If I have a violin. And you have a violin. And I have a bow, there it is, that's a bow. Are you watching? And my bow reaches acrooooooooss the room, and starts to play your violin, I PLAY YOUR VIOLIN!!! I PLAY IT UP!!!
Milstein has always been my favorite.I often traveled far to hear him during his prime andI was NEVER disappointed. His tone in concert was anything but "compact". In recordings, he played intimately with the orchestra, projecting when needed, and I'm sure that he was responsible for this record engineering. However, in the concert hall, he was gigantic - one of the most athletic figures on stage! I remember Beethoven, Tchaikowski, and Prokofiev #1 in particular. He was "The Master Violinist".
There is a deep connection between Brahms and Milstein,Heifetz et al.They were both taught by Auer,who was himself taught by Joachim-Brahms' great friend.
intheknow7: Oistrakh, Grumiaux are two you might be interested in? There is a good upload of Grumiaux playing the Bach Violin Sonatas and Partitas on here somewhere.
Fellow UTubers: Can u recommend other violinists on the level of Heifetz, Milstein, Issac Stern or Yitzchak Perlman? Trying to broaden my tastes - easy to get locked into favs.
Ilya Kaler, Arthur Grumiaux, Henryk Szering, David Oistrakh, Zino Francesccati, Gil Shaham, Vadim Repin, Boris Goldstein, Yuri Bashmet (the best viola player in the hole world everyone should hear him..)
To greenrate, Unless I am misunderstanding your point, your opinion seems to generate the question of who decides what that specific effect is, and in that case we are back to the idea that there are many ways to play a particular work, as each performer would tend to believe that he or she has found that one right way to play it.
This may have been already answered--I don't want to look at all 143 comments!--but when was this done and what orchestra and conductor is performing?
Milstein is very sharp here. Like him or not, he is a great violinist at the top of his game on this evening.
My father, as I think I wrote in a previous comment, was a violinist in one of the great symphony orchestras during the era of Milstein, Heifetz etc. He admired all the great violinists. His teacher was friends with Milstein so he got to hear him close up. As others have reported, it was an astonishing experience!
Although my father did not agree with all of Heifetz's interpretations, he, as well as other members of the symphony, greatly admired him.
It's silly to get into arguments about who was the greatest violinist. This is not sports where records can be set and broken. The pianist Artur Rubinstein once said it is silly to look for one best pianist. This certainly applies to violinists as well. And to totally dismiss the work of Heifetz, or anyone else who has achieved such mastery of an instrument, strikes me as ridiculous. My father was a violinist in a major symphony during this era and admired all the great artists of the time.
Well said--there may be some whose playing might speak to our hearts a little more than the other but I can appreciate something about all of the great Masters--each of them seem to possess a special quality.
Thanks for the compliment. The documentary "The Art of the Violin" makes the point that one of the distinguishing qualities of the violinists of the 20th century is how differently they played from each other. Perlman states that "no two sounded alike; they were all individuals" and Gitless (sorry for the spelling) makes the larger point that if there is only one way to interpret a musical work it must be a poorly written piece to begin with.
It also speaks highly of an individuals intelligence and open mindness--can you appreciate different techniques according to schools or that person's may have adapted according to body type? This is simply INTERESTING...it's also interesting to listen to each one's different violin tones, whose violin do they have and how does it compare with the past owner, their musicality--so many interesting things to listen and watch for--only limited people would not "get" this.
Hmmm. Sorry, but my experience is just the opposite -- that a piece of music is "well written" precisely to the extent that it has one specific effect (however sophisticated) that it BEST elicits in the experience of the listener.
You might be able to "interpret" it to convey other effects . . . but they'll pale in comparison to the ONE essential effect that the piece BEST evokes.
Different performances are either more or less successful in evoking that specific effect . . .
where the hell does money come into this? and all you're doing is stating your opinion, and i don't know how you will get anywhere in life if you expect everyone to listen to someone insult them. god, your name sure as hell describes you well
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EXCUSE ME VIOLINGURL.
who was YOUR teacher??
i believe i know him best out of all of you here except maybe, my teacher, who was his best and loved student. Milstein is the best alright!! Heifetz, psh! if u actualyl listen to milstein's music, ull find that milstein is actual quite ahead of heifetz musically AND technically, which in other words, is TECHNICALLY, because being able to play music is a TECHNIQUE, for all you people who don't know that yet. most people get this concept wrong.
I have yet to hear this movement better played by any other violinist on "record." Note his spiccati and subsequent runs beginning at 1:00...executed simply superbly!
I know about Milstein's stage fright for a fact--his piano accompanist of 20 years told me so many years ago. But that only makes him greater in my eyes. He overcame this, as many great artists do, and still became a legend.
I don't know...I look at how relaxed he is standing there. He puts his violin down and then literally seconds before a major run down he puts it up casually as if it is nothing. He doesn't appear anxious at all. It is known he was not interested in the trappings of fame, he didn't want the publicity "machine"--he just wanted to play. He was also known for his great humility, kindness and sense of humor..and a brilliant mind.
guys need help.we finished the 4 seasons by Antonio Vivaldi,and i want to play bach conciertos..but i dont know wat website,and wer to find it,can u pls help me
Terrific playing. Did you know that Milstein had frightful stage fright and he often literally had to be pushed onto the stage. I know this firsthand from a pianist who toured with him for decades. Also, among musicians and those who heard him live the only complaint--and it was universal--was that Milstein had an imaculate but rather compact tone. Heifetz and others could be heard far better in concerto appearances. I adore his playing, but thought these facts might be of interest.
Milstein didn't have to push the envelope. Milstein was a born violinist, Heifetz was a made violinist. It is only by sheer luck that Heifetz outshined Milstein.
