Re: Re: Neal Adams Conspiracy of Science: Pangea

[Whorifice]

You should meet up with the tectonics guy at some seedy hourly rate hotel and make a man-pangea, mangea, subduct and quake as your plates collide, then spoon one another after to simulate a fault line. Inboxing is just so impersonal and meeting up for coffee is just no fun.

[TheOnebigmick]

@Whorifice Ahh ha ha ha ha ha haar... Ah ha ha ha ha ha Thumbs up to you ;)

[oatstao]

You walked yourself through with the calculations.. but what 'SYSTEM' or METHODOLOGY are you using to confirm? How is it constructed and what purpose does it really maintain for understanding, in reality, not on a page.

Archaic icons on a page such as numbers and equations only show a theory, we are looking at Earth as what other cultures have known, it is ALIVE, GROWING. Please explain, where the energy goes, from ever expanding crystals?

The earth does not follow seperate laws of a SEED.

[bill0w]

That guy should be a politician.

[BrutusCass]

Please don't take offence by my words here, they are only my observation.

You seem to jump rather rapidly from one point of view to another, this may be due to your hard scienze back ground, that being working in a more knowable field, if you do certain things you get certain results, but remember most science is not this.

There be a bit of truth in both arguements.

Neil cetianly has some points of interest and even if he's not completely right it dosen't mean that he's completely wrong.

[DejectedPanda]

@BrutusCass No, he is completely, hilariously wrong.

[BrutusCass]

@DejectedPanda Well that prove it all rather nicely does it not, just one question. Can you fully explain the machanics behind platetetonic? and really where is you undenial proof that the earth did not have some form of rapid expansion in the early days of forming, if you can truly answers those questions I will be very impressed, and I do mean truly answer them!

[oatstao]

@BrutusCass I also have to add, if it was Platetetonics, would there not be a Shovel effect, more massive than any mountain, on each opposite side of EVERY continent? That's one doozy I need to hear about. THE EARTH IS A SEED GROWING INTO THE MAJESTIC PLANT_ET.

[oatstao]

@BrutusCass they all act like that red head fraud on "MYTH BUSTERS"

They should all be called MYTH BUSKERS

[roborevealer]

I posted this for "yorrike" and he marked it as spam because I showed he's wrong:

Just search for "DIGITAL ISOCHRONS OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN FLOOR" in google and check the age of Pacific ocean floor youngest age to the west coast of N & S America and other places closer to the coast (ie Japan) while the older crust is farther. from the coasts How can this be if your model of "subduction" newer part of crust gets constantly regenerated in the middle and older gets suducted under continental crust?

[Kable3141]

The younger crust on the west coast of Japan is created though a process called back arc basin rifting. Look up "back arc basin" and "roll back" and you will find the answer to your question.

[fresniak]

what a moron..

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

You bet you are. You are a complete fuckwit for sure.

[fresniak]

Look I am not commenting on you, but on the video..did you realize that?

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

Yes after I watched the video and went to question this idiot it turns out he had nothing.

You cannot change the world be just doing a few sums you know. You have to be sure all your assumptions are reasonable inferences all the way down to the ground.

Well this dummy has nothing. Much as it saddens me that we were born in the same country.

You ought not have been taken in by him.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

Dude. My fellow NewZealand-born colleague has nothing here. Plate tectonics is not vindicated

All the evidence supports neal. At least as it comes to me in extraneous fashion. So if I hear that the Carboniferous had inland swamps and somehow they were drained in the next period........ This supports Neal and Premenstrual tension has no answer for it.

Now new matter creation/conversion. Can you accept it? Does it make you feel uneasy? If so the idea would be to relegate neals theory to

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

relegate neals theory to THE LEADING PREDICTIVE TEMPLATE.

So for example special relativity is utter bullshit. But it seemed to work so very well, that I would like to think that I would have been sympathetic to it as a predictive template up until the middle century.

Special relativity contains all sorts of voodoo. But neals theory does not. People sold on the big bang are hard put to accept new matter conversion/creation. That part of the skepticism I accept. Thats fine.

But lets....

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

But lets not pretend that the evidence, every last bit of it, doesn't confirm neals outline.

Think of Bronson at the start of that movie. The three gunman are there. One says that they are a horse shy. Bronson suggests rather that they brought two horses too many.

If you cannot accept new mass creation/conversion then its not that Plate tectonics is vindicated. You are looking for a third paradigm.

May I point out that the big bang is the worst crap science ever?

[okiedokies]

How about refuting James Maxlow with a PhD in Geology who did his whole thesis on this topic. Search on you tube and you can watch his whole lecture series on this topic.

[messiahjonz]

Maxlow?

Strange thing about Malow is that he is not published for peer review.

He makes videos for youtube and such, sells books, yet refuses to be peer reviewed and follow the scientific methodology and processes.

