Out to lunch. Never heard this one before... Need to make more progress with Trane, Mingus, Sanders and rest to get truly inside and into this music. Ya know, what I love in Jazz mostly? Jazz is pure intelectual thing, U need to understand the shit, otherwise there's no feelings and pleasure - well, for me of course :) Greetings to all of You, Jazz freaks :)
Shellybellysf..shut the fuck up...morons survive they thrive. A Masterpiece is a Masterpiece..time has nothin to do with it! Thx for the post, more important to teach rather then making people wrong all the time
@KipperBlatsy People often say this but it in many respects is the opposite. Hip hop is looped music, and while the rapping can have an improvisational element, the music does not. With Jazz the music is never the same twice; it is being created in the moment by people intensely listening to one another, who have spent decades strenuously learning about music and training themselves to master an instrument. Hip hop (now) lack spontaneity, is violent, misogynistic + encourages stupidity.
@KipperBlatsy Can this be true? I mean... honest question here... please direct me to a YouTube video where I can SEE and HEAR these hip-hop musicians performing this EXTREMELY demanding music you speak of with virtuoso solo performances. Not being contentious, genuinely curious and hopeful. I just love great music... no matter the point of origin.
Just listen to any song off of Nas's "Ilmatic," or GZA's "Liquid Swords." The ease with which the meticulously thought out lyrics weave around the beats (which are also amazing and are indeed demanding to create) is uncanny.
A great album by a great artist.. I wish Coltrane and Dolphy had recorded more music together. What they played on the village vanguard recordings are unbelievable.
I would say that all forms of popular and non popular music have 'genius's within their medium.' classical jazz hip hop indie, you get to a certain level and thats as high as it gets, determining whose on that level is up to the listener, Bach, Miles, Dolphy, Beethoven, who cares when the musics playing, just live it and feel it. Its not a competition, and it shouldn't be.
Makes me wanna smoke a joint and go swimming in the hudson, or... makes me wanna go walking to church in the snow barefoot , or... makes me wanna climb up a vine covered wall in hollywood & slide down a long double helix slide into a rich person's garden of exotic smelling plants
Such a shame that Eric's life was cut short by his illness. Such a genius, he would have gone on to create much more fantastic music. And by all accounts he was a very sweet and generous man--what a loss.
@fr3lonbrun It's the association that is the issue than. Why would you associate "old" music with negative characteristics? Calling old music bad, just for the fact that it is old, is as pointless as calling old people bad... only because they are old.
@fr3lonbrun Haha all good man, I guess we were both on that defensive 'tude. I know Gucci Mane ain't the BEST the south has to bring, but I'm sayin that cause just because u can't fuck with some style of music doesnt mean it's bad. U heard Rick Ross's 'Maybach music III" ? It's some sick shit. I just wish people would listen to current stuff, so i always like to use stuff like Gucci or Waka flocka to piss off people (and I succeed tho that's a bit childish) haha. as for oldschool I'm an ODB fan!
@fr3lonbrun "Square-type dude feeling safe in front of that monitor ..." -- Squeeze these lemons homeslice... your exerting the same behavior. Your being equally as ignorant and naive. And wtf are you doing in Detriot? Did you loose a bet?
@fr3lonbrun See your issue seems to be that you assosiate "old folks music" and negative thoughts. IMO if Justin Beeper (just an umbrella artist) is considered "new" music, then I would be proud to listen to old folks music.
This IS old folks music...that's why it sounds good.
@fr3lonbrun Ur the one getting outta line. Ur typing twice as much as me without any argument. Were can we listen to YOUR music ? U talkin about Detroit, fine, you should know I'm friends with Mike Huckaby and worked on a remix for Amp Fiddler. You're accusin' me of name droppin' simplu cause you ain't got SHIT to drop. Let's leave it that, ur talkin too much shit. And posturin' with the "u would survive in the ghetto' shit on the internet is the single most ignorant thing ever.
@fr3lonbrun Bitch u never grew up on anything cause u still frontin' like u 14 years old. I played more Dolphy than u could possibly ever think of, my dad transcribed his solos on bass clarinet when I was a kid, and about real jazz I gigged with Knoel Scott, alto sax player from Sun Ra's Arkestra. Go ask Archie Shepp about how he thinks Coltrane nowadays would be a ghetto rapper. People said 40 years ago Dolphy wasn't music, I guess you would have been one of those. It's all music. It's all good
@SlikkTim And BTW, tryna put down somebody sayin' he's a fag AND pretending to be a died in the wool jazz fan is just IGNORANT. U realize Billy Strayhorn, Cecil Taylor or Gary Burton are/were gay ? I'm sick of y'all punk-ass self pretentious so-called 'jazz fans', you're the very reason why most people can't fuck with jazz shows nowadays cause they afraid to meet ridiculous dickheads like you.