@ipmoic: About his tone and projection: As far as I know he sticked to gut strings all his life, wich was in this case Pirastro Eudoxa. This string is most beautiful in sound, but very hard to hold in tune and not very strong in projection. But Milstein did always know what he wants without compromise: He chose quality over projection. I think this may be also a reason why he had problems with some conductors because he needs a really good accompanying orchestra to let him through. I LOVE him!
You know your strings sir! (Although I have known a few violinists who could make the Eudoxa sing!) Excellent observations and I join you in the greatest admiration for this complex man and musician.
MILSTEIN es un gran virtuoso del violin, no hay duda que tanto èl como otros es un gran violinista. es mi ìdolo nathan milstein. y por el seguirè el perfeccionamiento de la tècnica que hace.
Brahms always lets us down in his last movements; this concerto starts out as if it's the greatest ever written, then descends into this. Great playing, though.
Did you seriously just dis the Brahms violin concerto? wow, man you've got balls...Personally, though, I think this movement is awesome--and I couldn't think of a better way to end the concerto! This performance is amazing.
Brahms has this tendency throughout almost his entire heritage (except for some chamber works). Tchaikowsky always complained about it when mentioning Brahms. Still a great work, though.
Both violinist and violin come into play. For example, the "Marsick" Strad used by Oistrakh was not one of the "great, great Strads." Yet, we have in Oistrakh the sweetest, most gorgeous tone.
On the other hand, the violin is important, as the "Marsick" was a Strad, and thus a cut above the rest.
You are right that a great violinist can make a mediocre instrument sound great, but still all the great violinists were able to do what they did because a guy named Stradavari and a few others perfected the art of violin making all those years ago.
Some modern violins that I've tried are absolutely incredible. Not as much character as a good Strad, but still great! There is a little bit of myth about the superiority of Strads. As goog as they are, it is almost inpossible to tell the difference between a modern one and a cremonese when a master violinist is playing.
gotta keep my head and neck as relaxed as he ... shake my head from side to side opposite the bowing .. now do I sound like him nay not quite lol thank you for the video .... mahalo
GODLY BRAHMS... Wrong. Germance usually makes my want to puke. Violin concertos are awesome. Berg Violin concerto is the best IMO. THEN Bartok 2. THEN Beethoven. What you want?
To Chubsoffire: as you said "Germance usually makes my want to puke"...just your music taste or do you have objections against "german" as such? Well, who cares anyway. Taste is nothing to argue about. And your aversion seems to result out of a lack of education...cheers mate!
I don't care for German Romantic music. I like German music a lot, Bach is God. If I have to listen to romantic music, I would prefer it be Russian. I think that classical music is focused too heavily on the romantic era, it's like we forget bach and haydn and completely ignore schoenberg. It's not about me being "uneducated".
To put it simply, the only reason Brahms is still remembered is because musicians like him.
I have been in lot of places, only in USA people (even musicians) call Classical works "songs". I don't care what you think of the work, but don't call it a song, it's ILLITERATE.
Get off your mighty classical high horse... I meant what I said. I will make sure to refer to every classical piece as a "work" or a "composition" and every other lesser form of music a song... Unless of course I am referring to SCHUBERT... THEN IT IS OKAY BECAUSE THOSE WORKS AREN'T seriously enough to be compositions.
Man, you just don't understand. Something that isn't SUNG is not a SONG. As for Schubert, his lieder (if you know what LIEDER means) are some of the highest achievments of Western Musical tradition. It is just a bit primitive to call an instrumental work a "song".
Often Wagners Prelude and Liebestod from Tristan and Isolde are played together as a piece. I have head with and without a singing soloist. Therefore does that mean the one with voice is a song and the one withough is a WORK? And are you saying a "song" is "primitive"?
Do you always change the meaning of words and put it in a different context? I didn't say "song" is "primitive", I said IT IS PRIMITIVE to call an instrumental work a "song". And yes, if Wagners Prelude and Liebestod are played without a vocalist, it is a "Piece". There are hundreds of arrangements of operatic areas for different instruments and they are called "PIECES". Please, understand, this is not just MY OPINION, but generally accepted tradition among EDUCATED people.
Not knowing is not a shame. The shame is not WANTING to learn. As for music, yes, I am a Classical violinist but I play folk, Irish, Jazz and gipsy violin regularly. I am a big fan of Nirvana, too. If you want to simplify terms it's your own business, and considering you are an American, you are excused!
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I just don't think that we should put classical music on a pedistal. These are sounds, that is all. No sounds are better or more sophisticated then others. And yes AMERICAN and damn proud... I mean... we have Faulkner.
Classical music is on the pedestal not for its "sounds" but the way they are arranged together. It takes a much higher intellect to write or perform a Classical piece, I am saying this as a person who has played in nearly every single style. It is aesthetically the most sophisticated and not meant for everyone. To feel good about being American you are mentioning Faulkner. Well, he was a "Classic".
(cont'd) However, every style is unique and indispensable, and Classical Music owes a lot to folk (Tchaikowsky, Bartok,Copland..). I know many Classically trained musicians who really suck. "Classical" (not only in music) is a certain standard, reached through a long process of refining and rethinking and is based on the best qualities of a human being (intellect, sense of beauty and harmony, moral..)that's why it should be respected.
The sad part is, that classical music wants to be isolated. You don't want these unsophisticated philistines coming in and taking your fun. What if in the end I understand Brahms more then you EVER could. In fact I do. Brahms and I are homies.
