Hello Dunken very nice vids. Thank you for so much detail.
The draw of the boken towards you e.g. 0:43 to 0:44 creates a hole that someone could follow you into.
(You do this often with most of the suburi)
Instead you can rock the left hand down with a slight hip movement while still extended in shizentai, it will bring the tip up then step back following the bokens centre as it passes over your head.
Also dont let the tip fall so low behind your back.
On each shomen strike, you perform tome (sword stop) as a two part process, your left hand stopping slightly before your right, creating a secondary "pivot" swing with the left hand as fulcrum. (the "main" swing uses the shoulders as the fulcrum)
Is this "2 part tome" intentional/part of your waza?
I think the important thing to establish here is that Aiki ken is in no way swordmanship. Aiki ken is a body development tool, and in no way meant to provide the Aikidoka with sword skills. See my comments below with regards to detail.
@Aiki33 Mah, this is sword fighthing from all sides... In real, more or all the aikido sword techniques are the same techniques of other martial arts, like Kendo, Kung-Fù, Okinawan Karate and Viet-Vo-Dao.
I practiced Viet-Vo-Dao for some years and i can say this with certainty.
This is an "inert" demonstration of the basic 7 bokken suburi. I say inert because I try to show these on the DVD as neutral as possible - so that it does not fall into "Iwama" or Aikikai" style. My normal practice would be somewhat livelier than this and more extended. These are 7 solo kata that enable develoment of correct posture, coordination of breath and movement, and promote centralization.
Yep i completely understand and its good to see different ways to execute the same move. In our association we have a Sensei that teaches a very real form of Aikido that i find too raw but i guess it would probably work better in the "real world" so to speak.
Yeah, because its more prominent in partner work we're taught the to move that way in practice otherwise you have to basically learn to movements for the same technique. Great vid though any help is gratefully recieved.
I try to standardize suburi as much as possible, to make it a true 'basic'. Once you start developing partner practise, this core skill can then be adapted as required. I appreciate the comments.
In the suburi the movement offline is minimal, basically only down to the engagement of the hips; this becomes more prominent in partner practise of course.
In the suburi No. 3, should be hide the bokken so that the enemy can not see. 1:09
2124161 1 month ago
@2124161 What enemy? LOL
Aiki33 1 month ago
Thank you, helped me a lot!
AtmanxId 8 months ago
the trusting technique looks incorrect to me
tamas911 1 year ago
0:55 to 0:56 is a better example of the boken withdrawal.
I can also see light under your front foot, at this point, as you shift your centre.
With your feet flat you can drop your centre.
Heel up e.g. 1:31
Also, is this posture OK? 1:35 you look out of posture!
fudo9 2 years ago
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Hello Dunken very nice vids. Thank you for so much detail.
The draw of the boken towards you e.g. 0:43 to 0:44 creates a hole that someone could follow you into.
(You do this often with most of the suburi)
Instead you can rock the left hand down with a slight hip movement while still extended in shizentai, it will bring the tip up then step back following the bokens centre as it passes over your head.
Also dont let the tip fall so low behind your back.
Regards John
fudo9 2 years ago
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fudo9 2 years ago
Ref. Saito Sensei's Aiki Ken, why have you changed the start to 4th and 5 th suburi ?
upsidedownson 2 years ago
Hi
have a read of the comments below - I think your query is answered.
Aiki33 2 years ago
On each shomen strike, you perform tome (sword stop) as a two part process, your left hand stopping slightly before your right, creating a secondary "pivot" swing with the left hand as fulcrum. (the "main" swing uses the shoulders as the fulcrum)
Is this "2 part tome" intentional/part of your waza?
magneticskull 2 years ago
I think the important thing to establish here is that Aiki ken is in no way swordmanship. Aiki ken is a body development tool, and in no way meant to provide the Aikidoka with sword skills. See my comments below with regards to detail.
Aiki33 2 years ago
@Aiki33 Mah, this is sword fighthing from all sides... In real, more or all the aikido sword techniques are the same techniques of other martial arts, like Kendo, Kung-Fù, Okinawan Karate and Viet-Vo-Dao.
I practiced Viet-Vo-Dao for some years and i can say this with certainty.
orionintelligence 5 months ago
This is an "inert" demonstration of the basic 7 bokken suburi. I say inert because I try to show these on the DVD as neutral as possible - so that it does not fall into "Iwama" or Aikikai" style. My normal practice would be somewhat livelier than this and more extended. These are 7 solo kata that enable develoment of correct posture, coordination of breath and movement, and promote centralization.
Aiki33 3 years ago
Is this a step by step tutorial or are all those moves diffrent?
kakla893 3 years ago
Our organization had close contact with Saito sensei in the 1980's..
Aiki33 3 years ago
Nicely broken down and a good demo. Are you iwama style?
busdriverBryan 3 years ago
Yep i completely understand and its good to see different ways to execute the same move. In our association we have a Sensei that teaches a very real form of Aikido that i find too raw but i guess it would probably work better in the "real world" so to speak.
Cougar88888 3 years ago
Yeah, because its more prominent in partner work we're taught the to move that way in practice otherwise you have to basically learn to movements for the same technique. Great vid though any help is gratefully recieved.
Cougar88888 3 years ago
I try to standardize suburi as much as possible, to make it a true 'basic'. Once you start developing partner practise, this core skill can then be adapted as required. I appreciate the comments.
Aiki33 3 years ago
We're taught to move off the centre line on number 5 because thats how you use it in practical
Cougar88888 3 years ago
In the suburi the movement offline is minimal, basically only down to the engagement of the hips; this becomes more prominent in partner practise of course.
Aiki33 3 years ago
Thanks - The saito bokken DVD shows them much more accurately though ;0)
Aiki33 3 years ago
what a refreshing and visual review! thanks.
Best regards from Aikido Yoseikan, SouthAmerica
mitsourugi 3 years ago