Gymnastics pull push core 171207

[TheChiliLime]

My God! He looks like an Olympic God!

[NickRoy50DKP]

Hands down, gymnast are top athletes. If you pull one person from any sport, 9 out of 10 times, the gymnast will do well in all the sports over the others

[rsguitarfan]

@NickRoy50DKP You have watched GSP :P

[enlargemedia]

Great holistic approach, such a great perspective.

[cirocar]

Duuude thanks for that first exercise. Damn I never thought of that. I was wondering all the time how I could do some kind of an exercise that was a progression to a muscle up. I tried inverting the movement of the muscle up but you need someone to spot you when doing that. This is an awesome solution! thanks man!

[RicardoBatsbak]

He can train his body as much as he want. But he can never train that glass jaw.

[shenkeey]

@RicardoBatsbak Why would you want to not have that?

[MrTesla725]

How many times a week do you guys train like that?

[bezkoszulki]

hes weak or what

[MrBojanKareli]

lol za pesmu bre... :D xD 'ladno pesma iz filma "crna macka beli macor"... :D xD

[pietro0079]

@FridgeNatious >>>>>U speaking english bro.....????? 

[pietro0079]

@FridgeNatious just cause u cant pull it off......dont hate buddy......

[harrignos]

is that Jewish music in the background? Awesome.

[robotroid]

Hey guys, please let me know if my video was worth posting, it's on my page, thanks!!

[yourasianbuddytrevor]

@robotroid No.

[robotroid]

@yourasianbuddytrevor ok, I'll delete it in some time then...

[MrArbitrager]

i don't believe that u can't do a muscle up; you look easily big enough. Maybe ur just not getting the false grip

[trulynot]

Hey, he explained why a lot of gymnasts have the hunched rounded shoulder look.

[spurrell]

cloths

[TheDostoyevsky]

music is "Bubamara" from "Black Cat White Cat" :)

[steffen9593]

this is bullshit for muscle building you have to do it slower

[kettlebellconvert]

that sure explains why all those olympic lifters- who specialize in fast lifts- are so... small?

get your head out of the muscle mags.

[happymand]

@kettlebellconvert Eh. The speed of the lift has nothing to do with size. It's about control. I'm assuming someone made a comment about slowing down, so I guess I'm responding to the wrong person. Oh well too late now lol.

[mikeashtube]

Faster movement activates fast-twitch muscle fibres which are more responsive to growth, so slow is not always good for muscle building. And err, look at the guy in the video he's obviously not bulding any muscle with his fast workout is he?

[neostevenroth]

fast twitch does necesarily mean fast movement. the name fast twitch is related of the endurance capacity and force generation potential of the fiber. olympic lifts are more dependent on tendon rigidity, neuromuscular reactivity, and myofibril density rather than cross-sectional area of muscles.

[ItzSmiiHomeBoy]

dunno wtf u just said.. sounds bout right tho!

[billysue2]

no ye dont always have to go slow to grow,and not everyone cares about faggot bodybuilding anyhow.

[Hivoyer]

the guy in the video is not a gymnast.a gymnast would be so strong,he wouldn;t sweat with such incredibly easy exercises+this guy was struggling with the leg lifts

[anaznkat]

In order to do a full body muscle up on the rings, it's best to learn with a "false grip", otherwise it's nearly impossible to transition the shoulders over the wrist for a press.

He is not a gymnast, but he definitely knows his body mechanics. Good info.

[aussyt]

he looks good but he lacks the endurance.

[aikijitsu66]

why do you call everbody mug

[shadisc]

impressive body...

[Plejta]

yes...a minor czardas ...I like it

[Mattashi]

so whats your point? some gymnastics can't do things a bodybuilder can its both a different sport..

[YaMumYaNanYaGran]

For most people if you want a fit and muscular physique you don't have to even walk into a gym. Doing a mixture of gymnastic like movements and calisthenics will build a very impressive body. You only need to lift heavy ass weight if you want to be huge. Who wants to look like Coleman? I know I don't.

[kettlebellconvert]

well weightlifting does has its place, but mostly in the big movements like squats, deadlifts, clean and jerks, some presses... how else can you build maximal and explosive strength so effectively?

but you are right, if looks is all you are after, body weight gymnast stuff- especially for the upper body- will build an impressive looking (and functioning, if you care, like you should) body for sure.

