det var sopranelsker som skreiv den setningen om maria, jeg postet den så alle kunne se hva slags menneske han var og jeg avsluttet med å skrive : "rett skal være rett. Sopranelsker er en idiot".... sigh
No sé pero hay algo que me gusta de los suecas, noruegas y alemanas. Son los pueblos con las mujeres más bellas del mundo! Tienen las mujeres facciones muy finas, son esteticamente perfectas. Te amo María.
Ultimateone1. You must be the worst kid like ever. How about gtfo and dont care about others private lives! ? I know her family. Get this straight.
Her real father was never married with her mother. He left her and her mother. And as her mother got married to Mr.Arredondo. She wanted his last name. Cause she felt like Mr.Arredondo was her father. So the family got issues? Cause she picked Arredondo her self as last name ? Im pretty sure you got issues. Its like the most ridiculous ive ever read
@MrWtfownd123 well, for starters this is my new account, I'm ultimateone1 and I have nothing against maria. as a matter of fact I was defending her/ quoting what another dickhead was saying .Ok, I know her father why would I hate her?
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If you want to listen to this beautiful song in spanish, search VUELVO A COMENZAR, sung by the mexican group TIMBIRICHE, here in youtube. Both versions are lovable.
I wont be here fighting over something that has no meaning what so ever. Insults and trash talk wont make it make it any better. Life is too short.
if you believe that "hunting" me will make you feel better so be it. l believe that you should be ashame of yourself for saying those things about maria.
at least I have balls to admit that i was wrong for being part of a childless conversation involving someone tthat has not the oportunity to be here to defend himself.
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amarop: It doesn't matter whether or not Maria knows her father. She is still a dumb fuck if she's not able to, or refuse to call/(refer-to) her bio dad, dad.
ultimate: 10 email in a day, LOL!
On days I do my provoke raids I can get two thousand email in a few hours. When I walk though'em, I easily step over dumb fucks if there is someone who is able to support their statements with reason, something that obviously exclude the two of you.
Soprane, judgin by your dumb theory it means that every person on this planet are "dumb fuckers" for refering themselves as:
-a black person
-a white person
There's no such thing as having white skin color, nor black skin color.
"White" people have #F8BA9C color on their skin, a light yellow and red mix.
"Black" people have 3A261F color on their skin which is dark red and yellow mix. Of course they know they arent black or white. Its the same in marias situation. Still dont get it?
'In Marias case it's even worse, sinse her mother must have changed Marias last name after she met Mr. Arrodondo. Maria carry a name that got absolutely NOTHING to do with her. I would have understood if she had her mother's maiden name, or her fathers name. She has had alots of time to fix this stupidity, but no. She's too stupid. What a terrible mountain of issues this family must have.'
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BTW, is it really that strange that a reply can lag half a year from a person who are able to provoke page up and page down of incoming replies? Yes, I used my account on a weekly basis but that doesn't mean I care to clean up my inbox regularly.
So, as you now should be able to see, it doesn't really have to be strange even though you obviously wants it to:-)
clean up your inbox, really? Dude, you dont need to clean your inbox to see when people send you a new message, personal message, comment.. you name it! its right infront of you, thats the first thing you see....
Soprane, Its the same thing over and over again. its no the first time you leave a discussion in anger. If i recall correctly you have done this on two different occasions. Of course that's because your inbox is lagging, duh.
I bet itll take you one month to come with something new and fresh and start the same bullshit over and over again. "Why cant maria call "a duck a duck".She's stupid, you're stupid, the world is stupid"
Look, its old and boring . Find something else to do, kid
I have like 10 replies and privat messages on a daily basis, even I can see all my incoming replies and messages........... heck you have a hotmail /gmail box where you can see all your incoming mails..... youtube will send you automate email respond from every event on your youtube account
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Thanks for clearing that out. I guess we can cut brain transplant from the list of necessary medical procedure to cure your stupidity, or maybe you have come to realize that I have been right all along. You have had no objection to the fact that I reject children unable to call their father, father, a premisis that may be untrue in Maria's case if we should trust you. I guess we're close to agree about everything now. Assuming you're right, Maria's CD's will be taken off my ban list.
eh,should I agree with you? You said that adoptive people who call their adoptive parents, parents... were plain stupid. Especially if they were old enough to realize they werent their bio parents. Your own words... dont try to run away from your own words...your word are written here and can be tracked. Stop lying!
You said that she needed to honor her real father, and that she was dumb for using her stepfather's last name.
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Is it because you're a dumb fuck that you actually believe it's disqualifying to answer a message after a certain time when time got nothing to do with the context in the debate?
Help me out here. You're obviously an interesting subject worth a study.
its not disqualifying to answer a message after a loooooooong loooooong time LOL. Youre right.
The thing is that I find it strange that you decided to comment after all these months, yeah you heard me, almost 1/2 year!!! There have been activities on your account since then., you had the chance to reply within these 6 months of absence but instead decided to answer it 6 months later?
You should take a look at everything you wrote and be ashamed of yourself.
New Jan Johansen album "Minnen" featuring duet with Maria Arredondo is now released on Universal Norway. Documentary video no my channel as well as the video for the first single "Fri" [Free]. Welcome!
she has a beautiful voice. the is a mexican band that sings the same song, but is in spanish, they're called timbiriche. search for them and see if you like it.
wow buena rolla la verdad en mexico la version timbiriche no le cambio nada mis respetos para maria arredondo ojala hubieran sido mas originales los de timbiriche pero no es una copia total de esta version congratulationes maria eres una exelente cantante
yo tmb soy de mexico jeje, y ps siii es exactamente la misma pista, pero no la letra, son totalmente opuestas y en lo personal me gusta mucho mas estaaa
amatop2000, in fact, you do need to honour your father. Without him your life wouls not exist, and without your life it would not be possible to dishonour your father, a contradiction. Thus, to be a reasonable human being you've got no choice but to honour your father even if he used to burn you with sigarets when you were little.
I'm happy that you finally understood my very simple logic. We can conclude that even if you're a complete dumb fuck, it's still hope.
sopranelsker: :"Thus, to be a reasonable human being you've got no choice but to honour your father even if he used to burn you with sigarets when you were little."
hahaha, here we go again.
you're plain stupid. You dont need to honour anyone you stupid dumb fucker. We dont choose our parents We didnt ask for someone to plant the seeds.
