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  • I love GT5. I've been a long-time GT fanboy. But ever since I got a G27 my tastes have become more refined. I want real close racing, I want to compete in proper races, and this is something that neither the AI or the online in GT5 can fulfil. Sure, if you get amongst the right crowd and organise races, GT5 can be a blast online. But the iRacing community as a whole is just like certain sects of serious GT5 racers. I will be signing up next month and i'm fairly confident I won't look back.

  • Im not an rFacotor fanboy or anything but honestly this looks shit compared to an rfactor vs real vid

  • @DynamicProGamer its not about the looks as much as it is about the physics buddy,,,cant beat those physics,,,just outstanding.....

  • only americans are able to hype like this

  • Too realistic....

  • ok, who else seriously couldnt tell which one was the real one for a couple of seconds?

  • @FIREDELL10 yeah I no right, incredible..

  • One more question, which kinda of tires iRacing gives to use ? Slicks ? and how many rl players have gone at the track to show car manufacturers how their cars should be driven ? and how many have ever drove exact the same cars in rl ? Just asking if it's "properly" made, where is the self gained experience from actual cars, and please dont say "A Nascar champion uses iRacing for practising" because that is pure marketing trick

  • That's pretty amazing. Every tree, every bump, faithfully recreated on the iracing track. Simply impressive. Cool video!

  • And whats making one sim/game more realistic over another is about how close the developers manage to get the real life data of the vehicles about handling (everything regarding handling). I know GT5 has the label sneakily added "the true driving simulator" (or something similar), but that is really not true. Its hard to get super graphics and proper data working at the same time since computers would need to be super pc's. Too much data through the cpu in more realistic sims. look at milsims.

  • Cars are more than 3 meter long, weights around a ton, so what kinda of wheels you people use if you can actually feel everything your car does in Iracing ?? I believe most cars have different wheels in rl, but if I am, for example, using Logitech G27, how could it be realistic if EVERY car had the exact the same wheel ? This leads me into conclusion that Iracing and GT and even Forza is more than close to each other what comes to realism...

  • @Sampyla20plus Well, for starters you can sett the FFB on each car the way you want. So on cars with no power steering you can up the strength and it gets a lot heavier. Especially when not moving. This is adjustable on a car by car basis if you choose. If you leave the FFB alone, every car does have different FFB. The Jetta for example is a bit heavy and you feel the torque steer in the wheel. Suspension and alignment effects the feel too. More caster for example makes steering heavy.

  • @cbremer83 Sounds good enough :) tho similar effect in GT5 too, totally different experience if using old American Muscle instead of Honda Civic Type R and so on but to be honest it's good that there is options for people who wants to experience motorsport without actually going at Tracks, if possible give me your laptimes at Laguna Seca or Silverstone made in iRacing and I'd be happy :)

  • iRacing sucks :--

  • Thats insane!!

  • i like the one on the right the best, I want to play that one!!!

  • да ну, даже трасссу не смогли нормально сделать что мешало поребрики полосатить

  • Forza is a much better racing game than Gran Turismo 5... The online community, cockpit view for EVERY car, ALL the cars are HD models, the tracks and environment look incredibly better, better menus, FAR better upgrades, and WAAAY better tuning. The only thing I can give GT5 is it's sense of speed, which is commendable, but not enough to tip the scales in favor of everything else being better in Forza.

    But iRacing looks amazing, I think I'm going to try it out.

  • @dizturbedone lol nobody cares about forza, idk if you noticed but this isnt a GT5 Vs. Forza video so go push ur opinion elsewhere.

  • @dizturbedone People seriously need to stop mixing arcades (GT5 and Forza) with simulations...seriously...comp­aring Forza or GT5 with iRacing is just ridiculous, and ANYONE with half of a brain who's tried iRacing knows that its light years away of any of those GAMES.

  • @derbigpr500 Wait what?

    GT5 gameplay sucks so much that I sold it day 1. And it's because it's a "simulator".