[BboyDeusEx]

you fool, body weight strength is way more functional than lifiting a bunch of weights.

this video is shit

[kettlebellconvert]

haha, tell that to the masses of athletes using squats to have the most powerful posterior chains possible. or cleans to develop the most explosive legs (which power nearly all athletic movement), etc.

the only fool is one who thinks that one modality of training is better than all others.

so shut up, moron.

[BboyDeusEx]

grandmother

[kettlebellconvert]

hahahahaha, does anyone else take this guy seriously when he talks this way, or do you all see him as a pathetic individual who acts like a coward over the internet?

[BboyDeusEx]

ILL KILL YOU

[kettlebellconvert]

hahaha, okay buddy, okay... youll kill me. iiiii get it.

[aussyt]

your so gay,

[BboyDeusEx]

ill kill you

[aussyt]

i think your on a killing spree now, you have a lot of work to do killing everyone.

[idayjsf]

Each sport-specific athlete will gain greater benefits from certain exercises than others (as suggested earlier). It's all good and well that Olympic gymnasts have exceptional full body strength, because that's what they need to be competitive in THEIR sport.

To each his own, I say.

p.s. you'll find it hard to have people take you seriously when you practically spill out the fragments of your shattered ego and start making stupid threats

[BboyDeusEx]

ill kill you

[kettlebellconvert]

wow, showing your true colors eh? quite the moron indeed.

in terms of body manipulation, yes, gymnasts are by far the strongest pound for pound. and their legs are also very strong, who would argue with this?

but raw strength and power... no gymnast can produce the force or power output of an olympic weightlifter. nfl linemen train bb squats, boxers train cleans, etc., because it develops more strength and power than bodyweight alone.

if you respond, do try to do so intelligently.

[wazzy198]

Lol I was against you at first, but that BboyDeusEx guy is a fucking idiot.

[aussyt]

yeah gymnasts are very strong but most lack endurasnce and are mostly use to short comprtitions.

[Shokeybutsi]

gymnasts lack endurance? you kidding right? They support their entire bodyweight with their arms for like 5-10 minutes at a time!

[JacktheDaniels]

Gymnastics training develops muscular endurance.

You can't develop good cardiovascular endurance from purely gymnastics training, though.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

There's been plenty of medical studies that have confirmed that low intensity, long period (marathon running, distance swimming, etc) yields fewer health benefits than gymnastic training, tabatas, high interval training, and overall GPP conditioning. In fact, there's been studies saying distance work can be bad for you.

I can attest to the fact that distance work does not carry over to other excercises, but other excercises, at high intensity, carry over to distance work.

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

That wasn't entirely relevant to my comment.

Anyway, train for a 15:00 5k and then get back to me.

Distance work is bad for you... what hoseshit. Just like the overhead press used to be bad for you? Smacks of lazy-ass people who just want to to the exercises that are easier to slack off on. If distance work was so bad, then humans wouldn't be so genetically predisposed towards being excellent long-distance runners.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

Lazy huh? Hey buddy, I swam for the University of Puerto Rico for 3 years. I averaged 4 hours of swimming a day on the peak! I know distance training, for god sakes, one of my events was the 1500m free and 400 Fly!!! I also ran Tri's in the off season... Do tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about.

That being said, I still do cardio, but I mix it with functional training. People these days train low intensity cardio exclusively, which is of course, not wise.

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

Hey sorry for the rant the other day, I was in a bad mood. Didn't mean to be offensive.

Having done an endurance sport at a high level, you know that, after a point, the only way to make continuing progress in your endurance sport is to specifically tailor your training to the demands of your event. General conditioning certainly helps, but the returns of such work as they apply to some specific endurance event drop off quickly, whereas specific work continues to provide (con'td)

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

appreciable gains. Anyway, when I originally said "you can't develop good cardiovascular endurance from gymnastics alone", I meant, "good" cardiovascular endurance in relation to someone who trains specifically for it and can maintain a significant proportion of their maximal output for extended periods of time, like a sub-30 10k runner.

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

I recognize that the strength, flexibility, coordination, etc. that gymnastics provide is far more useful to a regular person that a high degree of specialized endurance developed at the cost of other attributes.

