@skydreamerXIII Then wat? a wargame test showed that russian and chinese fighters beat the shit out of f-15s in visual range. it sort of reminds me of the vietnam war and the f-4 phantom design and tactics. "we can simply sit back the blow enemies out of the sky with our mightly missile technologies"
@plutone220696 russian planes vs american planes are discussable .....but chinese? heh those planes are flying garbage the only way chinese planes are good for is for chinese propaganda.
China cant build nothing without the support of russian technology. and China even admit it. China cant complete the JXX whitout getting there hands on the russian T50 first.
and the F15SE is a whole other story than the F15E.the F15SE was already tested against Ukrainian SU27 and beated it.
Ur first point, i agreed almost exactly. Former communists help each other and China was at a really slow start in technology. Without Russian support, China is crap. Ur second point, maybe. Ur talking about Su-27, the original. What about Su-33 to -35BM? They have newer technologies such as thrust vectoring and better electronics. Also the export variant of the Su-27 is a bit different.
@skydreamerXIII Lol whatever. Su-50 is going to be the same cost as the Silent Eagle but the Su-35BM costs around 30 million more and both are not in full production yet, so they will bring a good comparison between russian and us aircraft.
this is a great looking fighter jet. also, indigenous weapons development is good for taiwan, as they can export it later or license off core technologies developped.
seems like taiwan has strong enginnering, all it it needs is nuke.
Israel & Taiwan are two different story behind. Israel with enormous resource from US,Taiwan with nothings. US blocked Israel sales to China highly sophiscated air-combact-radar & AWAC radar; of which,not US version can compete with. BUT, even blocked,proto-type delivered to China already & China can develop in long run by themself. Taiwan now, with NO any defense strategy at all, IF Tthis pro-China presidency going to FREE EVERY THINGS with China. Frankly, no need defense bueget,why bother.
Actually, Israel doesn't have it easy either. Yes, it does enjoy considerable support from the US, but other than that, even other NATO/EU allies keep Israel at arms length to avoid pissing off oil-rich Arab nations. During the Cold War, Taiwan, Israel, & South Africa were the three internal orphans that often comiserated with each other. Taiwan developed its HF-1 AShM with Israeli assistance, & may have had a joint nuclear program.
Indigenous development is the only way. The US needs money from China so it won't sell new weapons. Even with the larger costs(nobody will sell anyway), such indigenous development will enable Taiwan to establish an internationally competitive,key technology based industry infrastructure. Israel is a case in which defence related technology developments have led to international competitiveness in focused technology areas.
IF, its so good, why still have to purchase F16-C/D out from US inventory ?? Where to get the US made turbine engine ? But, most of all, where to get the Top-Gun pilot (As is in serious shortage here in Taiwan) ?? Who to guard the Air Military Base--as GOING to security-watch by privaye sector( Securicor-Like civilian security). Taiwan defense strategy is in catastrophe now. Blocked armsales to Taiwan by KMT during DPP period & NOW, suddently, KMT say, ITS A MUST. Frankly, we are in mess.
US permission for export of this plane will not be given because the Americans would prefer to sell f16 instead. This plane is really an American plane.
This new version has more powerful engines and improved avionics. The maker hopes the Taiwan airforce will buy them, but as yet no sales . US permission is needed for sales outside of Taiwan for this aircraft because it uses American engines , weapons systems.
It has purposely weak engines due to US pressure. But it has an early version of the very sophisticated firing system of the f22 raptor and has multi tracking over the horizon capabiiity.
The IDF was made with US help and is a version of the f20 tigershark that was competing for the US air force contract against the f16 and lost because the US airforce liked the engine on the f16 being the same as the ones on the f15
It is a good video but it needs to be translated. I would also want to know how much it costs. F-CK-1 seems to be a decent aircraft, that is cheaper than others (less then 20mil. USD), and many countries might want to buy it.
Taiwan HAS the technological capabilities to build indigenous weapons(including some sort of(that is ,not exactly like the mainstream) Aegis ships,tanks and subs). The problem is that the will of the leaders is not strong enough. Now the US doesn't want to sell weapons to Taiwan, mostly because of the US leaders' business interests with the CCP. If this continues, even the existing imported weapons might become unuseable in a few years.
@crakcer123 and this country made a compete mess out of this fighter production. taiwan air force is crap. just look at their missiles. (SAMs and AIMs)
The pround American F-22 contains technology developed from this advance fighter you called "a piece of shit". I guess technically that makes F-22 a piece of shit too.