    Holy crap,is iRacing HARDER than GT5?Fuck this shit dude!

  • @derbigpr500 Iracing is a game too man, chill out. Everything you are playing is arcade, true sim can be found from car markets within 1000 bucks, buy it, take it to drive and it's FAR more accurate than your precious Iracing, just sayin' :)

  • @ilikebumfluff

    Really? If you can go to a track for this money, sign me up sir. Car, tire, fuel, repairs, etc. If you can get these for a few $s...

  • First glance I had a hard time telling which was the real one.

  • should do some homework before judging, even official sites of real life tracks has this mentioned.

    And also, PD keeps players recruited for real racing teams via Gran Turismo world, I have never heard similar story from iRacing world. afterall, this, and GT is only a game, no matter what hardware it is made for, even my son can play iRacing with xbox controller so it isnt that hard, really, unlike putting a 6 year old boy driving a real racing car.... guess what would happen.

  • @Sampyla20plus iRacing does no support a controller. If you do try it, and many have, it's an abysmal failure.

    Discovery channel just had a show about Wyatt Gooden. He won a sponsored ride in the TDI cup from winning the cup in iRacing. The show is called "Rookies to Racers."

    As for real drivers, there is a LONG list of oval and road racers from real teams that use iracing. Look them up on the stats and you see what they have run the last few weeks.

  • what comes to with this comparison between this and GT5, iRacing might have well modelled cars and tracks, but actual driving is similar with GT5, as you guys may call it the "best" simulator ever, it still doesnt have even 10% of cars that can be found on GT5, which all works like independent vehicle, come back to yell how GT5 sucks when iRacing can match the work been made with GT5, and nevertheless, tracks in GT5 has been made with laser scanning also, if anyone disagree with this fact...

  • @Sampyla20plus Not at the same resolution as iRacing, FACT. iRacing is at 2mm resolution of the track surface scans. It is also ever evolving. Every 13 weeks a new build comes out adding more to it and tweaking the model to make it more real. GT is every half a decade plus. I have them both. GT is fine but is not anywhere near the realism as a whole. It just isn't. Besides, you always here things like "it's no iRacing" when compared on various race sim sites and forums.

  • @cbremer83 I might know what do you mean, in GT5 there is huge lack with online gaming because there isnt proper rules, like Flags used, if only they'd add proper racing rules to GT5, it would be alot better what comes to racing against human players. But for physics, Iracing and GT5 doesnt have much difference, ofcourse as Iracing has tens of cars, and alot more tuning options available for each car it makes the difference, but overall physics are the same, made via PC in both, not taken fromRL

  • @Sampyla20plus Actually they are very different. Especially with the new tire model. They go about the physics in a totally different way and you can feel in. For me, GT does not feel like a car the way iRacing does. iRacing is much closer to what it's like in a real car on the track, minus the seat of your pants part. Also GT has horrid race tire simulation. A real race tire goes from grip to ice like in an instant if you over drive them. In GT, race tires are very forgiving.

  • @cbremer83 Might be, I usually use comfort tires on GT5 because I have never driven a car with slicks tires in RL, and comfort tires are similar to those people use on every day cars at Traffic.

    Bu to be honest, if a game cannot give you proper "ass feedback" it'll always be only a game, no matter what wheel I'm using, my living room wont turn into a car so I cant actually feel nothing but shaking in my hands via wheel's feedback, so it's not accurate compared to real life.

  • @Sampyla20plus Granted the lack of a butt in the seat hurts the feel a lot. But, a good wheel with really good FFB and good use of it sim side helps a lot. Until you can jack your brain right into the sim, the lack of feel will always be an issue.

  • @Sampyla20plus Look up "buttkicker". Comes with amplifier and range knobs for low to high Hz where you can "catch" what you want to feel from the game.

  • which is the actual real one!

