PS3 and don't watch it if you don't like the comparison.

Does the world really have this many clowns in it?

[edmonte3]

This validity of the test is very questionable, because the AMD computer is equipped with an HD3200, an on board graphic card which is a killer of the intel GMA graphic card, in terms of video game performance! Esse teste é meio furado por que o AMD está equipado com vídeo on board HD3200 que é muiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiito superior à intel GMA......

[nortexoid]

Hey idiot. It's fair because they're comparably PRICED and the AMD computer has a BUILT-IN *IGP*, just like the Intel machine, which happens to be AN INTEGRATED Radeon 3200. AMD may not have a CPU performance edge, but the graphics edge they have is HUGE and NOTICEABLE. (Intel's CPU advantage isn't even noticeable for most users.)

[edmonte3]

Suck my eggs and be happy....friend

[vovik55]

hahah amd suck at intel

[dbze8]

AMD turion and adhlon become easy very hot my sister have a acer ferrary with amd adhlon in 2 hr it become 59c.and my intel genuine core duo becom only 48c in 2hr but her laptop boot faster than mine cause the windows xpa nd vista i use vista

[avril4ewa]

AMD/ATI <3

[bykelife]

This is NOT a good comparison of processors. If you want a FAIR comparison you need to use the same GPU! Everyone knows the integrated Intel GPU is CRAP. A laptop that comes with ATI or NVidia GPUs are going to perform (decent) for games. My personal bias is ATI, but AMD laptops are not the only ones that come with ATI or NVidia GPUs! I bet you my A355-S6943 will blow both of these away :)) Keep in mind, if you are going to compare 1 aspect (processor), *ALL* others MUST BE SAME (RAM,GPU ETC)!!!

[andyqwerty1992]

This a comparison of their integrated graphic chips, the 3200 blows any intel graphics out of the water and that is what this is showing.The 3200 is probably the best intergrated chip ever made.

Look at this(average 3dmark06):

Nvidia geforce 8400GS(dedicated)- 1380

ATI Radeon HD 3200(intergrated)- 1436

An AMD integrated notebook GPU beats a mid-ranged nvidia DEDICATED! notebook GPU. That is something to be proud of.

[vitorbarbosa]

Intel Graphics aren't for gaming.. -.- I think this is a stupid comparison.. but.. w/e..

[berzerker11]

HAHAHA xD what a noob video XD

Intel way better!

[rkkutty]

Alright here's the clarification, In Laptops there are two types of graphics, 1 is IGP which stands for integrated graphics processor, the 2nd is a discrete graphics processor.

On the topic of IGP, to Which intel, amd/ati, and nvidia have chipsets. Intel is shit. The Nvidia 8200/8300 vs the ATI/AMD 3200 series is a reasonable matchup.

[IndianaSPEED]

Honestly, the ATI Radeon HD 3200 Onboard graphics is probably the best bang for you buck that you can get for a "casual" gaming laptop. Intel's 4500 GMA series is still very slow and still comparable to the GMA950 found in older computers and netbooks. Nvidia's 8200m is in the middle pack but still pretty darn slow. The 3200 ATi plays most (2005) and before games just like "gravy".

If you plan on doing light gaming and want decent power/battery life then get the HD 3200 laptops!

GO AMD/ATI!

[nanu0332]

i thought intel say their new integrated video card 4500MHD will play all the high end games but i tryed and it did not work! they can't play high end games INTEL IS LIER

[LordDestros]

"i thought intel say their new integrated video card 4500MHD will play all the high end games but i tryed and it did not work! they can't play high end games INTEL IS LIER"

When did they ever claim that o.O. Hell, even higher end dedicated graphics can have a hard time going through the latest games.

[buckyaroo]

AMD sucks at playing Fps Creator X10 on high.

[Liguzh]

which is better the turion x64 ultra or intel core 2 quad?

and if it a good game processor, odes it means that it runs well on any other application right?

[maplesingapore]

You are comparing an Apple to An orange.

[zexion65]

um is this one good

AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile technology RM-74 / 2.2 MHz

[sanjose21ca]

They fail to tell you that with those specs, the AMD laptop will run out of batteries in about 1.5 hrs, while the intel will run for a good 3-5 hrs depending on configuration

[nanu0332]

LAME! i have a intel laptop and the battery only last me for 1 or 2 hours and my friend has a AMD laptop and it lasted him for 3 - 4 hours INTEL FAIL!

[bihohran]

are you fucking retarded its intel on board graphics not ati or nvdia

[crawcc]

AMD contiene una targeta grafica, e INTEL tiene chipset

[fear5300]

It's still intregrated....

[Twinfun2]

Lmao...i watched and i was like no way....till i saw his comment.

...what a fcked up comparison.

[niggasoffdablock]

umm... ur comparing high end mobile graphic chipset to intergrated piece of shit.

[mellovicious]

dude, the mobile hd3200 is not really to be considered as high end but certainly better than integrated surely....

[niggasoffdablock]

your right its not the highest end... but its mid range to high end... i mean only fast chips are 9800 gtx m

anything blow are fairly similar...

[omgmeow]

They are both integrated graphics solutions, and both platforms are similarly priced.