Matter will always exist therefore always has in one form or another. You melt ice, water, you evaporate water = oxygen blah blah blah.You can never take it out of existence. God on the other hand, if the sun explodes, it doesn't exist anymore because no one will be left to believe in it.
The expanse, space, the void, these things are forever, just like time's Progression forward. It's safe to assume that the universal big bang theory is close to correct. All of the matter, partials, atoms, and beyond were pulling towards each other until it created a mass, the friction of these particles spawned gas from all of the different metals due to the compression eventually it ignited and blasted apart. Earth was a piece of rock, close enough to a star to sweat, this created life
There is no safe answer, and we will never have the science to understand how the universe, time, matter came into existence. We must assume that it has always existed in some form or another. But the Sun is the reason we and every living, biological thing on this planet exist.
What this guys definition of nothing might be different then yours, how can you trust a reporter that just writes for a living to make a story partially true yet interesting. The only evidence is what your mind wants to belief, that is all
"Where did the universe come from" I don't know. That doesn't mean that there has to be a god. Even if you want to argue that there has to be a god who created it because something can't just come into existence by itself, then, to quote Carl Sagan: "If we wish to pursue this courageously, you must then have to ask the next question: Where did god come from?"
The laws of physics didn't exist before the universe was created, so it is quite possible for matter to be created from nothing at that point. Everything in our universe is the way it is, because of how it came to be.
i dont know what your beliefs are, but i will respect them and answer the question as best i can without insulting anyone, you've probably heard of the big bang theory, and thats what im going with because it explains that the universe was created from matter, that exploded and expanded greatly to create everything,
The universe has a beginning. That is the truth and has been proven. At the beginning of the universe, space, time, and matter came into existence. To put in terms of simple cause and effect: the effect is the creation of space, time, and matter. Every single effect must have a cause, so if the creation of space, time and matter was the effect, and there was no space, time, and matter before, the cause is something that exists outside of space, time, and matter.
The answer to this simple question is even simpler: Our minds are literally not large enough to comprehend the correct answer. The Scale of the Universe is LITERALLY beyond our comprehension.
So yeah...We don't know. Obviously.
A question for you, If God exists, who created God, did he just come out of nowhere? (you aren't allowed to refer to any BOOKS)
Geez! Remember the good old days when Christians would just argue that the world was 4000 years old, dinosaurs didn't exist, and man was the first creature on the planet. Now they're asking whether matter can come from nothing! I think our Christian folk are evolving. But alas, I still miss the good old days when they believed the sun revolved around the earth. Ahhh, good times!
It's not a simple question at all, but like all things we do not fully understand the default answer shouldn't be 'It must be God'. How about 'We're not really sure yet' There is nothing wrong with not knowing. Not so long ago people wouldn't ask this question; people were asking questions like "Does God control the weather?!''. As our understanding of the universe grows Gods role in it shrinks further and further until believers can only argue God is the first cause... and writes books.
Here's the problem with this question... we don't know. At this point in time we just haven't learned enough to find a legitimate answer. However this question is like saying, How was the Earth made? 3000 years ago no one would know. In this day and age we know it was gravity. God is used as a way to try to understand things we don't. We don't understand how the universe was made so we say god did it. So for now, I have no answer, but in a couple hundred years. I'm sure you'll get it.
"matter created itself from nothing, which is impossible" - you state this as if it is unfathomable to think this, but due to your obvious lack of scientific inquiry (most religious people lack any form of inquiry) you cannot start to imagine it could. Lawrence Krauss did, google his "A universe from nothing" lecture at ASU, you'll realise just because you cannot imagine something to be possible, doesn't mean it isn't.
Firstly this guy is a dick, secondly if u what to know my explanation i believe that the universe came from nothing. the existence of reality is a regressive paradox in a sense that u can go back an back and back hence god who created god on and on forever.Valid reasons for God not existing are,the facts of evolution, how old the universe is,how long it took to get to where we are know,how insignificant we rely are, diseases, cot death,cancer in children, bad things happening to good people etc.
First off, we can't be angry at something that doesn't exist. Secondly, why should there be a "why" at all. It just is. Your brain is pattern seeking and will attempt to find a reason for all of this in the best way that it can, however, does an arbitrary reason matter more than none at all? You have probably been indoctrinated into Christian theology in some way and your worldview is very narrow. It's not an insult, it's just psychology. Open your mind to physics and math. It will do you good
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All the matter come from the energy, the energy is don't created or destroy just tranform... in other type of energy or matter and the matter can be created from energy and destroded in energy.
Heck, you've yet to demonstrate any evidence there was a "before" the beginning. Why would there be? What about the universe precludes the start of time with near infinite energy density as an automatic boundary condition of spacetime when confined to 0 time. Clearly we need to do more research. Clearly none of this supports your mythology. Protip: Stating a dozen baseless fallacies will not give any more credibility to your primary baseless belief.
Why not a Flying Spaghetti Monster? I'm not being facetious here. I'm point you to the flaw in your argument for mythical fairy tales masquerading as science. Faith is about internalizing your existence in this universe. Religion is a political structure about scaring the crap out of people so you can control them by leveraging their faith in the most immoral ways.
Indulge me and Google the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Don't know, and "why" is a stupid question. We've not established ANY of those rather retarded statements you said. We've not ruled out matter always existing. Where's your evidence that it had not? 'A being' really? You've yet to explain your 'god' dude. How'd she get here? You've DEFINITELY not demonstrated there WAS nothing at any point. No evidence for that, much less demonstrating energy cannot come from it. And you don't explain where 'higher power' comes from either. Get educated.
well i can happily say i don't know but you cant say that it couldn't have always been their because it is possible that it was.sory you saying that is like saying their is no numbers because their is no beginning and before any smart-arse says it starts at 1 i wanna say im talking negative numbers you can not say their is a start to them. but as a atheist id like to say its nothing against any religion its just what i believe oh and science and religion have nothing to do with each other.
o and as for your comment about how something can't come from nothing, I liked how Matt said this: have we ever had a nothing to test that theory on? We didn't right? so you cannot make that claim that something can't come from nothing, you can say that based on the evidence we've gathered so far it is unlikely for something to come from nothing but due to the fact that this has never been tested, we cannot say for certain :)
@nothinisworthit Indeed. We can't even find nothing in small amounts. When we test in a "vacuum" we still see quantum foam, and the Casimir effect due to fluctuations in "nothingness" itself. The uncertainty principle really lays bare his assertions that you can't get something from 'nothing'.
sigh.. ok we are not mad at god... we are mad at religion and the harm it's caused, the ppl its killed and all the suffering and brainwashing it contributes to! We are angry that ppl allow children to be scared into believing this crap which has no evidence for and we are angry at how ppl are getting killed or shunned for not believing in this crap! We do not know the answer to ur question and even tho we do not know, it does not mean that religion is correct when they say a god did it.
@nothinisworthit though you are correct that a great number of people over hundreds of years have commited deplorable acts of violence in the name of God you neglect to address the fact that millions of people are helped every day by those who actually follow the actual teachings of those religions original teachers.
We could say thousand upon thousands have been killed by atheists because of their mind set.
Neither is a valid argument just a lame attempt to gain an upper hand.
@jrmaximus 'millions of people are helped every day by those who actually follow the actual teachings of those religions original teachers.' I'm sorry but in most cases, they are helping others in spite of their religion.
'They're so kind, you'd never even know they were religious' - Christopher Hitchens (papaphrased).
@Gogoplata205 You really have to look at it (kind of the way you are saying) on an individual by individual basis.