  • the only reason why you know iracing is on the left is because of the logo lol if it wasn't there this game looks very realistic

  • @shadowtsunami no not really. the driver's helmet in iracing does not move at all under high g turns, the driver in iracing seem to control the car telepathically without moving the steering wheel and the graphics in iracing looks too smooth(IMO). (e.g. look @ the tires)

  • @suntannedmedal true but it is a good representation

  • @shadowtsunami yeeah I guess, but Gt5 and Forza 3, just sayin, has a better representation

  • GT5 is a good game but I always go back to iRacing .... gt5 just isn't very competitive and most people just fool around during the races - if gt5 had any kind of a safety or ranking system maybe it would be a different story ...but as it stands the races in GT5 just don't stack up to iRacing

  • @Wedge4Life; @mike621973

    So true... it applies so very much to me!! iRacing is just so good!! :D

  • @Wedge4Life

    I agree with you guys. Racing games on the consoles just can't compare. Graphically they're superb--but iracing surplants the "look" of the sim to what it really means to "drive" a race car. GT5, Forza series are trying but iracing is truly for race enthusiasts. Period.

  • same driver?

  • @ all GT5 player. GT5 isnt a simulator! period

  • @ilikebumfluff true. but id wanna have a badass car to take out there. wouldnt wanna take a corolla or somethin lol

  • @ilikebumfluff that wasnt the point but who cares why they dont go. i spend my money on everything but goin to a track. the game simulates what it would be like to actually race and maybe they like it better than just watching it.

  • @ilikebumfluff

    Lucas Ordonez is going to be in the 24 hours of Le Mans.

    But iRacing is still the best simulator.

  • It's true. Awesome sim. Everything else pales.

  • GPL

  • @ilikebumfluff speed channel does, otherwise they wouldn't mention it.

    NASCAR does, otherwise they wouldn't sanction an iRacing NASCAR series crowning the first winner (Richard Towler) an official NASCAR champion, giving him a championship ring and trophy, honouring him in front of 100,000+ fans at a NASCAR race.

    INDY obviously cares, since next month they are starting an official iRacing series, and Grand Am racing already has.

    Does GT5 have anything like that?

  • @SuperColossal33 rofl dude.. im a completely mutual party. i actually dislike both, but i dislike gt5 cause i dont liek car games in general. i dislike iracing cause its the biggest piece of shit ive ever played.. it feels like im playing something ur downsyndrome son created. eat shit and die in a fire if u think this game is good.. get ur retarded self bound and thrown in the ocean, and make sure a bus hits u first. or is ur ass cancer from getting molested by ur retarded dad gonna get u first

  • @dannyboy1606 I'll translate for this retard.

    "I played iRacing and got my ass kicked so it sucks."

    You're just mad it's so realistic you suck at it.

  • @dannyboy1606 wow well first your comebacks are retarded so work on it, second, ive never played iracing but top gear magazine recently took the best guy on iracing, who by the way had never been to a track in his life, and stuck him in like a mini grand prix car. after a few laps his times were seconds aways from what a pro would have ran. so dont talk anymore shit about something you know nothing about.

  • @ilikebumfluff yeah, nobody watches the speed channel....

  • @ilikebumfluff watch?v=b_JtSroOZcw

  • @ilikebumfluff I didnt say Indi was too smooth.

    You can watch an Indianapolis video from 50 years ago, 5 years ago or last year, there was never a white wall extending T1-2 beyond pit road.

    It's obvious just by watching a real NASCAR race and a GT5 race at Daytona that GT5 is way too smooth.

  • @ilikebumfluff Jimmy Johnson used iRacing to prepare for a Grand Am Rolex race last year, you can see a Faulken BMW Driver on the ISR Sema special saying he uses iRacing, there are countless iRacing 5 min demo's and exhibitions plus drivers saying they use iRacing for training.

    iRacing booths are actually set up at Grand Am races for practice when time is limited.

    Hundreds of pro drivers actively use it, Will Power, Scott Speed, as well over a dozen IZOD Indy drivers have a league they run....

  • @ilikebumfluff you've also never even mentioned that you've tried iRacing before. I have told you I play GT5 at work (I work for Logitech), iRacing is clearly more realistic, but GT5 is a great GAME. 99% of the people who have actively played both will tell you the same.

