The Turning Point - Indonesia

[dodikobull]

Ada gw cuuuy

[sk8yuu]

@maomao667

you are really stupid. we dont need people like you to exist in this world. This world is getting fucked cos of ppl like you. you are a disgrace. go move somewhere else, like mars.

[karelin11]

@sk8yuu Watch my videos about indonesia and see these are the results of indonesian's stupidity and repression against papuans!

[wastaification]

dalam peristiwa ini sebenar'a mahasiswa hanya jadi korban atas pembagian kekuasaan bagi mereka ( pasti lo smua tahu kan yg gwe maksud )....

[2551bali]

TRISAKTI 1998 = same M.O. as BANGKOK 2010 ( Red Shirts)

conclusion: you can not fight with bare hands against GUNS !!

use intelligent method like Internet and copy Wikileaks, the ELITE

can NOT stand TRUTH exposure and will use power to suppress !!

[henrysinaga]

@2551bali this was 1998, widespread internet use is soooo 3 years away :P

[2551bali]

@henrysinaga ...... it's up to the Young People of Indonesia to use IT knowledge

and transform the future, if not for themselves at least do it for their children.

Wikileaks & Indoleaks hopefully will show the way ; EXPOSING the tentacles of the

octopus that ruled for 30 yrs ( 1968 - 1998 ). The money stolen and stashed in

NUMBERED ACCOUNTS outside - should be returned to the PEOPLE !!

If : Internet, Phone lines are blocked use IRIDIUM system. Good Luck !!

[2551bali]

Lesson from history & Wikileaks : .. you can NOT win against GUNS (used

by police,military,security/speci­al forces). The ELITE always win & stay in

power !! The color of banner will change but the fundamentals is the same.

The elite will use the power of the OCTOPUS to CONTROL everything.

Money, Power, Information. They use divide & conquer to control pribumi,

chinese,kristen.buddhist,the poor,etc. . they let you fight each other so they

can keep control of the masses. Things never change !

[Hugoleewx]

ur gov suck same as my... :P

[pionisgood]

forget tha past....and keep moving forward....every country in this world has thaie own history and tragedy....so whats the problem ...just forget it and keep moving!!

[Geordovanda]

fuck you police !!!! fucking bastard

[PeachEyes2]

Jeez I was only four or six when this was happening... (I'm glad that Suharto's gone!) I still have memories where my mom tells me not to say his name out loud in public...

[bildoz]

what i dont understand is why the indonesians started targeting the chinese

[megatown]

Hitler was no christian, but abused of the LORD his name just as the pedophile Barbar it did. They all and you all their followers go straight to hell. So be happy guys that is gonna by very funny down there...

[shametospeak]

Ｈｅｈｅ．　Ｂｅａｔ　ｔｈｏｓｅ　Ｉｄｏ

[PermenAsem]

Indonesia has imporved a lot, especially politically and economically. Too bad the extremists are trying to destroy all that progress...

[bsagitta]

megawati ngomong ooppppoooooo.......

[megatown]

'Mohammed knew that most people are terribly cowardly and stupid. That is why he promised two beautiful women to every courageous warrior who dies in battle. This is the kind of language a soldier understands. When he believes that he will be welcomed in this manner in the afterlife, he will be willing to give his life, he will be enthousiastic about going to battle and not fear death...'

[Heinrich Himmler, Reichsführer SS]

[surferjakarta]

bad people that short preman doing rob, not all poor people, some poor people is nice people.. but that what desire pressure of economy, as preman that bad criminaly that be threat for around.. thanks.

[surferjakarta]

but... preman (poor people not rich want to rob people) to join that crowed students & people in the city, they preman to rape/kill chinese.. not students or not muslim but a few PREMAN as "criminaly-rob/very bad".. that's big problem.. but not many that raped or killed, not what news told to the world that a lot chinese being killed/raped.that is BULSHIT, that provokating the chinese join to hate unquilty people like that.. stop thinking not not.. looking and awake that facts what happened ok??

[surferjakarta]

chronological : that riot because many students died being shot real bullet from cops.. so angry being spread to people in around want to stop bad cops. students been pushed & catched by cops, run to the city.. people many join to students..

