2of2 General question: Why even serve a God of a religion that enslaved your ancestors?[condones enslavement--the slave masters gave it to you and took away the thought of deity in you 1st then your ancestors]. Just not enough space to elaborate. Hope you can Reason it with me.
there are so many religious nuts who preach the bible and don't know anything outside of the bible. Why do men like these preach words plagerised straight from egyptian text. wake up black preachers you are leading ur people into a fake religion.
Dear friend, it's unfortunate that you swallowed the LIES that Christianity is copy-cat of ancient Egyptian gods such as Amen Ra. May I suggest that you study Rabbinical Hermeneutics and Kaballah which predates all of that. There you will find that all ancient Jewish writings point to YESHUA Messiah as the coming Savior and only true G-d. No offence intended. Just 30 years of seeking led to this unbiased truth.
You are unfortunate!!! and may you wake up and do more research!!!! I bet you think/believe Jezeus was WHITE....and would rather go to HELL if he wasn't....
Your assumption and faith is in the ability of humans to find the Truth. The philosophy of science dictates that there is no truth, only the most accurate theory for the time until it is disproved. This is where Faith comes in. The Bible teaches that GOD has confounded the wise by their own thinking. For some reason, we think that we can find the Truth although we are ridiculously flawed and depend on the research of flawed beings...
You are fortunate to have found this!!! Keep your 3rd eye open if you have one........... "ONLY a FOOL ducks when the TRUTH(FACTs) is THROWN"--Dr Malachi Z York, religious political prisoner. FREE DR YORK! And ALL political prisoners 2009!!!
To me, this just sounds like a lot of jealousy of Carlton Pearson and his second rise in popularity because he's preaching a truly CHRISTian message of love & hope, throwing away all of the man-made, dogmatic nonsense which has kept so many in self-loathing bondage.
The conservative church's time has passed.
it has done nothing but make people miserable & give others a false sense of status.
Pathetic.
Sounds exactly like the church before Jesus came along....lol.
King James version...just like the majority of Christians. Yes, I have studied the Bible since the age of 6. I grew up in a Pentecostal church. Having a relationship with Christ is the right thing to do. However, what religion itself does is not right. What will happen to someone if they do not get saved?
More people have died because of religious differences since the beginning of time. Religion itself has been detrimental to mankind because it separates people instead of bringing them together. The Bible is 66 different books compiled together by the Catholics in order to control people. It was used to keep order, bring hope, and bring in money to the church and state. Since that time, it has spawned off to hundreds of different denominations who all think they are the only true church...LOL.
That may be religion, but that is not Christianity, which is a relationship that has religious practices. If one learns how to study the Bible and one studies the patterns of GOD, then one can know GOD for herself or himself. But if one takes individual verses without proper context, content, or point of view, then you have denominational differences. The foundation is JESUS, the Chirst!
Christianity is a Religion! Where have you been? The version of the Bible that you read today is not the correct translation. It has been changed several times since the original books were written by man. Finally, when the Catholic church got a hold of the books they changed and reorganized them once again. Even since then it was changed several times. So the Bible you read is full of errors due to all these events. So your translation is all messed up.
Christianity is never defined by the Bible as a religion. However, it is defined as a relationship between GOD and HIS People. What Bible do you read? Do you read the Bible? Better yet, do you study the Bible? What is religion to you? Or maybe you practice Christianity as a religion, while I practice Christianity as a relationship. :-D
And people have been running away from the church and religion because of your message. They are tired of all you preachers and pastors using fear-mongering tactics to get people to join your church so you can take their money. People are so turned off by religion and people like you who interpret the Bible the way you want. Have you ever wondered why they are so many different religions in the world? It's because everybody has their own interpretations.
Ironically, I have never preached fear because the Bible declares perfect Love drives out all fear! If you actually listen to each piece in this sermon, hell was not even a central piece, but I did comment on poor theology, which does not note the patterns of GOD.
The patterns of God according to the Bible you follow is all over the place...you know this. Why, because man wrote the Bible and based it off of what he or the people of his time were experiencing at that specific time. As I'm sure you know, that the Bible is full of errors due to everything I talked about in the comment below.
I am sorry to hear that you believe in a god that is not smart enough, nor powerful enough to make that we receive what we need to live, HIS Unadulterated Word. I would not believe in that god either.
If you have time in your study of the Word of GOD, please explain 2 Timothy 3: 10 - 17 to me.