Do you want to compare rap,rock,pop with classical?If you do you obviouslly have a low intellect.You know why classical is not as popular as pop and this kind of music?Becouse it requires more intellect to unterstand it and there are much more idiots than intellectual people.
Please know that many lovers and performers of classical also enjoy rock (including myself). The amazing violinist virtuoso Rachel Barton-Pine is one and she has done more to educate the public regarding classical music than most anyone I know. Please check her website out and her many videos..she was an amazing child prodigy. She plays heavenly classical--and heavy metal!
Sadly, I think your statement rings true. When the arts and education are not emphasized within the family unit, intellectual beings are not often created.
I find it sad if you cannot understand that persons of intellect can appreciate a broad scope of music, art and media. Limiting one's self to one facet of anything is simply closed minded. One misses out on much by dismissing and entire genre as being beneath them..like the poetry of the many lyrics of John McClean for example. Literature was one of my majors lyrics and critical response/review are of special interest to me. Tell Bob Dylan he isn't intellectual enough for you.
I agree with you. But having taught in the public school system, i am of the opinion that the scenario you set forth in your reply is not the norm, it is the exception. Your point is well-taken nonetheless. Bob Dylan always had a thirst for knowledge - he is a legendary artist.
I think it goes with out saying OMoonbeam that children now a days don't appreciate a broad scope of music. They often loathe classical music. Trust me I'm 20, a violinist, and people my same age (non musicians) would rather pull out their fingernails then listen to a quartet or a symphony.
i know. im still at school and it depresses me. However Ive been able to share classical music with so many of my friends. Ive changed their minds. Many kids get the wrong idea about classical music. theyre conformed to stereotyping into their social contexts. Where ive not been able to help others develop a taste for classical music, at least Ive helped them to appreciate it and take it seriously as a genre. But i do think its a huge problem today, and people dont truly realise its significance
It requires a spacious mind to at least listen and give things a chance and search for redeeming qualities; It is difficult to imagine a being on the planet that could hear this and not be entranced. As you well know along with youth comes peer pressure and the need to conform. Probably if they did like it they would remain silent. A heartfelt YAY! to you for being a violinist; I hope you keep it up!!!!
BTW. Directly insulting people on YOUTUBE gives quite an insight into your insecure world. I am not taking it personally, I am glad that your self esteem is temporarily raised.
It's not about how much you KNOW about the piece.. It's about LISTENING TO MUSiC. It's not about insulting the unsophisticated ones. People like are you are killing classical music. Why do you think anything of real value has been written since the 50's? Why does classical music have to hide in movies?
Hah, the conductor kinda looks like david oistrakh from a far (even though i know it's not). Wow, this is so amazing. I can't decide who plays this better, oistrakh or milstein, but man, they're both ungodly violinists
one of the most fashionable things about milstein,is that he changes his frame of fingering and bowings with a total liberty, never prisoner of the tecnique.
adidas01003 and jeongalex are right, you can hear Milstein start too early. And in this Brahms, I prefer Oistrakh (although I did'n thear the first two movements).
God ,I love this concerto I dont know the first mov. a big thing and the Reger violin concerto.anybody ever beenfilmed playing that or Szeryng in the Busoni vn. Who'd pick that as a television item I know. such a great sound Milstein.Oistrakh gives us the struggle ofthe music more !
I love this concerto more than I love any musician who plays it. Favourite recordings, conductors, soloists... bleuuurghh. What rules is the piece of music Brahms put into my head! Just me and Him tearing through the universe... Milstein is great though.
Amazing performance. My personal favorite is the Heifetz rendition with the Chicago Symphony, but I could see how others would feel the same way about this recording.
does anyone knwo the circumstances of this studio performance. milstein was truly great and played up into his 80"s. if you want to nitpick there was some rusing in the tutti and by the soloists. but it was the kind of rusing that only 1st rate soloist and conductors can get away with. Both Milstein and the soloist show their greatness by souidng so fantastic without pusing buttons to do so!
I wouldn't say this as a definite statement. It's well known that Heifetz revered Milstein and forced his students to watch milstein in performance...heifetz and milstein both were the greatest violinists in the golden era and they both respected each other. I'm sure if milstein wanted to play as fast as heifetz in some of his interpretations, he could...
He was also the only person to study with both Heifetz and Milstein. Honestly, how can you argue with <I>Friedman's</I> opinion? I suppose you're smarter & a better violinist than he was.
fyi, it is tutti at 2:30 so he could not have 'rushed a bit' but he DID come in early, u can barely hear him coming in early on the arpeggios at 2:30, and then he stops, then comes back in again at the right place.
at 2:30, it is tutti, but if you listen carefully, you can hear milstein come in on his arpeggios eearly and stop, then he comes back in again at the right place
I think you're right! If you turn the volume up loud and listen carefully he does come in early and then starts again! If you hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have been listening for it and wouldn't have noticed. Good ears!
probably the most seamless bow arm i've ever seen. only second to Menuhin in interpration and musical line. IMO heifetz will be always 3rd behind these two.
Surprisingly good accompaniment from what appears to be a radio orchestra. they must have been doing a recording for an album? or maybe a live broadcast.
i swear you can hear him come in early in the middle of the second minute......i'm not insulting him, just saying i noticed. anyway he's great and i know i couldnt be like him....heh....wrong place wrong time
I....drink.....your......MILKSHAKE!
Devine071 1 week ago
@lassan where is that quote from?
NiMexicatl5 7 months ago
Increíble!!!!!!!! maestro MILSTEIN y el genio BRAHMS, combinación de seres de otro mundo
zuzanazuzanita 9 months ago
If I have a violin. And you have a violin. And I have a bow, there it is, that's a bow. Are you watching? And my bow reaches acrooooooooss the room, and starts to play your violin, I PLAY YOUR VIOLIN!!! I PLAY IT UP!!!
