You wrote an article somewhere saying that you know one girl who died and know at least 3 people who attended his lecture. Seriously???? Why do you know so many people interested in this when I know NONE.
And as far as keeping your bone density levels healthy, the key to that is getting enough calcium (for example from milk and cheese), magnesium (from supplements or from almonds), and vitamin D (from milk, sunlight, or vitamin supplements).
Fruits, veggies, nuts, and whole grains, and Omega 3's (from cold water fish or high quality supplements) are an important part of a nutritious balanced diet. What your philosophy won't allow you to admit is that lean (preferably organic grass fed or vegetarian diet) meat and (preferably organic) dairy products are an important part of that as well. Neither your extreme raw vegan diet nor the extreme raw meat only paleo diet you're criticizing will prove healthy for most people.
And acidic fruits, just like acids produced from meat breakdown, can wear away at the enamel of your teeth as well. The eskimos lost all their teeth because they lacked wonderful inventions like the tooth brush, tooth paste, dental floss, listerine, and fluoridated water. Obviously people who don't take care of their dental health will have their teeth rot out of their head. Hygeine and a balanced diet can go a long way toward promoting a longer, healthier, happier life.
Obviously the key is a balanced diet. Moderate amounts of cooked (but not overcooked) lean meats are an excellent source of B vitamins and protein, of which the average human being requires 50-75 grams per day to avoid a net loss of amino acids from muscle tissue, due to the normal process of digestion with the concomitant renewal of the intestinal epithelium along with essential metabolic biosynthesis reactions. It's hard to get those 50-75 grams from a diet of only fruits, veggies, and nuts.
I get that your objections to meat eating are ethical in nature but try not to resort to hyperbole. Non vegans/ vegetarians do not eat rotten or raw meat for the most part. Some may do so, and they risk salmonella and other gastrointestinal illnesses from doing so. But raw unwashed vegetables and fruits can cause illness as well. No one in their right mind would eat anything rotten unless they were starving. Humans are omnivores. The most successful species on this planet are omnivores.
That's a highly doubtful proposition, at best! You may not focus on bodybuilding but if your build is typical of those on a raw vegan diet (if you can show me a highly muscled vegan please do) then it would appear that bodybuilding and veganism aren't exactly compatible.
your an idiot... within 1 minute of this video you are already presenting false information. psilocybin is not manufactored and is a naturally occuring compound.Your obviously trying to prove yourself and be right... put your ego and identity in check brah
I was a bodybuilder who tried Vegan (strict no milk) after not lifting weights in 4 years. BAD. There is a reason Vegans are 99% weak and sick looking.
I stayed on this Vegan shit for 1 year and tried to tell everyone that this is how we are supposed to be. lol
YOU called yourself spiritually enlighten, I was just disagreeing that you were if you still ate meat.......... there is no "good" meat , its all dead
"There is no question that humans are capable of digesting meat. But just because we can digest animals does not mean we're supposed to, or that it will be good for us. We can digest cardboard. But that doesn't mean we should." There for eating meat is ultimatley left up to choice, so it is the enlightened individual "most often" not always who make the desicion for themselves not to partake in the slaughter of innocent creatures for their meat
The most common cause of choking deaths is eating meat. Real carnivores and omnivores don't have that problem bc of their head to mouth ratio (we have small mouths compared to our big heads)
"The animals most similar to us, the other primates, eat an almost exclusively vegan diet (and their main non-plant food often isn't meat, it's termites).
Our teeth, saliva, stomach acid, and intestines are most similar to other plant-eaters, and dissimilar to carnivores and true omnivores.
Among animals, plant-eaters have the longest lifespans, and humans are certainly in that category (and yes, this was true even before modern medicine)."
"Our so-called "canine teeth" are "canine" in name only. Other plant-eaters (like gorillas, horses, and hippos) have "canines", and chimps, who are almost exclusively vegan, have massive canines compared to ours. Our omnivorism means we're capable of eating meat (useful from a survival standpoint if that's all that's available), but our bodies aren't geared for it to be a normal, significant part of our diets. Cats are capable of eating plant foods but its silly to call cats omnivores just
Sorry anyone I offend including truegreatness73 ...... I am just passionate about these things..... its hard to keep quiet when I have seen so many illnesses cured from stopping eating meat...... and no animal suffering.... the two seem to go hand in hand....
ONLY ANIMALS CAN EAT OTHER ANIMALS , THATS WHY THEY HAVE SHARP TEETH AND INTESTINES THAT PASS STRAIGHT THROUGH ...... WE HAVE DULL TEETH AND INTRICATE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM WHERE ALL THE MEAT GETS STUCK IN AN CAUSES DISEASE
@msquire97 i do think that durian needs to eat more greens and promote it. i know he says he eats a salad at night but not sure if that's every evening or not. seems like raw folks sometimes cling to either fruits or veggies but don't always have the best balance.
@msquire97 Thanks for the concern Mark. If you saw how fit I am and what fast runners and cyclists look like then yeah, you would understand we we are ALL lean lol!
Im also 7 years older than when you saw me on VS bro lol!
If I was 'breaking down' then clearly I would NOT be riding faster, stronger, longer and same with my running times right? I wouldnt have the great blood tests either right?
Come to fruit stock this year and learn how to do this LIFESTYLE right bro. Its not a DIET. ;)
@waynebw Bro, Id run cirlces around you, out fight you in the ring and still be able to go ride Cairns to Perth in 39 days. What the fuck have you done lately? A few bench press's in front of the mirror? ;)
Dr. Klaper is the only doctor that really has the facts right for a healthy vegan diet. Check out foods that kill too. The longest living person was not a fruitarian, 80-10-10 is way too extreme. I get the high carb low fat part, and I've done this, banana, dates, mangos. It's fine, but it doesn't feel right for the long run. I feel my brain and skin are way better when I eat grains,beans, some olive oil, other great vegan foods, and lots of water. I agree, dairy is really bad.
Oh, and did I mention that my ex stunk to high heaven? I mean, like a rotting carcass.....he was incredibly stupid to try to control his diabetes with that Primal Diet. That asshole got into so many diabetic comas I thought he'd just drop dead. And, he had terrible, terrible dental hygiene (or lack thereof).
I'm so glad you brought this fake "guru" to light.
I did try the Primal Diet, on the urging of my (now ex) boyfriend, and I ended up in the hospital. Before I met this idiot, my health was fine, and I could consume dairy products with ease. After consuming raw milk (which was banned in California, thank goodness), I got severe food poisoning and was hospitalized. After that, my body's never been the same. I can no longer consume ANYTHING with a hint of dairy without experiencing pain.
@meesterb3rns You should be thankful in a sad way, milk and dairy is not healthy for you anyway, so look at it from a positive point of view, use alternatives such as vegan cheese and soy, rice, almonds, oats and the other kind of milks that are produced. =)
I need to talk to someone. Your blog is the only thing on the internet that talks about Aajonus vonderplanitz book. My father is very ill from following this diet and I have no one to talk to. I need to know how to protect my father. I need to know if there are other cases of illness because of this diet. Please respond.
Sorry to hear about your dad. For your dad, I would follow the nutrition protocol of Lou Corona. Lou is about raw, living (sprouts, etc), naturally cultured foods. Plenty of leafy greens, fruits in moderation (but all the berries you want), and lots of vegetables. A green star will be good to juice and get full absortion of nutrients. Once he gets better, he might consider a long term/sustainable raw diet that might include a little raw animal products on the side to prevent deficiencies.
I think you're great durianrider, love your vids! The paleo diet sounds disgusting, I've just finished Dr Graham's book and have started 801010 , feeling so good! Your videos are very inspiring and what a bonus that you're such a hottie. Keep speaking the truth!
I am a bodybuilder that eats organic foods and grass fed animals. I have read many ups and downs on the vegan diet. I will consider trying this out for a whole month because I am already aware of all the different diets out there. I am perfectly healthy with my lifestyle eating meat probably once a day. I will keep a journal on my 1 month vegan diet to see if I really feel even healthier next month. Hope I dont lose too much muscle doing it as veggies and nuts lack high protein unless its tons
@durianriders Let me know if you want to jump on skype and we can see who is more healthier between us. Humans been living off of animals since the beginning. Today animals are not the same as they use to be because of all the hormones and other poisons they are given. My skype name is the same name as my youtube user. I bet you are not even close to being a bodybuilder. I haven't been sick in like 10 years and I am 26. If you can match that then you can talk to me otherwise hush your mouth.
@TrueGreatness73 Living on animals is what humans resorted too in the dark ages, they lost the spiritual wisdom we once had ........ they were far from source (god) and lowered conciousness (killing, killing, killing.....)........ those that are spiritually enlightened don't eat meat ..... those that are lower conciousness can't help themselves
@ZachandBailey1111 That is your opinion and not facts. I am spiritually enlighten and I eat the best meat out there. You cant come off using your opinions as facts. I am proof that you're statement is wrong.
@TrueGreatness73 If you WERE spiritually enlightened than you would know inherently not to eat meat because it would damage your aura and energy body making it almost impossible to BE spiritually enlightened in the highest sense........... no one whose belly is full of decomposing flesh is gonna be able to hold a higher vibration....
And some of my info is fact, animals DO have sharp meat eating teeth where as we don't and simple digestive systems whereas we don't ..... I mean you don't have to be a scientist to see a corolation there...