Explain why so MANY Jezeus/g_d believers are AGAINST ABORTIONs (I'm totally against Abortions etc and the g_d of the by BILL who supports it) but SUPPORT a g_d that ORDERs the SLAUGHTER of not ONLY Men or Women but BABIEs...LOOK it up and PROVE me RIGHT!! WAKE UP!!Get out of the GHOSTSPELL!!The Bible=The book 4 the Dead; Churches=Gravesites 4 the DEAD. NO ONE in the BIBLE is LIVING period. 2 think I am a Nubian and My brothers/sisters have forsaken our power4 WHITE SLAVE MASTERS'GHOST...
Sir, I can not answer your three questions because that would suggest that your list is exhaustive, which it is not. This is as far as you have thought about this matter.
However, the Truth is that JESUS died once, for all. HE does not have to die multiple times each time a person wants to be saved. However, although all have salvation available to them, not all will choose to receive it.
It's easy to blow off a difficult question with the retort, "You list isn't exhaustive." It's a pretty easy cop out. But I'll admit, perhaps I DID leave out something. #4. God doesn't want to AND CAN'T save all.
ANyone in their right mond would scoff at a fireman who simply enters a burning building and instead of pulling people out of the fire, simply gives them directions on how to get out. Jesus didn't come into the world to give directions on how to be saved, He came to SAVE the world. Paul said that we were DEAD in tresspasses and sins. Nobody that's dead can make ANY choices. God has to give us life. He has to pull us out of death and save us, not give us directions on how to save ourselves
I did not blow you off, but what I did notice was your attempt to trap me into your corner that you designed. I just speak what GOD Has Revealed to me to be the Truth... Is there anything else needed?
I'm sorry that you think I was trying to trap you. I understand that you want no part of the question, and I believe it's because you know that only one answer doesn't contradict the fact that God CANNOT fail and that NOTHING is too hard for Him(Which you know is scripture)and that He DOESN'T want anyone to perish. Thanks
Your perspective is void of relationship. Your viewpoint suggests that no relationship (on the part of the human) is necessary. It is relationship that requires a response. Throughout the Bible, the GOD Who Does not Change requires a proper relationship with HIM, so what happens when you have no relationship?
Here's a problem with your "all will not choose to receive salvation." Christendom refuses to accept the fact that salvation is not a matter of OUR choice, but it's GOD who chooses His elect. Jesus told the disciples, "You have not chosen me, I have chosen YOU." No one can just up and choose to be saved. Several scriptures attest to that. "NO man can come to me, except it were given unto him of my father." Jhn 6:65
Sir, it is easy to pick and choose Scripture(s) that "seem" to validate your point. However, from your viewpoint, please help me to understand Romans 1: 16, John 3: 16, and Romans 10: 9. Oh yeah, and all of Romans 5 would be good also. The Bible teaches that Faith in what GOD Has Done through JESUS Is a Must!
What many Christians fail to realize is that the SUM of God's word is true. Many people don't look at scripture as a WHOLE. I'm not here to break down every scripture that you have a problem associating with the salvation of all, but I'm glad you pointed out Romans 5. Verse 18 says, "By the offence of ONE(Adam)judgement came upon ALL to condemnation, EVEN SO by the RIGHTEOUSNESS of one(Jesus)THE FREE GIFT came upon ALL men to justification of life"
Faith IS a must, but I'll let you in on a little secret...that faith is NOT of ourselves. Eph 2:8 says "For by grace our you saved through faith, and THAT(And WHAT? FAITH! That FAITH!)is NOT of yourselves, it is the gift of God. We cannot muster our own faith. It has to be given to us. God gives every one a measure of faith(Rom 12:3)
Furthermore, all those scriptures that you have a problem with all coincide with the fact that EVERY knee shall bow, and EVERY tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father.(Rom 14:11;Phi 2:11). Some will do it in THIS life, and the rest will do it after judgement in the lake of fire. But EVERY ONE will be saved, if as by fire(1 Cor 3:15).
I do not plan to continue this conversation in this format. But your argument are not consistent with Who GOD really Is... I would elaborate, but ask and I will email more.
Lastly, you are denying the free will of man that GOD obviously gave to Adam. I can somehow in the back of my mind, without Faith it is impossible to please GOD and that people were declare because of "their" Faith! ...all of Hebrews 11.
So, if Adam had "free will", how do you interpret Romans 8:20? The creature was made subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of Him who subjected the same in hope." When does a humans "free will" kick in? Did Pharoah have "free will?" Was he able to "unharden" his heart when God hardened it? Was Peter with his "free will" able to avoid denying Jesus 3 times? Is our "free will" more powerful than GOD'S will?
