@OnlyLifeMatters I agree totally, but they decided the funds for defence materiel should be cut... again. So they decided to pull out of AMOS and keep the Borfors ARCHER (155mm Howitzer mounted on an armored and highly automated Volvo BM dumper chassi)
@suetra84 WHAT! BUT IT'S SUCH AN AMAZING SYSTEM! THE BEST THING FINNS AND SWEDES HAVE DONE TOGETHER!
We at least kept AMOS here in Finland O.o In fact, the mass-production of these vehicles for FDF has begun and there should be 18 of them in service by 2013.
... provided that Americans provide fuel, precise munitions, C4SRI and Lybia never had anything remotely capable of threating any combat aircraft younger than their own Mirage IIIs :D They have free run like on proving ground, and still fail to accomplish anything meningful.
Jos minä olisin teollisuusneuvos, niin vaatisin Suomea aloittamaan yhteistyön SAAB:n kanssa ja kehittämään meille paitsi erinomaisen ilma-aseen kuin myös myyntivaltin maailman valtioille, jotka haluavat huipputeknogisia hävittäjiä/taistelijoita...(niinhän niiden sanotaan olevan. Hävittävät vihollisen ilmataistelukoneet)
F-15 Eagle oli lajissaan ensimmäinen ja erittäin menestyksekäs. 104 pudotusta. Yksikään F-15 ei koskaan hävinnyt. Track record 104-0.
@Jyrki1964 Samaa mieltä, minä aloittaisin aktiivisen puolustusyhteistyön pohjoismaiden kanssa (ei tarvitsisi enään hapattaa siitä NATO:sta) ja samalla pohjoismaat voisivat lyödä yhteen sen osaamisen, teknologian ja kilpailukyvyn ja tehdä yhdessä vaikka jotain moderneja hävittäjiä ja ojuspuolustussysteemejä ja yleensäkkin aseita, ja myydä niitä.
@Jyrki1964 Koneen track record taitaa kyllä kertoa enemmän käyttäjien organisaatioista, tiedonkäsittelykyvystä ja resursseista, kuin koneen kyvyistä. Veikkaanpa, että niissä konflikteissa, joissa F-15 on ollut mukana, samoja tuloksia olisi käytännössä voitu saada melkeinpä F-4:llä.
Pohjoismaiden kannattaisi kyl liittoutua ihan valtiollisestikin, kun meillä on kuitenkin niin paljon yhteistä ja varsinkin yhteisiä tavoitteita. Yhdessä olisimme maailman 10. suurin talousmahti. (edellä mm. Kanadaa, jonka asukasluku on 35 miljoonaa ja meitin vain 25 miljoonaa).
Meiän pankit ja talous muutenkin alkaa olla kovasti sidoksissa toisiinsa. Mulla on tili sammossa, joka on osa Danske Bankia. Nordea on yhteispohjoismainen ollut jo aikoja. Meillä on paljon yhteisiä yhtiöitä/yhteistyötä.
@SuperFinnish Yeah. Funny how that works. A few years ago, the U.S. was getting ready fo field some of the most advanced equipment anyone had seen, then all of a sudden, it's all relegated to being prototypes that we'll never see in service. I wonder why that is. (Sarcasm, of course. I know exactly why that is)
@Qlasettaja Russia has the best aircraft in the world no doubt about it. However; there is a reason why when a LAV or a Bradley gets blown up in Baghdad and a PATRIA doesn't. Taliban simply cancel their missions. I read all about these monsters. But you are correct. Russia has couple things they make that are made very well and no country could beat. We should not forget Russia's greatest legacy: The Ak-47.
@DjCroatia1993 The Taliban are not in Bagdad, they are in Afganistan. Don't know of but a few examples where a LAV or Bradley were destroyed. Russia makes some good stuff without a doubt, but the best equipment on the ground or in the air is US made.
@Qlasettaja Russia lost its military manufacturing base during the 1990's. They have never regained it. Their military is only a shadow of what it once was. Most of its equipment is getting very old and needs replacement yet the country can only afford a few high profile projects while trying to maintain the little it has. Russias military has serious military problems.
@barfumer Yes. I do find it a shame that most of the worlds AK-47's are made in China. It amazes me, a good weapon should be made in its own country. The Chinese no offence to them but they really have no idea how to produce things. They are too cheap. They may have a good military; I mean they got one of the best tanks in the world. But over-all they're really not about quality.