You have no choice what so ever.
you come up with stupid comments,, arent you tired of being so dumb?
amatop, no, I only got a problem with a child if it is consciously unable to call his father, father. And this regardless if there has been sig burning, rape, hatred or whatever you wish to list. You see, dumb fuck, those unwishful things is not relevant when the question is: who is your father.? Is this someting you find hard to grasp?
No, amatop. What first of all shows stupidity in our conversation is your immature appeal to time in a subject that is not time related.
I hope for your sake you did not past 15 years of age and that your profile is false or else it would be a sad thing knowing very few people learn basic reasoning after this age. If you're indeed 30, good luck with your life. You obviously need it.
As long as you are not able to show evidence to support your claim I have shown lack of logical sense you're powerless in your lose claim.
I've got nothing unspoken with Mr Arredondo, dumb f*ck. He is not included by my criticism saying every child should be able to call his/her father, father.
BTW, is it fun to be as giddy as you obviously are?
well have fun you idiot , you're unbelievable dumb.You're "duck duck" theory is funny btw. There's no comparison between your theory and marias situation. So lay the fuck off you fool!
After all these comments you still dont get it, do you? Must have hurt you so badly that you couldnt help but "bumping" into this subject...... 1/2 year later??????... unbelievable! looooool
It's far too late in this conversation to escape the premisis which stated even before I joined that maria is unable to call her father, father. It was on top on this statement I built my reasoning. If this statement is untrue, my reasoning is still valid because I made it general for all children unable to call their father, father.
You can run, bu you can't hide, dumb fuck. I will hunt you down like a bloodhound for no other reason than I love to make fun of dumb fucks like you.
bla bla, shut the fuck up. 1. you're nothing 2 you're fucking stupid 3 you're a fucking I-know-it-all wannabe 4 Shut the fuck up 5 again, youre nothing 6 fuck you were's your fucking mind, dumbass??? Do you have one?? Jesus christ you're making a fool of yourself. Of course she knows he's not her real father, whats the problem?? im tired of having to reply the same thing over and over again, but you just don't get it, huh?... sigh*
You wouldn't have to repeat yourself if you tried harder du understand what you read. I never doubted Maria knows who is her father. Try again, dumb fuck. I love to make fun of retards like you.
As far as Im concerned you've asked me if she knew if he was her biological father or if she was really that stupid to see him as "real" father.... short memory idiot?? Lets break it up...
-she knows he's not her bio father,
-she doesnt know her bio father,
-she calls him dad.
Get real idiot.. She's entitled to feel whatever she wants to feel. it has nothing to do with being dumb
There is nothing in your text to support I've got short memory.
I never suggested as you assumed in your last message that Maria doesn't know who is her father. My criticism was solely about children who are not able to call their bio- father, father. In the discussion it was held as true that Maria doesn't want to call her biological father, father. I rested my conclusion on this premisis and can take no responsibility wether this is true or not.
You're a fucking disgrace sopranos for not being able to show some compassion for someone that never knew or never got the chance to meet his/her biological father. instead youre making fun of them for wanting to fill the emptiness..... If I recall correctly you were making fun of adoptiv people as well.
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I never knew anything about Maria doesn't know her real father. This is news to me now. My first comment was a reply to a statement that said Maria does not want to call her father, father.
I'm not obligated to show any compassion for anything, so you will get nothing from your appeals to my conscience.
huh? who said that she didnt want to call her real father, father? I can guaranteed you that I never said that. Go back and read idiot.
Im sorry but you wont find anything, cuz that is something only you saw........ shrink??? bump*
Of course you're not obligated to show compassion, but that just prove the piece of shit you are.... this world will never work as it s supposed to and thats solely cuz of people like you. You're a disgrace.
Soprano, dude. your the first comment you made was something like this:
"ill stop buying cd from this dumb girl who is not able to call a duck a duck."
it was a reply to my comment.... cuz there were some guys asking why maria had a latino name. So i told them that she got it from her stepfather. And then suddenly you start calling her dumb for not being able to call a duck a duck.
Ok, but there's a possibility that he miight be right. Depending of the situation, say if maria decided to erased her fathers last name for no obvious reason.
She didn't know her real father, thats why she replaced the emptiness and found herself a "new father". So thats a fucking good reason. Dont you think? Whats wrong with that? please shed some light.
"There is indeed something wrong with this girl. She's not able to call a duck a duck. A father a father and a stepfather a stepfather. Now I'm no longer confused about buying her records. I will never do. A stupid girl who are not able to honour her real father, don't deserve a single dollar of mine"
Here's the problem. This is where you started this childless discussion, and this stupid duck duck thing.
amatop2000, she can honour anyone she likes, and that might be worth something if she was able to call her father her father.
I have already given a explaination, written in a form of perfect reasoning, why I criticise her. Why the heck you ask that question now can be explained by you being extreamly dizzy or lack a brain all together.
amatop2000, yes indeed I'm attacking Maria, and for the very reason you quote. What are you trying to say by repeating what everyone who can read can see to be true? Are you extreamly dizzy?
Only because I cannot find any reasonable explaination for Maria not to call her father her father doesn't make me do not want to understand Marias situation. Did you open your skull to check if there's a brain inside? You're one of those who shouldn't trust the rumours saying every human got one.
ultimateone1, if you go back and read what I wrote you will easily find that I've got no problem with kids calling their stepfather dad. I never criticized maria for not having her real father beside her. Try to focus on what I actually write. That is if you even have the faintest clue how. If not, you're excused.
amatop2000, even if it's true that her real dad was never there doesn't make him any less her father. This may come as an surprise to you, but "not being there for her" does not travel back in time and reverse that sperm from fertilize that egg, and even it that was possible, Maria wouldn't be here to exist. dahhh
To ultimateone1 it doesn't make sense when I frase the very essens of formallogik, which "sense" at the root is refering to. I think we are getting a clear picture to explain why ultimateone1 is writing as he does.
Where does Gov't grow dumb fucks like ultimateone1?
you started fighting people, you talk shit about maria, you talk shit about people who got adoptive parents you talk shit about everything that you dont like even though it makes logical sense....
ultimateone1, no, I do not talk shit about people who got adoptive parents, but about people who are not able to call their father, father and STEPfather, STEPfather.
When will you stop reading things into my text that isn't there, Psychotic Crackpot?
you dont talk shit about people? excuse me....cough*
Do you know how many people i know that have adoptives parents here in norway? My friend has adoptive parents.... he always refers to them as "dad/mother" and not as "my adoptive parents"... in marias case its the same. the guy is her "father"....end of.