Most Christians haven't a clue as to what "free will" is. They ignore scriptures like Daniel 4:35, Ephesians 1:11:Phi 2:13). All faith is given by God. We don't muster it up on our own, Paul said in Gal 2:20,"..the life I live in the flesh, I live by the faith OF the son of God.." GOD gives us the faith, it's not of our own. YOu don't really believe Eph 2:8 do you? Nope. Nice chatting with ya! ;)
For, if NOTHING is to hard for God, but He doesn't WANT to save all, then the bible lies when it says He wants ALL to be saved. If He DOES want all to be saved, yet He CAN'T save all, then the bible lies when it says nothing is too hard or impossible with God. What a peculiar pickle God put Himself in...or more accurately, that most CHRISTIANS put Him in
Two particular scriptures say that nothing is too hard or impossible with God.(Jer 32:17, Mt 19:26).Yet, when it comes to the salvation of all, people say that's impossible. God wills that all be saved(1 Tim 2:4), but He CAN'T save all, because man's "free will" won't allow it. So, the scriptures then lie. It IS too hard for God to save all. It IS impossible for God to save all. So then, God CAN fail at something. This is blasphemy to the core
God is willing that none perish, but that all come to repentance(2 Pet 3:9).He also wills that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth(1 Tim 2:4). So in both cases, God desires all to be saved. Two scriptures(Out of many)declare that God does ALL His desire-Isa 46:10, and Eph 1:11. So, my question is, if God does ALL His pleasure and desire, how is it that this one desire(The salvation of all)is excluded?
God doesn't "wait" in the same manner that humans "wait." How does a being who knows the end from the beginning have to "wait" for anything? This is what's known as an anthropormorphism, which is, according to Webster, "an interpretation of what is not human or personal in terms of human or personal characteristics." I can assure you that God isn't sittin in heaven tapping His fingers and looking at His watch. He's working ALL things after the counsel of His will.
...philosophy is not helpful here. We can agree that HE is not tapping HIS Foot (if HE Has Feet)... Anyways, then, what do you believe this verse means?
By the way, are you ever going to explain what is means for GOD to wait patiently or are you going to keep throwing more Scripture at me? What does 2 Peter 3: 9 really mean according to you?
Knowing that God knows the end from the beginning, and knowing that nothing takes God by surprise because as the scripture says, He works ALL things after the counsel of His own will(Eph 1:11), I know that this is not in any way comparable to a human waiting for a bus, or waiting for ANYTHING. This is Pater speaking in relative terms. God isn't slack regarding His promise, He's not wanting ANY to perish. But from OUR perspective, He's longsuffering. We don't see the end, but He KNOWS the end
Whats wrong with believing that everyone is inevitably saved by God's Grace? Whats the harm if it brings peace in your spirit. Is it neccessary to have fear of eternal damnation and a firey afterlife in order to appropraitely worship and know God. Is the nly way to acheive salvation by fearing God and the cosnequences he has laid forth? I am just wondering?
1) We preach te gospel to proclaim to the world that they are saved (reconciled) by Jesus, not to get them saved. If our job is to get them saved, then Jesus failed, right?
2) The 1st verse of Rev. uses the word "signified", meaning signs and symbols. It wasn't to be understood as literalism. It's as literal as Daniel and the man of many materials.
3)"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, Lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21. So Matthew 25 was referring to this Earth and expressly, most of Christs warnings concerned the Destreuction of the Temple and the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
You never answered my mail to your inbox, but that's ok. Anyway, what i meant here is that in Matthew 25 and most of Christs warnings referred to the Destruction of Jesrusalem and the temple. Remember, Israel wasn't a state again until the mid 1900s. Jesus was urging people to be saved from the Jewish Destruction that would take place.
...again, Preaching the Word of GOD has no point. What difference does it make whether we preach it or not then? And what is Romans 10: 9 - 10 speak of? What does the end of Matt. 25 mean? Help me please.
Telling the world that God is not mad and that they are fine with him is the salve to the world's wounds. That is the gospel, the good news. When people think that their father doesn't lov them and is never pleased, they act out in tumultuous ways. When they are informed that he loves them and nothing they could do can separate them from his love, neither heights, death, angels (the devil), etc., their hearts change. Hurt people, hurt people. Loved people, Love people
I appreciate your attempts to reconcile Scripture with what you believe, but for me, some things are not adding up. Loved people even hurt people. Also, I still do not understand the Purpose of Romans 10: 9 - 10 according to your theology. And what is meant at the end of Matt. 25? Help me with that, so I can understand.
Because you are preaching religion instead of God. There are verses that suggest that ALL will be saved. Why do you choose to give precedence to the verses that seem to suggest limited grace and eternal torment? How do you decide which are right? How do you understand I Timothy 4:10?
1 Timothy 4: 10 suggest that JESUS died for all; however, a gift is only yours if you receive it. How do we receive the gift of salvation, by Faith! You parents could put a gift under the Christmas tree for you, but if you never take it or open it, then you have not received it. ;-)
However, please explain to me how you interpret John 3: 16 - 18. Who is being condemned?