Lassannn 11 months ago 2
Always enjoys Brahms, plus this is from Milstein, another my favorite musician
yixuwu 1 year ago
Impressive...superb interpretation by Milstein!
Bravo!
sevcik2 1 year ago
Milstein playing Brahms....OMG I'd like to know how 10 people didnt' like !
MrGunterguerrero 1 year ago
Gosh the setting of the ensemble is so cute! And Milstein seriously has some great double stops
StarlightWarrior 1 year ago
Gosh the setting of the ensemble is so cute!
StarlightWarrior 1 year ago
Milstein has always been my favorite.I often traveled far to hear him during his prime andI was NEVER disappointed. His tone in concert was anything but "compact". In recordings, he played intimately with the orchestra, projecting when needed, and I'm sure that he was responsible for this record engineering. However, in the concert hall, he was gigantic - one of the most athletic figures on stage! I remember Beethoven, Tchaikowski, and Prokofiev #1 in particular. He was "The Master Violinist".
SLKA440 1 year ago
@SLKA440 your blessed, man!
DeepVoidDenizen 1 year ago
1:00 to 1:25 Find someone who can negotiate this passage with as much aplomb, elegance and brilliance....
winrx 1 year ago
@winrx Heifetz.
TheMrClamberto 11 months ago
@TheMrClamberto ....and without making it sound like a technical exercise.... : p
winrx 11 months ago
@winrx Heifetz.
TheMrClamberto 11 months ago
@winrx I have the vinyl of both and i agree with you
vuth94 10 months ago
who the fuck dislikes this?
milstein91 1 year ago 3
Hmmm. Milstein is the first professional I've noticed that plays with his chin physically on the chinrest...
rapter9800 1 year ago
The way he articulates those opening bars is just masterful....
winrx 1 year ago
'Those who know do not speak, those who speak do not know....' - Lao-Tzu
Superb upload! Thank you for those 8 minutes of sheer joy :)
kundalini76 1 year ago
I like his interpretation!!! Bravo!!!
angus24402870451 2 years ago
Milstein is one the very very best at the concerto
fredhainen 2 years ago 4
There is a deep connection between Brahms and Milstein,Heifetz et al.They were both taught by Auer,who was himself taught by Joachim-Brahms' great friend.
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this is like eating plain spinach!
it's really boring!
spice it up go on!
MrDouglasfairbanks 2 years ago
intheknow7: Oistrakh, Grumiaux are two you might be interested in? There is a good upload of Grumiaux playing the Bach Violin Sonatas and Partitas on here somewhere.
fozziebear2009 2 years ago 2
...well, I can hear the similarity..Leopold Auer taught Heifetz, Milstein and Elman
j72050 2 years ago
Fellow UTubers: Can u recommend other violinists on the level of Heifetz, Milstein, Issac Stern or Yitzchak Perlman? Trying to broaden my tastes - easy to get locked into favs.
Tx in advance.
intheknow7 2 years ago
Ilya Kaler, Arthur Grumiaux, Henryk Szering, David Oistrakh, Zino Francesccati, Gil Shaham, Vadim Repin, Boris Goldstein, Yuri Bashmet (the best viola player in the hole world everyone should hear him..)
ZsoltMagyar 2 years ago
To greenrate, Unless I am misunderstanding your point, your opinion seems to generate the question of who decides what that specific effect is, and in that case we are back to the idea that there are many ways to play a particular work, as each performer would tend to believe that he or she has found that one right way to play it.
nevitsnidur 2 years ago
BEAUTIFUL.
musicpirate456 2 years ago
Milstein was a wizard! What rapturous
and elegant playing of Brahms' monumental concerto. Inspired posting,
thank you!!
Kievest 2 years ago
Bravo Milstein. A great master.
Thank you.
vstasov 2 years ago
This may have been already answered--I don't want to look at all 143 comments!--but when was this done and what orchestra and conductor is performing?
Milstein is very sharp here. Like him or not, he is a great violinist at the top of his game on this evening.
ipmoic 2 years ago
Wow!
JBLACK12 2 years ago
My father, as I think I wrote in a previous comment, was a violinist in one of the great symphony orchestras during the era of Milstein, Heifetz etc. He admired all the great violinists. His teacher was friends with Milstein so he got to hear him close up. As others have reported, it was an astonishing experience!
Although my father did not agree with all of Heifetz's interpretations, he, as well as other members of the symphony, greatly admired him.
nevitsnidur 2 years ago 2
It's silly to get into arguments about who was the greatest violinist. This is not sports where records can be set and broken. The pianist Artur Rubinstein once said it is silly to look for one best pianist. This certainly applies to violinists as well. And to totally dismiss the work of Heifetz, or anyone else who has achieved such mastery of an instrument, strikes me as ridiculous. My father was a violinist in a major symphony during this era and admired all the great artists of the time.
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Well said--there may be some whose playing might speak to our hearts a little more than the other but I can appreciate something about all of the great Masters--each of them seem to possess a special quality.
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
Thanks for the compliment. The documentary "The Art of the Violin" makes the point that one of the distinguishing qualities of the violinists of the 20th century is how differently they played from each other. Perlman states that "no two sounded alike; they were all individuals" and Gitless (sorry for the spelling) makes the larger point that if there is only one way to interpret a musical work it must be a poorly written piece to begin with.
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It also speaks highly of an individuals intelligence and open mindness--can you appreciate different techniques according to schools or that person's may have adapted according to body type? This is simply INTERESTING...it's also interesting to listen to each one's different violin tones, whose violin do they have and how does it compare with the past owner, their musicality--so many interesting things to listen and watch for--only limited people would not "get" this.