@ZachandBailey1111 Explain canine teeth? Explain many people that have sharp teeth? Prove that I am not spiritually enlightened because I eat meat. I am curious to see you're far fetched ideas that you claim as facts. Please tell me "some of the info you claim as facts". I definitely disagree that you are spiritually enlightened. Please explain in your own words the definition of "Spiritually Enlightened". Eating "Good" meat doesn't make you spiritually enlighten is complete nonsense.
@TrueGreatness73 Also you took out of context what I said about being spiritually enlightened , I or my husband never claimed to be, we are trying just like everyone else and hope that one day we can earn that title, I meant that advanced, high vibration, spiritually enlightened people don't eat meat as an observation.....
That's a highly doubtful proposition, at best! You may not focus on bodybuilding but if your build is typical of those on a raw vegan diet (if you can show me a highly muscled vegan please do) then it would appear that bodybuilding and veganism aren't exactly compatible.
That's a highly doubtful proposition, at best! You may not focus on bodybuilding but if your build is typical of those on a raw vegan diet (if you can show me a highly muscled vegan please do) then it would appear that bodybuilding and veganism aren't exactly compatible.
You people are all deceived by the Eskimo propaganda suggesting that there is such a thing as Eskimos who eat raw animals and still live all the way to adulthood. There is no such thing as adulthood. You are wrong. I am smarter than you. Okay, I just wanted to clear that up for anyone who was wondering.... ;)
@durianriders Which cultures would they be ? AFAIK there has never been a Vegetarian Culture that has existed for any real length of time... and AFAIK our ancestors existed for millions of years eating mainly meat.
Likewise the lifespan of different animals is totally irrelevant.. there are plant eating animals that also live very short periods.. so the theory that it's an effect of diet is illogical.
I have no idea what you mean with your sex and mothers comment.
@Ozrace Can you name a tribe that didnt eat other tribe members? I cant. So if your using that angle then we should be eating other humans! END OF STORY!!
@durianriders Tribes only ate people from other tribes. Also, that doesn't really make any sense. In fact, you don't really say anything in your video. Veggies are like a religion for ya, aye?
@Ozrace You fat, out of shape guys really make me laugh. Go to a local gym and find the biggest redneck bicep on legs and ask him how many chickens he eats a a day and how many times he injects b12. Get back to us with the results.
Hey, I thought only b12 supps were for vegans right? ;)
@durianriders Did you delete my reply ? I hope not.. dealing with questions you can't answer by avoiding them is poor form.
I asked you which vegetarian cultures you are referring to, as I know of none...and I pointed out the lack of logic in the longest lived mammals argument as the answer is actually man anyway, and you fail to provide any link between diet and lifespan.
That last bit made me laugh,Im not surprised that guy was vomiting!! All those parasites and bacteria YUK ! He must be crazy.How can anybody eat nothing but raw meat its disgusting we humans are not designed to be carnivores.My experience of people who eat a lot of meat is that they are aggressive,have bad breath,bad teeth and suffer from all kind of ailments.Meat is bad for the body,the mind and the soul,If humans were meant to hunt they would have claws and sharp teeth!
@sallyb4441 Truth ot the matter is, meat eaters are more manly, bigger and stronger. If you eat raw vegan diet + meat Youll be as powerfull as youll ever be. Try it ;). I felt shit and always craving as a vegan, now I am the best version of myself. The key is to avoid processed food
@Inflamsx Nothing would induce me to eat animal flesh Ive got more sense.If you didnt feel good on a vegan diet then you didnt research it properly because even doctors agree its the healthiest diet,and many long term scientific studies prove it. Humans are natural herbivores,we dont have the digestive tract to deal with meat. Its a proven fact that the less meat you eat,the healthier you will be.
@sallyb4441 Really? How do you explain the deficiencies of Vitamin A, Vitamin B12, Vitamin D, EPA, DHA, CLA, tryptophan, etc? Also, doctors are not trained in nutrition, they are trained in symptoms and pharmaceutical drugs.
Read Weston A. Price: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. Read chapter 5, Isolated and Modernized Eskimos. The Eskimos that had less than a percent in caries (cavities) ate a diet that consisted up to 90% animal protein and fat! The ones that ate modern food, had tooth decay! Many Cultures had thrived on diets that were indigenous to them, it’s when they were lead off their diets disease would follow. There is NO one way to eat!
This guy looks like a wimp next to Aajonus. Amazing this guy spends so much time and energy criticizing the diet when he hasn't even tried it. Aajonus must be spreading some truth for people to be so adamant about discrediting him.
The view that paleolithic ancestors ate raw meat is wrong. Any archaeologist will tell you that humans COOKED meat - only hominid ancestors ate raw meat, scavanged from the left overs of big carnivores- once fire was discovered around 1 million years ago meat was COOKED.
If it is indeed a parasitic and bacterial infection/ food poisoning... have you ever heard of ozonated water? I think some of the claims made by Aajonus are misleading, like telling people to eaten 40 to 50 day rotten eggs, meat thats been rotting for a year... our primal ancestors wouldn't even do that!!! However I respectfully disagree with you on the raw meat thing. But for real.... Check out the bob beck protocol or get a cheap ozone generator and ozonate water for your friend.
Marijuana is not poison! Check out the documentary phoenixtears, or a man here on youtube got off his antiretrovirals and used marijuana oil for it and helped most of the conditions, though it didnt cure him of aids, other people used it for cancer and were cured. But marijuana has been a medicine for hundreds and thougsands of years. Meth is not a medicine and don't put it in the category. I do agree eating Rotten meat is bad, and Im sorry for your friend :( you could help him though.....
Even if he does hit the bong and enjoy a few magic mushrooms on occasion what does that have to do with his diet being bad? Have you ever smoked pot? have you ever smoked hash? have you ever taken mushrooms? or do you just believe everything the government/medical institutes tells you?
Though expecting a guy wearing a "Go Vegan!" shirt to have an impartial opinion on an all meat diet is like expecting the Pope to have an impartial opinion on religion.
@Pineconefacenose I just rewatched your video and obviously you have never taken mushrooms and don't even know what Psilocybin is. A manufactured hallucinagen? Yeah... if you consider a mushroom growing to be manufacturing it. Vitamin C must be a manufactured drug as well.. what with all those fruits making it. At least attempt to know what you are talking about before you blast people on it.
@Pineconefacenose I used to smoke bongs, do acid, speed, meth and lots o mushrooms. I have personal experience to say how toxic ALL of these drugs are.
Taking drugs baring emergency surgery is not part of healthful living.
@durianriders i haven't found any research stating that acid is toxic...i can see how mushrooms and pot are toxic, but acid is SUCH A SMALL DOSE how could it possibly be toxic? the paper is the size of a kiwi seed!
@mrhowardpreston Yeah a low fat, high carb vegan diet will heal bones quick I agree. I just got back from a 90km xc ride with 1500m of elveation. Good endurance on this vegan diet I agree too. Good to hear your doing well.
@mrhowardpreston How do you know that the benefit comes from the meat and not from the fruits and vegetables? :) You loose 90% of energy on every step on the food chain, 10 kilos of bananas makes 1 kilo flesh.. Dr Doug Graham are also extremely fit and he eats only raw fruits and veggies.. we also know that meat does cause big problems, not only to the animals, but also to the consumers of meat..
@parhatsathid If you have ever eaten yoghurt, then you have eaten 'rotten' milk. Sauerkraut is just rotted cabbage. Ripe bananas are just in the first stage of going rotten. If it works, use it!
You could probably use some 'high meat'. It is said to help bring clarity to the brain! Cheers
@parhatsathid 'Contempt before complete investigation, enslaves the mind(soul) to ignorance.' - Einstein
Rats aren't ignorant. They can work out what's good for them. The humans that experiment on them, are the dumb ones.
The rotten meat you refer to, is called 'high meat'. It is placed in a jar with a lid,kept in the fridge, then allowed to accumulate bacteria, etc., over a 6-8 week period. You air the jar outside every 2-3 days to allow more bacteria to form.
@Rawbeing so Luke you call me a liar on my youtube channel but when I ask for information you wont provide it?
I dont want people to 'follow me' I want people to experience the same level of health and fitness I do ie our optimum potential.
I always speak the facts Luke when it comes to health cos I want people to know what works, what is down right dangerous and kills people (dry fasting, animal products, drugs abuse, sedentary lifestyle: all things AV has made up into a hollywood movie book)
@durianriders There you go again, Harley. Taking the facts out of context, then putting them into your own ' hollywood movie book'. You haven't responded to my posts lately(not that you have to) so I assume you agree, or cannot answer to them. Again I suggest you visit Daniel Vitalis' site. He's a cool dude, who seems grounded and balanced on the subject of diet and lifestyle. Although you don't have to agree with his diet, his attitude to life is worth paying attention to.
@durianriders Also, what you focus on, grows. Your continued attention to Aajonas will more than likely lead more folk to him. Who knows, maybe even yourself?!
Oh, by the way, I do agree, dry fasting,sedentary lifestyles is not the best. But all things have a place at sometime or other. It's up to the individual to decide that.
@durianriders Re. raw meat eater friends having on going teeth issues? This one has been explained as well, in previous posts It's a similar issue on which you state when 'vegans' do not follow the correct procedures, they run into health problems! Also the body apparently detoxes heavy metals from the brain(when able to), and the main pathway is via the teeth and gums. I will attempt to post a more accurate explanation of this later.
Anyway, sorry to butt in. ('tho it is an open site.) :-)
@durianriders - I've already answered most of these questions for you, Harley. And yet you're still using them as falsehoods to discredit the Primal Diet and AV.