Now, be honest. I Timothy does not in any sense suggest that. It says the reason the writer labors and suffers reproach is because he puts his trust in the savior of all. He cannot be the especial savior of those who believe if he is not the "regular" Savior of the ALL previously stated. you know this. You seem to be pretty intelligent, so I know you get it. I think you refuse it.
I believe those that don't accept the Christ principle of love, light and logic are condemned...unto themselves. But this says nothing of a literal fiery Hell. Hell isn't mentioned. Besides, all God's fire in the Bible had an allegorical or metaphorical meaning. So it's confusing when Christians make hell literal fire. Research the Greek meanngs of fire and brimstone and you may see that the Great Lake of Fire is God Himself.
will have the anwers you are asking for. God has chosen through the foolishness of preaching to reach those who are destined to be saved from death (separation from 'life' and spiritual darkness) in this age. Simple. In our heart of hearts we all know that un-ending punishment is insanity.
He didn't torture people forever in Noah's day. Suffering and death are a part of the fall. I appreciate your prayers, but guess what? A belief in eternal torment does not = a saving knowledge of God. I know you're just trying to help and you believe the distorted translations and teachings, I understand. Did you check the site I mentioned? - blessings
I did not check the website. However, I did study the Bible and I came across a passage in 2 Peter 3 : 9. If everybody is saved, why is the Lord waiting patiently? What is this "hope" of those who believe in the Lord? Help me Sir!
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
P.S. Why is eternal punishment insanity if eternal reward is not? Do you believe in eternal reward, if so, why not the opposite (up & down, left & right, day & night?)
Also, please note 2 Timothy 4 : 3. Everybody wants to hear that they are saved no matter what they do, but nobody wants to believe that Hell is real. Which message are people itching to hear? Also, what do John 3 : 16 really mean to you?'
Actually many are comfortable with the fact that they are saved and most are eternally damned - note the mass exodus from Carlton's church! Most Christians have a carnal understanding of God's plan, that they actually save themselves by their own faith or by being wise enough to choose HIm or humble enough to repent etc. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, is not subject to the law of God - neither indeed can be...
That is the problem. It is considered "Carlton's 'church' " and the Gospel of Inclusion instead of the Gospel of JESUS, the Christ! Ephesians 2: 8 - 9 are the verses. We are saved by Grace, which came through JESUS, the Christ, through Faith. What happens to be your interpretation of these verses?
"God" of your Bi Baal even likes BBQ herb-ed seasoned lamb goat etc and cant seem to go w/o money in his account.
Sand9woman 7 months ago
2of2 General question: Why even serve a God of a religion that enslaved your ancestors?[condones enslavement--the slave masters gave it to you and took away the thought of deity in you 1st then your ancestors]. Just not enough space to elaborate. Hope you can Reason it with me.
Sand9woman 7 months ago
REASUN. No one named God GOD god in your Bible. People do and dont make the distinctions.
Sand9woman 7 months ago
nlknkl
Sand9woman 7 months ago
there are so many religious nuts who preach the bible and don't know anything outside of the bible. Why do men like these preach words plagerised straight from egyptian text. wake up black preachers you are leading ur people into a fake religion.
lorcaliph514 3 years ago
Dear friend, it's unfortunate that you swallowed the LIES that Christianity is copy-cat of ancient Egyptian gods such as Amen Ra. May I suggest that you study Rabbinical Hermeneutics and Kaballah which predates all of that. There you will find that all ancient Jewish writings point to YESHUA Messiah as the coming Savior and only true G-d. No offence intended. Just 30 years of seeking led to this unbiased truth.
radicalgrace 3 years ago
You are unfortunate!!! and may you wake up and do more research!!!! I bet you think/believe Jezeus was WHITE....and would rather go to HELL if he wasn't....
Sand9woman 3 years ago
I am not as interested in what color people believe JESUS was / is. For GOD made no distinction of race. That is a human thing.
j2415ministries 3 years ago
Your assumption and faith is in the ability of humans to find the Truth. The philosophy of science dictates that there is no truth, only the most accurate theory for the time until it is disproved. This is where Faith comes in. The Bible teaches that GOD has confounded the wise by their own thinking. For some reason, we think that we can find the Truth although we are ridiculously flawed and depend on the research of flawed beings...
j2415ministries 3 years ago
You are fortunate to have found this!!! Keep your 3rd eye open if you have one........... "ONLY a FOOL ducks when the TRUTH(FACTs) is THROWN"--Dr Malachi Z York, religious political prisoner. FREE DR YORK! And ALL political prisoners 2009!!!