  • @ilikebumfluff you're also not very smart.

    You can see on Indianapolis that GT5 has white walls extending beyond pit road around turns 1-2 that have never existed in real life, you can easily search up a NASCAR video of Daytona, a GT5 nascar video of Daytona and an iRacing video of Daytona that GT5 track is about 5000% smoother than the real life/iRacing version, yet you still claim that GT5 laser scans their tracks to the same degree as iRacing.

  • @ilikebumfluff Hamilton accomplished more at his age than Weber did at the same age.

    Red Bulls actual simulator uses rFactor Pro, their PR simulator is a GT5 sponsored one, and what do you mean by paying anything? The drivers in iRacing use it for fun, just 2 nights ago Dale Jr hosted a MX-5 at Spa race, today Will Power was racing Street stocks at Charlotte mini oval.

    Find me examples where pro drivers say they are using GT5 as a training tool.

  • @ilikebumfluff a different camera lens doesnt put a mountain several hundred meters to the side.

    Can you prove that Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel have used GT5 for anything other than promotional reasons?

  • @ilikebumfluff There is a list of hundreds of pro drivers that are subscribed to iRacing, they range from Lewis Hamilton, to Dale Jr. and every series in between.

    I my self have been in sessions with Dale Jr, Bobby Labonte, Scott Speed, Will Power and a handful of other drivers in smaller series like Star Mazda, NASCAR Nationwide, etc...

    You keep posting that Nurburgring video, but it's evidence GT5 doesnt laser scan tracks. You can see the fucking mountain on Döttinger Höhe is out of place.

  • I was playing GT5 up until around 3 days ago when I decided to subscribe to Iracing for a month. Well... looks like I"ll be renewing this subscription. This sim is simply incredible, and even though I've only been playing around with the MX5 in Glenn Rock and Laguna Seca, I've seen enough to never want to look back.

    If you love racing sims and can afford the modestly inexpensive monthly fee..look no further. Others"sims" simply cannot compete to this.

  • @mike621973 congrats youve seen the light lol. Race 07 + expansionss is also awesome for offline play to, it also owns Grand turismo 5.

  • @mike621973 cheers, considering doing the same - I have a full home made cock pit to use too, so very keen to try this out

  • if you increase the fov it will be more like the real camera

  • The video description says NOTHING about GT5? What is your point? He is comparing iRacing to Real Life video footage.

  • I am not saying the physics are BAD in GT5, I am saying the most realistic racing simulator on the market today is iRacing. Compare Daytona in iRacing to Daytona in GT5 if you want to see what a laser scanned track looks and feels like.

    The description of this video has nothing to do with GT5 so I am not sure why you are even comparing. How can you compare when you haven't even tried iRacing? Talking to fanboy's is like talking to a doorknob.

  • @ilikebumfluff

    just a few corrections

    1. gt5 tracks were not made via laser scanning technology but via gps

    2. bernd schneider is an ambassador for mercedes amg, who were paid by polyphony to use their cars. As such schneider was indirectly paid to advertise gt5.

  • @ilikebumfluff No, the tracks in GT5 are NOT laser scanned. You have no idea what the laser scanning process even involves or how much it costs. iRacing has no big name users? Have you even heard of Dale Earnhardt Jr.? Why dont you grow up, I have a feeling you have never even tried iRacing. GT5 appeals to the casual gamer, iRacing is a serious simulation that appeals to people who are trying to race clean and hard. GT5 is the real simulator is it? Then how do you explain the Redbull X1?

  • @ilikebumfluff Because the physics are poor. Setup options are dumbed down for 'gamers'. It's a game that claims to be a simulator. Yet it's just a half decent racing 'game'.

  • @ilikebumfluff Well then he is full of it. EVERY track in iRacing is laser scanned, accurate to 1/8th", unlike GT5's tracks which are just 3D models that are "sorta close". Every bump, crease in the road, and change in elevation is true to real life. iRacing is home to many real race car drivers. Have you ever raced with Bernd Schneider? Come to iRacing you you actually do get the chance to race with real drivers.