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
I agree with you one hundred percent.
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kongming819 2 years ago
Hmmm. Sorry, but my experience is just the opposite -- that a piece of music is "well written" precisely to the extent that it has one specific effect (however sophisticated) that it BEST elicits in the experience of the listener.
You might be able to "interpret" it to convey other effects . . . but they'll pale in comparison to the ONE essential effect that the piece BEST evokes.
Different performances are either more or less successful in evoking that specific effect . . .
greenrate 2 years ago
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stupidstorm 2 years ago
where the hell does money come into this? and all you're doing is stating your opinion, and i don't know how you will get anywhere in life if you expect everyone to listen to someone insult them. god, your name sure as hell describes you well
Redmarkviolinist 2 years ago
n'en déplaise aux critiques,le coup d'archet est grandiose !
robynsalain 2 years ago
stupidstorm, stfu. you cant compare milstein and heifetz, each has their own positives that are different from each other. neither one is "better"
Redmarkviolinist 2 years ago
he's so far away from the conductor.... lol
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EXCUSE ME VIOLINGURL.
who was YOUR teacher??
i believe i know him best out of all of you here except maybe, my teacher, who was his best and loved student. Milstein is the best alright!! Heifetz, psh! if u actualyl listen to milstein's music, ull find that milstein is actual quite ahead of heifetz musically AND technically, which in other words, is TECHNICALLY, because being able to play music is a TECHNIQUE, for all you people who don't know that yet. most people get this concept wrong.
stupidstorm 2 years ago
lmfao -5. you really are unliked here. i don't know how anyone would teach such a flamer like you.
Redmarkviolinist 2 years ago
I'm finished!
Amir4867 2 years ago 3
milstein have sing in the show!!!
DHcello 3 years ago
I have yet to hear this movement better played by any other violinist on "record." Note his spiccati and subsequent runs beginning at 1:00...executed simply superbly!
winrx 3 years ago 3
Es celestial esto.Brahms se sentiria feliz de presenciar esta interpretacion,Muchas gracias.
Juan
omicron2020 3 years ago 5
he was absolutely unique,his technique and expression had no equal.
kreutzo1 3 years ago 4
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I love this so much! Milstein puts so much life into it!
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
I know about Milstein's stage fright for a fact--his piano accompanist of 20 years told me so many years ago. But that only makes him greater in my eyes. He overcame this, as many great artists do, and still became a legend.
ipmoic 3 years ago
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I don't know...I look at how relaxed he is standing there. He puts his violin down and then literally seconds before a major run down he puts it up casually as if it is nothing. He doesn't appear anxious at all. It is known he was not interested in the trappings of fame, he didn't want the publicity "machine"--he just wanted to play. He was also known for his great humility, kindness and sense of humor..and a brilliant mind.
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
there will be blood
x1235791113x 3 years ago
He was a teacher of my teacher!
Violingirl1993 3 years ago
Extremely exciting! You must have a very special teacher because it means something if a genius like Milstein accepted him as a student!!
Pitborn 3 years ago
Same for me as well. It's really great.
theviolingirls 3 years ago
Brahms is coooooooooooool
noblove 3 years ago
Terriblemente estimulante. Gran prueba de que no hay que abandonar el estudio.
Uno de los solistas que más me gustan
menusis 3 years ago
check Christies for statelitary Dominic 1773
mikkola007 4 years ago
On like 1:30 - 1:32, I swear that exact transition is used on the third movement of Moonlight Sonata
hasafin 4 years ago
guys need help.we finished the 4 seasons by Antonio Vivaldi,and i want to play bach conciertos..but i dont know wat website,and wer to find it,can u pls help me
mviolin09 4 years ago
Terrific playing. Did you know that Milstein had frightful stage fright and he often literally had to be pushed onto the stage. I know this firsthand from a pianist who toured with him for decades. Also, among musicians and those who heard him live the only complaint--and it was universal--was that Milstein had an imaculate but rather compact tone. Heifetz and others could be heard far better in concerto appearances. I adore his playing, but thought these facts might be of interest.
ipmoic 4 years ago 11
Milstein didn't have to push the envelope. Milstein was a born violinist, Heifetz was a made violinist. It is only by sheer luck that Heifetz outshined Milstein.
jabsomdoc 4 years ago
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ur a retard
tennisballer17 4 years ago
i don t belive that he was afraid from th stage.
milstein91 3 years ago 2
@ipmoic: About his tone and projection: As far as I know he sticked to gut strings all his life, wich was in this case Pirastro Eudoxa. This string is most beautiful in sound, but very hard to hold in tune and not very strong in projection. But Milstein did always know what he wants without compromise: He chose quality over projection. I think this may be also a reason why he had problems with some conductors because he needs a really good accompanying orchestra to let him through. I LOVE him!
SimonS7r 5 months ago
@SimonS7r
You know your strings sir! (Although I have known a few violinists who could make the Eudoxa sing!) Excellent observations and I join you in the greatest admiration for this complex man and musician.
LiLaShows 5 months ago
He has very strong virbrato in his 3rd and 4th fingers (Ring and Pinky fingers).
This an excellent recording.
Although not as good as maxim's, it is still absolutely brilliant.
cfeAncient 4 years ago
opinion is respected, but really maxim himself would not agree i bet.
pviola314 4 years ago 3
maybe its only the soundquality, but the orchestra plays awfully, milstein is great
fruscia123 4 years ago
If you liked classical music you wouldnt be arguing about such a matter and would just listen to it, watch the excellent performance and enjoy
classical4life 4 years ago
espetacular!
adorei.
flautixtah 4 years ago
he makes it look so easy, not like the female buzz saws like chung and mutter...
jcfbell3000 4 years ago
Milstein is the greatest violinist who ever lived. He can do no wrong!