Sand9woman 3 years ago
The third eye? Quite demonic in nature. Interesting...
j2415ministries 3 years ago
If GOD was the first to exist, then did not the Egyptians take from HIM?
j2415ministries 3 years ago
AMEN!!! I'm with all of your comments. The shift of the church as we know is is changing and everybody just ain't ready!!!
Church has become a method of control through religious dogmas and not spiritual enhancement.
islandluva 3 years ago
To me, this just sounds like a lot of jealousy of Carlton Pearson and his second rise in popularity because he's preaching a truly CHRISTian message of love & hope, throwing away all of the man-made, dogmatic nonsense which has kept so many in self-loathing bondage.
The conservative church's time has passed.
it has done nothing but make people miserable & give others a false sense of status.
Pathetic.
Sounds exactly like the church before Jesus came along....lol.
StephanAOTTO1 3 years ago
King James version...just like the majority of Christians. Yes, I have studied the Bible since the age of 6. I grew up in a Pentecostal church. Having a relationship with Christ is the right thing to do. However, what religion itself does is not right. What will happen to someone if they do not get saved?
dfwtexxaas 3 years ago
More people have died because of religious differences since the beginning of time. Religion itself has been detrimental to mankind because it separates people instead of bringing them together. The Bible is 66 different books compiled together by the Catholics in order to control people. It was used to keep order, bring hope, and bring in money to the church and state. Since that time, it has spawned off to hundreds of different denominations who all think they are the only true church...LOL.
dfwtexxaas 3 years ago
That may be religion, but that is not Christianity, which is a relationship that has religious practices. If one learns how to study the Bible and one studies the patterns of GOD, then one can know GOD for herself or himself. But if one takes individual verses without proper context, content, or point of view, then you have denominational differences. The foundation is JESUS, the Chirst!
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 3 years ago
Christianity is a Religion! Where have you been? The version of the Bible that you read today is not the correct translation. It has been changed several times since the original books were written by man. Finally, when the Catholic church got a hold of the books they changed and reorganized them once again. Even since then it was changed several times. So the Bible you read is full of errors due to all these events. So your translation is all messed up.
dfwtexxaas 3 years ago
Christianity is never defined by the Bible as a religion. However, it is defined as a relationship between GOD and HIS People. What Bible do you read? Do you read the Bible? Better yet, do you study the Bible? What is religion to you? Or maybe you practice Christianity as a religion, while I practice Christianity as a relationship. :-D
j2415ministries 3 years ago
And people have been running away from the church and religion because of your message. They are tired of all you preachers and pastors using fear-mongering tactics to get people to join your church so you can take their money. People are so turned off by religion and people like you who interpret the Bible the way you want. Have you ever wondered why they are so many different religions in the world? It's because everybody has their own interpretations.
dfwtexxaas 3 years ago
Ironically, I have never preached fear because the Bible declares perfect Love drives out all fear! If you actually listen to each piece in this sermon, hell was not even a central piece, but I did comment on poor theology, which does not note the patterns of GOD.
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 3 years ago
The patterns of God according to the Bible you follow is all over the place...you know this. Why, because man wrote the Bible and based it off of what he or the people of his time were experiencing at that specific time. As I'm sure you know, that the Bible is full of errors due to everything I talked about in the comment below.
dfwtexxaas 3 years ago
I am sorry to hear that you believe in a god that is not smart enough, nor powerful enough to make that we receive what we need to live, HIS Unadulterated Word. I would not believe in that god either.
If you have time in your study of the Word of GOD, please explain 2 Timothy 3: 10 - 17 to me.
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 3 years ago
Explain why so MANY Jezeus/g_d believers are AGAINST ABORTIONs (I'm totally against Abortions etc and the g_d of the by BILL who supports it) but SUPPORT a g_d that ORDERs the SLAUGHTER of not ONLY Men or Women but BABIEs...LOOK it up and PROVE me RIGHT!! WAKE UP!!Get out of the GHOSTSPELL!!The Bible=The book 4 the Dead; Churches=Gravesites 4 the DEAD. NO ONE in the BIBLE is LIVING period. 2 think I am a Nubian and My brothers/sisters have forsaken our power4 WHITE SLAVE MASTERS'GHOST...
Sand9woman 3 years ago
Ummm, slow down on the emotion. State your case plainly and then I will be able to respond. What you have written makes no sense.
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-)
j2415ministries 3 years ago
Man you got the wrong revelation of scripture. God need to truly open your eyes.
jroc0123 4 years ago
Please help me to understand the revelation that you have that I do not.
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 3 years ago
So please, could someone answer this: Is it # 1, #2, or #3:
1.God WANTS to save all but CAN'T
2.God CAN save all, but doesn't WANT to
3.God WANTS to and CAN save all
I'm not looking for a soliliquy on free will, or a philosophy lesson, just an answer 1, or 2, or 3.