True they don't just help because they are 'religious'. They help because they care. Those who are religious and care are those who feel they are no better than anyone else.
Many atheists care and do great things to help others.
The good 'religious' believe God loves everyone and try to see everyone through that same perspective. Too bad they all aren't like that.
@jrmaximus 'Too bad they all aren't like that.' This is the crux of my issue with them (no pun intended). If they were all loving, friendly people, i'd just live and let live. But too many of them are not. But the good one created a moral shelter for them by saying we should not offend peoples beliefs. If religion has to go, it has to go for everyone, not just the bad ones. Although, if we could all just accpet what's true, based on testable evidence, that would be great aswell...
@jrmaximus One last thing - "Just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want.' works both ways" The difference is, the models that phyisicist put forward are testable. Nobody has so far put forward a mecanism by which a creator could perform the task of creating at will. It's totally unrelated to scientific study, and is therefore not a theory. Hence, non sequitor.
from 0:52-0:57 I do believe you contradicted your own beliefs. Were you trying to say what atheists believe? Or were you trying to logically deduce things for yourself? Either way what you're saying is fallacious from the subjected points of view. If one uses the logic that everything must come from something then therefore God must also come from something, yes?
It's so interesting that you use this rhetoric on your video, it makes us appreciate the honesty and dignity of atheism versus the infantile fantasies of religious people - when other people accept a story that was completely and obviously made up having to do with superbeing(s) and for which there is absolutely no factual base, and believers aren't rigorous enough to question the origin of those stories ....
@BoricuaChiTown I'm sure you are smart enough not to accept any arguments ,regarding the question of true reality, without digging deeply into it personally so you know all the possible thoughts concerning it and not just those of un-studied religious.
After all that would make people think you deliberately reassure yourself of your position by only debating those you know have weak arguements.
To reproduce. Its that simple. If that's not good enough for you then continue believing in a fairy tale that prevents you from living your life to the fullest, just so you can live forever in a boring ass place.
...If you do not understand the science behind such research, that is your problem. Do the research and you'll find that the natural world is far more beautiful than anything in the bible.
@Gogoplata205 the bible is a collection of writings over many years. Some writings claim to be history, some are poetry, some claim to be prophetic, others are simply letters written from one person to another (or group).
I'm not sure I understand your point. Is it not like saying the car I brought food home in isn't nurishing? The two are not comparable. They serve different purposes.
@jrmaximus I'm pretty sure you you do understand my point, you seem far to inteligent not to. The bible makes claims about reality that are unattractive when compared to reality as it is. Granted he stated that he wasn't asking from the point of view of a christian. But i just wanted to make a point. clearly he gets his facts from the bible as opposed to peer review papers. I was simply suggesting he try the latter and that if he did so he'd find the facts in then far more exciting.
@jrmaximus Also, i know what the bible is. But it's not being read as you described it except by inteligent people who realise that it's content is not to be taken as fact. It's too often being read as a true account of the history of our universe, which it clearly is not.
what is more logical that something has always existed in some form or another or going back in time everything came into existence at a specific point where absolutely nothing existed prior?
... Some time ago, people believed that rainbows where proof of god, as we could not explain how the colours 'knew' to line up as they did. We now know that it's simply the effect of light being refracted through droplets of water. My point is just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want. Recent research has found that the total energy of the universe is 0, which suggests that the universe could have infact come from nothing...
@Gogoplata205 Religion, to me, is mans attempts to explain a great many things, especially a creator.
A true examination of the question 'is there any merit to there being a creator?' does not need to be tied with religion. It comes down to the nature of what we call reality and if to be studied scientifically falls in the realm of theoretical physics.
"... just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want" works both ways.
@jrmaximus "just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want" works both ways.' in this case it does not. I'm aware that religions are failed sciences and that Deism is wholely separate. But i find the notion that Deism could fall into the realm of Theoretical physics disturbing as placing the most complicated thing that could possibly exist in the begining is a non sequitor.
@Gogoplata205 I don't hold to there being a 'beginning' of all things. We can view our being here had some sort of beginning but, whether a creative entity or the universe as a process existing outside of any influencing force, I don't believe either had a beginning.
Without knowing how I understand a 'creator' and reality I can see where you would not be able to connect said creator with theoretical physics. Religions paint a very different understanding.
@jrmaximus Well i have to agree to some extent. I prefer to simply think of the begining as the point at which our universe entered it's current state, as before this point, we can't imagine what the state of matter was. The only reason i have such a problem with the idea of a deity is that it's far to complicated to simply exist. I'd have less trouble accepting that a deity evolved from a simpler entity, but then what reason do we have to think thats the case...
@Gogoplata205 I believe we can get ourselves down a really deep rabbit hole if we want.
I guess I say I have no trouble with the idea of a creator because complex or not, with no actual beginning there is nothing to limit or control what it would be as opposed to the way our physical world is.
@jrmaximus If there is no begining, then no creator is necessary. Case and point. No reason to believe one exists.
I could just as well say (and i know this will sound like a joke, but i'm being serious) that the universe is just a tear drop of a crying giant. But we have no reason to believe that is the case.
I respect your inquisitiveness, but come on, that's gotta be THE question! of all time!
I personally feel that Atheists approach that question by trying to find an answer by all sorts of methods. testing, peer reviewing, theorising, speculating, delving into what we know and trying to find out more
most people who believe in a higher power simply say "God did it" and leave it at that. no progression, no deepening of our understanding, no searching.
... If you are going to say god always existed, then why not just say the universe always existed in some form. You see Inflation theory (the big bang) only explain how the universe came to be in it's current state of expantion. It does not suggest that before the 'big bang' the universe did not exist, but that it existed in a form that we have yet to be able to describe. Continued...
'Very simple question' You make it sound so trivial, when it so clearly is not. Firstly, 'Where did it come from'? is not really a valid question, as that would imply a 'where' exists outside of the universe from which it could come. It would make more sense to ask how it came to be. in which case the answer is i do not know (although we do have some ideas). But to imply that a god created it only involks the question how did god come to be? Continued...
At least you have your head on straight, my friend. I had a conversation with one of my creationist friends and after much useless debate we both decided we believed nothing created nothing for fun.
@c18gregjockca Insulting me will not make you right. And what's magic? A hipotesis by one of the most brilliant scientists of today? Who offers a logic explanation for this problem?
@JonasMaia94 i was BORN right, trash. but insulting you is just icing on the cake. YAY! anyways, anyone that violates thermodynamics is called a "CRACKPOT".
free will = believe what you will. according to the Bible (Genesis1) it states that God spoke saying "Let there be light". 2 things were first before the light. Darkness & God. so was God the Darkness or was it a companion. The 'Word' of God made light and the darkness didn't cease to exist but was divided from the light, thus night & day. so was this the Big Bang? why did God speak if nothing was there to hear the words except the darkness? Mystery is Darkness, it can't be studied but light can
Just because I cannot explain something to you does not instantly slam it down that you are correct. The human race has not advanced enough to understand every question out there, and just because we cannot answer it does not mean you're correct in your answer.
So personally, I don't know, but that doesn't mean you are right.
just bcuz we dont know were the universe came from it doesnt mean a guy in the clouds made it, and if god made earth who made god u did say matter cannot make its self.
just want to drop in again and say im not an atheist. im Methodist. and that for a better explanation of what most atheist and physicist believe you should entertain this video:
Dude...think about a better question. Just because I can't answer your question (which ISN'T simple at all) doesn't prove I'm wrong to be an atheist. I wonder how you might view the concept of television if we were living 200 years ago. Impossible? Of course it's impossible. Flight? Impossible right? Clearly not. I can't explain the origin of the universe. Doesn't mean God made it.