TigerPrincessyt 4 years ago
I agree 100%
milstein91 3 years ago
Simply amazing interpretation of the Brahms
AbsoluteZ3R0 4 years ago
Excellent piece, I found free sheet music for it on sheetmusicfox DOT com and absolutely love it!
pianoparadise 4 years ago
MILSTEIN es un gran virtuoso del violin, no hay duda que tanto èl como otros es un gran violinista. es mi ìdolo nathan milstein. y por el seguirè el perfeccionamiento de la tècnica que hace.
danzne 4 years ago
Brahms always lets us down in his last movements; this concerto starts out as if it's the greatest ever written, then descends into this. Great playing, though.
billyguns2 4 years ago
Did you seriously just dis the Brahms violin concerto? wow, man you've got balls...Personally, though, I think this movement is awesome--and I couldn't think of a better way to end the concerto! This performance is amazing.
fiddlechix426 4 years ago 3
So what are you going to do about it ?
3NUNS 4 years ago
Brahms has this tendency throughout almost his entire heritage (except for some chamber works). Tchaikowsky always complained about it when mentioning Brahms. Still a great work, though.
Laprevotte 4 years ago
his vibrato is so sweet...i want something like that
ellegin88 4 years ago
Which city are you in ? I'll send you some in a cookie jar !
3NUNS 4 years ago
wonderfully played!!! very well performed!!!
Milstein makes this song sound so original
Everything is so clear, every note can be listened
very impressive
guilobcast 4 years ago
Both violinist and violin come into play. For example, the "Marsick" Strad used by Oistrakh was not one of the "great, great Strads." Yet, we have in Oistrakh the sweetest, most gorgeous tone.
On the other hand, the violin is important, as the "Marsick" was a Strad, and thus a cut above the rest.
GreatPianists 4 years ago
You are right that a great violinist can make a mediocre instrument sound great, but still all the great violinists were able to do what they did because a guy named Stradavari and a few others perfected the art of violin making all those years ago.
fhesi3 5 years ago
Some modern violins that I've tried are absolutely incredible. Not as much character as a good Strad, but still great! There is a little bit of myth about the superiority of Strads. As goog as they are, it is almost inpossible to tell the difference between a modern one and a cremonese when a master violinist is playing.
Laprevotte 4 years ago
To sound great you need a great violin. All the great soloists had great violins.
fhesi3 5 years ago
Not necessarily. It's more about your skill. The violin comes afterwards.
AnimeisforLovers 5 years ago 2
gotta keep my head and neck as relaxed as he ... shake my head from side to side opposite the bowing .. now do I sound like him nay not quite lol thank you for the video .... mahalo
stradivariusone 5 years ago
Exquisite player, Awful song.
chubsoffire 5 years ago
If you don't like this concerto, what the hell DO you like? By the way, calling it a song gives us the measure of your experience. 'Bout like that. .
Largo64 4 years ago
GODLY BRAHMS... Wrong. Germance usually makes my want to puke. Violin concertos are awesome. Berg Violin concerto is the best IMO. THEN Bartok 2. THEN Beethoven. What you want?
chubsoffire 4 years ago
To Chubsoffire: as you said "Germance usually makes my want to puke"...just your music taste or do you have objections against "german" as such? Well, who cares anyway. Taste is nothing to argue about. And your aversion seems to result out of a lack of education...cheers mate!
1gwa 4 years ago
Germance= German Romantic Music
I don't care for German Romantic music. I like German music a lot, Bach is God. If I have to listen to romantic music, I would prefer it be Russian. I think that classical music is focused too heavily on the romantic era, it's like we forget bach and haydn and completely ignore schoenberg. It's not about me being "uneducated".
To put it simply, the only reason Brahms is still remembered is because musicians like him.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Sorry for being that impolite, I was just wondering. As for Brahms, I´m not fond of his music either...my bad. Cheers.
1gwa 4 years ago
I have been in lot of places, only in USA people (even musicians) call Classical works "songs". I don't care what you think of the work, but don't call it a song, it's ILLITERATE.
Laprevotte 4 years ago
Get off your mighty classical high horse... I meant what I said. I will make sure to refer to every classical piece as a "work" or a "composition" and every other lesser form of music a song... Unless of course I am referring to SCHUBERT... THEN IT IS OKAY BECAUSE THOSE WORKS AREN'T seriously enough to be compositions.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Man, you just don't understand. Something that isn't SUNG is not a SONG. As for Schubert, his lieder (if you know what LIEDER means) are some of the highest achievments of Western Musical tradition. It is just a bit primitive to call an instrumental work a "song".
Laprevotte 4 years ago 2
In that case here is my next question.
Often Wagners Prelude and Liebestod from Tristan and Isolde are played together as a piece. I have head with and without a singing soloist. Therefore does that mean the one with voice is a song and the one withough is a WORK? And are you saying a "song" is "primitive"?
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Do you always change the meaning of words and put it in a different context? I didn't say "song" is "primitive", I said IT IS PRIMITIVE to call an instrumental work a "song". And yes, if Wagners Prelude and Liebestod are played without a vocalist, it is a "Piece". There are hundreds of arrangements of operatic areas for different instruments and they are called "PIECES". Please, understand, this is not just MY OPINION, but generally accepted tradition among EDUCATED people.