We all know he isnt..... but she refers to him as her father even thought she knows he isnt...
ultimateone1, I never said I do not talk shit about people, Psychotic Crackpot. I only said I do not talk shit about people for the reason of having adoptive parents.
When will you stop reading things into my text that isn't there, Psychotic Crackpot?
You know he she calls father, is not her father, and still you attack me and not her for this confusion, Psychotic Crackpot!?
ultimate2000, you are misrepresenting my statements. If you look at them as a whole you should understand that also I do think it's okey to call a stepfather dad until you should be a grownup in your head. Also it should be easy to read into my text I take Maria as member of this group.
When will you stop reading things into my text that isn't there, Psychotic Crackpot?
No one is attacking you, as a matter of fact you started criticizing maria, which in my opinion, was dumb and harsh way of criticizing a human being, hence why there shouldn't be a discussion in the first place.
You're not a king, not a god, nothing. Maria is just human being, and she knows perfectly well that he is not her father, but she sees him as her own father and likes to call him "father".
amatop2000, du forhaster deg til konklusjon nok en gang, som den umodne drittungen du er.
Yes, you are indeed attacking, for the reason of me criticising Maria for unability to call her father, father and her stepfather, stepfather. The fact that you actually do not realise this simple fact adds confirmation you're a immature crackpot.
'In Marias case it's even worse, sinse her mother must have changed Marias last name after she met Mr. Arrodondo. Maria carry a name that got absolutely NOTHING to do with her. I would have understood if she had her mother's maiden name, or her fathers name. She has had alots of time to fix this stupidity, but no. She's too stupid. What a terrible mountain of issues this family must have.'
I'm not attacking you as a matter of fact I'm trying to make you understand her situation but you don't want to. You called me idiot as well, cuz in your tiny brainI'm n just a dumb human being who is not allowed to call his grandpa "dad ".
I dont know my dad, neither did maria. Why are you attacking her?
"I never said I know it all, dumb fuck. What I said is that I know what I know. You have not been able to show oitherwise."
what does this mean? You know nothing? you know it all?.....
judging by your comments you know little..... there's too much shit going through your brain.
in your brain there must be something wrong with maria.....In my brain there's nothing wrong with her, a healthy brain will tell you the same.. My brain is healthy yours isnt......
ultimateone1, "i know what I know" got a extreamly precise meaning, more precise that most statements you hear during a day. If you do not believe me, you may ask a person you trust, who got a clue about lingvistics. Will you do just that, Psychotic Crackpot?
ultimateone1, ja, jeg vet hva jeg vet. Sikkert veldig morsomt for en umoden drittunge uten hverken predikatlogisk eller lingvistisk dannelse.
That I do not know shit, is a intersting hypotesis. Do you want to support it by a valid argument, Psychotic Crackpot?
That you actually can get yourself to write that you have owned me in this conversation only unveil how immature you are. At least in the eyes of people I consider it worthy to be thought of as a reasonable human being.
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amatop2000, so you are confirming my conclusion. There is indeed something wrong with this girl. She's not able to call a duck a duck. A father a father and a stepfather a stepfather. Now I'm no longer confused about buying her records. I will never do. A stupid girl who are not able to honour her real father, don't deserve a single dollar of mine.
you're entitled to say anything you want or do whatever you want, thats not my problem..... but i dont think that she's "stupid" as a matter of fact i think you're stupid.
there are a lot of people who never knew their real dad, does that make them "stupid"?
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amatop2000, my critisism about her is exclusively pointed at her unability to call her father her father and her stepfather her stepfather.
In the group {they who never knew their father} we got two subgroups {they who are able to call their father their father and their stepfather their stepfather} and {they who are not able to call their father their father and their stepfather their stepfather}
Thus, your question can not be understood as any reasonable objection to my conclusion.
My friend has a kid and that kid call him "dad" even though he's not his biological father .... is that kid stupid? I call my granpha "dad cuz I never knew my dad either, but my grandpa became my "dad" and adopted me and I got his last name. Im I stupid??
what's wrong with you!!
thats the human nature and that's nothing wrong with it.
amatop2000, short answer: yes. That makes you stupid.
In Marias case it's even worse, sinse her mother must have changed Marias last name after she met Mr. Arrodondo. Maria carry a name that got absolutely NOTHING to do with her. I would have understood if she had her mother's maiden name, or her fathers name. She has had alots of time to fix this stupidity, but no. She's too stupid. What a terrible mountain of issues this family must have.
thanks for calling me stupid. Im a jackass and I suck cuz Im solely responsible and guilty for what my dad did when I was born, I'm even more stupid for letting my grandpa adopting me when i was a little kid.
amatop2000, no you're not responsible for things before you were able to use your brains to think reason with. A hope would be that this was the case from you were around 12. As it seams, you have learnt to call your grandpa, grandpa, which only conclude my reasoning. The fact that you are not able to see this contradiction about yourself only tell us you're half stupid half reasonable.
Maria Arrodondo is still a dumb fuck, which is okey, only that I can't stand her type of dumb fuckness.
conclusion? theres nothing to argue about, nothing to discuss you dumb fuck.
Its pretty obvious. and when I tried to come up with something all you did was to slag me off with stupid comments.
and your stupid duck duck theory is just as dumb as you brain, cuz in this situation, in marias situation, she knows perfectly well that her stepfather is her stepfather, so the duck duck theory wont help you here.
now fuck off bitch. You're rude, evil, dumb, idiot and too fucking cold.
sweet.
allexwang 3 weeks ago
Brief And Beautiful.....
JoshStar4856 3 weeks ago
wow, i love this song, y también la deTimbiriche, pero ésta está demaravilla!!!!!
AllanCit00m0xo 2 months ago
beautiful song
lailap1991 2 months ago
det var sopranelsker som skreiv den setningen om maria, jeg postet den så alle kunne se hva slags menneske han var og jeg avsluttet med å skrive : "rett skal være rett. Sopranelsker er en idiot".... sigh
channelmusic3 2 months ago
No sé pero hay algo que me gusta de los suecas, noruegas y alemanas. Son los pueblos con las mujeres más bellas del mundo! Tienen las mujeres facciones muy finas, son esteticamente perfectas. Te amo María.
alfaautalef 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Maria Arredondo
This sweet innocent voice that reminds you of your teenage tears
DaphneDinoGoesRawr 4 months ago
Bueno q yo sepa, Timbiriche sacó esta version al principio de ahi fue esta chica q canta de maravilla, y despues Edurne... en si mi calificacion es
1ER LUGAR MARIA ARREDONDO BRIEF AND BEAUTIFUL
2DO LUGAR TIMBICHE VUELVO A COMENZAR
2ER LUGAR EDURNE FUE PARA LOS DOS
yuyitzu91 4 months ago
@yuyitzu91 de hecho la saco primero Maria, despues Edurne y por ultimo Timbiriche :)
Adilene31 4 months ago
Ultimateone1. You must be the worst kid like ever. How about gtfo and dont care about others private lives! ? I know her family. Get this straight.
