How to be Goth

[zamoiG]

First song: Xmal deutschland - hand in hand

[CherryBear161]

I have two questions: What's the name of the first song and what does it say at 4:48?

[luckyz2099]

heh heh... I was so hopping for something like this to happen. yes i spelled hoping wrong and I'm too lazy to fix it so deal with it

[thisisthejohnshow]

@Forestmountains1 "underground" not really. maybe Sub-mainstream, but not underground.

[thisisthejohnshow]

"Stop searching for How to be goth videos, because they are there for poseurs"

So basically anyone who watches this video? (also good on ya for using "poseur" instead of "poser")

"Darkwave and Post-Punk are different genres, but it's accepted in the goth subculture as well..." I always thought Post-Punk was much broader genre, that included goth, and new wave as well. (darkwave being a mix of goth and new wave) also (3:19) that song makes me orgasm everytime.

[Kalirus1234567]

You people are arguing over being a poseur? Real goths do whatever the fuck they want. Just because someone likes Marilyn Manson doesn't mean they are a poseur, but thinking that Manson is goth, and liking him only for that reason is poseur.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@Kalirus1234567 liking anyone just because the group is labeled as "goth" is a poseur move I think.

[daisaigai7]

Other people think Marilyn Manson is Goth. Most Manson fans are Mallgoths. So what? To hell with them. But Cybers act in the same way. They think they're Goths, but they know nothing about the history. They're nothing more than rubber trees with a bad taste in fashion and music.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@daisaigai7 I enjoy cyber culture, and I enjoy goth culture. I'm a raver as well. All I care about is the music though, so for all I'm concerned this started with Bauhaus

[xxxXnIGHTSHADE]

@Forestmountains1

Oh fuck, I see what you were getting at. XD I forgot to include that in my little mini rant there, didn't I? Whoops XD

[xxxXnIGHTSHADE]

@Forestmountains1

Was that really necessary? I'm not stupid. And my statement is true. Sure, you have to like the music, but you can dress however the fuck you want. That's my only point.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@xxxXnIGHTSHADE the music is the most important part of it, none of you are 14th century goths, none of you are dressing yourselves after the 14th century goths. THe most gothic piece of clothing I own is a black "Kenneth cole" jacket, and an "Eraser Head" t-shirt

[xxxXnIGHTSHADE]

GUYS. STFU. Don't tell her she's wrong, because if that's true, then you're just as wrong as she is. There are no rules! You do what you like because it's YOUR OPINION. This video, is her opinion. A poseur is someone who thinks that their way is the only way, when in fact it's not. There are over 170 different kinds of goth. Good day ;P

[SWEVampireSWE]

Name of song?

[Chaochao16]

@MegaVideogamemaster1 wtf how is that goth? this video shows what goth really is! I don't really like the 80's music (although I do like some of the songs by the sisters of mercy), so I listen to darkwave. that, my friend, is goth. I bet you won't be goth for long, you poseur! I, on the other hand, will be goth forever! I love being goth :D

[thisisthejohnshow]

@Chaochao16 most darkwave was in the 80's... (Fucking "Joy Division broski)

[MegaVideogamemaster1]

ok im sorry but i am goth and everybody has wrong information even you dumbass goth is stuff like godsmack and system of a down and u wear black stuff i wear black clothes but i also look like a skater and also yes i do wear plack eye shadow and nailpolish u sir have wrong information again dumbass

[zombiezest1334]

@MegaVideogamemaster1 I hope you're trolling rather then being an idiot. To be a goth you have to listen to goth music, Goth music is an actual genre, as metal is an actual genre. Forestmountains1 has made a legit goth video above, if you want to be a goth listen to goth music or gtfo and go be a stupid metal head.

[jazminekill]

@MegaVideogamemaster1

You poser. Your don't know shit all the real metalheads would laugh at you too for liking that shit! Mall Goth!! Not only a disgrace to Goths but a ture disgrace to Metalheads as well.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@jazminekill what's wrong with going to the mall exactly? They have a starbucks and a Cinnabon, and an Arby's. also "Past and Presents" is a cool store.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@MegaVideogamemaster1 you best be trollin' son.

[chouchter]

What songs are in the video?

[GothicBerryBella]

@Forestmountains1

I recommend "Orient" "Polarlicht" " Mondlicht" and "Incubus Succubus" Some of my personal favorites. :)

[jazminekill]

@Forestmountains1

Not real Goth is a darker pop, how close post-disco and goth are together. Now, people who think Slipknot, HIM, and Nightwish are Goth are posers.

[jazminekill]

@jazminekill

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I hate the kids who think Nu Metal is Goth.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@jazminekill I hate kids who like numetal period.

[jazminekill]

The posers think that Goth is HIM, Slipknot, and Nightwish, they listen to Nu Metal and truly believe their Goth. 

[jazminekill]

This is so true, even some of Michael Jackson's old stuff was Goth, Goth has a 'missing link' between disco and punk in music.

[GothicBerryBella]

@jazminekill

I haven't really heard the old stuff from Michael, but I should do more research, thanks a lot for posting it, now I'm curious bout it, could you tell me few songs to guide me? I would appreciate it :)

[Forestmountains1]

You can try Bad, Billy Jean, Beat it, Thriller :).