RUABerean 4 years ago
Sir, I can not answer your three questions because that would suggest that your list is exhaustive, which it is not. This is as far as you have thought about this matter.
However, the Truth is that JESUS died once, for all. HE does not have to die multiple times each time a person wants to be saved. However, although all have salvation available to them, not all will choose to receive it.
I pray that you meditate on this Truth!
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
It's easy to blow off a difficult question with the retort, "You list isn't exhaustive." It's a pretty easy cop out. But I'll admit, perhaps I DID leave out something. #4. God doesn't want to AND CAN'T save all.
There. That about covers it all.
RUABerean 4 years ago
ANyone in their right mond would scoff at a fireman who simply enters a burning building and instead of pulling people out of the fire, simply gives them directions on how to get out. Jesus didn't come into the world to give directions on how to be saved, He came to SAVE the world. Paul said that we were DEAD in tresspasses and sins. Nobody that's dead can make ANY choices. God has to give us life. He has to pull us out of death and save us, not give us directions on how to save ourselves
RUABerean 4 years ago
I did not blow you off, but what I did notice was your attempt to trap me into your corner that you designed. I just speak what GOD Has Revealed to me to be the Truth... Is there anything else needed?
j2415ministries 4 years ago
I'm sorry that you think I was trying to trap you. I understand that you want no part of the question, and I believe it's because you know that only one answer doesn't contradict the fact that God CANNOT fail and that NOTHING is too hard for Him(Which you know is scripture)and that He DOESN'T want anyone to perish. Thanks
RUABerean 4 years ago
Your perspective is void of relationship. Your viewpoint suggests that no relationship (on the part of the human) is necessary. It is relationship that requires a response. Throughout the Bible, the GOD Who Does not Change requires a proper relationship with HIM, so what happens when you have no relationship?
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Here's a problem with your "all will not choose to receive salvation." Christendom refuses to accept the fact that salvation is not a matter of OUR choice, but it's GOD who chooses His elect. Jesus told the disciples, "You have not chosen me, I have chosen YOU." No one can just up and choose to be saved. Several scriptures attest to that. "NO man can come to me, except it were given unto him of my father." Jhn 6:65
RUABerean 4 years ago
Sir, it is easy to pick and choose Scripture(s) that "seem" to validate your point. However, from your viewpoint, please help me to understand Romans 1: 16, John 3: 16, and Romans 10: 9. Oh yeah, and all of Romans 5 would be good also. The Bible teaches that Faith in what GOD Has Done through JESUS Is a Must!
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
What many Christians fail to realize is that the SUM of God's word is true. Many people don't look at scripture as a WHOLE. I'm not here to break down every scripture that you have a problem associating with the salvation of all, but I'm glad you pointed out Romans 5. Verse 18 says, "By the offence of ONE(Adam)judgement came upon ALL to condemnation, EVEN SO by the RIGHTEOUSNESS of one(Jesus)THE FREE GIFT came upon ALL men to justification of life"
RUABerean 4 years ago
Faith IS a must, but I'll let you in on a little secret...that faith is NOT of ourselves. Eph 2:8 says "For by grace our you saved through faith, and THAT(And WHAT? FAITH! That FAITH!)is NOT of yourselves, it is the gift of God. We cannot muster our own faith. It has to be given to us. God gives every one a measure of faith(Rom 12:3)
RUABerean 4 years ago
Actually, I have a question or two. What do you believe about hell? Who goes to hell? What are people saved from? How do people obtain salvation?
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Furthermore, all those scriptures that you have a problem with all coincide with the fact that EVERY knee shall bow, and EVERY tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father.(Rom 14:11;Phi 2:11). Some will do it in THIS life, and the rest will do it after judgement in the lake of fire. But EVERY ONE will be saved, if as by fire(1 Cor 3:15).
RUABerean 4 years ago
I do not plan to continue this conversation in this format. But your argument are not consistent with Who GOD really Is... I would elaborate, but ask and I will email more.
Lastly, you are denying the free will of man that GOD obviously gave to Adam. I can somehow in the back of my mind, without Faith it is impossible to please GOD and that people were declare because of "their" Faith! ...all of Hebrews 11.
j2415ministries 4 years ago
So, if Adam had "free will", how do you interpret Romans 8:20? The creature was made subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of Him who subjected the same in hope." When does a humans "free will" kick in? Did Pharoah have "free will?" Was he able to "unharden" his heart when God hardened it? Was Peter with his "free will" able to avoid denying Jesus 3 times? Is our "free will" more powerful than GOD'S will?