[megatown]

I do not understand how can a muslim make moral apostle/s with a stoneage pedophile instinct driven barbars hatred scripture in your hands, teaching hate, violence, license for killing and murdering, stoning, discriminating, subjugating, the source of endless unspeakable barbarities around the globe since one and half millennium, what a sick disgusting satanic staff. STOP IT !!

[scorpioninpink]

.,qur'an doesn't teach that!!! its those terrorist who do that and those who are hungry to have a grip on power!!!

[megatown]

so your pedophile barbar and warlard had no grip on power ???

This is what you want to say?

Commone you are one pack of untoppable hipocrites, this all is sooooo disgusting from A to Z

[scorpioninpink]

really??? then why does torquemada of spain a catholic killed a lot of jews and muslim during the spanish inquisition... Why does Hitler, a registered christian almost massacre the population of jews in europe!!! Those muslim just wanted to attain justice from those of you who see us as an inferior race/religion!!! if you are not a catholic then tell me what your religion is and i'll tell you who you are!!!

[rowifm]

This is Reformation,not revolution. Revolution was be held on 1945-1966

[takikoa]

indonesia student are fuck up

[nartoelek]

The masses should gone mad not on the street where other people could get hurt...absolutely unorganize rebellion. I think there will be less people died if they r prepare n not just blindly destroying everything

[humbleknees]

FUCK THEM! they didnt even know what they're duin at that time! ask them bout why they want Soeharto to resign, maybe they'll just scratch their head, dunno what to say.. and just say "revenge revenge!" haha.. you guys are funny as hell.. and yes these are the faces of INDONESIA.. up until now.. SALUTE to Wimar Witular.. stayed wise and played save..

[pe2ds]

It's good to play save and act wise but please think about what will happen to our country if everyone is doing nothing??... I agree that most of the people who joined the "fight" didn't have a clue what they were doing but the "think tankers" of these movement had great ideas about the new era of Indonesia.. Too bad the people they entitled their trust to were disappointing !!.. I just hope that someday, Indonesia will have a solid government who think about what the people's needs...

[sastrodiwiryo]

lol megawati ngomong apa sih?

[honestindoman]

May 1998.

US didn't need Soeharto anymore

because he turned to be authoritarian

[r45tisns7]

benar dan nggak juga..US didn't need Soeharto anymore not because he turned authoritarian..hell no!! US dont give a damn about it

[turdtrousers]

Memang Mas.

[aguswj0408]

6 students?? BIG DEAL!!

Now count the dead bodies of raped and murdered chinese!!

[Neutron1980]

4 of these student are believed to be Chinese descent too..

Trisakti is among some of the private university in Indonesia attendend by the Chinese Indonesians

[aryowailangitoyo97]

@aguswj0408 chinese just DIE!

[bistokna70]

@aguswj0408 Yeah? Do you know? Many CINA are still looking for witness who would testify for those so claimed murdered. C'mon tell us.

[tornraw]

@aguswj0408 it's not about that it's about how it started and it did mention the 500 dead.

[yuskaisme]

it's the exclusive culture of the chinese that may have lit the fire against the chinese community. I'm not saying murder and rape is justified. Also consider who took advantage of the corrupt prone govt? your answer: chinese mafia kingpins, still thriving out there right now. No SARA, just pointing out what turned the people on the streets back then against the chinese, what they thought, that's all.

[Baby22Budha]

@aguswj0408 fuck the chinese mother fucker... chindos are hated

[maomao667]

@Baby22Budha

The tsunami in 2004 is just a beginning to you Indonesian pigs. I am praying more.

Plus, don't forget volcano eruption.

[Baby22Budha]

@maomao667 then your saying prayers to the devil i say :P i hope mao mao, you can see... cz judging by your name god punnished you with shoe laced size eyes

[maomao667]

@Baby22Budha

Indonesia deserves that. No one feels sorry for you indonesians.

[Silvoleon]

@maomao667 that's very ignorant of you. not all indonesians are bad.

[Uranggokil]

@aguswj0408 hundreds I guess? BIG DEAL!! and now let's count the poverty in which are suffered Pribumis by Chinese!!! :D

[bima1979ol]

@aguswj0408 well the death of those 6 students which caused the riot. Riot is riot !!