Apparently yes he did vomit at his talk. It happens. Bad timing, perhaps, but it doesn't imply or prove any false representation.
No, Aajonus doesn't do drugs.
No, he doesn't eat white bread now.
YES he needed two false front teeth after being beaten and robbed in Thailand.
@durianriders - I can't speak to you're friends teeth problems. But you're mocking of AV's vomiting speaks to your lack of knowledge of the natural detoxification process within the body on the road to optimal health and healing.
You're friend could have anything from molds in his gums to silver poisoning from fillings that could be now ready to detoxify.
Is he following the PD 100%? Or maybe he eats Snickers bars between raw meat meals? :0)
Harley, my name is Luke you know me. You are way out of line. You and I both know that the committed Paleo eater you speak of did not follow that diet. This person was my friend and what you have said and written is a 100% LIE. I am appalled that you would do such a thing. You are disrespecting her and yourself. I ask you to tell the truth in this matter. I am saddened that Freelea supports you in this. If you are so passionate about your diet, then don't mix lies in with what you see as truth.
Are we talking about Vee? Our housemate? What have I said that is not true? Should we let Vee's death be in vain or should we speak the truth so others dont have to make the same mistakes bro?
Ps: when are you gonna fix us up for that phone Freelee sold you? :)
I'm sure you know it already. Harley already being healthy as is.
Yet all of you just wanna use "raw vegan" as an excuse to say it's "intenal suicide" and use Harley's appearance as an excuse to say "YOU'RE SCREWED" when you know you're fucking wrong.
Harley ain't posting these vids for nothing.
If there are critics of raw veganism BEFORE Harley's videos came to be, there will be the opposite.
@00rpc You're words are slightly jumbled,(no insult intended) which makes it difficult to get the gist of your post. The 'all of you' part is not correct. Most of us here are just recording our opinions and insights into this interesting subject of health, fitness and well being.(and then some!) I react to Harley a bit when he over revs. on the 'quotes and criticisms'. Very stimulating though when we can stay on the' theme track. ' If you can explain the last bit of your post, 'twould be good
Your an Idiot. Ive seen your videos and your nervous system is basically Manic and extremely ungrounded. I have seen countless numbers of people end up emaciated and manic on raw vegan diets. And i have seen people REVERSE CANCER, and other diseases on a Primal Diet. ....
@szymborski11 I agree with you, there is lots of anorexics that come to raw vegan and go off the deep end cos they try and live on 2 bananas a day and half a lettuce and then they say 'I did that raw vegan thing and ...'
My ex housemate died last year of renal failure and was a committed paleo eater. The autopsy report found the body RIDDLED with lymphoma cancer.
Where are these magical people you speak of and how come none of them are on forums or anything like that?
@durianriders Most eating plans come under ridicule based on a few who come undone because they did not follow or understand the proper procedure. You would understand this based on your ridicule of the P.D.
As for those 'magical folk' who have overcome cancer, etc., be it by the P.D.or other,most are happy to just get on with their lives,and live that new life to the fullest. On that note i think i will pull the 'Paleo ten speed' out of the shed,and do the odd jaunt here and there ! Cheers!
@durianriders did he swicth from ever being raw vegan? Did he rapidly switch from being a raw vegan? Then load himself up with massive loads of raw meat protien and fat, to much for his body to even handle, because his system and kidneys was so weak. And that lymphoma cancer was already developing from starving himself and over exercising on very little calories, or massives of sugar. . Just a theory. How long was he trying to eat paleo? How long was he raw vegan, if he was ever raw vegan???
Durianriders keep asking for athletes who are paleo eaters, here is a bunch of them; "v=fY9ceulkVzs", "v=dXz2dUprLAg". Strong healthy men and women who do crossfit games, who say the same thing over and over. Eat fats, more fats, and meats. Stay off sugar, starch and grains...sounds pretty straight forward paleo to me.
@fucknuaf what sort of links were those? They didnt even come up with a google search! lol!
Come on champ, give us some real hardcore athletes to examine!
Even Aajonus himself eats and recommends starches and sugars in his most recently published book 'we want to live'.
I dont understand where you peeps get the idea that low carb atkins diet is healthy..how come none of you are athletic? is it cos your so unfit cos your diet is so deficient in carbs and too high in fat? I mean that nicely.
I found those sites. Had a quick look. Not exactly what I was looking for, but they seemed to be having fun.
Daniel Vitalis' site and his videos i found very interesting! If your talking Paleo,(dictionary-paleo- combining form older or ancient, esp. relating to the geological past :ORIGIN from Greek palaios ancient.) then he seems to be living closer to
that form. The way you use the word 'paleo' leads me to believe you think it means something else. I'm Curious?
@durianriders those are youtube links. look at the top of your browser where you insert links. It is the last part of a youtube link, since youtube wont allow the posting of full links. v for Video and then the number which includes Hex decimals. I have never said people should not eat sugars, I eat fruits and berries, only local ones though. If you think you can do MMA without being athletic, you are quite silly Try and look up any fight, even amateur ones.
@durianriders Among MMA fighters it is common to have around 60% intake of meat and fats. The rest is greens, nuts, seeds and a bit of fruit. Some take in 80% meat and fats (like I do) and some even more, but most keep some sugars and carbs in their diet, often just because it makes fine deserts. We need strength in our sport. Can you do this to your girlfriend mate "v=ojJYExObKG4". And this fighter is not a very big guy. 84kg, 186cm but his strength to mass ratio impressive!
@durianriders Harley I was looking at an earlier comment of yours,- "even aajonus himself eats cooked as he says in his book 'we want to live' page 43." I checked the 'We want to live' book that I have, and page 43 has no mention of him saying he eats cooked food. Nor the pages either side. Do you have a different book? Might pay to quote the complete paragraph, or chapter number so i can find it. Can you do that please. It will obviously help to know in what context it was meant.Cheers.
I'm not sure about this. Durian seems like a cooler guy, but I think I'm more inclined to believe Vonderplanitz at the moment. There are so many videos which provide really really solid evidence as to why vegan diets are pretty bad for you. If you eat the raw meat that you get from supermarkets then, yeah, you'll get sick, but it's surely true that saturated fat from organic, grass-fed meat is very beneficial for you, but the FDA would rather you bought cheap to produce carby products. ?_?
It's nice to see an intelligent,balanced response. Aajonas' diet does work! At 64 he's doing very well, considering the start he had in life.( Harley seems to forget this when he is making his comments.) He's also a pioneer in this lifestyle of his. Edison found 200 ways how not to make a light bulb, but they credited him with the one that worked. Aajonas has erred here and there, which we all do, (right Harley?) but he has something that works! And if it works, keep doing it!
@durianriders Great to hear there are fit, heaIthy 64 yo. vegan marathon runners about! But I can't remember reading that Aajonas was a marathon runner?! It seems odd that the few answers you give are almost always of an athletic nature?!
Like I've stated before, most no not want to be elite athletes!
Do you have a link to the history of one of these guys. I'm sure they exist,but I'd just like to check their details.(ie. Did they have a similar start in life to Aajonas, etc.)
@cheleagh he did NOT pioneer this diet. At all. It has been used by natural bodybuilders for a 100 years. His only addition to what was common knowledge among people who was really into health and fitness was to add rotten meat, which I personally think is pretty screwball. But to each their own. The guy looks healthy, so apparently it does him well. But I wouldnt eat that.
@fucknuaf Just bringing up Sobanski87 suggeation a while back - Go to Daniel Vitalis' website, read "Hunter Safety? ~ Why I am not a Vegan" This is a good account of Daniel's progress through life on different types of food regimes. I'm still reading it, but have passed the section where he mentions using the Primal Diet. i can relate to it well. Harley, you should read it. At least you will relate to some of it. Sorry, not much mention of Cardio. :-) Cheers.
@cheleagh 7 minutes old, and this post was marked as "spam" allready. Heavens these vegans are dishonest. Thanks for the advice mate, will look it up.
@00rpc did you actually read the post in question. The cheleagh refered me to a guy called Daniel Vitalis and something he wrote called 'hunter safety-why I am not a vegan'. He did not post links. Now. I later discovered that a lot of the hardcore almost combatant vegans had a fallout with Vitalis because he left their rawligion, so could it be there mention of Daniel Vitalis that gave the spam flag in mere minutes? I think it was. It certainly wasnt a bible quote mate
It didn't show up on my browser as "spam" until I rechecked again. Seems like a YT glitch.
I didn't say the post in question being a "biblical quote." I'm saying biblical quotes do get automatically counted as spam in mere seconds, as they are not relevant to most content we watch. Even if people never hit the "mark as spam button"
I'm sure that is the same case with that Daniel Vitalis information posted by cheelaugh, yet you go blaming vegans? I doubt they're that obssessed.
@00rpc " I doubt they're that obssessed" hahaha youre a funny guy. Ok, for the sake of good spirit lets say it was a YT error. test, Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. "Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; And you shall eat the plants of the field; (3:17-18)
@cheleagh take a look at the first lines of bodybuilders, guys like Vince Gironda who drank massive amounts of raw milk. Or my personal hero Armand Tanny who was a raw meat eater aswell. Lived to be 90. The reason he started eating raw meat was because he spend time with -I think young Maoi's who ate raw meat and eggs. He was so impressed with their strength, energy and build that when he came home, he turned off his oven and never looked back. a year later he was on the stage in a competition.
