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  • Are you just gonna keep playing the same 40 second clip from 60 minutes through the entire video? Didnt even make it a quarter the way in.

  • McVeigh has that same look on his face that Oswald had when he too was accused of committing something bad and McVeigh lawyer didn't even get to prove his innocence this was the same people who did the same thing to the WTC and Pentagon buildings. The government needed a patsy and they ended McVeigh's life so fast just to shut him up!

  • another oswald, bin laden, mac veigh, is about coming soon...

  • It was a setup just like 9-11

  • I guess it's time for the propaganda ministry to start ramping up fear of domestic terrorism. After all they need some reason to justify the developing police state.

    I miss living in America, this new AmeriKa isn't as much fun.

  • I don’t understand what you are trying to prove here. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were sociopaths who killed 168 people and injured over 800 people including children, and if the federal government wants to manipulate or discredit information on him then they have the right to do so. Don’t get me wrong you have the right to voice your opinion but it looks like you have sympathy for McVeigh in this video which I think is disgusting.

  • @darcia76

    What planet are you on?

  • @RP4409 lol second that

  • @darcia76 its sympothy for the federal government that is disgusting. the federal and state governments have murdered millions of innocent people all around the world. they kidnap millions of innocent americans every year. They rob assault and terrorize people on a daily basis in perpetuity. If you view mcveighs retaliation as a disgusting crime then certainly you must view atf and the millitarys crimes as 1000 times worse right?

  • @darcia76 its time to pull your head out of the sand and stop watching fox news

  • History will prove most of the exaggeration masters in the news media to be self promoting and the truth will come out. I'm not saying McVeigh was right in doing this. It's just sad he had to take the full rap for something that clearly involved others.

  • @TheScott2121 You, sir, get it. Glad too see someone has common sense and a lil' sympathy.

  • I think regardless of what he did, sympathy should be offered toward timothy. You have to be in a very dark place to be able to concieve and carryout such calculated and malicous acts and in an even darker place to think that it's okay. Im not taking any sides, im saying know the facts and respect what has happened.

  • oh timothy makes me so horney he makes me wanna fuck his dead body yum timothys dead body all hail satan and all hail satanic sluts like me

  • Pure cover-up . Your gonna pay eventually you dirty government pigs.

  • Worst thing about the Internet. Fuel for stupid conspiracy theories. How do people belive this stuff? Crazy people do crazy stuff. Just because something huge happens doesnt mean there are 100 government people involved. How about Oswald? Are you kidding me? So obvious of his guilt and that is like the most popular con. theory.

  • @thechucker44

    You said: How do people believe this stuff?

    Did you not watch this video and see the reports from your own STATE funded media....LMFAO

    For anyone to continue to believe a government that consistently lies to them on a daily basis is close to being a full blown nutcase.

    You obviously have Stockholms syndrome slave!

    ~4409

  • @RP4409 I'm a slave? lol. Please explain it to me. Bill Clinton was in on it? 9/11...Bush was a partner with Bin Laden? 1/2 the government was in on killing JFK?

    I don't believe everything in the media. I also don't buy all these goofball theories people come up with on the Internet.

    We have a guy at work like that. When ever people talk about an event this guy throws his opinion in. Then everyone else looks at each other with the - what the f is this guy talking about?!?

  • @thechucker44

    You look at him crazy because he has his own opinion? You opinion is no different other that its shaped by the TV and radio that is crammed into your pathetic brain every night. Why is your opinion not a conspiracy theory but hi is? because you seen it on TV? LMFAO

    You sir a complete tard

  • @RP4409 Funny in this exchange I have not insulted you personally. You have referred to me as a slave, pathetic, and retarded. hmmm.

    Well explain it to me. This MSNBC (I am NOT a fan of this channel) created these tapes? Is that what you are saying? So the small newspaper that interviewed him...they are in on this lie, MSNBC is in on this lie, and the government is in on this lie. And EVERYONE keeps this secret. For what reason?

    Maybe you can explain this to me..without insults.

  • @thechucker44

    This is over simplified:

    There is not some huge lie that everyone meets in a room and decides to keep quiet.

    The government gives a story (which is normally a lie) ....and if it involves something like 9/11 or a terrorist attack the "news" agencies rarely if at all do any investigations. They are spoon fed talking points and the stories and they do not steer from that story until told otherwise. The editor is there to keep them in check and acts like a buffer.