@barfumer Yes. Their Abrams may be a "beast" but its got a major disadvantage. The reason they get destroyed is because the Taliban know those tanks need to refuel every two hours. By the time the chopper comes to refuel the tank takes 30-40 minutes. By then the tank is already destroyed if its not protected by a convoy of at least 2 Humvee's and 10-12 foot soldiers. Americans don't really know much about tactical warfare, especially in urbanized combat.
@DjCroatia1993 Abrams needs to ber refueled every 2 hours? Where do you get your information? Suggest you do a little research before making such statements. Also don't know of any Abrams being "destroyed" in Afganistan.
@iivaris Ahaa, olitkin suomalainen niin lopetetaans Lontoon kieli sitten. Juu, onhan se kivaa saada näitä suomen omia tekeleitä kehiin, mutta niitä on niin vähän että ihan hirvittää. Siinä ei kande rehennellä kauheesti :D. Suomen kannattaisi aloittaa massiivinen asetuotanto, ja varustella armeijansa kotimaisella tuotannolla, sitten myydä niitä ulkomaille. Selviäsi semmoisella useammankin laman - sillä on vain kolme alaa joihin lama ei vaikuta: huoraus, huumediilaus ja rehti asekauppa.
@OnlyLifeMatters On niitä vähän, mutta Patrian AMV on kyllä todellinen saavutus. Monen mielestä jopa maailman paras! Ja ei siinäkään tietenkään mitään pahaa ole, että ruotsin kanssa tehdään paljon näiden kanssa yhteistyötä, mutta on se ihan kiva, että saadaan jotain aivan itse aikaiseksi. Tosin AMV:ssa on Scanian kone. :D
Ei meidän tarvitse siitä kantaa huolta ettei kaikkea saada itse tehtyä. Ruotsi on niin läheinen liittolainen ja sieltä löytyy PALJON omasta takaa.
but if a weapon shoot over 10 000 40 mm grenades per second it doesnt really matter is that 120 mm or 40 mm. And of course because metal storm is full electronic and doesnt have any moving parts it will never go jammed. Its a very shitty situation when a NEMO jamms and the metalstorm justs keeps onshooting 10 000 grenades in one minute. NEMO can shoot 10 120 mm grenades in one minute and there is less effect than in 10 000 40mm grenades.
Fully electornic means usually that is it very easy to destroy. For instance in modern tanks the biggest problems are the electronic shooting mechanisms. Even if the tank seems fine on the outside the shocks caused by the enemy or just moving can easily break some of the electronic parts.
First of all, how do you shoot 10 000 grenades out of one weapon in a minute? maybe with 50 weapons or a hundred that could be possible. And even if it can shoot that fast, loading would be impossible for that kind of amount of ammunitions.
I also watched some sort of document about that weapon. Designers said that it isn´t designed to be offensive weapon and the best scenario for that gun is for example defending a base. I rest my fucking case!!
Now tell me a system that can actually mount that thing. 48 barrel firing mechanism with full autoloader, takes a while to design. Doesn't take much to think of it.
There is nothing better in metal storm compared to NEMO. And you have to realize that metal storm shoots 40mm grenades, not the full 120mm combat grenade.
@Trekker84 The effect of 10 000 40mm metal storm can easily be achieved with the use of cluster munitions, but if they are banned then metal storm might have to be the way to go :P
ja kuinka monta näitä lähtee nyt saudi arabiaan? :D
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@OnlyLifeMatters I agree totally, but they decided the funds for defence materiel should be cut... again. So they decided to pull out of AMOS and keep the Borfors ARCHER (155mm Howitzer mounted on an armored and highly automated Volvo BM dumper chassi)
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suetra84 5 months ago
nice
17dumitru 6 months ago
And this is where it shows that Finnland has better politicians than we do in Sweden... ours pulled out of the AMOS system
suetra84 6 months ago
@suetra84 WHAT! BUT IT'S SUCH AN AMAZING SYSTEM! THE BEST THING FINNS AND SWEDES HAVE DONE TOGETHER!
We at least kept AMOS here in Finland O.o In fact, the mass-production of these vehicles for FDF has begun and there should be 18 of them in service by 2013.
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@suetra84
"And this is where it shows that Finnland has better politicians than we do in Sweden... ours pulled out of the AMOS system"
Are you serious? We have the most tarded politicians in whole europe.
TheMaximus359 1 month ago
Today in Libya we see how the french Rafale and paneuropean EF Typhoon are handling a multirole assignments.
They can do everything. Hit aircraft, ground targets, surface vessels.