Nobody knows. what Agentfarnsworth said, check out the M-theory.
But seriously.. you don't know something, and you instantly think "God must have made us" instead of looking for an answer? What kind of way of life is this? When I was seven years old, I didn't know how a toaster worked.. So I wrecked one to see what was inside, then I still didn't know because the stuff inside didn't tell me very much. I lacked knowledge, thus became curious, instead of blaming it on some higher power.
I'm an atheist and the answer is I don't know. But cleverer people than me have thought about it and there are a number of theories. Check out Membrane (M-theory). It makes more sense than your god theory.
Believers think that, instead to investigate the truth and the processes of Nature, you can hang on magic and resolve everything with a god, an imaginary being that should explain all and explains nothing...
I'm not saying there isn't a God, I'm just saying there's no reason for YOUR God. He is idiotic, hypocritical, bloodthirsty and morally backward. However to the question of there actually being a God, I Don't know. But I'm not just going to listen to idiotic stories to ease my feeling of not knowing. I'm going to hope for science to eventually find the answer, that happening in my lifetime however is very unlikely.
you judge what is possible and what is not... matter has always existed is impossible you say, beings have always existed is impossible you say, so how can you say that the fact that god created the universe is possible?? answer me this dude
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.The universe didn't need a God to begin; it was quite capable of launching its existence on its own." - Stephen Hawking
@poolcool11roblox God has always existed to those who believe God has always existed. This guy is trying to specifically ask those who have the belief contrary to this what started the universe.Those who believe in God say faith is the reason they believe in him and that he's always been around. Atheists also have to have "faith" because they "believe" the world began by evolutionary means.They were not there to see this happen.They must except that it just did. THATS FAITH!
@poolcool11roblox It's also funny, because atheists have faith, but cannot empirically prove it exists, because atheists, by definition, only believe in the physical world. Faith is an idea, the idea of numbers is an idea, ect. Ideas do not exist in the "natural" realm.
Heres the answer i dont know, and JUST BECAUSE i dont know, i do not make up silly stories to make myself feel better about the fact that i dont know. At least be productive and think about it man...
I got a question for you. Where did "God" come from and why?
Both questions are to me impossible to answer so the rational choice is to say that god doesn't exist because right? Also it would be rational in that sentence to say that the universe doesn't exist right? However we could assume that the universe exists since we live in it right? otherwise there is no universe and this is all a fragment of my imagination right?
Science isn't entirely sure what happened 10^-36 s (that's 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds) after the big bang, but that doesn't mean you can fill in the gaps with your 'magic god' with no proof.
"A Universe from Nothing" by Laurence Krauss :3 Empty space is unstable. We don't know why it is, but as a fact energy (positive and negative) can spring into existence.
The total amount of energy and mass the universe is calculated to be a total of 0, so non of this would violate the laws of energy conservation.
And even if none knew how the universe was created, a simple "I don't know but i don't see why that would lead me to 'god did it'" answer should be enough.
@spark9of9creation Thats not the question I asked.. Science can NOT prove WHY??? WHY?? Why did life start.. Why did the universe "Begin".. when you can Answer that I will listen to you.. Until then I will listen to what God Tells me..
@sngncwby We don't know what happened before the big bang because the laws of physics were different then. Our understanding of physics comes from studying a nearly-flat space-time curvature. At the moment of the big bang, the curvature was infinite.
We don't know how the universe began. Neither do you. Just because we don't understand something doesn't mean it's logical to create a magical being to explain it.
@sngncwby where did god come from? and the big bang does explain WHY life began and where it came from, a long strange chain of events, from a meteor hitting earth creating the moon, to the temperature cooling down allowing water to settle and having a moon to create an atmosphere to create clouds the rest is historical science, read a book that isn't written by ignorant priest or from a time where they crucified people.
Religion is like ancient science, we used religion because we couldn't explain how every thing came from nothing, but now scientist know how the earth was created and how humans have evolved, as science advances religion slowly desolves because the things that religion explained is now being understood by science.... Now i may not know how the universe came to be but i belive science will some day discover how
@Chromiumism Well from what I've seen it truly doesn't answer this question at all. He's not talking about HOW it was formed after it came to be, he's asking when exactly the matter and laws of physics BEGAN, and because time is infinite, why would the universe start when it started??
How? Scientists currently think that it all began with the Big Bang because they are a lot of evidences towards it (we can't still mesure microwave signals originated from the big bang, etc.) and the theory of abiogenesis and also evolution (not a theory by the way) explain how organisms were made of non-organic material and became more complex over a long long long period of time. But the "Why?" i cant really say, well philosophicaly. It happened because it was favorable with the laws of nature
What's the difference? That God created the universe, but we don't know who created him or why. Or, that that the universe was created by something else, but we don't know how it was created.
I think you misunderstand what it means to be atheist. We're not mad at god. Just like we are not mad at unicorns or leprechauns. As to how and why the universe came to be, we dont have a definite answer. That isnt the same as saying a higher power mustve done it. Poseidon was once thought to create storms at sea. Human knowledge has since moved beyond that, and we now understand how storms and weather in general work. One day we may also know for sure how the universe came to be.
Why did my car just get a flat tire? Well its because it probably rolled over something sharp, or had a slow leak. For what purpose did it get a flat tire? Well thats a dumb question, there was no reason for it. just cause you can ask Why doesn't mean it has an answer.
Where did God come from, and why? How come God gets to be exempt from "nothing comes from nothing"?
Also, I don't dislike Christianity purely because of the actions of allegedly 'wrong' Christians...I also dislike it because its core text endorses (among other things) slavery and genocide. I also don't disbelieve it because I dislike it (otherwise I could disbelieve in the existence of, say, tax return forms, for which there is sadly clear evidence for).
Exp. something that keeps its ditance from another.. fire evaperates water then water re apears well away from the heat and in mid air attracting again in a cloud then drops back down to earth away from the sun. Three types of features have always been here since the very start. Solid, liquid and gas when all three of these meet they try to keep distance if they get forced they make alot of elements.
Heres a better question, if there is a god who created him?? You said a being couldnt always exist, right? You said matter couldnt always exist, right? If there is a God who created him?
@GodKillerAtheist no, asshole. the cosmic microwave background only proves the BIG BANG. it doesn't prove that "matter began". it didn't. thermodynamics doesn't give you the space to make that bullshit claim so shove a grenade between your legs and press the button, bitch. i want to see your bits dangling from tree tops when this day is done.
Nothing gets smaller than a sphere in its smallest size when that sphere gets trapped in a gravity field it then inplodes then explodes stretching the gravity field. (bit like an atom bomb) After hitting into eachother so hard they keep a good distance from eachother and attract things near by then life begins. Thats my theory -.O
how do i deal with this simple question?well, it`s quite easy you see...i just say ''I do not not know; there are several theories out there, more or less plausible (the big bang being the most widely accepted at this moment), but i don`t know for sure''.
And the truth is nobody knows.That`s why all those who claim to know for sure are deluded fairy worshiping dumbfucks.
Why does a dice sometimes roll a 6? Why does so many things happen completely at random? Why is it that you can not accept that the multiverse happened by nothing more than a coincidence?
You implicate, that everyone needs to have an answer to such questions. What a religious person chooses to do, is to invent something/someone/god he doesn't understand to explain something else he doesn't understand.
I just cut out the middle man and just don't understand some things. And I am quite certain, that its ok, because there are much smarter people than myself, who also don't understand it.