As a practicing geologist, I have access to geo journals and the like. Maxlow is not found published in them.

View his thesis, see how he has the earth smaller than the core 4 bya.

Not a shred of evidence to back any of his claims.

EE is nonsense, nothing to support it.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

Thats not strange at all. What is this peer review occultism you have on the fly?

The basic nature of the planet cannot be altered by peer review. Peer review has nothing to do with science. Its a bizzare form of occult epistemology.

[messiahjonz]

Try to explain that to the doctors the net time you have to go to the hospital.

I love it when people that have no clue spout off concerning science and scientific processes.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

We will lose the doctors as well if we put occult notions like peer review ahead of reason.

Things are likely better where you are. But in my city hospital fiascos are getting more prevalent all the time.

[messiahjonz]

More conspiracy theorist nonsense.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

No you are lying you dim bulb. I didn't say anything about a conspiracy. And accusing someone of involving themselves in conspiracy theory isn't some sort of logic over-ride you dopey shit-for-brains.

Don't run to the mail in anticipation of that honorary doctorate in logic because it aint fucking coming.

[messiahjonz]

WOW!

And to think you suck your dads cock with that filty mouth... tisk tisk.

See, it is not too difficult to get a rise of methane from a lump of shit such as yourself.

I found it quite simple in fact.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

You are too much of an idiot to comment on scientific matters dummy. Go away.

Anyone who pulls the supposed conspiracy-override is just a really stupid twat . A loathsome house-nigger and bully boy advocated of the brainless intellectual status quo.

[messiahjonz]

LOL, thats the ticket, lash out at me, not the content of my original text.

Seems this house-nigger bully boy bothered to obtain a degree in geology, so I have an understanding of this topic.

I hope you have something more than lame insults to add to this conversation.

$20 says that your degree is from sitting on your ass reading conspiracy theory websites.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

Well so you have a DEGREE? Well a bang up that paradigm must be....... (not). If it means that the people who study it still cannot defend it.

If you had a degree that was worthwhile you would understand the feebleness of PT within the basic soundness of geology more generally.

[messiahjonz]

Again, more attacking me and my credentials, rather than getting an education and making a case for your claims. Fortunately for us all, collecting cans along the highway will keep you far from a university, so as not to pollute the educational gene pool.

As for PT, it does not require defending from discounted theories and uneducated youtubers.

Bashing me does nothing but make us over here laugh, thank you.

[fresniak]

doctors are all idiots, all they can do is giving you some shit of drug that does not cure anything, but causes you more problems. The human body is much more complicated than the universe...

[messiahjonz]

Another conspiracy theorists tool.

From Italy? Probably an Iranian, they look the same.

[fresniak]

r u a doctor maybe?

[messiahjonz]

I assume you are asking if I am a medical doctor...no, but working on a doctorate.

[izovire]

Everything Grows... Mountains, Earth, Stars, our universe, and Obesity. What if atoms reproduce? That would be so fucked up... Scientists would lose their minds if it were true... but then again we all need to wake up!! Fuck we found out that Earth wasn't the center of the universe, Scientists us Pangea and subduction as an excuse for extra magma.. It's too fucking hard to study expanding earth... Brain's would explode!!

[wavepsychic]

I agree, everything grows. That's how we got here. The continents do not move! Why don't the Pangea people use the undersea maps anymore?! Billions of dollars to study the pacific oceans sea floor age & they don't even use the map to support Pangea. Hmm.. I wonder why.

[DonHoraldo]

about 14000kg/year of mass appearing in the earth but not accumulating on the crust. where dose it come from and how dose it pass threw miles of rock?

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

It wouldn't pass through. It would set up the whole array of forces needed for the movement we see. Plate tectonics doesn't show how this would be acheived. But knew mass creation does.

[arberia2008]

i can't believe this aikiboy...you have to be kidding me? tell me something? those numbers that mr geo this and geo that gave and that you therefore checked and investigated. what exactly did you mean that the numbers were all accurate? did you mean that mr geo this and geo that was a really good mathemetician or do you know and are aware of the numbers of geology and beleive them to be accurate and fact? and can you say as a above average brain that tectonics is law or acceptance?

[DonHoraldo]

plate tectonics is a well documented theory ranking with the theory of gravity and the atomic theory.

[arberia2008]

hey donhoraldo...how are you? true, there is plate tectonics, but they move with growth ok. by the way, which is harder? to tear a yellow pages book or to inflate a little balloon...LOL... think about it before you answer

[DonHoraldo]

I see you saw my first vid.

but the theory of plate tectonics is incompatible with growing earth. a good example is the san andreas fault. next what is the cause of a growing earth. back in the day the prominent theory was solidification of the ether. what is it now?