  • @ilikebumfluff What?

  • @ilikebumfluff Saying GT5 is a sim is like saying the movie Day of Thunder is a factual documentary. It may look like what happens in real life to the untrained eye, but anyone who knows anything about how a car behaves in real life knows that GT5 is not totally realistic. More realistic than Need Ford Speed yes, but nowhere near iRacing.

  • @ilikebumfluff same Gt5 FTW

  • @ilikebumfluff I just said it was!

  • need for speed is better

  • @SatanKreator that isn't even a sim

  • FYI - I `m playing LfS :-) There is a special offer for 75$ / year and thats fair. We SIM(!!)-Racers are happy over every good realistic try. Sim-Racing is a niche product, not mainstream. IR is atm the realistic and future-proof simulation, but the pricing model is unfavourable, but comprehensible. rFactor is only living cause of the community! Game itself is a bad joke - the (illegal) modding keeps it alive and you need GTR/Race to use the Mods.

  • @alexstiene

    Last sentence is a lie -this 2 games are needed only for few converted tracks and nothing more

  • so rfacotor has more of a choice and better racing than iracing does? Im just saying i dont get it when people try to compare a sim that is nothing close to another sim.

  • @ilikebumfluff Holy shit dude xD never noticed GT symbol at the nurburgring 24 hr on the windshields xD GT5 gonna be awesome ^-^

  • I have both Force 3 and iRacing and I have driven most car sim made the last 12 years. F3 has great graphics and it is a sim too. But you can not compare F3 car physics with iRacing. Yes F3 uses a very advanced physic engine but it is a tool box that creates cars based on a few basic parameters, front engine, rear, mid etc. Then they fine tuned each car in the setup parameters.

    iRacing builds every car from ground up with real data. So you can't say they are equal as F3 is just a mimic.....

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  • All you iRacing-hating fanboys of other "video games" can clown on iRacing all you want, but iRacing is the only Racing game I have ever heard of where many REAL race car drivers actually play, not just for fun but for practice. And BTW I have never even played iRacing in my life. I'm just pointing out a FACT.

  • GT5 will not be even close to this. This is the best Sim to date. GT5 will never come out and will not even be close to this good.

  • @fleshpistol You *can't* know that seeing as GT5 *******ISN'T OUT********

  • @fleshpistol haha.

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  • @ilikebumfluff might be better in terms of graphics and presentation, but the in important, GAMEPLAY, it loses to iRacing.

  • Seems like the real car is a lot more vibrating. Other then that very close.

  • @MisterGasMan its the camera that is shaking. Trust me, you feel every bump in iracing as the tracks are laser scanned

  • @musicduct

    yeah meanwhile i know how good iracing is, it's the best sim of them all. But i quit subscribtion because i don't have time enough to spend with it.

  • Rebuding my pc buying a nice race wheel and geting iraceing can't wait

  • GT5 will be better than this. who agrees?

  • @FIFA07Addicted only retards lol.

  • @iluffkfco4owesome there you go. I was actually expecting that answer lol. GT5 is a fake simulation.

  • Who won?

  • iRacing may have lazer mapped tracks but it has no heart or soul, feels very clinical, give me rfactor or the massively underapreciated netkar pro anyday.

  • @monkeyboy85 Rfactor is for people who cant hang with the big dogs.

  • @jamesyerger14 big dogs means peoples with too much money for waste? :P Why pay to play when here is similar sim that is free?

  • @jamesyerger14 Rfactor's for people who want massive choice and honest racing without being milked dry every time a new car or track comes out. I have become a fan of iRacing recently but with people like you 'hanging with the big dogs' puts me off quite alot, I prefer respect when I'm racing.

  • I wonder how many years until we can't tell the difference between games and reality. Anyway, cool to see the comparison, they look quite alot alike.