@nautsch Yes but how do you measure intelligence? Is it by how much you study equation that WE have invented to make sense of the universe? Everything is limited to our perception. God is not just used to explain something we dont know. Me personally I believe God is the force that creates life. There is no need for us to be conscious and self aware of our own universe and death, espcially if there was no importance to life (meaning it was a random event).
@nautsch Yes but how do you measure intelligence? Is it by how much you study equation that WE have invented to make sense of the universe? Everything is limited to our perception. God is not just used to explain something we dont know. Me personally I believe God is the force that creates life. There is no need for us to be conscious and self aware of our own universe and death, espcially if there was no importance to life (meaning it was a random event).
THE ANSWER to religion is simple: NO ONE knows and No one Ever knew about God, PERIOD!!! So to believe in God and issues associated with God, is perfectly fine, but to actually live your life based on that is foolish. There should be 1 religion and only 1 religion and that should be called the "open mind" religion. This religion would be defined by its followers believing that anything is possible, but not to live out their lives until something is proven without a doubt. Any followers?
That's the thing religious people don't get about religion. We as humans don't have to make up an answer for such a tough question if we don't know it. Atheists can simply admit we don't know. We are a group dedicated to figuring the world out in a humble manner, as opposed to foolishly being so assured of such a big question. It's simply a world view based on the evidence of the universe, rather than evidence of a book that has a habit of creating a unhealthy bias towards the universe.
atheism is not a religion. that means that atheism doesn't try to come up with explanations to things we don't know. that is what religion does. nobody should know for sure where the universe came from, but the only way to find out is through science, not theology.
It literally just came into existence. This is also when time began. If you add all of the energy in the universe (positive and negative energy), it adds up to 0. This means that no being was required to make the universe. Also since there was no time before the universe was created. This means there was no time for someone to create the universe. The why is irrelevant.
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Matter will always exist therefore always has in one form or another. You melt ice, water, you evaporate water = oxygen blah blah blah.You can never take it out of existence. God on the other hand, if the sun explodes, it doesn't exist anymore because no one will be left to believe in it.
Darkhartx1 9 minutes ago
The expanse, space, the void, these things are forever, just like time's Progression forward. It's safe to assume that the universal big bang theory is close to correct. All of the matter, partials, atoms, and beyond were pulling towards each other until it created a mass, the friction of these particles spawned gas from all of the different metals due to the compression eventually it ignited and blasted apart. Earth was a piece of rock, close enough to a star to sweat, this created life
Darkhartx1 20 minutes ago
There is no safe answer, and we will never have the science to understand how the universe, time, matter came into existence. We must assume that it has always existed in some form or another. But the Sun is the reason we and every living, biological thing on this planet exist.
Darkhartx1 18 minutes ago
energy created matter that we know of to day. Swedish scientist have created energy out of nothing. So there's your answer.
Link: ---> newscientist (.) com /article/mg21228392.700-light-pulled-out-of-empty-space.html
MrFreeAthiest 1 hour ago
What this guys definition of nothing might be different then yours, how can you trust a reporter that just writes for a living to make a story partially true yet interesting. The only evidence is what your mind wants to belief, that is all
AsLightFadesAway 31 minutes ago
One of the best lines I heard was...'Science hasn't explained everything, but that doesn't give you the right to make up shit to fill in the gaps'
vorgon2000 1 hour ago
Hey Christians. Where did God come from? And why?
seanstrnad 2 hours ago 2
@seanstrnad haha they have a book that explains all that.
haydenbn 30 minutes ago
@haydenbn You mean the one written by cave men trolls?
seanstrnad 29 minutes ago
"Where did the universe come from" I don't know. That doesn't mean that there has to be a god. Even if you want to argue that there has to be a god who created it because something can't just come into existence by itself, then, to quote Carl Sagan: "If we wish to pursue this courageously, you must then have to ask the next question: Where did god come from?"
"And why?" Now who said there has to be a 'why'?
zzyzx0788 2 hours ago
The entire dilemma "presented" falls flat on it's face when the quetioneer states that we atheists have said a that number of things are "impossible".
That is false.
We have said that all those things are UNPROVEN.
If you don't know the difference between "impossible" and "unproven"... then you have problems.
mkarnerfors 2 hours ago
How do you know anything is impossible? BAHZAM!
666lightbulb666 2 hours ago
the and why part seems dumb... THERE ARE NO REASONS FOR OUR EXISTENCE JUST REASON BEHIND OUR EXISTENCE!!!!!!
socialex 3 hours ago
The laws of physics didn't exist before the universe was created, so it is quite possible for matter to be created from nothing at that point. Everything in our universe is the way it is, because of how it came to be.
DerpingProductions 3 hours ago
explain this to me Christian - how was god created?
OmgitzM4J1K 3 hours ago 2
@OmgitzM4J1K The bible created god ;)
staklados 2 hours ago
i dont know what your beliefs are, but i will respect them and answer the question as best i can without insulting anyone, you've probably heard of the big bang theory, and thats what im going with because it explains that the universe was created from matter, that exploded and expanded greatly to create everything,
ztheothermikjonesz 3 hours ago
The universe has a beginning. That is the truth and has been proven. At the beginning of the universe, space, time, and matter came into existence. To put in terms of simple cause and effect: the effect is the creation of space, time, and matter. Every single effect must have a cause, so if the creation of space, time and matter was the effect, and there was no space, time, and matter before, the cause is something that exists outside of space, time, and matter.
TheJnb2014 4 hours ago
You are a retard
zachbowles7 4 hours ago
I AM GOD......and I endorse this video !!!
stormblast973 4 hours ago
The Big Bang. BOOM bitches! Problem solved, I'm gunna' go get some Taco Bell now.
UnknownImages 5 hours ago
We are not mad at god, we simply cant be mad at something we dont believe in
olimarfunk 5 hours ago
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Who said something can come out of nothing
FTD0Productions 5 hours ago
The answer to this simple question is even simpler: Our minds are literally not large enough to comprehend the correct answer. The Scale of the Universe is LITERALLY beyond our comprehension.
So yeah...We don't know. Obviously.
A question for you, If God exists, who created God, did he just come out of nowhere? (you aren't allowed to refer to any BOOKS)
Either way, no one can answer this question.
mcblack44 5 hours ago
Geez! Remember the good old days when Christians would just argue that the world was 4000 years old, dinosaurs didn't exist, and man was the first creature on the planet. Now they're asking whether matter can come from nothing! I think our Christian folk are evolving. But alas, I still miss the good old days when they believed the sun revolved around the earth. Ahhh, good times!
TheRobin3212 5 hours ago
holy crap you look just like my cousin
fuckyoukarmasmoker 5 hours ago
It's not a simple question at all, but like all things we do not fully understand the default answer shouldn't be 'It must be God'. How about 'We're not really sure yet' There is nothing wrong with not knowing. Not so long ago people wouldn't ask this question; people were asking questions like "Does God control the weather?!''. As our understanding of the universe grows Gods role in it shrinks further and further until believers can only argue God is the first cause... and writes books.
robbierolla 5 hours ago
where did god come from?
number1RabidPlatypus 5 hours ago
Here's the problem with this question... we don't know. At this point in time we just haven't learned enough to find a legitimate answer. However this question is like saying, How was the Earth made? 3000 years ago no one would know. In this day and age we know it was gravity. God is used as a way to try to understand things we don't. We don't understand how the universe was made so we say god did it. So for now, I have no answer, but in a couple hundred years. I'm sure you'll get it.