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  • @thechucker44

    Part 2:

    Now, the people who benefit from these lies (Banks, Congressman, lobbyists, military commanders, insider traders, etc) often have investments in corporations like Hallibuton, Boeing, Bechtel and guess what? These are the same corporations that pay for the ads that keep the News agency on the air.

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  • @thechucker44

    Part 3:

    The corporations then get their money to place the ads on the nightly "news" from no bid contracts, corporate welfare, and bailouts provided by the scum bag congressman.

    These corporations then give back some of that money in bribes errrrrrrrrr I mean, "campaign donations"

    The "campaign donations" get funneled into....you guessed it....ads that run on the nightly "news" which funds them. Its a giant circle jerk and they're all making money if they don't rock the boat.

  • @thechucker44 Just like the government didn't kill Martin Luther King Jr.?

  • mcveigh should be buryed along side oswald, the 2 biggest patsys in history.

  • Something's not right with the US. So many improper investigations and lack of disclosure. Everyone knows the generally the US is overwhelmed with naive and dumb people, but isn't dishonesty contributing to that? Leaves too much room for fantasy and people run with that.

  • A criminal element has hijacked our country. We will have justice. In this life or the next.

  • @okturus i vote they get it in this life.

  • When in doubt just blame the Jews... they seem to be involved in everything corrupt.

  • so u think sept 11 was an inside job that figures alright weirdo

  • @Aidoan 9/11 WAS an inside job. and those hijacked planes were fake. even the videos show a cgi plane just butter into the tower.

  • @chibangin007 ....don't speak of shit you can't prove.... you make yourself look like a jackass

  • @RP4409 no proof?

    /watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk

    this is one

    even many former fbi agents exposed this!

  • Are you trying to say he didn't do it because he was an idiot? B/c he was speeding and had no license plate? And the rental truck papers in the car? Your right no criminal is stupid enough to leave behind overwhelming evidence of their crime huh?!? What a ridiculous argument. Criminals (especially those who get caught) aren't smart and especially those who target federal buildings with explosives. Well, they might be smarter than you.

  • You are the biggest disgrace of an American I have ever seen. I didn't even want to give you the time of day by responding to this but considering its sunday and i have nothing to do I changed my mind. All this is is a video replaying his calm cool statement that "he felt horrible that children were in there" THATS IT! Was he emotional? Were there any tears in his eyes? Wow, if u consider that remorse you have no soul. All the people he killed and that was you example of remorse.You are idiotic

  • @areyouexperienced03 He didnt have remorse because he didnt do it.

  • So ugly

  • timothy did it and you cant tell me he didnt thare was more then just the 3 the f.b.i. got so bull fucking shit

  • sorry to keep wasting comment space, but one last thing is that there was NO surveillance video showing two men in the Ryder truck. that story was told by a "source", NOT a video exclusive. some news channels caught alot of flack for running that story because thats all it was and officials knew that too. if there was a video showing another man in the truck, it would eventually be released so the public might help in identifying the man. sorry to disappoint you

  • @TheIceman515069 .....You said "If there was a video showing another man in the truck, it would eventually be released so the public might help in identifying the man. " hahahahahahahhhahhaha LMFAO who the fu%k do you think controls the media?

  • @RP4409 hey, youre right?! i did not see any so called video and i cant say i SAW that there was only one guy in the Ryder truck?! but i do know that the 2 sources that were quoted as saying that they viewed the tape, the ones that were quoted by the newsteam, were both discredited and found out to be hoaxes, but of course, they dont print that part. anyways, i completely agree with you on who controls the media, all i know is that the people who said that there was a tape were lying.

  • @TheIceman515069 If there was a video of a plane hitting the pentagon, they would eventually release it so they could shut all the "conspirators" up.

  • and remember that guy that said he saw a second man getting out of the Ryder truck? he was a bystander long after the blast that saw nothing. he overheard alot of the people around him telling stories and theories as to what happened. and he never said anything to anybody until about 2 weeks after the blast, thats when he called a reporter and told them HIS story. they jumped at the chance to interview him because this was a story people WILL buy at that point! he was lying and he knows it

  • also, just so everyone knows, believe me if you want to, but there were NO other bombs found in the building. the only items that were found that were later identified as simple mechanical parts of some kind, NOT bomb material. that whole story came from a few journalists that tried, and succeeded in spreading rumors like that to sell their stories. they dont care about the real truth, they just want to sell it to everyone. how do I know this? again, believe me or dont believe me...i was there

  • dude, give me a fucking break! McVeigh had NO remorse and you annoyingly repeating what he says makes no goddamn difference, ok? anyone with half a brain cell can tell that even by his expressions alone, he doesnt give a shit and just says all that crap because he thinks it might convince another idiot, like you, to believe in him!! OH WAIT A MINUTE! HE SAYS IT WAS A TERRIBLE EVENT! THAT MUST MEAN THAT HE IS SO REMORSEFUL??!! LETS BELIEVE EVERYTHING HE SAYS NOW!! you are just as stupid as he is!