@SlikkTim And just cause I feel in shape, I gotta let u know I work regularly with Al Green's sax player, who played with Stefon Harris and is endorsed by Cannonball saxophones too. And guess what ? He too digs the shit outta Rick Ross, Luda & the south sound cause he from miami, dig ? I'm sure he'll laugh as much me if you'd call him a 'scary suburban fag'. Thanks for the distraction man.
@SlikkTim How does a musician being gay have anything to do with anything?
"i'm sick of y'all punk-ass self pretentious so-called 'jazz fans' ......" Dude you need to learn of to talk. You don't need to go out of your way to type in really bad sounding accents. On the computer, we can all sound like we gots some brains.
@JimmyPage97 My good man, I'm absolutely sorry if you didn't understand that sometimes it can be very approriate (though thoroughly incorrect) to type exactly the way you would speak. And on the computer, we can all sound like we are ourselves. Sometimes I can sound just like John Cleese is talking to you, but I would only reserve that stupendous behaviour for haphazardous situations, aight ?
revel inthe dis-chordant and the things that should not be but are...
scatsmfc1 4 weeks ago
This is the album I'm taking with me to hell. Dolphy will scare the shit out of that punk-ass devil.
poocholanska 1 month ago
imo the most well articulated improvising ever captured on a studio recording.
buysometrysome 2 months ago
around 3:33 you will start moving your body
americaneyes1 5 months ago
Out to lunch. Never heard this one before... Need to make more progress with Trane, Mingus, Sanders and rest to get truly inside and into this music. Ya know, what I love in Jazz mostly? Jazz is pure intelectual thing, U need to understand the shit, otherwise there's no feelings and pleasure - well, for me of course :) Greetings to all of You, Jazz freaks :)
8art 6 months ago
Shellybellysf..shut the fuck up...morons survive they thrive. A Masterpiece is a Masterpiece..time has nothin to do with it! Thx for the post, more important to teach rather then making people wrong all the time
shellybellysf 7 months ago
Dazzling and one of my all time favorite works of art.Thanks
loveshackartandphoto 7 months ago
@KipperBlatsy People often say this but it in many respects is the opposite. Hip hop is looped music, and while the rapping can have an improvisational element, the music does not. With Jazz the music is never the same twice; it is being created in the moment by people intensely listening to one another, who have spent decades strenuously learning about music and training themselves to master an instrument. Hip hop (now) lack spontaneity, is violent, misogynistic + encourages stupidity.
flybynight420 8 months ago
Dolphy is a badass. Love his playing!
goowa69 8 months ago
After hearing this, I am thankful to Frank Zappa for his Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue!
TheTrh2130 10 months ago 2
@KipperBlatsy Can this be true? I mean... honest question here... please direct me to a YouTube video where I can SEE and HEAR these hip-hop musicians performing this EXTREMELY demanding music you speak of with virtuoso solo performances. Not being contentious, genuinely curious and hopeful. I just love great music... no matter the point of origin.
TheRealSlipperman 1 year ago 4
@TheRealSlipperman
Just listen to any song off of Nas's "Ilmatic," or GZA's "Liquid Swords." The ease with which the meticulously thought out lyrics weave around the beats (which are also amazing and are indeed demanding to create) is uncanny.
ANTIanitmetalclub 8 months ago
@TheRealSlipperman Try this out:
hxxp://youtube.com/watch?v=FcJCxe1VSLA
legarconblanc 4 months ago
This album has given Dolphy foreverness. Music doesn't get any better than this.
stavros741 1 year ago
You must like at least 2 compositions of this album, no matter what your style of music is...Enes
IxENESxI 1 year ago
loveand joy to eric
grwatanabe 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun I agree with everything you said, but Coltrane was himself as "out there" as absolutely anyone.
Listen to 'Interstellar Space' or 'Transitions'.
polymath7 1 year ago
A great album by a great artist.. I wish Coltrane and Dolphy had recorded more music together. What they played on the village vanguard recordings are unbelievable.
Jazzman758 1 year ago 2
I would say that all forms of popular and non popular music have 'genius's within their medium.' classical jazz hip hop indie, you get to a certain level and thats as high as it gets, determining whose on that level is up to the listener, Bach, Miles, Dolphy, Beethoven, who cares when the musics playing, just live it and feel it. Its not a competition, and it shouldn't be.
calico992 1 year ago 2
@fr3lonbrun oh yes
superkulmedkniv25 1 year ago
Makes me wanna smoke a joint and go swimming in the hudson, or... makes me wanna go walking to church in the snow barefoot , or... makes me wanna climb up a vine covered wall in hollywood & slide down a long double helix slide into a rich person's garden of exotic smelling plants
albionmoonlight1 1 year ago 3
Such a shame that Eric's life was cut short by his illness. Such a genius, he would have gone on to create much more fantastic music. And by all accounts he was a very sweet and generous man--what a loss.
aarfeld 1 year ago
This music makes you say: 'I'll treat you to lunch Eric'.
jmsbk12345 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun It's the association that is the issue than. Why would you associate "old" music with negative characteristics? Calling old music bad, just for the fact that it is old, is as pointless as calling old people bad... only because they are old.