This plane looks a lot like the F/A-18. Even if this fighter sucks compared 4(some)- 4.5 generation planes(excluding french), it can still kick french ass. They r sooooooo lame in fighter production and design. Y won't they stick with the Eurofighter or Tornado?
The Republic of China (R.O.C)/(Taiwan). and fucking The people's Republic of China (China)are NOT THE same country . It's Good Reason That The Republic of China (R.O.C)/(Taiwan)NEED TO CHANGE HER'S NAME
12 years and the upgrade is still waiting for approval. Last I heard was that about half of the aircraft will be upgraded if the US keeps stalling on the F-16/52 request. Problem is that the AirForce isn't interested in the upgrade, they want new aircraft, while the company proposing the upgrade, which built the original model, needs the work to stave off bankruptcy.
=口=台灣那麼小可以排進世界前數十名算不錯了拉
sssu10augu 4 months ago
要不是被老美限制戰機性能
美國到頭也是在抱中國的LP
哀
mchendelaroc 4 months ago
太重了,不利空戰
lautoumark 4 months ago
與其用幾億的半吊子的F-16去對抗老共的飛機,不如用台灣製做的後勤支援沒問題的F-CK-1咬死他們
miinduke 6 months ago 3
@miinduke ㄎㄎ說的好,我突然想到CK真正的意思是"Commie Killer"
Samurai1568 5 months ago
台灣不要再迷信外國產品拉~把外購一半的預算投入本國國防工業自主研發
hokila678 8 months ago 3
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應該繼續採購自行研發的戰機.......
brian6688w 10 months ago
應該繼續採購自行研發的戰機.......
brian6688w 10 months ago
擊落共軍之殲十易如反掌
goldfox79 1 year ago 4
要看實力打過才知道 我相信台灣技術!! 台灣一定還有人才可以研發更好的 只是時機未到
0963112438 1 year ago
台灣的戰機的發電機可以放大一倍大
台灣的戰機IDF有實力的製造出來的戰績不輸F16戰機
1014pow 1 year ago
Cool plane, Cool Taiwanese technology, cool background music (well the beginning, anyway) COOL
Voyevoda01 1 year ago
Taiwan is buying the stealth F15 silent eagle.
skydreamerXIII 2 years ago
@skydreamerXIII Then wat? a wargame test showed that russian and chinese fighters beat the shit out of f-15s in visual range. it sort of reminds me of the vietnam war and the f-4 phantom design and tactics. "we can simply sit back the blow enemies out of the sky with our mightly missile technologies"
plutone220696 1 year ago
@plutone220696 russian planes vs american planes are discussable .....but chinese? heh those planes are flying garbage the only way chinese planes are good for is for chinese propaganda.
China cant build nothing without the support of russian technology. and China even admit it. China cant complete the JXX whitout getting there hands on the russian T50 first.
and the F15SE is a whole other story than the F15E.the F15SE was already tested against Ukrainian SU27 and beated it.
skydreamerXIII 1 year ago
@skydreamerXIII
Ur first point, i agreed almost exactly. Former communists help each other and China was at a really slow start in technology. Without Russian support, China is crap. Ur second point, maybe. Ur talking about Su-27, the original. What about Su-33 to -35BM? They have newer technologies such as thrust vectoring and better electronics. Also the export variant of the Su-27 is a bit different.
plutone220696 1 year ago
@plutone220696 SU35BM Last Flanker is a good compeditor for the F15SE
the SU33 is very doubtful that plane is 20 year old technology and is getting replaced with the MIG29K anyway.
i dont know what variant of the SU27, last year the US airforce bouth 2 of them from Ukraine to use them for aggressor training.
skydreamerXIII 1 year ago
@skydreamerXIII Lol whatever. Su-50 is going to be the same cost as the Silent Eagle but the Su-35BM costs around 30 million more and both are not in full production yet, so they will bring a good comparison between russian and us aircraft.
plutone220696 1 year ago
翔昇真漂亮,J10是剽悍
b25990 2 years ago
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crakcer123 2 years ago
this is a great looking fighter jet. also, indigenous weapons development is good for taiwan, as they can export it later or license off core technologies developped.
seems like taiwan has strong enginnering, all it it needs is nuke.
downwiz2 2 years ago 5
毫無疑問~ 這是一段令國人感動的榮耀!!!