Jyrki1964 8 months ago
@Jyrki1964
... provided that Americans provide fuel, precise munitions, C4SRI and Lybia never had anything remotely capable of threating any combat aircraft younger than their own Mirage IIIs :D They have free run like on proving ground, and still fail to accomplish anything meningful.
AnteyPL 7 months ago
Jos minä olisin teollisuusneuvos, niin vaatisin Suomea aloittamaan yhteistyön SAAB:n kanssa ja kehittämään meille paitsi erinomaisen ilma-aseen kuin myös myyntivaltin maailman valtioille, jotka haluavat huipputeknogisia hävittäjiä/taistelijoita...(niinhän niiden sanotaan olevan. Hävittävät vihollisen ilmataistelukoneet)
F-15 Eagle oli lajissaan ensimmäinen ja erittäin menestyksekäs. 104 pudotusta. Yksikään F-15 ei koskaan hävinnyt. Track record 104-0.
Jyrki1964 8 months ago
@Jyrki1964 Samaa mieltä, minä aloittaisin aktiivisen puolustusyhteistyön pohjoismaiden kanssa (ei tarvitsisi enään hapattaa siitä NATO:sta) ja samalla pohjoismaat voisivat lyödä yhteen sen osaamisen, teknologian ja kilpailukyvyn ja tehdä yhdessä vaikka jotain moderneja hävittäjiä ja ojuspuolustussysteemejä ja yleensäkkin aseita, ja myydä niitä.
MrSuurijohtaja 7 months ago
@Jyrki1964 Koneen track record taitaa kyllä kertoa enemmän käyttäjien organisaatioista, tiedonkäsittelykyvystä ja resursseista, kuin koneen kyvyistä. Veikkaanpa, että niissä konflikteissa, joissa F-15 on ollut mukana, samoja tuloksia olisi käytännössä voitu saada melkeinpä F-4:llä.
SAsgarters 7 months ago
3 ryssää ei tykänny tästä
coopa22cool22 9 months ago
Finding Nemo
juispurg 10 months ago
I was looking for nemo a long time ago, now I found it
savagemessiah82 11 months ago
Oh how I wish
For soothing rain
Oh how I wish to dream again
Once and for all
And all for once
Nemo my name for evermore
Nemo sailing home
Nemo letting go
- Nightwish
Kaarlo 1 year ago
Hope they put that on CV90 and exporte some of them to sweden! :D Looks Epic!
Theshrimpification 1 year ago
tolla ois komee ampuu neekereitä
matwambe 1 year ago
@matwambe niinpä :D
coopa22cool22 9 months ago
Pöh. On mulla tili säästöpankissakin :)
Jyrki1964 1 year ago
1:03 o.O
deejaydein 1 year ago
Pohjoismaiden kannattaisi kyl liittoutua ihan valtiollisestikin, kun meillä on kuitenkin niin paljon yhteistä ja varsinkin yhteisiä tavoitteita. Yhdessä olisimme maailman 10. suurin talousmahti. (edellä mm. Kanadaa, jonka asukasluku on 35 miljoonaa ja meitin vain 25 miljoonaa).
Meiän pankit ja talous muutenkin alkaa olla kovasti sidoksissa toisiinsa. Mulla on tili sammossa, joka on osa Danske Bankia. Nordea on yhteispohjoismainen ollut jo aikoja. Meillä on paljon yhteisiä yhtiöitä/yhteistyötä.
Jyrki1964 1 year ago
This AMV is so hard to kill, that when it is equipped with NEMO, you could consider it as a fucking light tank rather than AMV XD
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
Naff music, someone should set an artillery advert to Dimmu Borgir.
spankeyfish 1 year ago
Aw, it's like a simple version of the XM1204. I guess the barrel's triangular so that we know it's more advanced.
AreThereNoMoreNames 1 year ago
@AreThereNoMoreNames With the exception that NEMO and AMOS systems are in service unlike your XM1204.
SuperFinnish 1 year ago
@SuperFinnish Yeah. Funny how that works. A few years ago, the U.S. was getting ready fo field some of the most advanced equipment anyone had seen, then all of a sudden, it's all relegated to being prototypes that we'll never see in service. I wonder why that is. (Sarcasm, of course. I know exactly why that is)
AreThereNoMoreNames 1 year ago
this and Vena are one of the best mortar systems around the world today
TheWWWdotFRAUDS 1 year ago
Wolverine :D Polish army roxx
Honker00 1 year ago
watch... finish army is going to start manufacturing better weapons and vihicles then the U.S.