I'm just saying that, all else being equal, someone who does mostly gymnastics training (and is good at it) won't have "good" cardiovascular endurance in comparison to an appropriately-trained 5k-specialist.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

Hahahahaa. Yeah, Sorry, I was in a bad mood too. That's what being indoors studying on a nice day will do to you. I guess its all about what you want out of your body. Long ago I realized that waking up at 5 am everyday to have a coach subject me to all sorts of aquatic tortures wasn't my thing anymore. I was curious to see what my body could do, so I got back into martial arts and really pushed it. My endurance isn't phenomenal anymore, but hey, I can certainly do more stuff!

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

Totally true. The best way to get better at an event is to train for that event. Every sport will carry over some benefit to another sport, no matter how small. Sometimes, its just raw endurance.  In my case, the hypoxic breathing from swimming helped when I grappled. The Capoeira used to do helped me in dancing/boxing footwork and body control/coordination. Gymnasts and dancers(Break/slam) have an advantage over most in that they can pick up sports/activities easily.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

But you're right, theres no better way to prepare for a Tri, or some race than practicing the event and putting up with the suck!

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

Hell, just look back to primitive peoples who would chase down their prey until they stopped from pure exhaustion (the prey, I mean).

Of course pure distance work doesn't carry over to other activities, but other attributes would only carry over to distance if you were a complete novice to being with in terms of those other attributes.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

Dude, get real. We shot animals with arrows and spears after stalking them for miles, I mean just read about old hunting styles. Hell, look at the modern bow hunter. At most, we spent a hours walking, followed by... guess what... SPRINTING! Then we carried the meal over rugged terrain, prepared the meat with handmade tools, chopped wood for fire, and cooked it in our hand made homes. All of which require functional general physical fitness... not marathon running fitness!

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

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[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101 Like when Rippetoe says that riding a bike will make a complete novice a better squatter - it's not because biking is great for squatting, it's only because the biker is a complete novice to begin with.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

All I'm saying dood, is that being a cardio monster isn't the end all be all. Gymnastic excercises, functional training, sports conditioning, in my opinion make you healthier, less prone to injury, more well rounded, and able to pick up different sports and activities without the steep learning curve you would have if all you do is run.

And this is coming from a former endurance athlete turned conditioning junkie man. Trust me, it took years to break my old ways of thinking.

[JacktheDaniels]

@lamesurfer101

I'm more or less in the same boat as you, actually.

I used to run varsity track & cross country, but recently I've become addicted to barbell training and OL lifting. Heavy front squats FTW.

Plus it just feels better being 6'0" 200 than being 6'0" 160.

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

Yeah. You miss being able to say that you could slug out hours of grueling cardio, right? Mee too. But now that I mix MMA conditioning, some acrobatics, swimming, and pure fun stuff(hiking, bouldering, tree climbing, soccer etc.) I've never felt better (or looked better). Far be it for me to day I'm a beast at anything but swimming... but then again, I can hang and grow quickly in each... which is better than most ppl. You'd probably enjoy a Capoeira class, btw... checkitout!

[lamesurfer101]

@JacktheDaniels

Listen, I tore my MCL in Judo, so I couldn't run or swim (flip turns and kicks hurt). I could however, bike for 20 minutes at a time, jump rope for 10 minutes, do kettlebell excercises, and functional training with a hinged brace.

When the grade 3(almost 4) tear finally healed six months , I went on a long run with my GF. I ran 8 miles the first day. Followed by 11 three days later... No sweat. I haven't bothered to run more than 4 miles since in five years!

[shiya3]

lol many retards have the misconception that good endurance = good at long distance running.

thats bull shit.

[AbnormallyOriginal]

@Shokeybutsi Gymnasts do lack endurance in certain areas. I am a gymnast. I tried out for track during the second semester of this school year, and I couldn't keep up with anybody. I couldn't run a 400meter without getting tired, but I could sure walk on my hands and do more push ups than anybody else.

[BuffGuy785]

eat something you girl

[kettlebellconvert]

aww, is somebody jealous?

[KruNae]

Most gymnasts and crossfitters don't have big biceps.

[climbtraditional]

big biceps are just for show. Having biceps as large as a lot of bodybuilders and such isn't actually proportionate. Muscles are supposed to move together--isolating the biceps to make them larger is simply foolish and doesn't actually result in increased "usable" strength

[diceking4545]

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[manger8882]

Awesome exercise's, very tough but excellent way to begin!  Is this John Basedow?