SBroproductions 5 hours ago 15
"matter created itself from nothing, which is impossible" - you state this as if it is unfathomable to think this, but due to your obvious lack of scientific inquiry (most religious people lack any form of inquiry) you cannot start to imagine it could. Lawrence Krauss did, google his "A universe from nothing" lecture at ASU, you'll realise just because you cannot imagine something to be possible, doesn't mean it isn't.
societyinflames 6 hours ago
Firstly this guy is a dick, secondly if u what to know my explanation i believe that the universe came from nothing. the existence of reality is a regressive paradox in a sense that u can go back an back and back hence god who created god on and on forever.Valid reasons for God not existing are,the facts of evolution, how old the universe is,how long it took to get to where we are know,how insignificant we rely are, diseases, cot death,cancer in children, bad things happening to good people etc.
crackcocaineisgood 6 hours ago
First off, we can't be angry at something that doesn't exist. Secondly, why should there be a "why" at all. It just is. Your brain is pattern seeking and will attempt to find a reason for all of this in the best way that it can, however, does an arbitrary reason matter more than none at all? You have probably been indoctrinated into Christian theology in some way and your worldview is very narrow. It's not an insult, it's just psychology. Open your mind to physics and math. It will do you good
thegreatestaudiobook 6 hours ago
Christians, if you vote for Mormon Mitt Romney your names will be turned over to the Mormon church and you and your family will be re-baptized as Mormons after your death. Stop the Mormon plot to re-define Christianity as Mormon, vote for Rick Santorum, Bible-believing Christian who will protect traditional marriage, end abortion and stop the Mormon takeover of America.
thetruth3574 6 hours ago
You are making this video because of your ignorance.
alianchild 6 hours ago
i have one very simple question. why are you gay?
Manacond 6 hours ago
All the matter come from the energy, the energy is don't created or destroy just tranform... in other type of energy or matter and the matter can be created from energy and destroded in energy.
EliosMoonElios 6 hours ago
haha you don't know either, and who the hell created your higher being? Did it always exist?
SkooledINC 7 hours ago
Fuckin' magnets. How do they work?
theeproctophile1 7 hours ago 13
@theeproctophile1 Haha.
Eltercero 6 hours ago
@theeproctophile1 if your quoting feynman ur my new friend?
crackcocaineisgood 6 hours ago
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TheHinun 7 hours ago
Heck, you've yet to demonstrate any evidence there was a "before" the beginning. Why would there be? What about the universe precludes the start of time with near infinite energy density as an automatic boundary condition of spacetime when confined to 0 time. Clearly we need to do more research. Clearly none of this supports your mythology. Protip: Stating a dozen baseless fallacies will not give any more credibility to your primary baseless belief.
Enginmaster 7 hours ago
Why not a Flying Spaghetti Monster? I'm not being facetious here. I'm point you to the flaw in your argument for mythical fairy tales masquerading as science. Faith is about internalizing your existence in this universe. Religion is a political structure about scaring the crap out of people so you can control them by leveraging their faith in the most immoral ways.
Indulge me and Google the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
millerjimd 7 hours ago
Don't know, and "why" is a stupid question. We've not established ANY of those rather retarded statements you said. We've not ruled out matter always existing. Where's your evidence that it had not? 'A being' really? You've yet to explain your 'god' dude. How'd she get here? You've DEFINITELY not demonstrated there WAS nothing at any point. No evidence for that, much less demonstrating energy cannot come from it. And you don't explain where 'higher power' comes from either. Get educated.
Enginmaster 7 hours ago
well i can happily say i don't know but you cant say that it couldn't have always been their because it is possible that it was.sory you saying that is like saying their is no numbers because their is no beginning and before any smart-arse says it starts at 1 i wanna say im talking negative numbers you can not say their is a start to them. but as a atheist id like to say its nothing against any religion its just what i believe oh and science and religion have nothing to do with each other.
jesuswasadancer 7 hours ago
thats not a simple question you fuck!
give us some time to think about the question, like a century would do :)
SuperRustyTrumbone 7 hours ago
o and as for your comment about how something can't come from nothing, I liked how Matt said this: have we ever had a nothing to test that theory on? We didn't right? so you cannot make that claim that something can't come from nothing, you can say that based on the evidence we've gathered so far it is unlikely for something to come from nothing but due to the fact that this has never been tested, we cannot say for certain :)
nothinisworthit 7 hours ago
@nothinisworthit Indeed. We can't even find nothing in small amounts. When we test in a "vacuum" we still see quantum foam, and the Casimir effect due to fluctuations in "nothingness" itself. The uncertainty principle really lays bare his assertions that you can't get something from 'nothing'.
Enginmaster 7 hours ago
sigh.. ok we are not mad at god... we are mad at religion and the harm it's caused, the ppl its killed and all the suffering and brainwashing it contributes to! We are angry that ppl allow children to be scared into believing this crap which has no evidence for and we are angry at how ppl are getting killed or shunned for not believing in this crap! We do not know the answer to ur question and even tho we do not know, it does not mean that religion is correct when they say a god did it.
nothinisworthit 7 hours ago
@nothinisworthit though you are correct that a great number of people over hundreds of years have commited deplorable acts of violence in the name of God you neglect to address the fact that millions of people are helped every day by those who actually follow the actual teachings of those religions original teachers.
We could say thousand upon thousands have been killed by atheists because of their mind set.
Neither is a valid argument just a lame attempt to gain an upper hand.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus 'millions of people are helped every day by those who actually follow the actual teachings of those religions original teachers.' I'm sorry but in most cases, they are helping others in spite of their religion.
'They're so kind, you'd never even know they were religious' - Christopher Hitchens (papaphrased).
Gogoplata205 7 hours ago
@Gogoplata205 You really have to look at it (kind of the way you are saying) on an individual by individual basis.
True they don't just help because they are 'religious'. They help because they care. Those who are religious and care are those who feel they are no better than anyone else.
Many atheists care and do great things to help others.
The good 'religious' believe God loves everyone and try to see everyone through that same perspective. Too bad they all aren't like that.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus 'Too bad they all aren't like that.' This is the crux of my issue with them (no pun intended). If they were all loving, friendly people, i'd just live and let live. But too many of them are not. But the good one created a moral shelter for them by saying we should not offend peoples beliefs. If religion has to go, it has to go for everyone, not just the bad ones. Although, if we could all just accpet what's true, based on testable evidence, that would be great aswell...
Gogoplata205 6 hours ago
@jrmaximus Paraphrased*
Gogoplata205 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus One last thing - "Just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want.' works both ways" The difference is, the models that phyisicist put forward are testable. Nobody has so far put forward a mecanism by which a creator could perform the task of creating at will. It's totally unrelated to scientific study, and is therefore not a theory. Hence, non sequitor.
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Miner49er0 7 hours ago
from 0:52-0:57 I do believe you contradicted your own beliefs. Were you trying to say what atheists believe? Or were you trying to logically deduce things for yourself? Either way what you're saying is fallacious from the subjected points of view. If one uses the logic that everything must come from something then therefore God must also come from something, yes?
legitimatelygenuine 7 hours ago
We admit that we don't know. dummy
Imatallguy1 7 hours ago
It's so interesting that you use this rhetoric on your video, it makes us appreciate the honesty and dignity of atheism versus the infantile fantasies of religious people - when other people accept a story that was completely and obviously made up having to do with superbeing(s) and for which there is absolutely no factual base, and believers aren't rigorous enough to question the origin of those stories ....