DjCroatia1993 1 year ago 42
@DjCroatia1993 Russia have already better manufacturing=)
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja Russia has the best aircraft in the world no doubt about it. However; there is a reason why when a LAV or a Bradley gets blown up in Baghdad and a PATRIA doesn't. Taliban simply cancel their missions. I read all about these monsters. But you are correct. Russia has couple things they make that are made very well and no country could beat. We should not forget Russia's greatest legacy: The Ak-47.
DjCroatia1993 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 The Taliban are not in Bagdad, they are in Afganistan. Don't know of but a few examples where a LAV or Bradley were destroyed. Russia makes some good stuff without a doubt, but the best equipment on the ground or in the air is US made.
gerry301 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja Russia lost its military manufacturing base during the 1990's. They have never regained it. Their military is only a shadow of what it once was. Most of its equipment is getting very old and needs replacement yet the country can only afford a few high profile projects while trying to maintain the little it has. Russias military has serious military problems.
gerry301 1 year ago 6
@DjCroatia1993 they are. atleast our weapons are not made in china
barfumer 1 year ago
@barfumer Yes. I do find it a shame that most of the worlds AK-47's are made in China. It amazes me, a good weapon should be made in its own country. The Chinese no offence to them but they really have no idea how to produce things. They are too cheap. They may have a good military; I mean they got one of the best tanks in the world. But over-all they're really not about quality.
DjCroatia1993 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 no wonder "american" products break down so easily
barfumer 1 year ago
@barfumer Yes. Their Abrams may be a "beast" but its got a major disadvantage. The reason they get destroyed is because the Taliban know those tanks need to refuel every two hours. By the time the chopper comes to refuel the tank takes 30-40 minutes. By then the tank is already destroyed if its not protected by a convoy of at least 2 Humvee's and 10-12 foot soldiers. Americans don't really know much about tactical warfare, especially in urbanized combat.
DjCroatia1993 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 and thats why theyre getting their asses ripped to shreds
barfumer 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993
Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know anything about tactical warfare :(
ZachCraft 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 Abrams needs to ber refueled every 2 hours? Where do you get your information? Suggest you do a little research before making such statements. Also don't know of any Abrams being "destroyed" in Afganistan.
gerry301 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993
:) lol patria-finish army?????
DUMPPERI 1 year ago
@DUMPPERI Yes they invented it.
DjCroatia1993 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 What do you mean "Going to"? It does already.
BoomShitBags 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 What do you mean "going to"? They already do.
BoomShitBags 1 year ago
@DjCroatia1993 dude, they already have.
SovereignCin3ma 9 months ago
@DjCroatia1993 Already been doing that ;)
Kukkonaama 8 months ago
@DjCroatia1993 you right
hagglundguy 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Lpositive
Shit, a Jurmo with a NEMO-system! I love those boats, done quite a few trips around the Finnish archipelago on one of those...
lexagon 1 year ago
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How many Muslims will it kill?
bullcurr 2 years ago
videon ser fan ball ut xD
ehm147 2 years ago
Your mother does.
Joazzz14 2 years ago
tack antar jag :S
ehm147 2 years ago
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nästan alla är svenska
izze023 2 years ago
In this package, nothing is swedish!
iivaris 2 years ago 41
swedish engine maybe? scania
kronan11 2 years ago
@kronan11
Could be.
Trekker84 2 years ago
@kronan11 Depends the version.
But the Finnish one is better.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@iivaris And you consider that important? Sure, it sounds fun, but also childish.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Many people seems to like that comment! Don't take everything so seriously. ;)
iivaris 1 year ago
@iivaris Ahaa, olitkin suomalainen niin lopetetaans Lontoon kieli sitten. Juu, onhan se kivaa saada näitä suomen omia tekeleitä kehiin, mutta niitä on niin vähän että ihan hirvittää. Siinä ei kande rehennellä kauheesti :D. Suomen kannattaisi aloittaa massiivinen asetuotanto, ja varustella armeijansa kotimaisella tuotannolla, sitten myydä niitä ulkomaille. Selviäsi semmoisella useammankin laman - sillä on vain kolme alaa joihin lama ei vaikuta: huoraus, huumediilaus ja rehti asekauppa.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago 2
@OnlyLifeMatters On niitä vähän, mutta Patrian AMV on kyllä todellinen saavutus. Monen mielestä jopa maailman paras! Ja ei siinäkään tietenkään mitään pahaa ole, että ruotsin kanssa tehdään paljon näiden kanssa yhteistyötä, mutta on se ihan kiva, että saadaan jotain aivan itse aikaiseksi. Tosin AMV:ssa on Scanian kone. :D
Ei meidän tarvitse siitä kantaa huolta ettei kaikkea saada itse tehtyä. Ruotsi on niin läheinen liittolainen ja sieltä löytyy PALJON omasta takaa.
iivaris 1 year ago
@iivaris There was one picture here, with the turret mounted on a Swedish vehicle, CV90.