Laprevotte 4 years ago
You're right, I'm primitive. I would rather not be a classical snob. Just someone who likes all the !!SONGS!! that it produces. SORRY MR. SMART.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Not knowing is not a shame. The shame is not WANTING to learn. As for music, yes, I am a Classical violinist but I play folk, Irish, Jazz and gipsy violin regularly. I am a big fan of Nirvana, too. If you want to simplify terms it's your own business, and considering you are an American, you are excused!
Laprevotte 4 years ago
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I just don't think that we should put classical music on a pedistal. These are sounds, that is all. No sounds are better or more sophisticated then others. And yes AMERICAN and damn proud... I mean... we have Faulkner.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Classical music is on the pedestal not for its "sounds" but the way they are arranged together. It takes a much higher intellect to write or perform a Classical piece, I am saying this as a person who has played in nearly every single style. It is aesthetically the most sophisticated and not meant for everyone. To feel good about being American you are mentioning Faulkner. Well, he was a "Classic".
Laprevotte 4 years ago 3
(cont'd) However, every style is unique and indispensable, and Classical Music owes a lot to folk (Tchaikowsky, Bartok,Copland..). I know many Classically trained musicians who really suck. "Classical" (not only in music) is a certain standard, reached through a long process of refining and rethinking and is based on the best qualities of a human being (intellect, sense of beauty and harmony, moral..)that's why it should be respected.
Laprevotte 4 years ago 3
Finally, someone who has a brain. Thank you Laprevotte for explaining why classical music is superior to all other forms of music.
AbsoluteZ3R0 4 years ago
The sad part is, that classical music wants to be isolated. You don't want these unsophisticated philistines coming in and taking your fun. What if in the end I understand Brahms more then you EVER could. In fact I do. Brahms and I are homies.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Do you want to compare rap,rock,pop with classical?If you do you obviouslly have a low intellect.You know why classical is not as popular as pop and this kind of music?Becouse it requires more intellect to unterstand it and there are much more idiots than intellectual people.
milstein91 3 years ago 5
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Please know that many lovers and performers of classical also enjoy rock (including myself). The amazing violinist virtuoso Rachel Barton-Pine is one and she has done more to educate the public regarding classical music than most anyone I know. Please check her website out and her many videos..she was an amazing child prodigy. She plays heavenly classical--and heavy metal!
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
Sadly, I think your statement rings true. When the arts and education are not emphasized within the family unit, intellectual beings are not often created.
calloffthedogs 3 years ago
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I find it sad if you cannot understand that persons of intellect can appreciate a broad scope of music, art and media. Limiting one's self to one facet of anything is simply closed minded. One misses out on much by dismissing and entire genre as being beneath them..like the poetry of the many lyrics of John McClean for example. Literature was one of my majors lyrics and critical response/review are of special interest to me. Tell Bob Dylan he isn't intellectual enough for you.
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
I agree with you. But having taught in the public school system, i am of the opinion that the scenario you set forth in your reply is not the norm, it is the exception. Your point is well-taken nonetheless. Bob Dylan always had a thirst for knowledge - he is a legendary artist.
calloffthedogs 3 years ago
I think it goes with out saying OMoonbeam that children now a days don't appreciate a broad scope of music. They often loathe classical music. Trust me I'm 20, a violinist, and people my same age (non musicians) would rather pull out their fingernails then listen to a quartet or a symphony.
TheReverendKane 3 years ago
i know. im still at school and it depresses me. However Ive been able to share classical music with so many of my friends. Ive changed their minds. Many kids get the wrong idea about classical music. theyre conformed to stereotyping into their social contexts. Where ive not been able to help others develop a taste for classical music, at least Ive helped them to appreciate it and take it seriously as a genre. But i do think its a huge problem today, and people dont truly realise its significance
DualThunder 3 years ago
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It requires a spacious mind to at least listen and give things a chance and search for redeeming qualities; It is difficult to imagine a being on the planet that could hear this and not be entranced. As you well know along with youth comes peer pressure and the need to conform. Probably if they did like it they would remain silent. A heartfelt YAY! to you for being a violinist; I hope you keep it up!!!!
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
I'd hate to hear you play jazz. And classical for that matter.
ilyalushtak 4 years ago
BTW. Directly insulting people on YOUTUBE gives quite an insight into your insecure world. I am not taking it personally, I am glad that your self esteem is temporarily raised.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Arguing about music is like dancing about architechure.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
How about you eat shit and die.
dumby41240 4 years ago
Done and Done.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Yes, you are completely right, calling everything "song" is very stupid ... It is like calling every instrument "violin" or "trompet" ...
cenolbaj 4 years ago
It's not about how much you KNOW about the piece.. It's about LISTENING TO MUSiC. It's not about insulting the unsophisticated ones. People like are you are killing classical music. Why do you think anything of real value has been written since the 50's? Why does classical music have to hide in movies?
chubsoffire 4 years ago
god is dead - neitsche. Nietsche is dead - God
youarthurhu 5 years ago
The name of the philosopher FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE
Maybe you`re talking about something else - it doesn`t make any sense here anyway.
Stromschlag 5 years ago
Hah, the conductor kinda looks like david oistrakh from a far (even though i know it's not). Wow, this is so amazing. I can't decide who plays this better, oistrakh or milstein, but man, they're both ungodly violinists
AbsoluteZ3R0 5 years ago
he looks like mario when hes playing if you look him far a 20m distance
mikechenkeha 5 years ago
one of the most fashionable things about milstein,is that he changes his frame of fingering and bowings with a total liberty, never prisoner of the tecnique.
he looks free, totally
aroasorin 5 years ago 2
I think Milstein's rendition is the best.
artoftheviolin 5 years ago
have you heard every rendition of this piece? idiot
OistrakhMilstein 5 years ago
yes (oistrakh, perlman, heifetz, kremer, szerying)
it's simply my thought
all of them have very different strengths
but i love milstein's intrepretation the most.
i think YOU are the idiot.