BoricuaChiTown 7 hours ago
@BoricuaChiTown I'm sure you are smart enough not to accept any arguments ,regarding the question of true reality, without digging deeply into it personally so you know all the possible thoughts concerning it and not just those of un-studied religious.
After all that would make people think you deliberately reassure yourself of your position by only debating those you know have weak arguements.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
LOL are you honest and humble enough to admit that you do not know either?
BoricuaChiTown 8 hours ago
Has anyone seen my pencil....its red with a green eraser...
philthy122 8 hours ago
"Why do we exist"
To reproduce. Its that simple. If that's not good enough for you then continue believing in a fairy tale that prevents you from living your life to the fullest, just so you can live forever in a boring ass place.
bigredphenom 8 hours ago
...If you do not understand the science behind such research, that is your problem. Do the research and you'll find that the natural world is far more beautiful than anything in the bible.
Gogoplata205 8 hours ago
@Gogoplata205 the bible is a collection of writings over many years. Some writings claim to be history, some are poetry, some claim to be prophetic, others are simply letters written from one person to another (or group).
I'm not sure I understand your point. Is it not like saying the car I brought food home in isn't nurishing? The two are not comparable. They serve different purposes.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus I'm pretty sure you you do understand my point, you seem far to inteligent not to. The bible makes claims about reality that are unattractive when compared to reality as it is. Granted he stated that he wasn't asking from the point of view of a christian. But i just wanted to make a point. clearly he gets his facts from the bible as opposed to peer review papers. I was simply suggesting he try the latter and that if he did so he'd find the facts in then far more exciting.
Gogoplata205 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus Also, i know what the bible is. But it's not being read as you described it except by inteligent people who realise that it's content is not to be taken as fact. It's too often being read as a true account of the history of our universe, which it clearly is not.
Gogoplata205 7 hours ago
@Gogoplata205 I do agree that much is read incorrectly and argued as factual. Often it is poetic and more symbolic but read and taken as literal.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
what is more logical that something has always existed in some form or another or going back in time everything came into existence at a specific point where absolutely nothing existed prior?
jrmaximus 8 hours ago
... Some time ago, people believed that rainbows where proof of god, as we could not explain how the colours 'knew' to line up as they did. We now know that it's simply the effect of light being refracted through droplets of water. My point is just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want. Recent research has found that the total energy of the universe is 0, which suggests that the universe could have infact come from nothing...
Gogoplata205 8 hours ago
@Gogoplata205 Religion, to me, is mans attempts to explain a great many things, especially a creator.
A true examination of the question 'is there any merit to there being a creator?' does not need to be tied with religion. It comes down to the nature of what we call reality and if to be studied scientifically falls in the realm of theoretical physics.
"... just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want" works both ways.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus "just because we can't YET explain something, does not mean you can just fill the gap with anything you want" works both ways.' in this case it does not. I'm aware that religions are failed sciences and that Deism is wholely separate. But i find the notion that Deism could fall into the realm of Theoretical physics disturbing as placing the most complicated thing that could possibly exist in the begining is a non sequitor.
Gogoplata205 7 hours ago
@Gogoplata205 I don't hold to there being a 'beginning' of all things. We can view our being here had some sort of beginning but, whether a creative entity or the universe as a process existing outside of any influencing force, I don't believe either had a beginning.
Without knowing how I understand a 'creator' and reality I can see where you would not be able to connect said creator with theoretical physics. Religions paint a very different understanding.
jrmaximus 7 hours ago
@jrmaximus Well i have to agree to some extent. I prefer to simply think of the begining as the point at which our universe entered it's current state, as before this point, we can't imagine what the state of matter was. The only reason i have such a problem with the idea of a deity is that it's far to complicated to simply exist. I'd have less trouble accepting that a deity evolved from a simpler entity, but then what reason do we have to think thats the case...
Gogoplata205 7 hours ago
@Gogoplata205 I believe we can get ourselves down a really deep rabbit hole if we want.
I guess I say I have no trouble with the idea of a creator because complex or not, with no actual beginning there is nothing to limit or control what it would be as opposed to the way our physical world is.
jrmaximus 6 hours ago
@jrmaximus If there is no begining, then no creator is necessary. Case and point. No reason to believe one exists.
I could just as well say (and i know this will sound like a joke, but i'm being serious) that the universe is just a tear drop of a crying giant. But we have no reason to believe that is the case.
Gogoplata205 6 hours ago
wow, 'this very simple question'
I respect your inquisitiveness, but come on, that's gotta be THE question! of all time!
I personally feel that Atheists approach that question by trying to find an answer by all sorts of methods. testing, peer reviewing, theorising, speculating, delving into what we know and trying to find out more
most people who believe in a higher power simply say "God did it" and leave it at that. no progression, no deepening of our understanding, no searching.
lustreboy 8 hours ago
... If you are going to say god always existed, then why not just say the universe always existed in some form. You see Inflation theory (the big bang) only explain how the universe came to be in it's current state of expantion. It does not suggest that before the 'big bang' the universe did not exist, but that it existed in a form that we have yet to be able to describe. Continued...
Gogoplata205 8 hours ago
'Very simple question' You make it sound so trivial, when it so clearly is not. Firstly, 'Where did it come from'? is not really a valid question, as that would imply a 'where' exists outside of the universe from which it could come. It would make more sense to ask how it came to be. in which case the answer is i do not know (although we do have some ideas). But to imply that a god created it only involks the question how did god come to be? Continued...
Gogoplata205 8 hours ago
so his question is how/wehere did the universe came from and why? could u dont ask that about God? how did he got created?
xxnotmuchxx 8 hours ago
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Bitch please, Everybody knows that Arceus created the universe.
JonasMaia94 8 hours ago
Bitch please, Everybody knows that Arceus created the universe.
JonasMaia94 8 hours ago
At least you have your head on straight, my friend. I had a conversation with one of my creationist friends and after much useless debate we both decided we believed nothing created nothing for fun.
SunkenCide 8 hours ago
@c18gregjockca Insulting me will not make you right. And what's magic? A hipotesis by one of the most brilliant scientists of today? Who offers a logic explanation for this problem?
JonasMaia94 8 hours ago
@JonasMaia94 i was BORN right, trash. but insulting you is just icing on the cake. YAY! anyways, anyone that violates thermodynamics is called a "CRACKPOT".
c18gregjockca 6 hours ago
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free will = believe what you will. according to the Bible (Genesis1) it states that God spoke saying "Let there be light". 2 things were first before the light. Darkness & God. so was God the Darkness or was it a companion. The 'Word' of God made light and the darkness didn't cease to exist but was divided from the light, thus night & day. so was this the Big Bang? why did God speak if nothing was there to hear the words except the darkness? Mystery is Darkness, it can't be studied but light can
1KillerBitch 9 hours ago
Just because I cannot explain something to you does not instantly slam it down that you are correct. The human race has not advanced enough to understand every question out there, and just because we cannot answer it does not mean you're correct in your answer.
So personally, I don't know, but that doesn't mean you are right.
GameReviewer1987 9 hours ago
ALIENS CREATED EVERYTHING
LOL
cnlo2002 9 hours ago
It is true that matter cannot be created or destroyed, so who is to say that matter has always existed?
Dragonfirefang 9 hours ago
"matter always existed, but this is impossible"
What about God then?
dadsa5 10 hours ago
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dam atheist, dam you to hell,dam you to hell.
lp000028 10 hours ago
just bcuz we dont know were the universe came from it doesnt mean a guy in the clouds made it, and if god made earth who made god u did say matter cannot make its self.
xxxrocker3 10 hours ago
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just want to drop in again and say im not an atheist. im Methodist. and that for a better explanation of what most atheist and physicist believe you should entertain this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=fxNbXjBbzEo
2012perkins 10 hours ago
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2012perkins 10 hours ago
Simple answer; BANG! due to random circumstance...
