@nasrazam i understand the ahlul-sunnah have a broad range of views regarding the visitation of shrines and their benefits. some sunni ulema deem it to kufar whereas others permit it, the fact is if the sunni's present should not have gotten upset and stormed out because all that took place was the natural expression of grief for our Imam Hossein (As) the grandson of the holy Prophet (SAW) . the shi3as did not do anything unislamic in the video if u would like proof i will br happy to provide it
firstly i would like to point out that harming your body is against Islamic teachings for our bodies are a gift from Allah (SWT) however in Islam actions are jugded by the intention of the person. When Shi3a Muslims hit themselves their intention isn't to harm their body which would be haraam but rather to express grief and love for Imam Hussein (who is Ahlul-byt and according to Quran we must love ahlul-bayt) . .......
in the same way when we fast our intention is to fast so we can pls Allah but the action of fasting may harm our bodies, but because this is not the intention of fsting..fasting is permitted and is a highly rewarded action. You may point out how is hitting yourself expressing grief/love..well you look anywhere in the world when something like a earthquake or shooting takes place you will see mourners hit themselves for example when the hindus violated the sanctity of
The first proof is from Quran. Surah adh-Dhaariyaat we read that Sara (as) struck her face when she was told that she would conceive a baby. Quran 51:29 "Then came forward his wife in grief, she smote her face and said (what! I) An old barren woman?"
More proof...Ma'arij al Nubuwwah, Chapter 1 page 248:
"Adam was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen".
Madarij al Nubuwah, page 221:"When life was breathed into the spirit of Adam he hit his hand on his head and cried. He made this tradition of beating one's head with one's hand and crying in times of trouble for his descendants."
More proof and evidence....Al Bidayah wa al Nihaya, Volume 7 page 371: Ibn Jareer narrates that when the killer intended to sever Uthman's head, the women began to scream and strike their faces. This included Uthman's wives Naila, Ummul Baneen and daughter".
More evidence....Kanz al Ummal Volume Six page 118:"The narrator said people had attributed the prohibition of elegies to Umar, but the fact is that when Khalid bin Waleed died the women of Banu Mugheer indulged in seven days of mourning. They reddened their chests, wailed, food was distributed and elegies were recited. Umar did not place any prohibition on this mourning".
More evidence....Al Bidaya wa al Nihaya, Volume 8 page 177 and Tareekh Kamil Volume 4 page 30 and Tareekh Tabari Volume 7 Page 324."When Sayyida Zaynab listened to the verses from her brother that indicated his death, she mourned by beating her face, tearing her clothes and losing her senses by falling to the ground"
More evdience and proof....Sahih Bukhari, Vol 9, Bk 92, No.446 Allah's Apostle came to him and Fatima the daughter of Allah's Apostle at their house at night and said, "Won't you pray?" 'Ali replied, "O Allah's Apostle! Our souls are in the Hands of Allah and when he wants us to get up, He makes us get up." When 'Ali said that to him, Allah's Apostle left without saying anything to him. While the Prophet was leaving, 'Ali heard him striking his thigh with his hand!!
dirty bastards.
mufloos 7 months ago
exactly
fayrouz2008 3 years ago
true
fayrouz2008 3 years ago
no sunnis got upset?
in fact sunnis dont believe in visiting graves (shrines) espceially shia one so why would they be there?
wasalam
seyyid110 3 years ago
@seyyid110 why sunni dont believe in visiting shrine...
it is not prohibited by Prophet... we in Malaysia can do it... =)
nasrazam 1 year ago
@nasrazam i understand the ahlul-sunnah have a broad range of views regarding the visitation of shrines and their benefits. some sunni ulema deem it to kufar whereas others permit it, the fact is if the sunni's present should not have gotten upset and stormed out because all that took place was the natural expression of grief for our Imam Hossein (As) the grandson of the holy Prophet (SAW) . the shi3as did not do anything unislamic in the video if u would like proof i will br happy to provide it
seyyid110 1 year ago
@seyyid110 my pleasure if you are not busy.... Salam
nasrazam 1 year ago
@nasrazam Asalamun Alaykum
firstly i would like to point out that harming your body is against Islamic teachings for our bodies are a gift from Allah (SWT) however in Islam actions are jugded by the intention of the person. When Shi3a Muslims hit themselves their intention isn't to harm their body which would be haraam but rather to express grief and love for Imam Hussein (who is Ahlul-byt and according to Quran we must love ahlul-bayt) . .......
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
in the same way when we fast our intention is to fast so we can pls Allah but the action of fasting may harm our bodies, but because this is not the intention of fsting..fasting is permitted and is a highly rewarded action. You may point out how is hitting yourself expressing grief/love..well you look anywhere in the world when something like a earthquake or shooting takes place you will see mourners hit themselves for example when the hindus violated the sanctity of
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
the sikh temple i saw an image of a women beating her chest. similirarly when the tsunami happened i saw mothers beating their heads in grief.
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
The first proof is from Quran. Surah adh-Dhaariyaat we read that Sara (as) struck her face when she was told that she would conceive a baby. Quran 51:29 "Then came forward his wife in grief, she smote her face and said (what! I) An old barren woman?"
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
More proof...Ma'arij al Nubuwwah, Chapter 1 page 248:
"Adam was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen".
Madarij al Nubuwah, page 221:"When life was breathed into the spirit of Adam he hit his hand on his head and cried. He made this tradition of beating one's head with one's hand and crying in times of trouble for his descendants."
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
More proof and evidence....Al Bidayah wa al Nihaya, Volume 7 page 371: Ibn Jareer narrates that when the killer intended to sever Uthman's head, the women began to scream and strike their faces. This included Uthman's wives Naila, Ummul Baneen and daughter".
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
More evidence....Kanz al Ummal Volume Six page 118:"The narrator said people had attributed the prohibition of elegies to Umar, but the fact is that when Khalid bin Waleed died the women of Banu Mugheer indulged in seven days of mourning. They reddened their chests, wailed, food was distributed and elegies were recited. Umar did not place any prohibition on this mourning".
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
More evidence....Al Bidaya wa al Nihaya, Volume 8 page 177 and Tareekh Kamil Volume 4 page 30 and Tareekh Tabari Volume 7 Page 324."When Sayyida Zaynab listened to the verses from her brother that indicated his death, she mourned by beating her face, tearing her clothes and losing her senses by falling to the ground"
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
More evdience and proof....Sahih Bukhari, Vol 9, Bk 92, No.446 Allah's Apostle came to him and Fatima the daughter of Allah's Apostle at their house at night and said, "Won't you pray?" 'Ali replied, "O Allah's Apostle! Our souls are in the Hands of Allah and when he wants us to get up, He makes us get up." When 'Ali said that to him, Allah's Apostle left without saying anything to him. While the Prophet was leaving, 'Ali heard him striking his thigh with his hand!!
seyyid110 1 year ago
@nasrazam CONTINUED
ALL THE REFERENCES I HAVE CITED ARE SUNNI SOURCES SO YOU CANOT ARGUE THAT THEY ARE SHI3A SOURCES AND SO YOU REJECT THEM.
WASALAM
Sayed Kazemi
seyyid110 1 year ago
we dont hate shia
but we hate who is killing us
AND THE SHIA KILLS US!!!!!
Aous157 3 years ago
theres one islam ah la sunnah the right way the right path u shia scum
CHRONICFILES 3 years ago
we dont hate each other, some dumb sunni and shia people hate each other and start killing each other
SeyyedHamed 4 years ago
Why do sunnis and shias hate each other?
giorgio3333333 4 years ago