@fucknuaf Thanks for the info. I'll look into it more. Man has probably been eating raw meat for thousands of years. Nothing new there. i was just relating to his form of the primal diet. Not many teaching, or consulting with his particular style. Have you studied his program. Unless you go right into it, it can seem a bit , as you say it, 'screwball'. But that's like a lot of things innovative. It folk don't understand it, they will mostly push it away. (usually through ridicule) Understandable
@cheleagh I am relatively new to him and what he does. He only popped up on my radar a small month ago, so I do not really have a right to judge his program. THe one I am at atm. Is working really well for me, so I'll just stick to that. But whatever makes people feel good, they should most definately do, that including eating fruits untill they fall over. The last worry that I have in this world, is other peoples diet. ;)
@fucknuaf Yep. Well stated. If it's working, stay at it. i had a lot of reservations with the P.D. and I still haven't fully committed to it.(About 85%) But I have friends who have, and are doing very well! Not without the challenges though. And this is what attracts me to it the most. It can be a huge challenge to the mind.(ego)
I'm very happy with my results so far. And the 'taming' of the mind. Our emotional and mental 'bodies' are the areas that need the most attention! Difficult areas!
@CooperLee what does the human body run on? glucose. What is the best source of glucose? meat, eggs, fish and dairy or fruit? exactly.
Aajonus recommends white bread and butter for breakfast. Read his book, I aint making that up.
White bread and magic mushrooms? You think that is healthy? :)
Go find me an elite athlete that eats a high fat diet like AV prescribes. Go find me ONE paleo eater that has some decent cardio? Most of the paleo crew are faceless avitars talk'n shite on my channel. :)
@durianriders White bread and butter? Man, that sounds crazy. I'm all for raw butter but white bread is the devil. I will add his book to my list of things to read. As for the glucose comment, most things are broken down into glucose, dude. Carbs, proteins and fats. Just that with fruits comes fructose, which after doing research, in my opinion, is something you don't really want more then 25g or so a day of. I think FASTING in a vegan way is beneficial, but not for a whole life.
@CooperLee He's taking the white bread and butter thing way out of context. It just something A.V. used for a particular purpose some time ago. Harley picks through someones 'life story', and comes up with a few 'anomalies' and off he goes with his bias interpretation of it . Any P.D'er I'm aware of has never been told to eat that for breakfast. There may be certain cases where Aajonas would advise them to do that, or eat some cooked food to slow the detox effects. (Mainly in older folk)
@cheleagh I know someone who says aajonus prescribed him cooked carbs every six times a month before he goes to sleep that night, for a start. Then the diet went raw. He never told him to eat starch in the morning. Besides that I know many primal dieters with diets from aajonus, none ever included cooked carbs or cooked anything else on their regimen.
@durianriders about talking shite on your channel. I dont think I got an answer to the mushroom bullshit you were spewing. The outright lies you were telling naive people.
aajonus is not my Guru, i only heard of the guy a couple of weeks ago, and I think he is a crackpot. But one with a very healthy muscle building diet. Unless he is actually promoting giving magic mushrooms to kids, I think you should set ablaze your own strawman.
@fucknuaf magic mushrooms are toxic to the human body. As toxic as cocaine but not as addictive. When 'health experts' are promoting the use of recreational drugs as health promoting, one has to seriously question their credibility.
Ive done magic mushrooms as a teenager and experienced the extreme hallucinations that are created when one is near death from the drug poison.
@durianrider I am not going to spend one minute defending someone I think is a crackpot. But that doesnt mean that I will give someone else with an Agenda a free pass on telling outright lies mate. And you may have felt you were about to die as part of your trip but unless you are highly allergic to mushrooms, chances are that you were no where near LD50. Chanting such nonsense hurts psilocybins chances of making it to where it belongs, which is our list of effective natural medicines.
This guy will say anything to further the vegan cause. Some of what he says here is a complete lie. The guy is in his head.... sugar keeps him there. Don't throw stones skinny man when your guru looks a mess and you look pre-pubesent without your shirt. And that is a fact.
@primaloid I look so young dont I? And Aajonus says fruit is aging? Maybe you and AV need to get together over a dead cat and get your facts worked out eh?
Dead cat is what AV recommends if one wants an 'asian primal diet meal'.
@durianriders whats wrong with eating cat? have you tasted it? does it taste bad? It is a bit hard to judge if you look young or not with all the light glow in the video. But honestly, in the few spots that are not glowing, you dont look all that healthy for an adult male IMO =/
@00rpc match what? Are you seriously suggesting that this skinny pale bloke should do an MMA fight with a guy weighing in at 110kg with around 12-16% body fat? What would that prove, other than the plain obvious, that skinny blokes get punched and kneed silly in mere seconds? This aggressive confrontational attitude is so typical vegan. You people are seriously out of balance.
Yeah, and your (not just yours) and few other confrontational attitude is no different.
When you know damn right that raw vegan works, you guys just come around and say "oh but your skinny, raw vegan doesn't work, YOU'RE GONNA DIE!" there's plenty of people thriving even at an old age. You all don't want to admit it.
So of course I'll be "confrontational," troll style, and make y'alls serious.
You wrote an article somewhere saying that you know one girl who died and know at least 3 people who attended his lecture. Seriously???? Why do you know so many people interested in this when I know NONE.
1xDollyx1 2 weeks ago
And as far as keeping your bone density levels healthy, the key to that is getting enough calcium (for example from milk and cheese), magnesium (from supplements or from almonds), and vitamin D (from milk, sunlight, or vitamin supplements).
roonalwazlib 1 month ago
Fruits, veggies, nuts, and whole grains, and Omega 3's (from cold water fish or high quality supplements) are an important part of a nutritious balanced diet. What your philosophy won't allow you to admit is that lean (preferably organic grass fed or vegetarian diet) meat and (preferably organic) dairy products are an important part of that as well. Neither your extreme raw vegan diet nor the extreme raw meat only paleo diet you're criticizing will prove healthy for most people.
roonalwazlib 1 month ago
And acidic fruits, just like acids produced from meat breakdown, can wear away at the enamel of your teeth as well. The eskimos lost all their teeth because they lacked wonderful inventions like the tooth brush, tooth paste, dental floss, listerine, and fluoridated water. Obviously people who don't take care of their dental health will have their teeth rot out of their head. Hygeine and a balanced diet can go a long way toward promoting a longer, healthier, happier life.
roonalwazlib 1 month ago
Obviously the key is a balanced diet. Moderate amounts of cooked (but not overcooked) lean meats are an excellent source of B vitamins and protein, of which the average human being requires 50-75 grams per day to avoid a net loss of amino acids from muscle tissue, due to the normal process of digestion with the concomitant renewal of the intestinal epithelium along with essential metabolic biosynthesis reactions. It's hard to get those 50-75 grams from a diet of only fruits, veggies, and nuts.
roonalwazlib 1 month ago
I get that your objections to meat eating are ethical in nature but try not to resort to hyperbole. Non vegans/ vegetarians do not eat rotten or raw meat for the most part. Some may do so, and they risk salmonella and other gastrointestinal illnesses from doing so. But raw unwashed vegetables and fruits can cause illness as well. No one in their right mind would eat anything rotten unless they were starving. Humans are omnivores. The most successful species on this planet are omnivores.
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@durianriders
That's a highly doubtful proposition, at best! You may not focus on bodybuilding but if your build is typical of those on a raw vegan diet (if you can show me a highly muscled vegan please do) then it would appear that bodybuilding and veganism aren't exactly compatible.
roonalwazlib 1 month ago
your an idiot... within 1 minute of this video you are already presenting false information. psilocybin is not manufactored and is a naturally occuring compound.Your obviously trying to prove yourself and be right... put your ego and identity in check brah
polishfarmer132 1 month ago 2
great analysis of this work and author.
MetalMistress888 1 month ago
I was a bodybuilder who tried Vegan (strict no milk) after not lifting weights in 4 years. BAD. There is a reason Vegans are 99% weak and sick looking.
I stayed on this Vegan shit for 1 year and tried to tell everyone that this is how we are supposed to be. lol
parasitesarefunny 2 months ago
Another specimen of New Age fanatics who think their POV pushing is based on natural facts.
EunusRex 2 months ago
If anyone needs more info read "humans are natural plant eaters" by Micheal Bluejay ....... lots of good facts
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
YOU called yourself spiritually enlighten, I was just disagreeing that you were if you still ate meat.......... there is no "good" meat , its all dead
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
"There is no question that humans are capable of digesting meat. But just because we can digest animals does not mean we're supposed to, or that it will be good for us. We can digest cardboard. But that doesn't mean we should." There for eating meat is ultimatley left up to choice, so it is the enlightened individual "most often" not always who make the desicion for themselves not to partake in the slaughter of innocent creatures for their meat
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
The most common cause of choking deaths is eating meat. Real carnivores and omnivores don't have that problem bc of their head to mouth ratio (we have small mouths compared to our big heads)
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
"The animals most similar to us, the other primates, eat an almost exclusively vegan diet (and their main non-plant food often isn't meat, it's termites).
Our teeth, saliva, stomach acid, and intestines are most similar to other plant-eaters, and dissimilar to carnivores and true omnivores.
Among animals, plant-eaters have the longest lifespans, and humans are certainly in that category (and yes, this was true even before modern medicine)."