  • i think the one to the rigth is the sim XD (jkz)

  • Looks really similar

  • great looks exact the same

  • OMG which one is real which one is real I'm so confused.

  • if gran turismo isn't realistic enough then maybe you should try driving a real car :P you can split hairs if you want but iracing is shit

  • @brosius85 better than GT5

    iRacing is good. but expansive.

    Play rFactor.

  • @glockfan14 the new GT5 will be better

  • @CJames2578 just The graphics mate. The physix are good, but not a simulator!

  • @brosius85 It's pretty hard to afford a race car like you can drive in these. Also, they are used by professionals to train on. If GT5 had a real hardcore sim mode, it would be misunderstood by damned near everyone who doesn't get that they can't use their gamepad to race around a track in a high performance car. And all the details you get in a sim racer would confuse most people who can't figure out why their car gives out after 5 super hard laps.

  • @Makron5 you cannot feel what a car is doing without being in it. using wheel and pedals will tell you about 5% of what you need to know from the car. the 20ms. it takes to get from the game to your fingertips is all it takes to ruin the illusion. i realise gt5 dosent let your clutch overheat and relatve barometric pressure doesn't affect your engines hp, but gt5 is the king of recers because it is the perfect middle ground between having an awesome time and a beleivable portrayal of reality.

  • @brosius85 Even with that its the most real you'll be getting out of a game. Numerous honest to god top tier professional racers use this sim to train on and warm up to tracks. It's said to be quite effective in learning a track as well as warming up to a car. It cut down the warm up period of Dale Earnhardt from 30 to 15 minutes iirc when he does testing.

  • @brosius85 recers ? okay. how are we supposed to take someone seriously when they can't even spell?

  • The track mapping/topography is virtualy identical to its realife counterpart . . . stunning! I wish I could play iRacing, Im stuck with Forza3 which is aweful :(

  • @imtheduke so why dont you play iracing? It pays off. It makes you a better driver too. get logitech G5 / g7, a decent gaming computer and a cheap montly fee and you are off!

  • iRacing is undoubtably the best sim there is to date. Followed by Nascar 2003. Any sim that offers the people to build their own mods is never good because the pysics will never be near as good as something like iRacing. No matter how much i like rFactor, iRacing beats it by far.

  • I used to race in the Skip Barber Series. I miss it :-( I love this game but I have a MAC :-(

  • @sherifh Use bootcamp. I have a Mini and play rfactor and netkar pro without problems

  • iRacing , the best (;

  • @Wehen94  not really their whole methed ow subsciption is a joke

    get RFACTOR

  • they forgot to show how you can drift and slide a skip around corners much faster than you can drive it realistically.

  • I need it!

  • Wow, the hand movement is beautiful on the left screen

  • @Robbe1984 Hahaha

  • @Robbe1984

    LAWL

  • Forza 3 better than iracing?? wtf?? hahahha Iracing rlz

  • If you look at the fun factor, yes Forza 3 plus many other games own iRacing.

  • lol, you offensive little PC kids.

    'your the nit wit'

    It's you're, kiddo.

    'you have to use isr coz'

    when you become an adult, you'll see I'm right.

    'you just crazy and ignorant.'

    Sign, more broken English.

    Anyways, you get my point.

  • Right, Forza 3 is a more accurate racing simulator. Forza 3 with its lack of qualifying. Forza 3 with its unrealistic levels of grip. Forza 3 with its small grid size. Forza 3 with no licensing system. Forza 3 with a multiplayer full of wreckers and downs syndrome xbox kids. The multiplayer community is idiotic and there is no choice of wheel + gearbox for around £120 or below. Forza 3 tries to be a sim, but fails because at the same time because its trying to be a game.

    iRacing is a simulator.

  • @anessenator Lol, Down syndrome kids Hahaa. nice one :P

  • @anessenator couldnt agree with you more!

  • @anessenator forza 3 is fun though :]

  • @anessenator do u think gran turismo is a good simulator?

