Debating release of the accused Lockerbie bomber

[yusukeshinyama]

I love how this moderator guy is being harsh for all of the panels. It must be very difficult to be an impartial and likable guy at the same time, especially in this kind of emotional situation. He had to be hated by both sides, and I think he did a good job for it.

[jimlaregina]

Do a web search of the exact phrase "Lockerbie in the Propaganda System" for information on the so-called Lockerbie bomber the corporate media has done a poor job reporting.

[elhayya]

btw love what the Libyan man @ 34:00-35:20 had to say about Libya's corruption locking up political prisoners and dissenters, and/or innocent ppl accused of treason by other regular civilians who who want to get even. Its no wonder every Libyan is paranoid and mum. All someone has to do is point and your a goner.

[elhayya]

I love how daniel starts

"I feel compassionate about arab-anglo relations"

he elaborates why

"b/c the arab world is important strategically....economically for the British"

Im so sick of white conservatives that just want to extend a hand to arabs b/c they want to ride our buttholes. They are no better than the facist party. One wants to kill us b/c we're less, the other wants to use us b/c we're less.

Fuck them all.

[elhayya]

*passionate

[RGMorgan]

There was a pathetically low level of discourse in this debate from all parties except for the Scottish man who lost a daughter in the bombing. The moderator brought the level of the debate down every time he opened his mouth, the for side was belligerent, there was a ghadafi apologetic on the against side, and the audience questions were all re-hashes of the opening questions or grade-school level polemics. This is worse than a middle school debate class.

[Fukkutah]

Israeli mass murders and war criminals responsible for numerous acts of genocide and crimes against humanity have yet to be captured, sentenced or jailed, let alone released for compassion. These Israeli terrorists continue to dodge justice and have fled "Scot Free" from the worst cases of state-sponsored terrorism perhaps in the history of mankind. Why isn't that up for debate?

[Darkhorse21x]

No one asked the Dr who lost a daughter about what evidence he has seen and heard regarding the innocence of the convicted terrorist.

[OG420ful]

Ok all u guy's are naive..Under Scottish Law they can release a prisoner under compassion grounds..so i dont know wat the big fuss is about its there law simple ;)

[OG420ful]

Listen guy's this whole debate has been misunderstood with all of them..SCOTISH LAW has a law where they can release a prisoner on compassion grounds so whats the big fuss about?? thats there law its that simple :)

[asphyxiafeeling]

The moderator seems really rude! Maybe this is normal for the BBC? If a moderator acted like in a US program people would be shocked!

[Fukkutah]

I don't know if you watch Fox News .. Hannity and O'reilly? Then again US news programming have become incompetent in producing real news and only capable of serving their master's agenda through spin, propaganda and in case of Fox news total made-up shit. Tim Sebastian is a seasoned journalist and broadcaster who asks the difficult questions. Such journalists have disappeared in America certainly during the Bush administration: example 9/11 unanswered questions and so much more.

[asphyxiafeeling]

Haha, yeah, after i posted my comment i thought of Fox News. I kind of see O'reilly and his buddies as infotainment more than news!

In retrospect this moderator IS really just being a good host and pressuring both sides, which is fair. I guess i was just caught off guard by how confrontational he seemed!

[paulinotou]

@Fukkutah "american news"? is fox isnt pro american. if you got your head out of your ass you would see that fox is a wild machine gun. if you actually watched it you would see them banging obama ten times what they did to canada or what ever. they are biased only towards republicans

[luftrofl]

Wow, the moderator is an interrupting bitch.

Get rid of him. 1 star.

[NwZ2]

Wow, that man's a christian in the TRUE sense of the phrase. Bravo to him; we needa import him to the U.S., n get these crazy creationists to become more like him. :P

[yamuboy]

The conservative MP is rather thick.

[Kirilltraceur]

dicks interrupt.

let a man finish!