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
"Our so-called "canine teeth" are "canine" in name only. Other plant-eaters (like gorillas, horses, and hippos) have "canines", and chimps, who are almost exclusively vegan, have massive canines compared to ours. Our omnivorism means we're capable of eating meat (useful from a survival standpoint if that's all that's available), but our bodies aren't geared for it to be a normal, significant part of our diets. Cats are capable of eating plant foods but its silly to call cats omnivores just
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
Sorry anyone I offend including truegreatness73 ...... I am just passionate about these things..... its hard to keep quiet when I have seen so many illnesses cured from stopping eating meat...... and no animal suffering.... the two seem to go hand in hand....
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
ONLY ANIMALS CAN EAT OTHER ANIMALS , THATS WHY THEY HAVE SHARP TEETH AND INTESTINES THAT PASS STRAIGHT THROUGH ...... WE HAVE DULL TEETH AND INTRICATE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM WHERE ALL THE MEAT GETS STUCK IN AN CAUSES DISEASE
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OUR BODIES ARE TEMPLES , NOT GRAVEYARDS FOR ROTTING DECOMPOSING DECAPITATED FLESH.... BAD BAD KARMA
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@msquire97 i do think that durian needs to eat more greens and promote it. i know he says he eats a salad at night but not sure if that's every evening or not. seems like raw folks sometimes cling to either fruits or veggies but don't always have the best balance.
ftwbk 6 months ago
@msquire97 Thanks for the concern Mark. If you saw how fit I am and what fast runners and cyclists look like then yeah, you would understand we we are ALL lean lol!
Im also 7 years older than when you saw me on VS bro lol!
If I was 'breaking down' then clearly I would NOT be riding faster, stronger, longer and same with my running times right? I wouldnt have the great blood tests either right?
Come to fruit stock this year and learn how to do this LIFESTYLE right bro. Its not a DIET. ;)
durianriders 8 months ago 8
@durianriders It's from training you moron. And you take B12 shots, 'nuff said.
waynebw 5 months ago
@waynebw Bro, Id run cirlces around you, out fight you in the ring and still be able to go ride Cairns to Perth in 39 days. What the fuck have you done lately? A few bench press's in front of the mirror? ;)
durianriders 4 months ago 2
Dr. Klaper is the only doctor that really has the facts right for a healthy vegan diet. Check out foods that kill too. The longest living person was not a fruitarian, 80-10-10 is way too extreme. I get the high carb low fat part, and I've done this, banana, dates, mangos. It's fine, but it doesn't feel right for the long run. I feel my brain and skin are way better when I eat grains,beans, some olive oil, other great vegan foods, and lots of water. I agree, dairy is really bad.
TheChertron 8 months ago
Agree....try it so you know what you are talking about.....because you obviously don't.
tradergs 9 months ago
wow... isn't this the pot calling the kettle black... mate you're as much of a dietary extremist as Aajonus.
groundnpounder 10 months ago 2
Oh, and did I mention that my ex stunk to high heaven? I mean, like a rotting carcass.....he was incredibly stupid to try to control his diabetes with that Primal Diet. That asshole got into so many diabetic comas I thought he'd just drop dead. And, he had terrible, terrible dental hygiene (or lack thereof).
meesterb3rns 10 months ago
I'm so glad you brought this fake "guru" to light.
I did try the Primal Diet, on the urging of my (now ex) boyfriend, and I ended up in the hospital. Before I met this idiot, my health was fine, and I could consume dairy products with ease. After consuming raw milk (which was banned in California, thank goodness), I got severe food poisoning and was hospitalized. After that, my body's never been the same. I can no longer consume ANYTHING with a hint of dairy without experiencing pain.
meesterb3rns 10 months ago
@meesterb3rns You should be thankful in a sad way, milk and dairy is not healthy for you anyway, so look at it from a positive point of view, use alternatives such as vegan cheese and soy, rice, almonds, oats and the other kind of milks that are produced. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
the best thing about your video is how funny you think you are
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powella90 10 months ago
I need to talk to someone. Your blog is the only thing on the internet that talks about Aajonus vonderplanitz book. My father is very ill from following this diet and I have no one to talk to. I need to know how to protect my father. I need to know if there are other cases of illness because of this diet. Please respond.
Qwendellen 11 months ago
Sorry to hear about your dad. For your dad, I would follow the nutrition protocol of Lou Corona. Lou is about raw, living (sprouts, etc), naturally cultured foods. Plenty of leafy greens, fruits in moderation (but all the berries you want), and lots of vegetables. A green star will be good to juice and get full absortion of nutrients. Once he gets better, he might consider a long term/sustainable raw diet that might include a little raw animal products on the side to prevent deficiencies.
smr144 11 months ago
@Qwendellen What diet, the raw vegan or the paleo?
frodosauce 9 months ago
where did you get than tank?
itsscottfolz 11 months ago
I think you're great durianrider, love your vids! The paleo diet sounds disgusting, I've just finished Dr Graham's book and have started 801010 , feeling so good! Your videos are very inspiring and what a bonus that you're such a hottie. Keep speaking the truth!
julescurt 11 months ago
I am a bodybuilder that eats organic foods and grass fed animals. I have read many ups and downs on the vegan diet. I will consider trying this out for a whole month because I am already aware of all the different diets out there. I am perfectly healthy with my lifestyle eating meat probably once a day. I will keep a journal on my 1 month vegan diet to see if I really feel even healthier next month. Hope I dont lose too much muscle doing it as veggies and nuts lack high protein unless its tons
TrueGreatness73 11 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Reality is bro that there is vegan bodybuilders and competitive powerlifters out there that can kick your ass TODAY. Think about it.
durianriders 4 months ago 3
@durianriders Let me know if you want to jump on skype and we can see who is more healthier between us. Humans been living off of animals since the beginning. Today animals are not the same as they use to be because of all the hormones and other poisons they are given. My skype name is the same name as my youtube user. I bet you are not even close to being a bodybuilder. I haven't been sick in like 10 years and I am 26. If you can match that then you can talk to me otherwise hush your mouth.
TrueGreatness73 4 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Living on animals is what humans resorted too in the dark ages, they lost the spiritual wisdom we once had ........ they were far from source (god) and lowered conciousness (killing, killing, killing.....)........ those that are spiritually enlightened don't eat meat ..... those that are lower conciousness can't help themselves
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@ZachandBailey1111 That is your opinion and not facts. I am spiritually enlighten and I eat the best meat out there. You cant come off using your opinions as facts. I am proof that you're statement is wrong.
TrueGreatness73 4 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 If you WERE spiritually enlightened than you would know inherently not to eat meat because it would damage your aura and energy body making it almost impossible to BE spiritually enlightened in the highest sense........... no one whose belly is full of decomposing flesh is gonna be able to hold a higher vibration....
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
And some of my info is fact, animals DO have sharp meat eating teeth where as we don't and simple digestive systems whereas we don't ..... I mean you don't have to be a scientist to see a corolation there...
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
@ZachandBailey1111 Explain canine teeth? Explain many people that have sharp teeth? Prove that I am not spiritually enlightened because I eat meat. I am curious to see you're far fetched ideas that you claim as facts. Please tell me "some of the info you claim as facts". I definitely disagree that you are spiritually enlightened. Please explain in your own words the definition of "Spiritually Enlightened". Eating "Good" meat doesn't make you spiritually enlighten is complete nonsense.
TrueGreatness73 4 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Well I had hoped it would'nt come to this, but here are the facts you are seeking......
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
bc they are capable of eating that way"
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Also you took out of context what I said about being spiritually enlightened , I or my husband never claimed to be, we are trying just like everyone else and hope that one day we can earn that title, I meant that advanced, high vibration, spiritually enlightened people don't eat meat as an observation.....
ZachandBailey1111 4 months ago
@durianriders
That's a highly doubtful proposition, at best! You may not focus on bodybuilding but if your build is typical of those on a raw vegan diet (if you can show me a highly muscled vegan please do) then it would appear that bodybuilding and veganism aren't exactly compatible.
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@durianriders
That's a highly doubtful proposition, at best! You may not focus on bodybuilding but if your build is typical of those on a raw vegan diet (if you can show me a highly muscled vegan please do) then it would appear that bodybuilding and veganism aren't exactly compatible.
roonalwazlib 1 month ago
You people are all deceived by the Eskimo propaganda suggesting that there is such a thing as Eskimos who eat raw animals and still live all the way to adulthood. There is no such thing as adulthood. You are wrong. I am smarter than you. Okay, I just wanted to clear that up for anyone who was wondering.... ;)
144jr144 1 year ago
Kindness, tact, diplomacy... Let us all have more... O and humility...
AOZXRAY 1 year ago
Sorry.. I see you didn't delete it... looking forward to your response though :)
Ozrace 1 year ago
ty Harly
Rachna888 1 year ago
Why do you call meat "toxic meat" ? We've been eating it for millions of years !
Suggesting that meat is toxic is just a lie.. sorry dude, no credibility.
Ozrace 1 year ago 4
@Ozrace If eating animal carcass is healthy then why are the longest lived mammals and cultures all plant based?
We have been having sex with out mothers for a long time too, feel free to continue the tradition if you want bro. ;)
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Which cultures would they be ? AFAIK there has never been a Vegetarian Culture that has existed for any real length of time... and AFAIK our ancestors existed for millions of years eating mainly meat.
Likewise the lifespan of different animals is totally irrelevant.. there are plant eating animals that also live very short periods.. so the theory that it's an effect of diet is illogical.
I have no idea what you mean with your sex and mothers comment.
Ozrace 1 year ago
@Ozrace Can you name a tribe that didnt eat other tribe members? I cant. So if your using that angle then we should be eating other humans! END OF STORY!!