Her real father was never married with her mother. He left her and her mother. And as her mother got married to Mr.Arredondo. She wanted his last name. Cause she felt like Mr.Arredondo was her father. So the family got issues? Cause she picked Arredondo her self as last name ? Im pretty sure you got issues. Its like the most ridiculous ive ever read
MrWtfownd123 5 months ago 5
@MrWtfownd123 well, for starters this is my new account, I'm ultimateone1 and I have nothing against maria. as a matter of fact I was defending her/ quoting what another dickhead was saying .Ok, I know her father why would I hate her?
channelmusic3 2 months ago
Noen som har akkorder til denne sangen? :)
ragnhildKG 6 months ago
Hear the new verson:
On my CHANNEL!
with Hilda Stenmalm
YourMusicDJs 6 months ago
It's a pity that arredondo hasn't sing since her latest song-《The touch》in 2010
LorenOap 6 months ago
quien le hizo cover a quien? quien la canto primero?
BUCIXIAN 6 months ago
@BUCIXIAN Timbiriche a ella ^_^
fanreality 6 months ago
I just love that song and video! I falled crush :D
nelly12345678 7 months ago
el cover de timbiriche es muy bueno como esta!!!!
ZimZum4ever 7 months ago
is NOT gone ! ... not yet anyway ! ... xxx
macalcatzipenervi 7 months ago
that man in the MV is just like a beast
ssstorm10 7 months ago
so stunning
ssstorm10 7 months ago
escuchen el cover de esta canción en español por denisse
SuperTerrycola 8 months ago
What is this about criticize her name? She is an amazing artist, and her name isn't her fault. And it has nothing to do with her as an artist.
Tiriltoget 8 months ago
cover de VUELVO A COMENZAR DE TIMBIRICHE ^^ !!
AlanKevinPlasticboy 8 months ago
she sounds like mandy moore...
DPbandchick218 9 months ago
where is she? now
chungwai359 9 months ago
=D
MrWestlife22 10 months ago
hermoso pero corto
baciliomedina 10 months ago
WOW I LOVE THIS SONG,IS A BEAUTIFUL. =)
bernalgerardo1986 11 months ago
The song is perfect, but the video should be better
minazmorgul 11 months ago
She looks like Becky from Coronation Street...better singer though !
yodenman 1 year ago
shes so beautiful
TheWheeler96 1 year ago
aah, she's got such a beautiful voice!!!
blablabla9551 1 year ago
she is to good to be true :-)
upandhopp 1 year ago
Arredondo is my last name. =]
Except my name is Mayra,
Heymayra24 1 year ago
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I can't stop listening to it !!!!!
MIOJOJOJO 1 year ago
dice mi hermano ke esta rre te harto bien bonita :D jajajajajajajajja
egofrajs 1 year ago
This music video was brief - but it was very beautiful..
Pempslider 1 year ago
Love this song :) so sweet~
JJE162820 1 year ago
Man, this girl has a couple of beautiful eyes.
ildefonsoconra02 1 year ago
arredondo is the best surname she can have!!!!!! is the same as me so the best it could be... come on maria ARREDONDO!!!!!
setemix 1 year ago
hei
habbokristoffer 1 year ago
I LIKE MORE THE TIMBIRICHE VERSION!!!
karizmatikochucho 1 year ago
nice rhythm!
andrews23451 1 year ago
Wow, nice! (: *
KuliKaulitz 1 year ago
Woatch :) very nice
KuliKaulitz 1 year ago
VERY NICE SONG
Thorwolf1970 1 year ago
Beautiful woman sweet voice
SenoritaTJ 1 year ago 2
I love Brief and beautiful and Vuelvo a comenzar of Timbiriche
casda100 2 years ago
la de timbiriche suena infantil
prefiero la de edurne "fue para los dos"
ademas de que es mas romantica
Juliannirzo 2 years ago
@Juliannirzo quien es Edurne????
plomodead29 1 year ago
很好听很美
lianghui130 2 years ago
seems shes gonna be in MGP or somthing :I
balsamon 2 years ago
cutestuff.
Ulgor1 2 years ago
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If you want to listen to this beautiful song in spanish, search VUELVO A COMENZAR, sung by the mexican group TIMBIRICHE, here in youtube. Both versions are lovable.
oskahlo 2 years ago
U can hear the spanish version writing these words in youtube.
Edurne "Fue para los dos"
Edurne is the singer.
anyway, I like both versions
alikindoipuramierda 2 years ago
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keros21 2 years ago
very beautiful music video ,
JJE162820 2 years ago 3
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Sopranelsker 2 years ago
I wont be here fighting over something that has no meaning what so ever. Insults and trash talk wont make it make it any better. Life is too short.
if you believe that "hunting" me will make you feel better so be it. l believe that you should be ashame of yourself for saying those things about maria.
at least I have balls to admit that i was wrong for being part of a childless conversation involving someone tthat has not the oportunity to be here to defend himself.
Ill take back everything.
amatop2000 2 years ago
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amarop: It doesn't matter whether or not Maria knows her father. She is still a dumb fuck if she's not able to, or refuse to call/(refer-to) her bio dad, dad.
ultimate: 10 email in a day, LOL!
On days I do my provoke raids I can get two thousand email in a few hours. When I walk though'em, I easily step over dumb fucks if there is someone who is able to support their statements with reason, something that obviously exclude the two of you.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
Soprane, judgin by your dumb theory it means that every person on this planet are "dumb fuckers" for refering themselves as:
-a black person
-a white person
There's no such thing as having white skin color, nor black skin color.
"White" people have #F8BA9C color on their skin, a light yellow and red mix.
"Black" people have 3A261F color on their skin which is dark red and yellow mix. Of course they know they arent black or white. Its the same in marias situation. Still dont get it?
sigh*
amatop2000 2 years ago 4
Lets bury this once and for all.
what you've said, in your own words:
-it doesnt matter whether or not maria knows her father.