RUABerean 4 years ago
Most Christians haven't a clue as to what "free will" is. They ignore scriptures like Daniel 4:35, Ephesians 1:11:Phi 2:13). All faith is given by God. We don't muster it up on our own, Paul said in Gal 2:20,"..the life I live in the flesh, I live by the faith OF the son of God.." GOD gives us the faith, it's not of our own. YOu don't really believe Eph 2:8 do you? Nope. Nice chatting with ya! ;)
RUABerean 4 years ago
For, if NOTHING is to hard for God, but He doesn't WANT to save all, then the bible lies when it says He wants ALL to be saved. If He DOES want all to be saved, yet He CAN'T save all, then the bible lies when it says nothing is too hard or impossible with God. What a peculiar pickle God put Himself in...or more accurately, that most CHRISTIANS put Him in
RUABerean 4 years ago
Two particular scriptures say that nothing is too hard or impossible with God.(Jer 32:17, Mt 19:26).Yet, when it comes to the salvation of all, people say that's impossible. God wills that all be saved(1 Tim 2:4), but He CAN'T save all, because man's "free will" won't allow it. So, the scriptures then lie. It IS too hard for God to save all. It IS impossible for God to save all. So then, God CAN fail at something. This is blasphemy to the core
RUABerean 4 years ago
God is willing that none perish, but that all come to repentance(2 Pet 3:9).He also wills that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth(1 Tim 2:4). So in both cases, God desires all to be saved. Two scriptures(Out of many)declare that God does ALL His desire-Isa 46:10, and Eph 1:11. So, my question is, if God does ALL His pleasure and desire, how is it that this one desire(The salvation of all)is excluded?
RUABerean 4 years ago
Sir, this comment makes no sense to me. If you quote the complete Scripture, 2 Peter 3: 9, it suggests that GOD is waiting patiently.
But if everybody is saved and going to Heaven, what does GOD have to wait patiently for?
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
God doesn't "wait" in the same manner that humans "wait." How does a being who knows the end from the beginning have to "wait" for anything? This is what's known as an anthropormorphism, which is, according to Webster, "an interpretation of what is not human or personal in terms of human or personal characteristics." I can assure you that God isn't sittin in heaven tapping His fingers and looking at His watch. He's working ALL things after the counsel of His will.
RUABerean 4 years ago
...philosophy is not helpful here. We can agree that HE is not tapping HIS Foot (if HE Has Feet)... Anyways, then, what do you believe this verse means?
j2415ministries 4 years ago
By the way, are you ever going to explain what is means for GOD to wait patiently or are you going to keep throwing more Scripture at me? What does 2 Peter 3: 9 really mean according to you?
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Knowing that God knows the end from the beginning, and knowing that nothing takes God by surprise because as the scripture says, He works ALL things after the counsel of His own will(Eph 1:11), I know that this is not in any way comparable to a human waiting for a bus, or waiting for ANYTHING. This is Pater speaking in relative terms. God isn't slack regarding His promise, He's not wanting ANY to perish. But from OUR perspective, He's longsuffering. We don't see the end, but He KNOWS the end
RUABerean 4 years ago
Whats wrong with believing that everyone is inevitably saved by God's Grace? Whats the harm if it brings peace in your spirit. Is it neccessary to have fear of eternal damnation and a firey afterlife in order to appropraitely worship and know God. Is the nly way to acheive salvation by fearing God and the cosnequences he has laid forth? I am just wondering?
sijames17 4 years ago
Through Grace GOD Has Made salvation available to all people; however, not all people will receive this Free Gift.
Believing this is a problem because Scripture does not support you and this is not the Gospel Truth, so you deceive people if you teach this.
GOD does not want anybody to fear HIM, but to accept how much HE Loves them and what HE Has Done to show HIS Love! (1 John 4: 18)
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
1) We preach te gospel to proclaim to the world that they are saved (reconciled) by Jesus, not to get them saved. If our job is to get them saved, then Jesus failed, right?
2) The 1st verse of Rev. uses the word "signified", meaning signs and symbols. It wasn't to be understood as literalism. It's as literal as Daniel and the man of many materials.
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
3)"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, Lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:20-21. So Matthew 25 was referring to this Earth and expressly, most of Christs warnings concerned the Destreuction of the Temple and the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
Huh? Where did you get that connection? That comment does not make sense.
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-)
j2415ministries 4 years ago
You never answered my mail to your inbox, but that's ok. Anyway, what i meant here is that in Matthew 25 and most of Christs warnings referred to the Destruction of Jesrusalem and the temple. Remember, Israel wasn't a state again until the mid 1900s. Jesus was urging people to be saved from the Jewish Destruction that would take place.
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
...again, Preaching the Word of GOD has no point. What difference does it make whether we preach it or not then? And what is Romans 10: 9 - 10 speak of? What does the end of Matt. 25 mean? Help me please.