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Tribes only ate people from other tribes. Also, that doesn't really make any sense. In fact, you don't really say anything in your video. Veggies are like a religion for ya, aye?
IchKalmbach 1 year ago
@durianriders- You have no idea what you're talking about do you ?
The fact that you need B12 injections should be enough to tell you your dietary choices are wrong.
Ozrace 11 months ago
@Ozrace You fat, out of shape guys really make me laugh. Go to a local gym and find the biggest redneck bicep on legs and ask him how many chickens he eats a a day and how many times he injects b12. Get back to us with the results.
Hey, I thought only b12 supps were for vegans right? ;)
durianriders 11 months ago
@durianriders - yep.. you're an idiot, otherwise you wouldn't make assumptions about people you don't know.
You try to justify the fact that YOU need B12 by saying other people and dogs too.. crazy.
You scrawny loonies who need to eat insects or get B12 injections make me laugh.
:)
Ozrace 11 months ago
@durianriders Did you delete my reply ? I hope not.. dealing with questions you can't answer by avoiding them is poor form.
I asked you which vegetarian cultures you are referring to, as I know of none...and I pointed out the lack of logic in the longest lived mammals argument as the answer is actually man anyway, and you fail to provide any link between diet and lifespan.
Ozrace 1 year ago
More hate from me:
This guy lookes like a skeleton
Inflamsx 1 year ago 6
@Inflamsx Cos I can ride, bench press and run longer, faster than you. ;)
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Yes mister skeleton with no muscles. You can!
Inflamsx 1 year ago
@Inflamsx You say Harley (durianriders) is Mister Skeleton with no muscles. I think he's sexy.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@Inflamsx someone's jealous....
darlingfruta 9 months ago
@Inflamsx Are you kidding?
12caredee21 5 months ago
@Inflamsx you should watch his other video called: "Durianrider: Am I too Thin?"
MetalMistress888 1 month ago
@tmpillofoutpost
and calling out his vegan propaganda to stop normal people from eating the "rotten corpses of murdered animals"
tmsods 1 year ago
That last bit made me laugh,Im not surprised that guy was vomiting!! All those parasites and bacteria YUK ! He must be crazy.How can anybody eat nothing but raw meat its disgusting we humans are not designed to be carnivores.My experience of people who eat a lot of meat is that they are aggressive,have bad breath,bad teeth and suffer from all kind of ailments.Meat is bad for the body,the mind and the soul,If humans were meant to hunt they would have claws and sharp teeth!
sallyb4441 1 year ago
@sallyb4441 Truth ot the matter is, meat eaters are more manly, bigger and stronger. If you eat raw vegan diet + meat Youll be as powerfull as youll ever be. Try it ;). I felt shit and always craving as a vegan, now I am the best version of myself. The key is to avoid processed food
Inflamsx 1 year ago
@Inflamsx Nothing would induce me to eat animal flesh Ive got more sense.If you didnt feel good on a vegan diet then you didnt research it properly because even doctors agree its the healthiest diet,and many long term scientific studies prove it. Humans are natural herbivores,we dont have the digestive tract to deal with meat. Its a proven fact that the less meat you eat,the healthier you will be.
sallyb4441 1 year ago
@sallyb4441 Really? How do you explain the deficiencies of Vitamin A, Vitamin B12, Vitamin D, EPA, DHA, CLA, tryptophan, etc? Also, doctors are not trained in nutrition, they are trained in symptoms and pharmaceutical drugs.
timmyxdl 1 year ago
@sallyb4441 Also, how do I get rid of the phytic acid and cellulose problem?
timmyxdl 1 year ago
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Read Weston A. Price: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. Read chapter 5, Isolated and Modernized Eskimos. The Eskimos that had less than a percent in caries (cavities) ate a diet that consisted up to 90% animal protein and fat! The ones that ate modern food, had tooth decay! Many Cultures had thrived on diets that were indigenous to them, it’s when they were lead off their diets disease would follow. There is NO one way to eat!
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This guy looks like a wimp next to Aajonus. Amazing this guy spends so much time and energy criticizing the diet when he hasn't even tried it. Aajonus must be spreading some truth for people to be so adamant about discrediting him.
calishaye 1 year ago
The view that paleolithic ancestors ate raw meat is wrong. Any archaeologist will tell you that humans COOKED meat - only hominid ancestors ate raw meat, scavanged from the left overs of big carnivores- once fire was discovered around 1 million years ago meat was COOKED.
forestdweller68 1 year ago
If it is indeed a parasitic and bacterial infection/ food poisoning... have you ever heard of ozonated water? I think some of the claims made by Aajonus are misleading, like telling people to eaten 40 to 50 day rotten eggs, meat thats been rotting for a year... our primal ancestors wouldn't even do that!!! However I respectfully disagree with you on the raw meat thing. But for real.... Check out the bob beck protocol or get a cheap ozone generator and ozonate water for your friend.
prsglenn 1 year ago
Marijuana is not poison! Check out the documentary phoenixtears, or a man here on youtube got off his antiretrovirals and used marijuana oil for it and helped most of the conditions, though it didnt cure him of aids, other people used it for cancer and were cured. But marijuana has been a medicine for hundreds and thougsands of years. Meth is not a medicine and don't put it in the category. I do agree eating Rotten meat is bad, and Im sorry for your friend :( you could help him though.....
prsglenn 1 year ago 2
Even if he does hit the bong and enjoy a few magic mushrooms on occasion what does that have to do with his diet being bad? Have you ever smoked pot? have you ever smoked hash? have you ever taken mushrooms? or do you just believe everything the government/medical institutes tells you?
Though expecting a guy wearing a "Go Vegan!" shirt to have an impartial opinion on an all meat diet is like expecting the Pope to have an impartial opinion on religion.
Pineconefacenose 1 year ago
@Pineconefacenose I just rewatched your video and obviously you have never taken mushrooms and don't even know what Psilocybin is. A manufactured hallucinagen? Yeah... if you consider a mushroom growing to be manufacturing it. Vitamin C must be a manufactured drug as well.. what with all those fruits making it. At least attempt to know what you are talking about before you blast people on it.
Pineconefacenose 1 year ago
@Pineconefacenose I used to smoke bongs, do acid, speed, meth and lots o mushrooms. I have personal experience to say how toxic ALL of these drugs are.
Taking drugs baring emergency surgery is not part of healthful living.
durianriders 1 year ago 3
@durianriders i haven't found any research stating that acid is toxic...i can see how mushrooms and pot are toxic, but acid is SUCH A SMALL DOSE how could it possibly be toxic? the paper is the size of a kiwi seed!
trevfrank 1 year ago
@durianriders Says a talking skeleton.
IchKalmbach 1 year ago
I have been on the diet for a year now, and I revered my acne problem, endurance increased.
I also broke my toe in the sport of Brazilian jiu jitsu, and it healed within 5 days - I continued training on day 5.
Try it out before criticizing.
mrhowardpreston 1 year ago 10
@mrhowardpreston Yeah a low fat, high carb vegan diet will heal bones quick I agree. I just got back from a 90km xc ride with 1500m of elveation. Good endurance on this vegan diet I agree too. Good to hear your doing well.
durianriders 1 year ago
@mrhowardpreston How do you know that the benefit comes from the meat and not from the fruits and vegetables? :) You loose 90% of energy on every step on the food chain, 10 kilos of bananas makes 1 kilo flesh.. Dr Doug Graham are also extremely fit and he eats only raw fruits and veggies.. we also know that meat does cause big problems, not only to the animals, but also to the consumers of meat..
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@mrhowardpreston Are you talking about a vegan diet? I would do it but i love meat too much lol.
100percentNatural100 8 months ago
Thanks so much for this video.
I just don't want to pay and read AV's book about raw meat.
Another great point to share with my friends who feed themselves and children high fat animal meat, dairy.
GandJLivingRaw 1 year ago
wow
roottruthseeker 1 year ago
@parhatsathid If you have ever eaten yoghurt, then you have eaten 'rotten' milk. Sauerkraut is just rotted cabbage. Ripe bananas are just in the first stage of going rotten. If it works, use it!
You could probably use some 'high meat'. It is said to help bring clarity to the brain! Cheers
cheleagh 1 year ago 2
@parhatsathid 'Contempt before complete investigation, enslaves the mind(soul) to ignorance.' - Einstein
Rats aren't ignorant. They can work out what's good for them. The humans that experiment on them, are the dumb ones.
The rotten meat you refer to, is called 'high meat'. It is placed in a jar with a lid,kept in the fridge, then allowed to accumulate bacteria, etc., over a 6-8 week period. You air the jar outside every 2-3 days to allow more bacteria to form.
Used sparingly as a medicine.
cheleagh 1 year ago
@Rawbeing so Luke you call me a liar on my youtube channel but when I ask for information you wont provide it?
I dont want people to 'follow me' I want people to experience the same level of health and fitness I do ie our optimum potential.
I always speak the facts Luke when it comes to health cos I want people to know what works, what is down right dangerous and kills people (dry fasting, animal products, drugs abuse, sedentary lifestyle: all things AV has made up into a hollywood movie book)
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders There you go again, Harley. Taking the facts out of context, then putting them into your own ' hollywood movie book'. You haven't responded to my posts lately(not that you have to) so I assume you agree, or cannot answer to them. Again I suggest you visit Daniel Vitalis' site. He's a cool dude, who seems grounded and balanced on the subject of diet and lifestyle. Although you don't have to agree with his diet, his attitude to life is worth paying attention to.
cheleagh 1 year ago
@durianriders Also, what you focus on, grows. Your continued attention to Aajonas will more than likely lead more folk to him. Who knows, maybe even yourself?!