[heal2012]

Nothing new.. just another false flag

[zayadnay]

wow this host is a dick ! i don't mind the fact that he's confronting his quests when it comes to facts and not just agreeing with them as they do here in the u.s. but seriously he doesn't allow them to give their full opinion

[mahyarmohaghegh]

THIS IS SO GRIMEY

hahahhaha look at my comment compared to the others

[JAVEDRIZWANDX]

ARAB AND BBC porpaganda Debating ? death to both,

[antiwarcampaigner]

This conservative MP is a trained propagandist. Its people like him with his double standards and frankly, lies. He talks about libya supplying the IRA with weapons but what about the USA who were openly fundraising for the the republican terrorists but nothing is said about that.

[colmmernagh]

@antiwarcampaigner, you must have went to the same school, how about adding British intelligence funding loyalist terrorist groups or posing as terrorists in Iraq ??

[yearight1970]

USA the country never did any fund raising for IRA it was private organisations within that did, USA has its hand in many terrorist operations though funding & training latin American terrorists

[NwZ2]

why WOULD anything be said about it? By HIS own logic, the U.S.'s actions would be condemned too.

[Marco81MX]

I would support life imprisonment with no exception if those who kill millions under false pretenses are rotting on the cell next door. There is no justice if it is not applied equally.

[marniespeaks]

qatar foundation?

[sanfordhousing]

The CIA and British intelligence service has it's grubby fingerprints all over this story,and the shooting of PC Fletcher in a protest in central London,Black flag operations in the USA such as 911,the list goes on,Lest we forget those who fell in WW11,Libya was occupied by three european army;s that fought battles across their country four times,the slaughter of Libyans was enormous we have their innocent blood on our hands ,may the blessing of peace be upon you compassion respect and trust,

[darktoadthesticky]

Too much politics that have nothing to do with the debate.

The debate is if a convicted murder should be released because he is about to die. An act of mercy.

Does the seriousness of the crime over ride the possibility of mercy?

[yearight1970]

A very small price to pay for Oil security for Britain comparing to what US did in Iraq, 1 million 3 million refugees, very small price indeed.

[eternallord]

Only one of those speakers didn't sound like a person trying to further a political agenda.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

It is worth mentioning that throughout the course of this debate, the Conservative Member of Parliament opposing the release of al-Megrahi is willing to do anything but address the issue of justice and whether or not al-Megrahi was or was not innocent.

[dackjaniels555]

Where was the mercy for the victims?

He should have rotted in jail just like every other mass murdered.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, it is true, has never apologised to the family members of the victims of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103. But, of course, the reason why he has never apologised is because of the very simple fact that he has -- and continues to -- profess his innocence and deny any involvement in the atrocity. Ultimately, it is a little harsh to expect someone to apologise for a crime they claim not to have committed.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

However, Al Megrahi has, as it happens, expressed his deepest sympathies with the family members of the victims of the Lockerbie Bombing. In an article published in The Telegraph on 20th August 2009, Al Megrahi is quoted as saying: they (the victims family members) continue to have my sincere sympathy for the unimaginable loss they have suffered.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

Furthermore, the article then goes on to quote the former Labour party Member of Parliament, Tam Dalyell, who is quoted as saying: I continue to believe [that al-Megrahi] had nothing whatsoever to do with the crime of Lockerbie. And this is a view that is endorsed by many of the family members of the British victims of the bombing.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

For example, in an article published in The Scotsman, also on the 20th August 2009, two of victims of the Lockerbie Bombing welcomed the release of Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, with Martin Cadman, whom lost his son in the bombing, describing Megrahis initial conviction as being a farce and al-Megrahis release as just righting a wrong.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

In addition, Jim Swire, whom lost his daughter in the bombing, is quoted in the very same article as saying: I dont believe for a moment that this man [al-Megrahi] was involved in the bombing. And that he felt: despondent that the west and Scotland didnt have the guts to allow this mans second appeal because I am convinced had they done so it would have overturned the verdict against him.

[TheGrubStreetHack]

I, personally, think it would be for the best of all involved if al-Megrahis appeal against his initial conviction for the bombing of flight 103 were to be allowed to continue. And be allowed to continue in an international setting, no less.

[dackjaniels555]

4:40 Great job on calling a con(servative) out on their BS.

They will use any excuse for their prejudice.