LEGION141 10 hours ago
heisenberg's uncertainty principle clearly states how and to what magnitude matter can be created from nothing.
2012perkins 10 hours ago
Dude...think about a better question. Just because I can't answer your question (which ISN'T simple at all) doesn't prove I'm wrong to be an atheist. I wonder how you might view the concept of television if we were living 200 years ago. Impossible? Of course it's impossible. Flight? Impossible right? Clearly not. I can't explain the origin of the universe. Doesn't mean God made it.
Geekman333 10 hours ago
God Bless Fuckwitistan.
Geekman333 10 hours ago
Nobody knows. what Agentfarnsworth said, check out the M-theory.
But seriously.. you don't know something, and you instantly think "God must have made us" instead of looking for an answer? What kind of way of life is this? When I was seven years old, I didn't know how a toaster worked.. So I wrecked one to see what was inside, then I still didn't know because the stuff inside didn't tell me very much. I lacked knowledge, thus became curious, instead of blaming it on some higher power.
hermest99 10 hours ago
I'm an atheist and the answer is I don't know. But cleverer people than me have thought about it and there are a number of theories. Check out Membrane (M-theory). It makes more sense than your god theory.
agentfarnsworth 11 hours ago
Believers think that, instead to investigate the truth and the processes of Nature, you can hang on magic and resolve everything with a god, an imaginary being that should explain all and explains nothing...
discodancer69 11 hours ago
I'm not saying there isn't a God, I'm just saying there's no reason for YOUR God. He is idiotic, hypocritical, bloodthirsty and morally backward. However to the question of there actually being a God, I Don't know. But I'm not just going to listen to idiotic stories to ease my feeling of not knowing. I'm going to hope for science to eventually find the answer, that happening in my lifetime however is very unlikely.
TomoHawKzZ 11 hours ago
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you judge what is possible and what is not... matter has always existed is impossible you say, beings have always existed is impossible you say, so how can you say that the fact that god created the universe is possible?? answer me this dude
senoner90 11 hours ago
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.The universe didn't need a God to begin; it was quite capable of launching its existence on its own." - Stephen Hawking
chillenmaster 11 hours ago
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But what you don't realize is...
YOU AREN'T HERE!?!?
penguinlord76 11 hours ago
Were did God come from?
poolcool11roblox 11 hours ago
@poolcool11roblox God has always existed to those who believe God has always existed. This guy is trying to specifically ask those who have the belief contrary to this what started the universe.Those who believe in God say faith is the reason they believe in him and that he's always been around. Atheists also have to have "faith" because they "believe" the world began by evolutionary means.They were not there to see this happen.They must except that it just did. THATS FAITH!
hawaiiangirls09 10 hours ago
@poolcool11roblox It's also funny, because atheists have faith, but cannot empirically prove it exists, because atheists, by definition, only believe in the physical world. Faith is an idea, the idea of numbers is an idea, ect. Ideas do not exist in the "natural" realm.
hawaiiangirls09 10 hours ago
Oh jeez, he thinks he's smart.
guywithface99 11 hours ago
Heres the answer i dont know, and JUST BECAUSE i dont know, i do not make up silly stories to make myself feel better about the fact that i dont know. At least be productive and think about it man...
infintiyward 12 hours ago 18
Lmao you're a dumbass
MrJM0S 12 hours ago
sorry, i do not know the answer to your questions
i have a question:
are you honest and humble enough to admit that you do not know either?
LoonTekk 12 hours ago 16
here we go.
WE DO NOT FUCKING KNOW.
THATS THE POINT, YOU IGNORANT DUMBASS.
religion is nothing but an assumption. we will never know where the universe came from.
do u honestly believe some magic man in the sky just shat out our universe? NO U FUCKING RETARD.
TheNinjaLettuce 12 hours ago
a being doesn't exist but a higher power can how?
Irobot0007 12 hours ago
I got a question for you. Where did "God" come from and why?
Both questions are to me impossible to answer so the rational choice is to say that god doesn't exist because right? Also it would be rational in that sentence to say that the universe doesn't exist right? However we could assume that the universe exists since we live in it right? otherwise there is no universe and this is all a fragment of my imagination right?
MrImbafkingpro 12 hours ago
heres a question, if gods real then why did he create atheists
spark9of9creation 12 hours ago
the big bang proven, god is not
spark9of9creation 12 hours ago
Science isn't entirely sure what happened 10^-36 s (that's 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds) after the big bang, but that doesn't mean you can fill in the gaps with your 'magic god' with no proof.
dan4boi 12 hours ago
"A Universe from Nothing" by Laurence Krauss :3 Empty space is unstable. We don't know why it is, but as a fact energy (positive and negative) can spring into existence.
The total amount of energy and mass the universe is calculated to be a total of 0, so non of this would violate the laws of energy conservation.
And even if none knew how the universe was created, a simple "I don't know but i don't see why that would lead me to 'god did it'" answer should be enough.
Bjoernzor 12 hours ago
I am no more mad at God than I am mad at the giant spaghetti monster in the sky
emerodriscollpaton 12 hours ago
Christians don't know either. In your religion, God is part of the universe. Now, where did God come from?
thenoaha9999 12 hours ago
@thenoaha9999 God is finite, He has no beginning and no end. simple as that.
ecshroom21 12 hours ago
The one thing that Science can not explain... WHY??
sngncwby 12 hours ago
@sngncwby science has explained where the universe came from, the big bang, ever heard of it, and not the program.
spark9of9creation 12 hours ago
@spark9of9creation Thats not the question I asked.. Science can NOT prove WHY??? WHY?? Why did life start.. Why did the universe "Begin".. when you can Answer that I will listen to you.. Until then I will listen to what God Tells me..
sngncwby 12 hours ago
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@sngncwby We don't know what happened before the big bang because the laws of physics were different then. Our understanding of physics comes from studying a nearly-flat space-time curvature. At the moment of the big bang, the curvature was infinite.
We don't know how the universe began. Neither do you. Just because we don't understand something doesn't mean it's logical to create a magical being to explain it.
AstoriaRego 12 hours ago
@sngncwby where did god come from? and the big bang does explain WHY life began and where it came from, a long strange chain of events, from a meteor hitting earth creating the moon, to the temperature cooling down allowing water to settle and having a moon to create an atmosphere to create clouds the rest is historical science, read a book that isn't written by ignorant priest or from a time where they crucified people.
spark9of9creation 12 hours ago
well its called the big bang my friend
dannyturner1105 12 hours ago
@dannyturner1105 Please explain it?? Im pretty sure there WAS a Big Bang when God created this universe...
sngncwby 12 hours ago
i dont know, just like every human doesnt know xd
stonedboar 12 hours ago
Religion is like ancient science, we used religion because we couldn't explain how every thing came from nothing, but now scientist know how the earth was created and how humans have evolved, as science advances religion slowly desolves because the things that religion explained is now being understood by science.... Now i may not know how the universe came to be but i belive science will some day discover how
understandingz 13 hours ago
Every hear of this guy named Stephen Hawking? His documentaries on the creation of the universe are more than could be explained in this comment.
Chromiumism 13 hours ago
@Chromiumism Well from what I've seen it truly doesn't answer this question at all. He's not talking about HOW it was formed after it came to be, he's asking when exactly the matter and laws of physics BEGAN, and because time is infinite, why would the universe start when it started??