I am entitled to my own thoughts and opinions.
go back to preschool and learn how to respect other's opinions. I was careful to use the word "think."
On the other hand, you are implying that other renditions are better than Milstein's categorically.
artoftheviolin 5 years ago
I don't have to comply to your disrespectful comments.
Go to preschool.
artoftheviolin 5 years ago
time out for you, 24 year old baby!
lololololololololol
artoftheviolin 5 years ago
adidas01003 and jeongalex are right, you can hear Milstein start too early. And in this Brahms, I prefer Oistrakh (although I did'n thear the first two movements).
busoniliszt 5 years ago
thats the hardest peice i ever played
mikechenkeha 5 years ago
God ,I love this concerto I dont know the first mov. a big thing and the Reger violin concerto.anybody ever beenfilmed playing that or Szeryng in the Busoni vn. Who'd pick that as a television item I know. such a great sound Milstein.Oistrakh gives us the struggle ofthe music more !
lovesGenet 5 years ago
he looks like jack from will and grace from an angle
ellegin88 5 years ago
I love this concerto more than I love any musician who plays it. Favourite recordings, conductors, soloists... bleuuurghh. What rules is the piece of music Brahms put into my head! Just me and Him tearing through the universe... Milstein is great though.
tuskmo 5 years ago
Amazing performance. My personal favorite is the Heifetz rendition with the Chicago Symphony, but I could see how others would feel the same way about this recording.
RagingBull777 5 years ago
I do like Heifetz in the 3rd movement, but the first mvt is too fast.
Laprevotte 4 years ago
Milstein is amazing! Great video.
sab3156 5 years ago
does anyone knwo the circumstances of this studio performance. milstein was truly great and played up into his 80"s. if you want to nitpick there was some rusing in the tutti and by the soloists. but it was the kind of rusing that only 1st rate soloist and conductors can get away with. Both Milstein and the soloist show their greatness by souidng so fantastic without pusing buttons to do so!
hungwildparti 5 years ago
I agree. Nate the Great really put the Brahms concerto over.
jacobsimon 5 years ago
Even much, much better than Kremer, really... Just perfect!
acossanchez 5 years ago
finally some1 agrees with me
jeongalex 5 years ago
actually heifetz has perfect technique, much better than short milstein!
OistrakhMilstein 5 years ago
I wouldn't say this as a definite statement. It's well known that Heifetz revered Milstein and forced his students to watch milstein in performance...heifetz and milstein both were the greatest violinists in the golden era and they both respected each other. I'm sure if milstein wanted to play as fast as heifetz in some of his interpretations, he could...
sofly09 5 years ago 2
Why don't you change your name to "OistrakhHeifetzLoveChild"
johnc92 5 years ago
Too bad Erick Friedman disagrees with you.
nsimington 5 years ago
erick friedman is dead.
OistrakhMilstein 5 years ago
He was also the only person to study with both Heifetz and Milstein. Honestly, how can you argue with <I>Friedman's</I> opinion? I suppose you're smarter & a better violinist than he was.
nsimington 5 years ago
fyi, it is tutti at 2:30 so he could not have 'rushed a bit' but he DID come in early, u can barely hear him coming in early on the arpeggios at 2:30, and then he stops, then comes back in again at the right place.
jeongalex 5 years ago
The arpeggios are fine, what criticism to you have of this performance?
jonyerby2000 5 years ago
at 2:30, it is tutti, but if you listen carefully, you can hear milstein come in on his arpeggios eearly and stop, then he comes back in again at the right place
jeongalex 5 years ago
I think you're right! If you turn the volume up loud and listen carefully he does come in early and then starts again! If you hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have been listening for it and wouldn't have noticed. Good ears!
verdecillo 5 years ago
This is so awesome. Milstein is bomb. His Brahms is ridiculously good.
johnc92 5 years ago 2
one of the most amazing performances i have hear EVER!!
so what the hell was up with that week applause at the end?
iiirineo 5 years ago
probably the most seamless bow arm i've ever seen. only second to Menuhin in interpration and musical line. IMO heifetz will be always 3rd behind these two.
Surprisingly good accompaniment from what appears to be a radio orchestra. they must have been doing a recording for an album? or maybe a live broadcast.
; )
trevorpinnocky 5 years ago
*THE* rendition of the Brahms vk. Milstein!
cgzH 5 years ago
whoa!! ur right!!
listen at 2:30
u hear him coming in early and then he stops..waits..and then comes back in again!! WHOAA HE MESSED UP!!!
jeongalex 5 years ago
He plays as Brahms wrote.
emtube 5 years ago
omg u r soooo right!
theogler22 5 years ago
i swear you can hear him come in early in the middle of the second minute......i'm not insulting him, just saying i noticed. anyway he's great and i know i couldnt be like him....heh....wrong place wrong time
adidas01003 5 years ago
I loved it. It reminds me so much of the Kreisler recording of it in 1936! Nathan Milstein makes it look so easy. I gave it a 5.
robotnik77 5 years ago
Milstein is t3h master. He made the best Bach solo violin recordings ever.
h4xXx0r 5 years ago
i mean....HOW DID YOU CONVERT THIS? this is soo awesome!
If you could, could you add on the first mvmt by milstein? I really want to see him play his cadenza...awesome stuff...
sofly09 5 years ago
first movement is too long to put on a youtube video, unless you break it up
OistrakhMilstein 5 years ago
MILSTEIN FRIGGIN RULES!
felixmendelssohn 5 years ago
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS? OMG!
sofly09 5 years ago