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Telling the world that God is not mad and that they are fine with him is the salve to the world's wounds. That is the gospel, the good news. When people think that their father doesn't lov them and is never pleased, they act out in tumultuous ways. When they are informed that he loves them and nothing they could do can separate them from his love, neither heights, death, angels (the devil), etc., their hearts change. Hurt people, hurt people. Loved people, Love people
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
I appreciate your attempts to reconcile Scripture with what you believe, but for me, some things are not adding up. Loved people even hurt people. Also, I still do not understand the Purpose of Romans 10: 9 - 10 according to your theology. And what is meant at the end of Matt. 25? Help me with that, so I can understand.
j2415ministries 4 years ago
I explained all this in the email. But you seem to not be open-minded to a different view, therefore I acquiesce to you sir. Good day!
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
Tell him to sit down....
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
Why would you like me to sit down?
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tettteh :-)
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Because you are preaching religion instead of God. There are verses that suggest that ALL will be saved. Why do you choose to give precedence to the verses that seem to suggest limited grace and eternal torment? How do you decide which are right? How do you understand I Timothy 4:10?
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
1 Timothy 4: 10 suggest that JESUS died for all; however, a gift is only yours if you receive it. How do we receive the gift of salvation, by Faith! You parents could put a gift under the Christmas tree for you, but if you never take it or open it, then you have not received it. ;-)
However, please explain to me how you interpret John 3: 16 - 18. Who is being condemned?
GOD Bless and With Love,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Now, be honest. I Timothy does not in any sense suggest that. It says the reason the writer labors and suffers reproach is because he puts his trust in the savior of all. He cannot be the especial savior of those who believe if he is not the "regular" Savior of the ALL previously stated. you know this. You seem to be pretty intelligent, so I know you get it. I think you refuse it.
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
I believe those that don't accept the Christ principle of love, light and logic are condemned...unto themselves. But this says nothing of a literal fiery Hell. Hell isn't mentioned. Besides, all God's fire in the Bible had an allegorical or metaphorical meaning. So it's confusing when Christians make hell literal fire. Research the Greek meanngs of fire and brimstone and you may see that the Great Lake of Fire is God Himself.
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
I prefer not to have the conversation on here, but your argument lacks some key points.
1) What is the purpose of preaching the Gospel?
2) What is the purpose of the Book of the Revelation to John?
3) What was being discussed at the end of Matt 25?
j2415ministries 4 years ago
This site: richardwaynegarganta . com/
will have the anwers you are asking for. God has chosen through the foolishness of preaching to reach those who are destined to be saved from death (separation from 'life' and spiritual darkness) in this age. Simple. In our heart of hearts we all know that un-ending punishment is insanity.
gladeasy 4 years ago
I am sorry to hear that you think that GOD'S Plan is insanity. Simply, I pray that your eyes are open to the truth soon than to late.
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-)
P.S. Is what GOD did in Noah's day foolishness too?
j2415ministries 4 years ago
He didn't torture people forever in Noah's day. Suffering and death are a part of the fall. I appreciate your prayers, but guess what? A belief in eternal torment does not = a saving knowledge of God. I know you're just trying to help and you believe the distorted translations and teachings, I understand. Did you check the site I mentioned? - blessings
gladeasy 4 years ago
I did not check the website. However, I did study the Bible and I came across a passage in 2 Peter 3 : 9. If everybody is saved, why is the Lord waiting patiently? What is this "hope" of those who believe in the Lord? Help me Sir!
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
P.S. Why is eternal punishment insanity if eternal reward is not? Do you believe in eternal reward, if so, why not the opposite (up & down, left & right, day & night?)
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Also, please note 2 Timothy 4 : 3. Everybody wants to hear that they are saved no matter what they do, but nobody wants to believe that Hell is real. Which message are people itching to hear? Also, what do John 3 : 16 really mean to you?'
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-D
j2415ministries 4 years ago
Actually many are comfortable with the fact that they are saved and most are eternally damned - note the mass exodus from Carlton's church! Most Christians have a carnal understanding of God's plan, that they actually save themselves by their own faith or by being wise enough to choose HIm or humble enough to repent etc. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, is not subject to the law of God - neither indeed can be...
gladeasy 4 years ago
That is the problem. It is considered "Carlton's 'church' " and the Gospel of Inclusion instead of the Gospel of JESUS, the Christ! Ephesians 2: 8 - 9 are the verses. We are saved by Grace, which came through JESUS, the Christ, through Faith. What happens to be your interpretation of these verses?
GOD Bless and Peace,
Nii-Adzei Tetteh :-)
j2415ministries 4 years ago