Oh, by the way, I do agree, dry fasting,sedentary lifestyles is not the best. But all things have a place at sometime or other. It's up to the individual to decide that.
Cheers, mate.
cheleagh 1 year ago
Luke, is it true that Aajonus was vomiting at his recent talk in Australia? Am I lying about that one? :)
Does Aajonus do drugs? Am I lying about that one? :)
Aajonus eats organic white bread to help his blood pressure. Am I lying about that one?
Aajonus has false teeth? Am I lying about that one?
Am I lying about Ian going to hospital in an ambulance with a closed up throat infection?
Am I lying about my raw meat eater friends having on going teeth issues?
Am i lying? :)
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Hey Harley,Re. lying- he's talking about your friend, not Aajonas!
Re Aajonas vomiting at Oz. workshop. Yes he did. So? The body clearing toxins. What toxins? Does it matter! The body is just doing it's job.
Re. Aajonus eats organic white bread. Give it a break!! This one's been flogged to death!!
Re. Aajonus has false teeth? Am I lying about that one? I don't know? You may not
be lying, but you are probably guessing. I will try and find out for you.
Ooohhh Boy!!??
cheleagh 1 year ago
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cheleagh 1 year ago
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@durianriders Re. raw meat eater friends having on going teeth issues? This one has been explained as well, in previous posts It's a similar issue on which you state when 'vegans' do not follow the correct procedures, they run into health problems! Also the body apparently detoxes heavy metals from the brain(when able to), and the main pathway is via the teeth and gums. I will attempt to post a more accurate explanation of this later.
Anyway, sorry to butt in. ('tho it is an open site.) :-)
cheleagh 1 year ago
@durianriders - I've already answered most of these questions for you, Harley. And yet you're still using them as falsehoods to discredit the Primal Diet and AV.
Apparently yes he did vomit at his talk. It happens. Bad timing, perhaps, but it doesn't imply or prove any false representation.
No, Aajonus doesn't do drugs.
No, he doesn't eat white bread now.
YES he needed two false front teeth after being beaten and robbed in Thailand.
Rawbase8 1 year ago
@durianriders - I can't speak to you're friends teeth problems. But you're mocking of AV's vomiting speaks to your lack of knowledge of the natural detoxification process within the body on the road to optimal health and healing.
You're friend could have anything from molds in his gums to silver poisoning from fillings that could be now ready to detoxify.
Is he following the PD 100%? Or maybe he eats Snickers bars between raw meat meals? :0)
Rawbase8 1 year ago
Harley, my name is Luke you know me. You are way out of line. You and I both know that the committed Paleo eater you speak of did not follow that diet. This person was my friend and what you have said and written is a 100% LIE. I am appalled that you would do such a thing. You are disrespecting her and yourself. I ask you to tell the truth in this matter. I am saddened that Freelea supports you in this. If you are so passionate about your diet, then don't mix lies in with what you see as truth.
Rawbeing 1 year ago
@Rawbeing Luke can you be more objective bro?
Are we talking about Vee? Our housemate? What have I said that is not true? Should we let Vee's death be in vain or should we speak the truth so others dont have to make the same mistakes bro?
Ps: when are you gonna fix us up for that phone Freelee sold you? :)
durianriders 1 year ago
@Rawbeing Fill us in bro, maybe you know things I dont know and maybe I know things you dont know. Together we can help each other.
Tell me what Im lying about bro?
durianriders 1 year ago
psilocybin mushrooms are revolutionary and amazing...
todayisthedaytolive 1 year ago
I'm sure you know it already. Harley already being healthy as is.
Yet all of you just wanna use "raw vegan" as an excuse to say it's "intenal suicide" and use Harley's appearance as an excuse to say "YOU'RE SCREWED" when you know you're fucking wrong.
Harley ain't posting these vids for nothing.
If there are critics of raw veganism BEFORE Harley's videos came to be, there will be the opposite.
00rpc 1 year ago
@00rpc You're words are slightly jumbled,(no insult intended) which makes it difficult to get the gist of your post. The 'all of you' part is not correct. Most of us here are just recording our opinions and insights into this interesting subject of health, fitness and well being.(and then some!) I react to Harley a bit when he over revs. on the 'quotes and criticisms'. Very stimulating though when we can stay on the' theme track. ' If you can explain the last bit of your post, 'twould be good
cheleagh 1 year ago
Your an Idiot. Ive seen your videos and your nervous system is basically Manic and extremely ungrounded. I have seen countless numbers of people end up emaciated and manic on raw vegan diets. And i have seen people REVERSE CANCER, and other diseases on a Primal Diet. ....
szymborski11 1 year ago
@szymborski11 I agree with you, there is lots of anorexics that come to raw vegan and go off the deep end cos they try and live on 2 bananas a day and half a lettuce and then they say 'I did that raw vegan thing and ...'
My ex housemate died last year of renal failure and was a committed paleo eater. The autopsy report found the body RIDDLED with lymphoma cancer.
Where are these magical people you speak of and how come none of them are on forums or anything like that?
Interesting huh?
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Most eating plans come under ridicule based on a few who come undone because they did not follow or understand the proper procedure. You would understand this based on your ridicule of the P.D.
As for those 'magical folk' who have overcome cancer, etc., be it by the P.D.or other,most are happy to just get on with their lives,and live that new life to the fullest. On that note i think i will pull the 'Paleo ten speed' out of the shed,and do the odd jaunt here and there ! Cheers!
cheleagh 1 year ago
@durianriders did he swicth from ever being raw vegan? Did he rapidly switch from being a raw vegan? Then load himself up with massive loads of raw meat protien and fat, to much for his body to even handle, because his system and kidneys was so weak. And that lymphoma cancer was already developing from starving himself and over exercising on very little calories, or massives of sugar. . Just a theory. How long was he trying to eat paleo? How long was he raw vegan, if he was ever raw vegan???
szymborski11 1 year ago
Durianriders keep asking for athletes who are paleo eaters, here is a bunch of them; "v=fY9ceulkVzs", "v=dXz2dUprLAg". Strong healthy men and women who do crossfit games, who say the same thing over and over. Eat fats, more fats, and meats. Stay off sugar, starch and grains...sounds pretty straight forward paleo to me.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf what sort of links were those? They didnt even come up with a google search! lol!
Come on champ, give us some real hardcore athletes to examine!
Even Aajonus himself eats and recommends starches and sugars in his most recently published book 'we want to live'.
I dont understand where you peeps get the idea that low carb atkins diet is healthy..how come none of you are athletic? is it cos your so unfit cos your diet is so deficient in carbs and too high in fat? I mean that nicely.
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Hi Harley
I found those sites. Had a quick look. Not exactly what I was looking for, but they seemed to be having fun.
Daniel Vitalis' site and his videos i found very interesting! If your talking Paleo,(dictionary-paleo- combining form older or ancient, esp. relating to the geological past :ORIGIN from Greek palaios ancient.) then he seems to be living closer to
that form. The way you use the word 'paleo' leads me to believe you think it means something else. I'm Curious?
cheleagh 1 year ago
@durianriders those are youtube links. look at the top of your browser where you insert links. It is the last part of a youtube link, since youtube wont allow the posting of full links. v for Video and then the number which includes Hex decimals. I have never said people should not eat sugars, I eat fruits and berries, only local ones though. If you think you can do MMA without being athletic, you are quite silly Try and look up any fight, even amateur ones.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@durianriders Among MMA fighters it is common to have around 60% intake of meat and fats. The rest is greens, nuts, seeds and a bit of fruit. Some take in 80% meat and fats (like I do) and some even more, but most keep some sugars and carbs in their diet, often just because it makes fine deserts. We need strength in our sport. Can you do this to your girlfriend mate "v=ojJYExObKG4". And this fighter is not a very big guy. 84kg, 186cm but his strength to mass ratio impressive!
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@durianriders Harley I was looking at an earlier comment of yours,- "even aajonus himself eats cooked as he says in his book 'we want to live' page 43." I checked the 'We want to live' book that I have, and page 43 has no mention of him saying he eats cooked food. Nor the pages either side. Do you have a different book? Might pay to quote the complete paragraph, or chapter number so i can find it. Can you do that please. It will obviously help to know in what context it was meant.Cheers.
cheleagh 1 year ago
I'm not sure about this. Durian seems like a cooler guy, but I think I'm more inclined to believe Vonderplanitz at the moment. There are so many videos which provide really really solid evidence as to why vegan diets are pretty bad for you. If you eat the raw meat that you get from supermarkets then, yeah, you'll get sick, but it's surely true that saturated fat from organic, grass-fed meat is very beneficial for you, but the FDA would rather you bought cheap to produce carby products. ?_?
CooperLee 1 year ago
@CooperLee
It's nice to see an intelligent,balanced response. Aajonas' diet does work! At 64 he's doing very well, considering the start he had in life.( Harley seems to forget this when he is making his comments.) He's also a pioneer in this lifestyle of his. Edison found 200 ways how not to make a light bulb, but they credited him with the one that worked. Aajonas has erred here and there, which we all do, (right Harley?) but he has something that works! And if it works, keep doing it!
cheleagh 1 year ago
@cheleagh I know 64 year old vegans that can run laps around aajonus in the marathon distance.