-I know that she know(that mr arredondo is not her real dad)
If you know she knows, then what is the fucking problem? DO you fucking understand or are you plain stupid???
my skin is white? of couse not, it's a mix of light red yellow
mr arredondo is my dad? of course not, he's my stepfather.
Try to run away now idiot. its about time you comprehend.
amatop2000 2 years ago
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I wonder what amatop believe he contradicts in my last posting, but I sure won't use much time to find out.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
lol, peanut brain.
have a nice day.....
amatop2000 2 years ago
'In Marias case it's even worse, sinse her mother must have changed Marias last name after she met Mr. Arrodondo. Maria carry a name that got absolutely NOTHING to do with her. I would have understood if she had her mother's maiden name, or her fathers name. She has had alots of time to fix this stupidity, but no. She's too stupid. What a terrible mountain of issues this family must have.'
rett skal være rett. Sopranelsker er en idiot.
ultimateone1 2 years ago 21
@ultimateone1 She maybe see "Mr. Arrodondo" as her father? Have you think about that?
ZezzyDezzy 5 months ago
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BTW, is it really that strange that a reply can lag half a year from a person who are able to provoke page up and page down of incoming replies? Yes, I used my account on a weekly basis but that doesn't mean I care to clean up my inbox regularly.
So, as you now should be able to see, it doesn't really have to be strange even though you obviously wants it to:-)
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
clean up your inbox, really? Dude, you dont need to clean your inbox to see when people send you a new message, personal message, comment.. you name it! its right infront of you, thats the first thing you see....
amatop2000 2 years ago 5
Soprane, Its the same thing over and over again. its no the first time you leave a discussion in anger. If i recall correctly you have done this on two different occasions. Of course that's because your inbox is lagging, duh.
I bet itll take you one month to come with something new and fresh and start the same bullshit over and over again. "Why cant maria call "a duck a duck".She's stupid, you're stupid, the world is stupid"
Look, its old and boring . Find something else to do, kid
amatop2000 2 years ago 5
I have like 10 replies and privat messages on a daily basis, even I can see all my incoming replies and messages........... heck you have a hotmail /gmail box where you can see all your incoming mails..... youtube will send you automate email respond from every event on your youtube account
try another excuse shithead.
ultimateone1 2 years ago 7
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Thanks for clearing that out. I guess we can cut brain transplant from the list of necessary medical procedure to cure your stupidity, or maybe you have come to realize that I have been right all along. You have had no objection to the fact that I reject children unable to call their father, father, a premisis that may be untrue in Maria's case if we should trust you. I guess we're close to agree about everything now. Assuming you're right, Maria's CD's will be taken off my ban list.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
eh,should I agree with you? You said that adoptive people who call their adoptive parents, parents... were plain stupid. Especially if they were old enough to realize they werent their bio parents. Your own words... dont try to run away from your own words...your word are written here and can be tracked. Stop lying!
You said that she needed to honor her real father, and that she was dumb for using her stepfather's last name.
amatop2000 2 years ago 4
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Is it because you're a dumb fuck that you actually believe it's disqualifying to answer a message after a certain time when time got nothing to do with the context in the debate?
Help me out here. You're obviously an interesting subject worth a study.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
its not disqualifying to answer a message after a loooooooong loooooong time LOL. Youre right.
The thing is that I find it strange that you decided to comment after all these months, yeah you heard me, almost 1/2 year!!! There have been activities on your account since then., you had the chance to reply within these 6 months of absence but instead decided to answer it 6 months later?
You should take a look at everything you wrote and be ashamed of yourself.
amatop2000 2 years ago 4
Greetings from Estonia (L)
Muusikaplaneet 2 years ago
A girl (Nikki) in The netherlands sings that song also... i like both versions cause its near the same
Lorenaschatj 2 years ago
in spanish =
vuelvo a comenzar - timbiriche
fue para los dos - edurne
2 covers and i hate the first timbiriche is shit
Juliannirzo 2 years ago
el cover de timbiriche es el mejor en español, sin duda el mas parecido a la original de maria
casda100 2 years ago
New Jan Johansen album "Minnen" featuring duet with Maria Arredondo is now released on Universal Norway. Documentary video no my channel as well as the video for the first single "Fri" [Free]. Welcome!
Janors66 2 years ago
she has a beautiful voice. the is a mexican band that sings the same song, but is in spanish, they're called timbiriche. search for them and see if you like it.
alcala6942 2 years ago
I love this song .. I keep watching it over and over again .. <3
scottspeedmangirly94 2 years ago 25
con esta cancion me he enamorado de ella.. es bellisima. timbiriche la canta tambien y suena muuy bien..
rube0075 2 years ago 3
she has such beautiful voice... 5/5
darkhaired02 2 years ago 6
her face is beautiful
just like her songs
ArinaCcc 2 years ago 3
She got a good voice and a beautiful face, so she's great on one kind... 5/5 :)
younameit11 2 years ago 4
Great song!
i like it very much!
greetings from Serbia ;)
NooleV 2 years ago 3
really brief and beautiful
smartsunzhao 2 years ago
i prefer the spanish cover ^^
Edurne - Fue para los dos
yegui07 2 years ago
Hanne Sorvaag!
pankakes105 2 years ago
Maria arredondo is BRIEF AND BEAUTIFUL!!!:D
Juggernautakog 2 years ago
Just B E A U T I F U L L ! ! ! ! !
ildefonsoconra02 2 years ago 3
I agree.
teleostomi 2 years ago
wow buena rolla la verdad en mexico la version timbiriche no le cambio nada mis respetos para maria arredondo ojala hubieran sido mas originales los de timbiriche pero no es una copia total de esta version congratulationes maria eres una exelente cantante
saludos desde Mexico city
webadictos1515 2 years ago
oyeee
yo tmb soy de mexico jeje, y ps siii es exactamente la misma pista, pero no la letra, son totalmente opuestas y en lo personal me gusta mucho mas estaaa
Betylu26 2 years ago
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I had no expectation for you to be able to use your brain to think reason with either. Good luck with your life. You will need it; all you can get.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
running out of ideas sopranelsker?
well do you read or are you plain stupid? You're the one trying to convince people with your stupid comments, dumb mind and low intelligence.
you expect people to honour rapers, killers, violent people, for what reason? cuz they planted the seed??
what do you expect me to think about you??
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
amatop2000, in fact, you do need to honour your father. Without him your life wouls not exist, and without your life it would not be possible to dishonour your father, a contradiction. Thus, to be a reasonable human being you've got no choice but to honour your father even if he used to burn you with sigarets when you were little.