[dumbnetworks]

what an idiot

[ekhornbeck127]

dude... the fuck are you talking about?

did you actually say something then, or just ramble for no apparent reason making no point along the way.

what the fuck.

[MrKappaBeta]

If your into chemistry... You might be interested in this theory.

Google Search, "Nuclear Planet | Elements | DISCOVER Magazine"

There is Helium-3 fission by-product ejecting from the earths volcanoes.

I am a programmer. An armchair scientist. I do have my suspicions about the lunar mares and their abundance of helium-3 though... Could be from solar wind... might not be either...

[EskolainenKarma]

lol

[MyOtherBeaver]

MY GOD I dont know anything about any of this really but I do know neal makes a kick ass argument against the whole scientific world whereas u guys just dont know what yer talking about neal DOES NOT use numbers but hes into this big time and hes done his calculations hes done 35 to 40 years on this subject whereas you are a post adelescant chemistry student with an untrustworthy beard.

[aikiboy1111111]

Ok. Two things. One, my beard or the fact that I've just come out of chemistry have nothing to do with the argument. To attempt to debunk my argument based on these facts are ad hominem attacks, and errors in reasoning. Secondly, you've contradicted yourself. How can neal do calculations without using numbers? Thirdly, the video I link to in the summary has a link where he and other scientists have done the full calculations which show why Neal's argument was wrong. I would reccomend clicking

[aikiboy1111111]

(cont) both links and going through them, and THEN debunking the argument. You've obviously heard Neal's side, now go through the info for the other side, and then make up your own mind after becoming better informed. Hope this helps.

[crabyx]

you say "make up your own mind after becoming better informed", have you actually seen all of the videos, sites, or lectures on the theory. you keep returning to "Neal hasnt explained why the mountains grow and continue to grow", he has, so have many other people studying the growing earth theory. now, a lot of questions still remain to be answered with the theory but give it time and they will be revealed with testing and observation. Neal didnt come up with theory he simply aided with a visual

[ArchytypeNet]

I suspect that the real answers lie somewhere between Nial Adams' hypothesis and the modern theory of plate tectonics.

Could it be that plate tectonics is the result of a planet that expanded, producing the fault lines and rifts, up through which the mantle will seep, after which then plate tectonics now explain the current geological phenonmenon of continental drift etc.

How else do you explain the origin of plate tectonics?

[stupidtreehugger]

You 'debunker' attacks the parts of Neal's theory that are weak, like his 'circular pangean island'. He has not touched e.g the repeated proofs from the Moon, Mars, Europa, Ganymede etc. These are compelling. I humbly suggest however that you forget about Neal, or at least keep free rational truthseeking closely under your hat, until you finish your Empire Science studies and any institutional ambitions you might have. No, the Empire doesn't like any truths that might free their sheeple.

[Weddze]

stop doing chemicals you jobs worth

[RyuDarragh]

Sitarow, "science guys" are not infallible. Nor is science. Science, unlike faith (and the closed mind) is *falsifiable*. It can be proven *wrong*. That being said, when you add 2 and 2 and get FIVE, doesn't take much to be proven wrong. The various "hypothesis" (which most folks mistake "theory" for) can be wrong. So can theories themselves. However, all theories can be *tested*. They remain hypothesis *until* they are tested and proven, reliably and repeatedly. Oh, and thanks, "Akiboy111111".

[timoshenko13]

Was that the real Ned Flanders?

[FHARDY17]

ahah ahah hhhahahah hahahahah ahahha

[Sitarow]

You walked threw his numbers?

Yorrike admits to mixing the barycentre with the centre of gravity and you say the numbers are correct?

"Complete bunk?" Thuraly Debunked? I walked threw the calculations myself? Rather bold.

Well its unfortunate that we have to have "FAITH" that these Science guys are infalable.

[stupidtreehugger]

The centre of gravity/pangean circular island is a red herring, and all that maths about it irrelevant. If you look at his stuff on the Moon, Mars (especially the coloured-age map) and the fingerprints on Ganymede (part 19 of the bits on video.google) its impossible to rationally deny. But then, society is not particularly rational.

[stupidtreehugger]

I been up too long: that should have been Europa (part20) has the 'fingerprints'.

[GMBCATASTROPHE]

Its not just CALCULATIONS that you have to worry about. All the logical inferences have to make sense from the ground up.

The fellow getting his maths right cannot change the nature of the real world.

[ManuelHung]

Man, these comments are award winning...

[lolscum]

You don't have an area of expertise. You're doing an internet "degree". Faggot.

[Weddze]

Brilliant comment. this guy took a lot of time to unscientifically tell us the theory sucked. i think he a pedo using it to hide his criminal gang

[Danube03]

shut up faggot

[Jebus9111]

Everyone knew what he meant by the pi r cubed you pretentious faggot. Don't try and pretend you understand what he's saying by pointing out typos like a smug ass burger.