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders Great to hear there are fit, heaIthy 64 yo. vegan marathon runners about! But I can't remember reading that Aajonas was a marathon runner?! It seems odd that the few answers you give are almost always of an athletic nature?!
Like I've stated before, most no not want to be elite athletes!
Do you have a link to the history of one of these guys. I'm sure they exist,but I'd just like to check their details.(ie. Did they have a similar start in life to Aajonas, etc.)
Cheers!
cheleagh 1 year ago
@cheleagh he did NOT pioneer this diet. At all. It has been used by natural bodybuilders for a 100 years. His only addition to what was common knowledge among people who was really into health and fitness was to add rotten meat, which I personally think is pretty screwball. But to each their own. The guy looks healthy, so apparently it does him well. But I wouldnt eat that.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
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@fucknuaf Just bringing up Sobanski87 suggeation a while back - Go to Daniel Vitalis' website, read "Hunter Safety? ~ Why I am not a Vegan" This is a good account of Daniel's progress through life on different types of food regimes. I'm still reading it, but have passed the section where he mentions using the Primal Diet. i can relate to it well. Harley, you should read it. At least you will relate to some of it. Sorry, not much mention of Cardio. :-) Cheers.
cheleagh 1 year ago
@cheleagh 7 minutes old, and this post was marked as "spam" allready. Heavens these vegans are dishonest. Thanks for the advice mate, will look it up.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf
what post as spam? So it's all "vegan people's fault" for every comment that is seen as spam?
get real bud. I've seen people post passages purely from the bible, and within seconds it got counted as spam.
You see, it's that stereotypical attitude that causes unnecessary..."internet discomfort?"
Now I think I'm affected. LOL
00rpc 1 year ago
@00rpc did you actually read the post in question. The cheleagh refered me to a guy called Daniel Vitalis and something he wrote called 'hunter safety-why I am not a vegan'. He did not post links. Now. I later discovered that a lot of the hardcore almost combatant vegans had a fallout with Vitalis because he left their rawligion, so could it be there mention of Daniel Vitalis that gave the spam flag in mere minutes? I think it was. It certainly wasnt a bible quote mate
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf
It didn't show up on my browser as "spam" until I rechecked again. Seems like a YT glitch.
I didn't say the post in question being a "biblical quote." I'm saying biblical quotes do get automatically counted as spam in mere seconds, as they are not relevant to most content we watch. Even if people never hit the "mark as spam button"
I'm sure that is the same case with that Daniel Vitalis information posted by cheelaugh, yet you go blaming vegans? I doubt they're that obssessed.
00rpc 1 year ago
@00rpc " I doubt they're that obssessed" hahaha youre a funny guy. Ok, for the sake of good spirit lets say it was a YT error. test, Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. "Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; And you shall eat the plants of the field; (3:17-18)
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@cheleagh take a look at the first lines of bodybuilders, guys like Vince Gironda who drank massive amounts of raw milk. Or my personal hero Armand Tanny who was a raw meat eater aswell. Lived to be 90. The reason he started eating raw meat was because he spend time with -I think young Maoi's who ate raw meat and eggs. He was so impressed with their strength, energy and build that when he came home, he turned off his oven and never looked back. a year later he was on the stage in a competition.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf Thanks for the info. I'll look into it more. Man has probably been eating raw meat for thousands of years. Nothing new there. i was just relating to his form of the primal diet. Not many teaching, or consulting with his particular style. Have you studied his program. Unless you go right into it, it can seem a bit , as you say it, 'screwball'. But that's like a lot of things innovative. It folk don't understand it, they will mostly push it away. (usually through ridicule) Understandable
cheleagh 1 year ago
@cheleagh I am relatively new to him and what he does. He only popped up on my radar a small month ago, so I do not really have a right to judge his program. THe one I am at atm. Is working really well for me, so I'll just stick to that. But whatever makes people feel good, they should most definately do, that including eating fruits untill they fall over. The last worry that I have in this world, is other peoples diet. ;)
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf Yep. Well stated. If it's working, stay at it. i had a lot of reservations with the P.D. and I still haven't fully committed to it.(About 85%) But I have friends who have, and are doing very well! Not without the challenges though. And this is what attracts me to it the most. It can be a huge challenge to the mind.(ego)
I'm very happy with my results so far. And the 'taming' of the mind. Our emotional and mental 'bodies' are the areas that need the most attention! Difficult areas!
cheleagh 1 year ago
@CooperLee what does the human body run on? glucose. What is the best source of glucose? meat, eggs, fish and dairy or fruit? exactly.
Aajonus recommends white bread and butter for breakfast. Read his book, I aint making that up.
White bread and magic mushrooms? You think that is healthy? :)
Go find me an elite athlete that eats a high fat diet like AV prescribes. Go find me ONE paleo eater that has some decent cardio? Most of the paleo crew are faceless avitars talk'n shite on my channel. :)
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders White bread and butter? Man, that sounds crazy. I'm all for raw butter but white bread is the devil. I will add his book to my list of things to read. As for the glucose comment, most things are broken down into glucose, dude. Carbs, proteins and fats. Just that with fruits comes fructose, which after doing research, in my opinion, is something you don't really want more then 25g or so a day of. I think FASTING in a vegan way is beneficial, but not for a whole life.
CooperLee 1 year ago
@CooperLee He's taking the white bread and butter thing way out of context. It just something A.V. used for a particular purpose some time ago. Harley picks through someones 'life story', and comes up with a few 'anomalies' and off he goes with his bias interpretation of it . Any P.D'er I'm aware of has never been told to eat that for breakfast. There may be certain cases where Aajonas would advise them to do that, or eat some cooked food to slow the detox effects. (Mainly in older folk)
Cheers
cheleagh 1 year ago
@cheleagh I know someone who says aajonus prescribed him cooked carbs every six times a month before he goes to sleep that night, for a start. Then the diet went raw. He never told him to eat starch in the morning. Besides that I know many primal dieters with diets from aajonus, none ever included cooked carbs or cooked anything else on their regimen.
PrimalLadyRosy 1 year ago
@durianriders about talking shite on your channel. I dont think I got an answer to the mushroom bullshit you were spewing. The outright lies you were telling naive people.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
Pineapples cure stomach cancer!
murukku58 1 year ago
DR only speaks the truth :) you rock!
ajchanter 1 year ago
fuck, I've never seen so much utter shit in a single video on youtube
kraftwerk1970 1 year ago
Sock puppet nº1
DrSeptember 1 year ago
@kraftwerk1970 your right, AV talks a lot of shite doesnt he?
Eat cats if your in the philipines,
Eat meerkats if you in Africa
Eat dolphins if your in Japan.
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders
It's nice to see you are promoting the travel and eating guide for the Primal Diet. :-)
cheleagh 1 year ago
typical vegitarian propaganda
kraftwerk1970 1 year ago
I love you
sspetrou102 1 year ago 2
aajonus is not my Guru, i only heard of the guy a couple of weeks ago, and I think he is a crackpot. But one with a very healthy muscle building diet. Unless he is actually promoting giving magic mushrooms to kids, I think you should set ablaze your own strawman.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf magic mushrooms are toxic to the human body. As toxic as cocaine but not as addictive. When 'health experts' are promoting the use of recreational drugs as health promoting, one has to seriously question their credibility.
Ive done magic mushrooms as a teenager and experienced the extreme hallucinations that are created when one is near death from the drug poison.
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianrider I am not going to spend one minute defending someone I think is a crackpot. But that doesnt mean that I will give someone else with an Agenda a free pass on telling outright lies mate. And you may have felt you were about to die as part of your trip but unless you are highly allergic to mushrooms, chances are that you were no where near LD50. Chanting such nonsense hurts psilocybins chances of making it to where it belongs, which is our list of effective natural medicines.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
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fucknuaf 1 year ago
This guy will say anything to further the vegan cause. Some of what he says here is a complete lie. The guy is in his head.... sugar keeps him there. Don't throw stones skinny man when your guru looks a mess and you look pre-pubesent without your shirt. And that is a fact.
primaloid 1 year ago
Sock puppet nº2
DrSeptember 1 year ago
@primaloid I look so young dont I? And Aajonus says fruit is aging? Maybe you and AV need to get together over a dead cat and get your facts worked out eh?
Dead cat is what AV recommends if one wants an 'asian primal diet meal'.
durianriders 1 year ago
@durianriders whats wrong with eating cat? have you tasted it? does it taste bad? It is a bit hard to judge if you look young or not with all the light glow in the video. But honestly, in the few spots that are not glowing, you dont look all that healthy for an adult male IMO =/
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf
looks don't cut to the chase, if you think you can match him; do it. I'm sure he'll be glad to accept the challenge.
00rpc 1 year ago
@00rpc match what? Are you seriously suggesting that this skinny pale bloke should do an MMA fight with a guy weighing in at 110kg with around 12-16% body fat? What would that prove, other than the plain obvious, that skinny blokes get punched and kneed silly in mere seconds? This aggressive confrontational attitude is so typical vegan. You people are seriously out of balance.
fucknuaf 1 year ago
@fucknuaf
Yeah, and your (not just yours) and few other confrontational attitude is no different.
When you know damn right that raw vegan works, you guys just come around and say "oh but your skinny, raw vegan doesn't work, YOU'RE GONNA DIE!" there's plenty of people thriving even at an old age. You all don't want to admit it.
So of course I'll be "confrontational," troll style, and make y'alls serious.
00rpc 1 year ago