I'm happy that you finally understood my very simple logic. We can conclude that even if you're a complete dumb fuck, it's still hope.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
sopranelsker: :"Thus, to be a reasonable human being you've got no choice but to honour your father even if he used to burn you with sigarets when you were little."
hahaha, here we go again.
you're plain stupid. You dont need to honour anyone you stupid dumb fucker. We dont choose our parents We didnt ask for someone to plant the seeds.
You have no choice what so ever.
you come up with stupid comments,, arent you tired of being so dumb?
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
well let me guess. You have a problems with people who dont want to honour parents who raped them, tried to kill, hated them?
I bet you do.
again this is more than obvious, they dont need to. But i your tiny brain is a must to honour parents even if they rape you.
You're a troll, with a wicked mind or low intelligence. I bet no one likes you.
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
amatop, no, I only got a problem with a child if it is consciously unable to call his father, father. And this regardless if there has been sig burning, rape, hatred or whatever you wish to list. You see, dumb fuck, those unwishful things is not relevant when the question is: who is your father.? Is this someting you find hard to grasp?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
wow I cant believe you decided to answer a after all these months. I took you nearly a 6months(1/2 year) to asnwer this question.
shows how fucking stupid you are.
amatop2000 2 years ago
No, amatop. What first of all shows stupidity in our conversation is your immature appeal to time in a subject that is not time related.
I hope for your sake you did not past 15 years of age and that your profile is false or else it would be a sad thing knowing very few people learn basic reasoning after this age. If you're indeed 30, good luck with your life. You obviously need it.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
You're the one that needs some logical sense smashed into your tiny little brain cuz you're obviously stripped of logical sense.
Talk to mr.arredondo. Don't waste my time.
amatop2000 2 years ago
As long as you are not able to show evidence to support your claim I have shown lack of logical sense you're powerless in your lose claim.
I've got nothing unspoken with Mr Arredondo, dumb f*ck. He is not included by my criticism saying every child should be able to call his/her father, father.
BTW, is it fun to be as giddy as you obviously are?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
well have fun you idiot , you're unbelievable dumb.You're "duck duck" theory is funny btw. There's no comparison between your theory and marias situation. So lay the fuck off you fool!
After all these comments you still dont get it, do you? Must have hurt you so badly that you couldnt help but "bumping" into this subject...... 1/2 year later??????... unbelievable! looooool
amatop2000 2 years ago
It's far too late in this conversation to escape the premisis which stated even before I joined that maria is unable to call her father, father. It was on top on this statement I built my reasoning. If this statement is untrue, my reasoning is still valid because I made it general for all children unable to call their father, father.
You can run, bu you can't hide, dumb fuck. I will hunt you down like a bloodhound for no other reason than I love to make fun of dumb fucks like you.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
You wouldn't have to repeat yourself if you tried harder du understand what you read. I never doubted Maria knows who is her father. Try again, dumb fuck. I love to make fun of retards like you.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
As far as Im concerned you've asked me if she knew if he was her biological father or if she was really that stupid to see him as "real" father.... short memory idiot?? Lets break it up...
-she knows he's not her bio father,
-she doesnt know her bio father,
-she calls him dad.
Get real idiot.. She's entitled to feel whatever she wants to feel. it has nothing to do with being dumb
how do you feel now you idiot?
you still dont get it, do you?
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
There is nothing in your text to support I've got short memory.
I never suggested as you assumed in your last message that Maria doesn't know who is her father. My criticism was solely about children who are not able to call their bio- father, father. In the discussion it was held as true that Maria doesn't want to call her biological father, father. I rested my conclusion on this premisis and can take no responsibility wether this is true or not.
Am I getting though to you soon, dumb fuck?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
its a fucking 1/2 year old comment ffs!!! Go back and read everything you wrote, stop being an ass.
You're the one who decided not to reply to my last comment(1/2 year ago) and then suddenly you decided(out of the blue!!!) to comment it.
amatop2000 2 years ago
You're a fucking disgrace sopranos for not being able to show some compassion for someone that never knew or never got the chance to meet his/her biological father. instead youre making fun of them for wanting to fill the emptiness..... If I recall correctly you were making fun of adoptiv people as well.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
amatop2000 2 years ago 3
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I never knew anything about Maria doesn't know her real father. This is news to me now. My first comment was a reply to a statement that said Maria does not want to call her father, father.
I'm not obligated to show any compassion for anything, so you will get nothing from your appeals to my conscience.
Getting though to you soon, dumb fuck?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
huh? who said that she didnt want to call her real father, father? I can guaranteed you that I never said that. Go back and read idiot.
Im sorry but you wont find anything, cuz that is something only you saw........ shrink??? bump*
Of course you're not obligated to show compassion, but that just prove the piece of shit you are.... this world will never work as it s supposed to and thats solely cuz of people like you. You're a disgrace.
amatop2000 2 years ago 3
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I never said this information was from you, psychotic crackpot.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
Soprano, dude. your the first comment you made was something like this:
"ill stop buying cd from this dumb girl who is not able to call a duck a duck."
it was a reply to my comment.... cuz there were some guys asking why maria had a latino name. So i told them that she got it from her stepfather. And then suddenly you start calling her dumb for not being able to call a duck a duck.
amatop2000 2 years ago 5
I believe he already stated that
Prchilena 2 years ago
No he didnt! if he did now then he wud fucking understand that there's nthing wrong with having your stepfather's last name. absolutely nothing!
There has only been 1 option left for him to prove his fucking point
And that is if "she's too stupid to realize it" Maybe then i would've agreed with him, but the thing is that she knows.
That's why I keep telling him that she does know, and he doesnt comprehend Instead he repeats the same bullshit over and over again.
What a waste of time.
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
Ok, but there's a possibility that he miight be right. Depending of the situation, say if maria decided to erased her fathers last name for no obvious reason.
have you ever thought that?
Prchilena 2 years ago
Yup, that has been discarded from the list.
She didn't know her real father, thats why she replaced the emptiness and found herself a "new father". So thats a fucking good reason. Dont you think? Whats wrong with that? please shed some light.
-she didnt know her father
-she knows arredondo is not her father
where's the problem?
btw are you sopraneslker?
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
No, Im not her! Now I understand better, sorry for my gnorance of being too lazy to read all the comments. I agree with everything you said.
Prchilena 2 years ago
I suggest you read before you open your mouth.
That's the biggest mistake people do. They are too lazy.