卻被個宇宙級的垃圾汙染的影片~
ytrc07 2 years ago 4
我同意,因為那宇宙級的垃圾就是你~~~
mthobart 2 years ago
Israel & Taiwan are two different story behind. Israel with enormous resource from US,Taiwan with nothings. US blocked Israel sales to China highly sophiscated air-combact-radar & AWAC radar; of which,not US version can compete with. BUT, even blocked,proto-type delivered to China already & China can develop in long run by themself. Taiwan now, with NO any defense strategy at all, IF Tthis pro-China presidency going to FREE EVERY THINGS with China. Frankly, no need defense bueget,why bother.
hank0325 2 years ago 2
@hank0325
Actually, Israel doesn't have it easy either. Yes, it does enjoy considerable support from the US, but other than that, even other NATO/EU allies keep Israel at arms length to avoid pissing off oil-rich Arab nations. During the Cold War, Taiwan, Israel, & South Africa were the three internal orphans that often comiserated with each other. Taiwan developed its HF-1 AShM with Israeli assistance, & may have had a joint nuclear program.
milvipes 1 year ago
@milvipes
*international
milvipes 1 year ago
Indigenous development is the only way. The US needs money from China so it won't sell new weapons. Even with the larger costs(nobody will sell anyway), such indigenous development will enable Taiwan to establish an internationally competitive,key technology based industry infrastructure. Israel is a case in which defence related technology developments have led to international competitiveness in focused technology areas.
xxwzaebd 2 years ago 2
IF, its so good, why still have to purchase F16-C/D out from US inventory ?? Where to get the US made turbine engine ? But, most of all, where to get the Top-Gun pilot (As is in serious shortage here in Taiwan) ?? Who to guard the Air Military Base--as GOING to security-watch by privaye sector( Securicor-Like civilian security). Taiwan defense strategy is in catastrophe now. Blocked armsales to Taiwan by KMT during DPP period & NOW, suddently, KMT say, ITS A MUST. Frankly, we are in mess.
hank0325 2 years ago
your joking rghit f-ck1 shit... no way
yairbe5 2 years ago
Taiwan should produce F-CK-1 C/D . China has the J-10 and now they are upgrading it to J-10B, a more capable air combat plane. Good on you Taiwan.
0ct0ct09 2 years ago
這台戰機有人知道主要功能是啥嗎 能裝什麼飛彈上去
rko159963 2 years ago
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crakcer123 2 years ago
天劍一型飛彈、天劍二型飛彈、AIM-9
MK20集束炸彈
MK-82SE蛇眼延遲引信炸彈
2000磅炸彈、750磅M117炸彈
GBU-10.12.24鋪路式二型雷射導引炸彈(無導引裝置,需藉由僚機輔助導引或外掛筴艙)
LAU-60火箭莢艙/2.75 in對地火箭、LAU-69火箭莢艙/19枚68 mm對地火箭
空射型雄風二型反艦飛彈
天劍二A型反輻射飛彈
青雲彈、萬箭彈
dddd1104 2 years ago
老蒋的政绩吧
azdashan 2 years ago
This plane is the Proud of the ROC/Taiwan Air Force.
anders88 2 years ago
骄傲!亚洲第一架三代机是中国人造出来的!
snowofsoviet 3 years ago
haha.
It is made by Taiwanese for sure !
Against Chinese are the this plane's mission.
PeterSu1982 3 years ago
@snowofsoviet 誰跟你們講我們是支那人了
laiwenshan 3 months ago
ROC = Country on the run!
KMT = Government on the run!
ROC is in Taiwan. KMT is in Taiwan.
Taiwan has never been a part of both ROC or PRC.
ROC established in 1911
PRC established in 1949
Taiwan was part of Japan 1895~1945
WW2 1939~1945
stop making a fool out of yourself, you chinese slave!
KakimotoRift 3 years ago
PRC
Government = Dictatorial, fascist regime
GDP/Capita = 3,174, rank 104/178
ROC
government = Democratic, capitalist
GDP/Capita = 17,155, rank = 41
Beliserius1 2 years ago
This aint fucking american jet plane ok.
Because of Taiwan's Political situation, buying jets from the USA have always been rejected by the opposition party KMT.
This is the Taiwan self made Jet Plane.
KakimotoRift 3 years ago 2
you liar. It was KMT plan to make ROC self-made Jet. You retarded.