[TokyoMetal777]

@aguswj0408 ...now count the number of raped and murdered Chinese by your own government (The Great Leap forward). Your greatest enemy, is not a foreign one, it never has been.

[gadogado123]

Long live Indonesian students! Long live democracy!

[indonesiaforlife]

indonesia is better under suharto. now thanks to the students indonesia ppl live harder than be4 but they asked for it tho

[Arrakhis]

masalahnya p harto g bisa ngontrol teman2nya yg nusuk dia dr belakang y sekarang sebagian besar lari ke Malay ama Singapore =(

[jimmy7lin]

why's the one who speak indonesian didn't get subtitle? U know what? i really doubt this news realness. What why now it added on youtube? it already 10 years..

[Toushiro1010]

It's real alright, painfully real.

[henri2013]

this is alternative journalist...

[simbahlagibrai]

Indonesia now is GOOD,.remember that

[tititkupepe]

GOOD...VERY VERY GOOd

BBM naik GOOD

[ecaeci]

indulf:

UR comments were relevan enough,There was a Big Game and the students only tools for Indonesia politicians, Capilalist and military to make them more richer and powerfull.

[indonesiaforlife]

ayayaya. indonesia is so uncivilized. im so ashamed to be indonesian

[gadogado123]

and your username says otherwise.. make up your mind!

[bettersinaga12]

from my point of view, both sides making the mistake. Student shouldnt create this demonstration there should be another way to solve this problem without having blood dripped from their bodies. Also the government should allow student to express their voices and point of views

Anyway thats my opinion =)

[cpeiting]

mistaken? this word, shouldn't be use in the group of "animal" that do not have civilization...acting like an animal...

[missileijahannock]

u malaysian cunt... this is a demonstration from the indonesian youngsters to build a new indonesia.. animals, at least we fight for something, u were given ur indpendence.... if u

[MachinaSapien]

why dont they do this in america?

[dedonoer]

hope this tragedy never happen again ever..!!!

God Bless Indonesia

[bistokna70]

@dedonoer It's still happening... in CHINA! The Chinese government known for this so called population control. In fact, Chinese couples often kill their baby girl because they want to have a baby boy. It's true!

[k1ller2one]

@dedonoer bless yea..

[horohito]

Indonesia is not dumb, it was just mistaken. But now Indonesia with the new president does a significant progress in both economy and human right. Its economy now is the biggest in the south East Asia region. In 2006 the GDP economy is in the rank 15th in the world, it is very big. Besides, a lot of corrupt state officials are sent to jail now. in additional, Indonesia is the 3rd biggest democracy country in the world now

[erihoyahoya]

god bless you indonesia

[indulf]

Father Sandyawan Sumardi, a 40-year-old Jesuit priest and son of a police chief, led an independent investigation into the events of May 1998. As a member of the Team of Volunteers for Humanitarian Causes he interviewed people who had witnessed the alleged involvement of the military in organising the riots and rapes.

[indulf]

The American Defence Secretary, William Cohen, was in Jakarta in January 1998 and he visited both General Prabowo and General Wiranto. The CIA chief had also been a recent visitor to Jakarta. The CIA and the Pentagon were close to both Prabowo and Wiranto.

[indulf]

The events of May 1998 appear to have been orchestrated by the CIA and elements of the Indonesian military. Indonesia is now run by an American trained general who used to work for Suharto. Evidence suggests the riots were organised by the military.

[indulf]

A security officer alleged that Kopassus (special forces) officers had ordered the burning down of a bank; a taxi driver reported hearing a man in a military helicopter encouraging people on the ground to carry out looting; shop-owners at a Plaza claimed that, before the riots, military officers tried to extract protection money;

[indulf]

a teenager claimed he and thousands of others had been trained as protesters; a street child alleged that Kopassus officers ordered him and and his friends to become rioters; there was a report of soldiers being dressed up as students and then taking part in rioting; eyewitnesses spoke of muscular men with short haircuts arriving in military-style trucks and directing attacks on Chinese homes and businesses.

[indulf]

There were reports of children being encouraged to enter malls and then of the malls being set on fire; there were allegations that muscular men with short haircuts had gang-raped little Chinese girls and then murdered some of them.