Anyway, apologies accepted.
amatop2000 2 years ago 3
your duck duck theory is retarded btw.... ahahaha
soprano you're a clown. 1/2 year later??? Dude after all this time???
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, you're a complete dumb fuck. That's why I have to extract my logic from my reasoning in this way for you to understand:
Not honour father + Not honour stepfather = not ok
Not honour father + honour stepfather = not ok
Honour father + honour stepfather = ok
Honour father + not honour stepfather = ok
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
1.Most people give a shit about people who should have been there for them who either left or didnt give a damn about them. Ask anyone
2. hounoring your stepfather is not a must, that's correct, but most likely you will honour him if he is a important part of your life.
you dont need to honour anyone, you can honour anyone you want.
In this case her father was never there for her, her stepfather was.
again I repeat, where's the problem?
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
"There is indeed something wrong with this girl. She's not able to call a duck a duck. A father a father and a stepfather a stepfather. Now I'm no longer confused about buying her records. I will never do. A stupid girl who are not able to honour her real father, don't deserve a single dollar of mine"
Here's the problem. This is where you started this childless discussion, and this stupid duck duck thing.
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, I'm criticising her for not being able to call her father her father and her stepfather her stepfather.
He will soon understand this.
He will soon understand this.
He will soon understand this.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
You said she needed to "honour" her real dad, then it was ok to honour her stepfather when you realized you were plain stupid.
She knows he isnt her real dad. how many times do i need to repeat this for you????
If she wants to call him dad that's her business, not your business, and thats nothing wrong with it.
Understand understand understand????
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, she can honour anyone she likes, and that might be worth something if she was able to call her father her father.
I have already given a explaination, written in a form of perfect reasoning, why I criticise her. Why the heck you ask that question now can be explained by you being extreamly dizzy or lack a brain all together.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
wow, now you're getting frustrated.
Is that the best you got?
you wrote:"I have already given a explaination, written in a form of perfect reasoning, why I criticise her"
The duck duck thing again, I see, that's the best you got? Didnt I explained in a reasonable way or are you plain stupid?
need refreshing???
she knows his stepfather is not her father
she let people know that she had a stepfather
she likes to call his stepfather "dad"
I dont know where the problem is
amatop2000 2 years ago
If she can honor anyone, then why are you criticizing her? Of course she knows that mr arredondo is not her real father.
Her real dad wasnt even there for her so a new human being stepped in and filled the emptiness in her life.
But in your tiny brain she's a "dumb fuck".
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, yes indeed I'm attacking Maria, and for the very reason you quote. What are you trying to say by repeating what everyone who can read can see to be true? Are you extreamly dizzy?
Only because I cannot find any reasonable explaination for Maria not to call her father her father doesn't make me do not want to understand Marias situation. Did you open your skull to check if there's a brain inside? You're one of those who shouldn't trust the rumours saying every human got one.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
you can not find a reasonable explanation??
Instead you criticize her.
amatop2000 2 years ago
ultimateone1, if you go back and read what I wrote you will easily find that I've got no problem with kids calling their stepfather dad. I never criticized maria for not having her real father beside her. Try to focus on what I actually write. That is if you even have the faintest clue how. If not, you're excused.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
you said she needed to honor her real dad, a dad that was never there for her. She was dumb for honoring someone else.
I hope people read this, so that they can see what a dumb, cold and evil human being you are.
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, even if it's true that her real dad was never there doesn't make him any less her father. This may come as an surprise to you, but "not being there for her" does not travel back in time and reverse that sperm from fertilize that egg, and even it that was possible, Maria wouldn't be here to exist. dahhh
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
I never said he was "any less her father". I don't know the man.
What I want to know is why she can't honor someone that has shown love kindness towards maria??
amatop2000 2 years ago
ultimateone1, I never said I know it all, dumb fuck. What I said is that I know what I know. You have not been able to show oitherwise.
Is it fun to be a dumb fuck?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
what is that ......."I know what I know"?
that doesn't make sense.
does that means
1 -you know little?
2 -you know a little, but thats what you know
3 -you know it all
let me know...
ultimateone1 2 years ago
To ultimateone1 it doesn't make sense when I frase the very essens of formallogik, which "sense" at the root is refering to. I think we are getting a clear picture to explain why ultimateone1 is writing as he does.
Where does Gov't grow dumb fucks like ultimateone1?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
you started fighting people, you talk shit about maria, you talk shit about people who got adoptive parents you talk shit about everything that you dont like even though it makes logical sense....
ultimateone1 2 years ago
ultimateone1, no, I do not talk shit about people who got adoptive parents, but about people who are not able to call their father, father and STEPfather, STEPfather.
When will you stop reading things into my text that isn't there, Psychotic Crackpot?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
you dont talk shit about people? excuse me....cough*
Do you know how many people i know that have adoptives parents here in norway? My friend has adoptive parents.... he always refers to them as "dad/mother" and not as "my adoptive parents"... in marias case its the same. the guy is her "father"....end of.
We all know he isnt..... but she refers to him as her father even thought she knows he isnt...
and there's nothing wrong with it..............
Be nice to people you dumb fuck.....
ultimateone1 2 years ago
ultimateone1, I never said I do not talk shit about people, Psychotic Crackpot. I only said I do not talk shit about people for the reason of having adoptive parents.
When will you stop reading things into my text that isn't there, Psychotic Crackpot?
You know he she calls father, is not her father, and still you attack me and not her for this confusion, Psychotic Crackpot!?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
"amatop2000, short answer: yes. That makes you stupid."
in regards to te question whether or not adoptive people are dumbpeople if they called their adoptive father.... i.e "dad" or "father"
..
your own words, read next page you dumb fuck.......
dont lie
ultimateone1 2 years ago
ultimate2000, you are misrepresenting my statements. If you look at them as a whole you should understand that also I do think it's okey to call a stepfather dad until you should be a grownup in your head. Also it should be easy to read into my text I take Maria as member of this group.
When will you stop reading things into my text that isn't there, Psychotic Crackpot?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
what a fucking liar, now its suddenly ok to call a stepfather "dad"....
What the fuck is the problem dude? I dont understand what you're trying to prove. .....
If it is ok then what's the problem.?.....
ultimateone1 2 years ago
Tenkte meg denne drittungen var fra norge.
No one is attacking you, as a matter of fact you started criticizing maria, which in my opinion, was dumb and harsh way of criticizing a human being, hence why there shouldn't be a discussion in the first place.