ABR0733 12 hours ago
MY ASS!
CharlieeGostliing 13 hours ago
Love how this guy can tell me what i believe and how i came to believe it. And they wonder why some atheists hate religion.
ThyGodlyness 14 hours ago
so we dont quite know how the universe was created, mmmm. a magical man made it!!! sorted!
MrSomerfeild 14 hours ago
Evolution motha facka! Its all explained by math. But we are not evolved enough to understand it yet, so we invent a god. There's your answer!
Octavice 14 hours ago
How? Scientists currently think that it all began with the Big Bang because they are a lot of evidences towards it (we can't still mesure microwave signals originated from the big bang, etc.) and the theory of abiogenesis and also evolution (not a theory by the way) explain how organisms were made of non-organic material and became more complex over a long long long period of time. But the "Why?" i cant really say, well philosophicaly. It happened because it was favorable with the laws of nature
kevenbelangerharbour 14 hours ago
no top comment ur a dick
ThatOneFunnyGuy28 14 hours ago
What's the difference? That God created the universe, but we don't know who created him or why. Or, that that the universe was created by something else, but we don't know how it was created.
johnandaway 14 hours ago
LACK OF EVIDENCE IS NOT PROOF OF ANY 'GOD'.
Your logic is flawed.
herrbdog 14 hours ago
another moron pretending to hold a thought
99xanthan99 14 hours ago
I think you misunderstand what it means to be atheist. We're not mad at god. Just like we are not mad at unicorns or leprechauns. As to how and why the universe came to be, we dont have a definite answer. That isnt the same as saying a higher power mustve done it. Poseidon was once thought to create storms at sea. Human knowledge has since moved beyond that, and we now understand how storms and weather in general work. One day we may also know for sure how the universe came to be.
GroovingPict 14 hours ago 3
Why did my car just get a flat tire? Well its because it probably rolled over something sharp, or had a slow leak. For what purpose did it get a flat tire? Well thats a dumb question, there was no reason for it. just cause you can ask Why doesn't mean it has an answer.
MasterRobinHood 14 hours ago
Where did God come from, and why? How come God gets to be exempt from "nothing comes from nothing"?
Also, I don't dislike Christianity purely because of the actions of allegedly 'wrong' Christians...I also dislike it because its core text endorses (among other things) slavery and genocide. I also don't disbelieve it because I dislike it (otherwise I could disbelieve in the existence of, say, tax return forms, for which there is sadly clear evidence for).
KeithFraser82 14 hours ago 2
Exp. something that keeps its ditance from another.. fire evaperates water then water re apears well away from the heat and in mid air attracting again in a cloud then drops back down to earth away from the sun. Three types of features have always been here since the very start. Solid, liquid and gas when all three of these meet they try to keep distance if they get forced they make alot of elements.
Elementalmonk 15 hours ago
Heres a better question, if there is a god who created him?? You said a being couldnt always exist, right? You said matter couldnt always exist, right? If there is a God who created him?
ShadyRaider 15 hours ago
@GodKillerAtheist no, asshole. the cosmic microwave background only proves the BIG BANG. it doesn't prove that "matter began". it didn't. thermodynamics doesn't give you the space to make that bullshit claim so shove a grenade between your legs and press the button, bitch. i want to see your bits dangling from tree tops when this day is done.
c18gregjockca 15 hours ago
Nothing gets smaller than a sphere in its smallest size when that sphere gets trapped in a gravity field it then inplodes then explodes stretching the gravity field. (bit like an atom bomb) After hitting into eachother so hard they keep a good distance from eachother and attract things near by then life begins. Thats my theory -.O
Elementalmonk 15 hours ago
"Where did the universe come from, and why? Simple question."
*Facepalm*
GarthHS 15 hours ago 2
how do i deal with this simple question?well, it`s quite easy you see...i just say ''I do not not know; there are several theories out there, more or less plausible (the big bang being the most widely accepted at this moment), but i don`t know for sure''.
And the truth is nobody knows.That`s why all those who claim to know for sure are deluded fairy worshiping dumbfucks.
DudeIAmAPsy 15 hours ago
you got me, now I'm sad and stuff
PharaohIslands 16 hours ago
Why does a dice sometimes roll a 6? Why does so many things happen completely at random? Why is it that you can not accept that the multiverse happened by nothing more than a coincidence?
ibytedk 16 hours ago
You implicate, that everyone needs to have an answer to such questions. What a religious person chooses to do, is to invent something/someone/god he doesn't understand to explain something else he doesn't understand.
I just cut out the middle man and just don't understand some things. And I am quite certain, that its ok, because there are much smarter people than myself, who also don't understand it.
nautsch 17 hours ago
@nautsch Yes but how do you measure intelligence? Is it by how much you study equation that WE have invented to make sense of the universe? Everything is limited to our perception. God is not just used to explain something we dont know. Me personally I believe God is the force that creates life. There is no need for us to be conscious and self aware of our own universe and death, espcially if there was no importance to life (meaning it was a random event).
TheTheKRIT 16 hours ago
@nautsch Yes but how do you measure intelligence? Is it by how much you study equation that WE have invented to make sense of the universe? Everything is limited to our perception. God is not just used to explain something we dont know. Me personally I believe God is the force that creates life. There is no need for us to be conscious and self aware of our own universe and death, espcially if there was no importance to life (meaning it was a random event).
TheTheKRIT 16 hours ago
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this video made laugh my ass off, I cant believe the ignorance of this guy,
just because you dont understand or know how something was made or created,
it doesnt mean god did it.
it just means that we dont fully understand it yet
Pablog54b 17 hours ago
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this video made laugh my ass off, I cant believe the ignorance of this guy,
just because you dont understand or know how something was made or created,
it doesnt mean god did it.
it just means that we dont fully understand it yet
Pablog54b 17 hours ago
this video made laugh my ass off, I cant believe the ignorance of this guy,
just because you dont understand or know how something was made or created,
it doesnt mean god did it.
it just means that we dont fully understand it yet
Pablog54b 17 hours ago
THE ANSWER to religion is simple: NO ONE knows and No one Ever knew about God, PERIOD!!! So to believe in God and issues associated with God, is perfectly fine, but to actually live your life based on that is foolish. There should be 1 religion and only 1 religion and that should be called the "open mind" religion. This religion would be defined by its followers believing that anything is possible, but not to live out their lives until something is proven without a doubt. Any followers?
busdriver3261 17 hours ago
That's the thing religious people don't get about religion. We as humans don't have to make up an answer for such a tough question if we don't know it. Atheists can simply admit we don't know. We are a group dedicated to figuring the world out in a humble manner, as opposed to foolishly being so assured of such a big question. It's simply a world view based on the evidence of the universe, rather than evidence of a book that has a habit of creating a unhealthy bias towards the universe.
Trakstar84 17 hours ago
atheism is not a religion. that means that atheism doesn't try to come up with explanations to things we don't know. that is what religion does. nobody should know for sure where the universe came from, but the only way to find out is through science, not theology.
stevnev88 18 hours ago
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MasterRobinHood 14 hours ago
It literally just came into existence. This is also when time began. If you add all of the energy in the universe (positive and negative energy), it adds up to 0. This means that no being was required to make the universe. Also since there was no time before the universe was created. This means there was no time for someone to create the universe. The why is irrelevant.
Poontangclannn 18 hours ago
@Poontangclannn That's pure conjecture. Don't argue against someone's made up beliefs with those of your own. It's pointless.
NeoConsREvil 17 hours ago