[thisisthejohnshow]

@jazminekill wat?!

[DetectiveInsaneL]

Thank you for posting this!!!

I hate it when people say "emo music" is goth and marilyn manson, and slipknot is goth. And they have no idea who the original goth bands are. Thank you for posting this, I love it!!

[OnyxxRayne]

I get tired of those videos too. My sister looks them up and tells me to watch them and I can't stand them because they're so stupid. I know, people are trying to be funny, but the REAL goths are NOT laughing.

[SuperStarlight97]

@Forestmountains1 Ok thanks. Well , whatever I am (lol jk) no one likes me.

[SuperStarlight97]

Ok , so I know this is going to sound , bad and like a wannabe , but I am going to come out and say it. Recently I have been experiementing with personalities. "Goth" fits me the best. Well now everyone thinks I am evil , and I am a devil-worshipper , and I won't live with it. I am who I am. Any advice. BECAUSE I AM NOT , I REPEAT NOT A DEVIL WORSHIPPER!!!!

[TiahGothGirl96]

@SuperStarlight97 lol same here ive been goth,emo,scene,vamp NOTHING WORKS except goth, some ppl says its a phase... well mines not haha and i agree with you... no evil,no devil worshipping,not all bout dark and shit,not bout metal nd not bout hot fucking topic -.- x

[JustinOsbo]

Well honestly you can't be it without being a fan to it.

Dressing in hot topic clothing isn't what makes you a poseur; it's claiming to be it without having a devoted interested for it.

[TiahGothGirl96]

@JustinOsbo Yes, i agree with you,i like to be goth, its who i am, and i know its not just bout dressing like hot topic makes you a poseur.... i should of included what you said xD

[JustinOsbo]

lol Honestly, Alot of poseurs get it all wrong when thinking not shopping at hot topic for some how is going to qualify. Really, it doesn't matter what you wear, as long as your a fan, and have a good understanding of the goth subculture. ;)

[gotthkid2]

@JustinOsbo i know! i meen hot topic has fishnets and those are goth clothes....... and theirs no rules to beying a real goth anyways.a store cant make u a poser...i meen its just a store if it has gothic items then ITS YOUR STYLE end of story....( reaL GOTHS) as people call them......use to even shop their so its no difrent now

[Forestmountains1]

@gotthkid2  Grammar, Please!

[thisisthejohnshow]

@TiahGothGirl96 lol "vamp"

[TiahGothGirl96]

@thisisthejohnshow lol wth

[xxxXnIGHTSHADE]

@SuperStarlight97

Then you're doing something wrong. The only time people will think you're a devil worshiper is if you dress like a whore, act badly in public while dressing however, or carrying around pentagrams. That last one seems to offend people :P

[thisisthejohnshow]

@xxxXnIGHTSHADE if you carry around pentagrams people will think you're a mall devil worshiper. (AKA an "Satanist") If Crowley ever found out what Anton was up to, he'd punch him right in the face.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@SuperStarlight97 goth is just music, anything else is extra. Just be yourself is my best advice. Also the gothic fashion style screams outsider on purpose. It's an outsider genre, it's an outside fashion.

[jajsjajshjsdfh]

I like goth but this is a shit

[daisaigai7]

Very good video clip. But all the Cybers, Moshkids and Mallgoths will hate you for this, because they can't accept the truth.

[jazminekill]

@daisaigai7

I hate the Mall Goths, but Cybers are OK:)

[daisaigai7]

@jazminekill

Cybers are much shittier. They're nothing more than Ravers. They listen to Tekkno Rave shit and call it "Industrial". Their whole fashion style looks like Christmas tree decorations.

[jazminekill]

@daisaigai7

No Mall Goths are so much WORSE than Cybers, Cybers are actually fun people to be around. Mall Goths piss me off, they did no study on the couture, and don't really care about that. They think band like Slipknot, Korn, Nightwish, Evanescence, and HIM are Goth. They act like they have a shitty life, but their parents give them all this money to spend at Hot Topic.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@jazminekill "Nightwish" is the only good band out of that list. Also mass generalizing.

[thisisthejohnshow]

@daisaigai7 You don't understand what "Post industrial" is, do you? Or how music evolves. Throbbing Gristle evolved into techno rave shit. Deal with it.

[daisaigai7]

@thisisthejohnshow

Throbbing Gristle was dead in 1981. And yes, i know Post-Industrial music. Techno has a shit to do with Post-Industrial.

[OnlineMallGalz]

love it

[truefreak131]

almost every so called goth nowadays are in fact posers. but i would like to point out something you do not have to dress in all black to be goth as long as your a fan of the music and have an understanding of the culture and lifestyle.

[truefreak131]

well done well done indeed.

[AkumaXKami]

Siouxsie is gorgeous, ne?

[thisisthejohnshow]

@AkumaXKami I would say one of the greatest artists of the last 40 years. Listen to a song like "Isreal" and try not to shit yourself. 

[CorvusKorax17]

The Music is definetly right on, Sad really...all these pretten wannabe emo poser Goths claim that manson is real goth music. Idiots im not against manson but it just really anoyys me seeing dumbasses ruining My beloved goth Subculutre. Nice vid by the way Beautifull Pic at 1:50.