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun Haha all good man, I guess we were both on that defensive 'tude. I know Gucci Mane ain't the BEST the south has to bring, but I'm sayin that cause just because u can't fuck with some style of music doesnt mean it's bad. U heard Rick Ross's 'Maybach music III" ? It's some sick shit. I just wish people would listen to current stuff, so i always like to use stuff like Gucci or Waka flocka to piss off people (and I succeed tho that's a bit childish) haha. as for oldschool I'm an ODB fan!
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun "Square-type dude feeling safe in front of that monitor ..." -- Squeeze these lemons homeslice... your exerting the same behavior. Your being equally as ignorant and naive. And wtf are you doing in Detriot? Did you loose a bet?
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun See your issue seems to be that you assosiate "old folks music" and negative thoughts. IMO if Justin Beeper (just an umbrella artist) is considered "new" music, then I would be proud to listen to old folks music.
This IS old folks music...that's why it sounds good.
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun Ur the one getting outta line. Ur typing twice as much as me without any argument. Were can we listen to YOUR music ? U talkin about Detroit, fine, you should know I'm friends with Mike Huckaby and worked on a remix for Amp Fiddler. You're accusin' me of name droppin' simplu cause you ain't got SHIT to drop. Let's leave it that, ur talkin too much shit. And posturin' with the "u would survive in the ghetto' shit on the internet is the single most ignorant thing ever.
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun Bitch u never grew up on anything cause u still frontin' like u 14 years old. I played more Dolphy than u could possibly ever think of, my dad transcribed his solos on bass clarinet when I was a kid, and about real jazz I gigged with Knoel Scott, alto sax player from Sun Ra's Arkestra. Go ask Archie Shepp about how he thinks Coltrane nowadays would be a ghetto rapper. People said 40 years ago Dolphy wasn't music, I guess you would have been one of those. It's all music. It's all good
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@SlikkTim And BTW, tryna put down somebody sayin' he's a fag AND pretending to be a died in the wool jazz fan is just IGNORANT. U realize Billy Strayhorn, Cecil Taylor or Gary Burton are/were gay ? I'm sick of y'all punk-ass self pretentious so-called 'jazz fans', you're the very reason why most people can't fuck with jazz shows nowadays cause they afraid to meet ridiculous dickheads like you.
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@SlikkTim And just cause I feel in shape, I gotta let u know I work regularly with Al Green's sax player, who played with Stefon Harris and is endorsed by Cannonball saxophones too. And guess what ? He too digs the shit outta Rick Ross, Luda & the south sound cause he from miami, dig ? I'm sure he'll laugh as much me if you'd call him a 'scary suburban fag'. Thanks for the distraction man.
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@SlikkTim How does a musician being gay have anything to do with anything?
"i'm sick of y'all punk-ass self pretentious so-called 'jazz fans' ......" Dude you need to learn of to talk. You don't need to go out of your way to type in really bad sounding accents. On the computer, we can all sound like we gots some brains.
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
@JimmyPage97 My good man, I'm absolutely sorry if you didn't understand that sometimes it can be very approriate (though thoroughly incorrect) to type exactly the way you would speak. And on the computer, we can all sound like we are ourselves. Sometimes I can sound just like John Cleese is talking to you, but I would only reserve that stupendous behaviour for haphazardous situations, aight ?
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@SlikkTim My good man, I haven't misunderstood anything.
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
@JimmyPage97 we cool then :-)
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@SlikkTim I didn't know we weren't
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun I love dolphy and love Gucci Mane. Get your head outta your ass
SlikkTim 1 year ago
@SlikkTim ha ha lol t'es partout où jvais :P
euh franchement des jeunes qu'écoutent Dolphy & Gucci Mane, doit pas y en avoir des masses!!! (mais tu l'as bien mouché qd même ;)
Fjord76 1 year ago
@fr3lonbrun How is this not old folks music?
JimmyPage97 1 year ago
time dissolves
rogozjin 1 year ago 2
Inspiring!
MrHanksWorld 1 year ago
Arguably the greatest album of all time. For hardcore Jazz fans at least.
jibsmokestack1 1 year ago 15
ty for posting this.
a marvelous chapter in history of jazz.
cheers
CharlieCheers 2 years ago