Nazi1943 3 years ago
if that is so then use money from china! don't use our money you chinese dog!
chinese community holds about 10% of Taiwan's population you fool!
KakimotoRift 3 years ago
This was a joint project between USA and Taiwan, as Sales of military aircraft by the US was banned by PRC.
Beliserius1 2 years ago
US permission for export of this plane will not be given because the Americans would prefer to sell f16 instead. This plane is really an American plane.
badboyblue99 3 years ago
This new version has more powerful engines and improved avionics. The maker hopes the Taiwan airforce will buy them, but as yet no sales . US permission is needed for sales outside of Taiwan for this aircraft because it uses American engines , weapons systems.
badboyblue99 3 years ago
It has purposely weak engines due to US pressure. But it has an early version of the very sophisticated firing system of the f22 raptor and has multi tracking over the horizon capabiiity.
badboyblue99 3 years ago
The IDF was made with US help and is a version of the f20 tigershark that was competing for the US air force contract against the f16 and lost because the US airforce liked the engine on the f16 being the same as the ones on the f15
badboyblue99 3 years ago
我認為引擎方面 真的很可惜
if we can inprove our engine technique
the IDF can be a powerful fighter
rainbowae86 3 years ago 6
It is a good video but it needs to be translated. I would also want to know how much it costs. F-CK-1 seems to be a decent aircraft, that is cheaper than others (less then 20mil. USD), and many countries might want to buy it.
mladen225 3 years ago
Taiwan HAS the technological capabilities to build indigenous weapons(including some sort of(that is ,not exactly like the mainstream) Aegis ships,tanks and subs). The problem is that the will of the leaders is not strong enough. Now the US doesn't want to sell weapons to Taiwan, mostly because of the US leaders' business interests with the CCP. If this continues, even the existing imported weapons might become unuseable in a few years.
xxwzaebd 3 years ago
已經不錯了,世界上能自製戰機的國家了了無幾,也不超過20國吧
crakcer123 3 years ago 20
@crakcer123 and this country made a compete mess out of this fighter production. taiwan air force is crap. just look at their missiles. (SAMs and AIMs)
plutone220696 1 year ago
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That thing looks like a piece of shit, but I like Taiwan.
jlarpi 3 years ago
The pround American F-22 contains technology developed from this advance fighter you called "a piece of shit". I guess technically that makes F-22 a piece of shit too.
Pikaangelus 3 years ago
What technology? Cite your information.
jlarpi 3 years ago
太可惜了,我們只差引擎技術,不然一定可以造出中長程高性能戰機。
不會輸法國戰機的性能。
PeterSu1982 3 years ago 20
@PeterSu1982
This plane looks a lot like the F/A-18. Even if this fighter sucks compared 4(some)- 4.5 generation planes(excluding french), it can still kick french ass. They r sooooooo lame in fighter production and design. Y won't they stick with the Eurofighter or Tornado?
plutone220696 1 year ago
@plutone220696
Cause we developed this air-craft with USA technical support...
catisgod 6 months ago
@catisgod Which makes it more of a phony F-18 than an aircraft in itself......
Btw Hornets aren't really that good, and are far inferior to Su-27 variants
plutone220696 2 months ago
TALK ABOUT GHETTO RIGGED....
put in AMD 64bit chip, put some LCD panel, pulg in two "piggy back fuel tank"
WTG!!!!
gmrwawa 3 years ago
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The Republic of China (R.O.C)/(Taiwan). and fucking The people's Republic of China (China)are NOT THE same country . It's Good Reason That The Republic of China (R.O.C)/(Taiwan)NEED TO CHANGE HER'S NAME
hokila678 3 years ago 4
You know, now Ma Ying-Jiu is the president of the ROC, I don't think the ROC will continue the R&D of indigenous weapons and vehicles.
ragabara 3 years ago 3
12 years and the upgrade is still waiting for approval. Last I heard was that about half of the aircraft will be upgraded if the US keeps stalling on the F-16/52 request. Problem is that the AirForce isn't interested in the upgrade, they want new aircraft, while the company proposing the upgrade, which built the original model, needs the work to stave off bankruptcy.
EnigmaNZ1 3 years ago
Someone out there must be able to translate this. Please do! It's a good video and I'd love to get some more info on this aircraft.
admiralnomad 4 years ago
lousy music.....
too soft....
dumbird2 4 years ago
正點兒!
whyseewhy59 4 years ago 3