TheCrazyFinn 3 months ago
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but if a weapon shoot over 10 000 40 mm grenades per second it doesnt really matter is that 120 mm or 40 mm. And of course because metal storm is full electronic and doesnt have any moving parts it will never go jammed. Its a very shitty situation when a NEMO jamms and the metalstorm justs keeps onshooting 10 000 grenades in one minute. NEMO can shoot 10 120 mm grenades in one minute and there is less effect than in 10 000 40mm grenades.
masan3llo 2 years ago
You are comparing NEMO to system what does not see service for a long time.
MokomaSusi 2 years ago 4
Do you suppose metal storm has a range comparable to NEMO?
TheCrazyFinn 2 years ago 4
Fully electornic means usually that is it very easy to destroy. For instance in modern tanks the biggest problems are the electronic shooting mechanisms. Even if the tank seems fine on the outside the shocks caused by the enemy or just moving can easily break some of the electronic parts.
CruiserW 2 years ago 2
Not to mention EMPs ...
enjoypolo 2 years ago
The problem with EMP is that it is not something you shoot at every tank that comes to pass by.
It requires a quite big explosion to generate electromagnetic field (usually generated by nuclear explosions)
It is used more at stuff like airports and powerplants etc big objects to bring them down.
Using such would be a huge waste at tanks in the middle of thick forest in which you can't see from air.
Whielmaa 2 years ago 4
and EMP's tend to make huge collaterale damage, as it likes to erase credit cards, and makes airplanes crash.
justaguy08 2 years ago
good point crews too can be knocked unconscious by hits and the tank still look fine and drive
14th20thKRHkickass 2 years ago
@masan3llo
First of all, how do you shoot 10 000 grenades out of one weapon in a minute? maybe with 50 weapons or a hundred that could be possible. And even if it can shoot that fast, loading would be impossible for that kind of amount of ammunitions.
I also watched some sort of document about that weapon. Designers said that it isn´t designed to be offensive weapon and the best scenario for that gun is for example defending a base. I rest my fucking case!!
Trekker84 2 years ago
how? metal storm, check it out.
presbarkeep 2 years ago
@presbarkeep
Metal storm has still long way to go before we see it in landwarfare.
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
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BTW the metalstorm is the most advanced system... it can fire over 10 000 mortar rounds per minute.
masan3llo 2 years ago
don't mistake raw power with being technologically superior.
cha0sx 2 years ago 2
Now tell me a system that can actually mount that thing. 48 barrel firing mechanism with full autoloader, takes a while to design. Doesn't take much to think of it.
W4lt3r89 2 years ago 3
not...
ttaappiioo83 2 years ago 2
There is nothing better in metal storm compared to NEMO. And you have to realize that metal storm shoots 40mm grenades, not the full 120mm combat grenade.
Trekker84 2 years ago 4
@Trekker84 The effect of 10 000 40mm metal storm can easily be achieved with the use of cluster munitions, but if they are banned then metal storm might have to be the way to go :P
Hairysteed 1 year ago
@Hairysteed ...at least until they ban that as well
Hairysteed 2 months ago
That crew protection is quite good actually.
Trekker84 2 years ago 8
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It must be a real shit since Slovenia bought it!
photosshop 3 years ago
lol haha
amppower 3 years ago
What idiotic comments...
thehalonen 3 years ago 4
these look really cool! And effective!
Suomenpoikamikael95 3 years ago 4
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stupid countries in the world!
drottweiler 3 years ago
Croatia european asshole!!
drottweiler 3 years ago 4
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photosshop 3 years ago
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photosshop 3 years ago
Your mom must be shit since Slovenia bought it.
Robbi159 3 years ago 8
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Look you retard, I least has it. Meanwhile your mom has bools and mustage.
photosshop 3 years ago
yeea
lwrange 3 years ago 4
Awsome!
Proud to be the first country ordering these :D
Detective112 3 years ago 7