  • @anessenator just like GT5

  • Also, the difference between iRacing and the other games is that iRacing is in a constant state of development. It's a service more than it is a game. I'd rather get new cars/tracks than better graphics on any day. Having said that it's only a matter of time before iRacing conquers the graphics frontier and then this conversation will be moot.

  • @ad09am02 So 1000 cars, 70 tracks and fairly decent physics (Though not nearly up to the standard of some PC sims, incl. iRacing) in GT5 won't be good enough?

    iRacing is lacking way more than graphics. The graphics are fine in my opinion, it just lacks depth, with its very limited choice of vehicles etc. It can't really be called a game can it, which is why it has such a small fanbase.

  • I tried the latter GTR and rFactor demos and was not impressed. Might give this a shot.

  • Iracing is a PERFECT tool for offseason training..because the game dosent have so many european tracks yet i use rfactor to train european tracks mainly , but iracing if BETTER than any race sims i have tryed ...if any is in doubt then go look at homepage and see what other drivers from the real world say about this...

  • wow an eThug should I be scared or just think your a fucking idiot I think I'll pick the second one

  • PFF drive lines are not even the same how ppl can compare the only same thing on this vid is the sound I am sorry.

  • iRacing one looks floaty. You don't get the vibrations on the camera and the car like you do in te real one, but other than that it's almost exactly the same. I'm impressed.

  • the real needs some shaders!

  • lol

  • 5/5

    Racing 1 track with 1 particular car in this "game" is about as challenging and satisfying as 2 other full racing games combined. Fascinating!

    Maybe that's why my lap times are so bad???

  • iRacing is the best, no doubt, but not many people have that kind of money to burn.

  • Less than 12 per month? Let's see.... Smokers? People who drink? People who play WOW? People who have adult web site accounts? ect..... So pretty much everyone with a job.

  • Not many people in a downturned economy can afford a computer set up to play this game at its full potential. I know people who have stopped their XBL accounts because they can't afford it. Yes they have jobs, but I think having a roof with access to heat and water is more important than games/entertainment.

    You may be in a financially sound situation, but I can guarantee you, not everyone is in the same boat as you.

  • your a professional fuck up.

  • Maybe I'm a student. Dip shit.

  • lmao your a fucking dumb ass its funny

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  • since when was gt5 out actually?.

  • No one said it was. But it wont be over 60 bucks.

  • You have obviously never used this service. Try having to purchase tracks and higher class vehicles. It's not cheap.

    Not to mention that you CANT KEEP what you pay for. I know people I race with that have burned over 1000 dollars on iRacing.

  • you dont know what a sim is rfactors a sim that takes a dump on forza even, and a pc that could run that at decent frames at 1080p wont cost more than 500 bucks that will piss on your xbox 360 toy and piece of shit 3, but your excuse is not everyone knows how to build one just because you dont doesnt mean everyone. just shut up dumb student as you call your self, your just a troll.

  • btw i think rfactor cost 30 bucks and you dont need a subscription, so just so your slow dumb fuck student ass dont mistake what im saying, and come at me with more fucking gay homo fag shit.

  • Your 2nd and 3rd comments are full of nerd rage. I'm loving it. Look at the video title real quick.. what does it say? iRacing. Hur dur. Not rFactor, not GTR, no other PC sim other than iRacing. iRacing feels fucking amazing, but it's still fucking expensive. None of what you said made a valid argument for yourself, all you did was rage throughout the whole thing.

  • Ok, do you have any idea how much this simulator is compared to gt5? Seriously? It's CHEAPEST service is over 100 dollars A YEAR. Compared to a one time payment of 60 dollars, so stfu. Since when was gt5 a sim,? Dont tell lies and try and make me look bad!.

  • I doubt GT5 lazer scan their cars and tracks, with over a 1000 cars at time of release, i doubt half of them are as accurate as possible. Same goes for the tracks. Lazer scanning tracks and cars is expensive, hence the price. iRacing is in a league of its own, and it is NOT targeting the same market 99.9% of the other sims are. It targets real racing drivers