You're not a king, not a god, nothing. Maria is just human being, and she knows perfectly well that he is not her father, but she sees him as her own father and likes to call him "father".
You have no right to say the things you said.
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop watch?v=vKUXG6hTD1U sjekk denne
ultimateone1 2 years ago
amatop2000, du forhaster deg til konklusjon nok en gang, som den umodne drittungen du er.
Yes, you are indeed attacking, for the reason of me criticising Maria for unability to call her father, father and her stepfather, stepfather. The fact that you actually do not realise this simple fact adds confirmation you're a immature crackpot.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
sopranelsker wrote:
'In Marias case it's even worse, sinse her mother must have changed Marias last name after she met Mr. Arrodondo. Maria carry a name that got absolutely NOTHING to do with her. I would have understood if she had her mother's maiden name, or her fathers name. She has had alots of time to fix this stupidity, but no. She's too stupid. What a terrible mountain of issues this family must have.'
Here you attacked maria
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
I'm not attacking you as a matter of fact I'm trying to make you understand her situation but you don't want to. You called me idiot as well, cuz in your tiny brainI'm n just a dumb human being who is not allowed to call his grandpa "dad ".
I dont know my dad, neither did maria. Why are you attacking her?
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
"I never said I know it all, dumb fuck. What I said is that I know what I know. You have not been able to show oitherwise."
what does this mean? You know nothing? you know it all?.....
judging by your comments you know little..... there's too much shit going through your brain.
in your brain there must be something wrong with maria.....In my brain there's nothing wrong with her, a healthy brain will tell you the same.. My brain is healthy yours isnt......
ultimateone1 2 years ago
ultimateone1, is it "I know what I know" you do not understand the meaning of, Psychotic Crackpot?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
"I know what i know" means nothing really.
What is that you know?
fill me in please.....
haha
ultimateone1 2 years ago
ultimateone1, "i know what I know" got a extreamly precise meaning, more precise that most statements you hear during a day. If you do not believe me, you may ask a person you trust, who got a clue about lingvistics. Will you do just that, Psychotic Crackpot?
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
jeg vet hva jeg..... hahaha
Oh well, du vet hva du vet.
you don't know a shit.
people own you everyday, I bet no one likes you either....
the worst thing you couldve done was to try and talk shit about something as logical as i.e maria's case..
You dont know what you're talking about. You've been owned but you cant accept it......
ultimateone1 2 years ago
ultimateone1, ja, jeg vet hva jeg vet. Sikkert veldig morsomt for en umoden drittunge uten hverken predikatlogisk eller lingvistisk dannelse.
That I do not know shit, is a intersting hypotesis. Do you want to support it by a valid argument, Psychotic Crackpot?
That you actually can get yourself to write that you have owned me in this conversation only unveil how immature you are. At least in the eyes of people I consider it worthy to be thought of as a reasonable human being.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
anyway, since you said there should be a rule when its "OK" to call a stepfather/adoptive father "dad."
so here's my question
When do you reckon adoptive people should stop calling them "dad" ?
haha
ultimateone1 2 years ago
I haven't, you owned yourself you dumb fuck. how dumb are you to talk like that about maria?....
Just because she was unlucky not to have her real father standing beside her and enjoying her beauty and talent.
Now she found a "father" and you're calling her a dumb fuck?....
you're pathetic....
ultimateone1 2 years ago
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amatop2000, so you are confirming my conclusion. There is indeed something wrong with this girl. She's not able to call a duck a duck. A father a father and a stepfather a stepfather. Now I'm no longer confused about buying her records. I will never do. A stupid girl who are not able to honour her real father, don't deserve a single dollar of mine.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
you're entitled to say anything you want or do whatever you want, thats not my problem..... but i dont think that she's "stupid" as a matter of fact i think you're stupid.
there are a lot of people who never knew their real dad, does that make them "stupid"?
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
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amatop2000, my critisism about her is exclusively pointed at her unability to call her father her father and her stepfather her stepfather.
In the group {they who never knew their father} we got two subgroups {they who are able to call their father their father and their stepfather their stepfather} and {they who are not able to call their father their father and their stepfather their stepfather}
Thus, your question can not be understood as any reasonable objection to my conclusion.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
Im asking you a question, are they stupid???
My friend has a kid and that kid call him "dad" even though he's not his biological father .... is that kid stupid? I call my granpha "dad cuz I never knew my dad either, but my grandpa became my "dad" and adopted me and I got his last name. Im I stupid??
what's wrong with you!!
thats the human nature and that's nothing wrong with it.
amatop2000 2 years ago 2
amatop2000, short answer: yes. That makes you stupid.
In Marias case it's even worse, sinse her mother must have changed Marias last name after she met Mr. Arrodondo. Maria carry a name that got absolutely NOTHING to do with her. I would have understood if she had her mother's maiden name, or her fathers name. She has had alots of time to fix this stupidity, but no. She's too stupid. What a terrible mountain of issues this family must have.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
thanks for calling me stupid. Im a jackass and I suck cuz Im solely responsible and guilty for what my dad did when I was born, I'm even more stupid for letting my grandpa adopting me when i was a little kid.
guilty of being stupid.
there's nothing left to say
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, no you're not responsible for things before you were able to use your brains to think reason with. A hope would be that this was the case from you were around 12. As it seams, you have learnt to call your grandpa, grandpa, which only conclude my reasoning. The fact that you are not able to see this contradiction about yourself only tell us you're half stupid half reasonable.
Maria Arrodondo is still a dumb fuck, which is okey, only that I can't stand her type of dumb fuckness.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
lol, you're so fucking stupid, even a kid would tell you that.
Do you need explanation????? after 5 comments you still dont get it, do you???
Seriously, how old are you?
amatop2000 2 years ago
amatop2000, I didn't think you would be able to produce a valid argument to support your conclusion either, dumb fuck.
Sopranelsker 2 years ago
conclusion? theres nothing to argue about, nothing to discuss you dumb fuck.
Its pretty obvious. and when I tried to come up with something all you did was to slag me off with stupid comments.
and your stupid duck duck theory is just as dumb as you brain, cuz in this situation, in marias situation, she knows perfectly well that her stepfather is her stepfather, so the duck duck theory wont help you here.
now fuck off bitch. You're rude, evil, dumb, idiot and too fucking cold.
amatop2000 2 years ago
I suggest u shut up :P u dont know nothing
MrAntonioArredondo 2 years ago
you must be stupid.... that's F***' insane.
You must be 10 or something.
ultimateone1 2 years ago