  • @TheIceman515069 ...spoken like a tribalist...watch the whole video slave

  • @RP4409 everyone is entitled to their opinion, and i might owe you an apology just because i was definitely a bit harsh in my words against you, maybe it was because i had just woken up, and yes, i have watched the whole video. i completely agree with you on mostly everything that is said, unfortunately, not on the part about his remorse...im sorry but anyone with a 3rd grade education can see that he is only remorseful because of the fact that he wasnt made out to be a true war hero...thats it

  • rachel maddow is a dumb cunt

  • EVERYTHING IS FINE, THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.... REPEAT THIS AD NAUSEUM UNTIL U CAN SLEEP SOUNDLY... AWAITING THEIR DESIGN FOR TOTAL DOMINATION

  • im sure most of you are aware that there are actually people/idiots out there that support what Mcveigh did?!! how can anyone really be that friggin stupid?! ok, here's an idea.....lets put YOUR children in that daycare and YOUR mother, father, or any other family members in the building! then I will set off a huge bomb that kills YOUR kids and YOUR family!! lets just see how much you support me then!!! go McFuck yourself McVeigh!! you got off easy!!!

  • also... any fucking actual combat veteran would know this..... why isnt the road damaged where the truck was parked....watch any video of IEDs going off and EVERYTHING around the bomb is impacted in some way...there should be some type of crater... for the size of that type of explosion there should have been a decent sized crater... but instead you see rubble blown OUT to where the truck was parked.....

  • @gilligan80

    if u knew anything about the Oklahoma bombing, u would know that mcveigh set up the bombs to blow into the direction of the building

  • @hiphop187productions thats why i find it odd that all the rubble is blown AWAY from the building... no crater in the road where the truck is... just like the same scenario with the marine barracks bombing in lebanon... the same building that the Bin Ladens family business was contracted to build.... i dont even believe you are a real person... people need to know that there are programs set up to create false "people" on websites like youtube... study it...

  • 15:12 seriously... hahahah... get yer money fer nuthin and yer chicks fer free.......hahahahahahahahah

  • hahahah.... "We cant show you the tape ourselves".... but well make this fancy computer generated thingy that looks like a fucking Dire Straights video.... and you will believe us.... YOU WILL BELIEVE US.... OBEY

  • I love how the media throws people around.... "uhhh.. we're the local oklahoma news channel but well bring you BREAKING NEWS from where.... the fucking LA TIMES..." what and theeeeee fuck people....

  • A book written by OK Governor Frank Keating's Brother, 4 years BEFORE OKC BOMBING, featured a bomber named TOM MCVEY, pulled over like McVeigh for a minor equipment violation. Do I hear masonic orchestrated coreography ? Lemme hear hell yeah! FRANK KEATING used to be head of ATF and was FBI hotshot. Keating's book also predicted TWA and World Trade Center bombing. Keating family career intelligence operatives and agent provacatuers. It gets even more interesting.

  • Ted Gunderson fucking ROCKS.... hes had tons of disinfo attempts on him even attempts at murder.... he was the one that called out Art Bell's connection to individuals linked to child trafficking etc etc... that was right when Art Bell left coast to coast... then years after the shit storm died down Art Bell decides to come back on the air.....

  • I must admit, I was quite intriqued in this video. At least until I saw Kevin Ogle at 13:42

    The voice is obviously dubbed there 110%. That isn't lag of any kind either. You don't need to be a lip reader to see he didn't say a single word of that. This is the problem with conspiracy theorists,,, they get some good info but get greedy and then screw up majorly discrediting anything else they have. To me, that is you speeding with no license plate. If a cause is true, why lie at all?

  • @Danbo342 ...try clicking back on the video a few seconds later and start the video again....the lag will be gone. Some Videos on youtube will be out of sync due to youtubes compression just go back about 20 secs after it has loaded and start again the lag will be gone.

  • Emotion eliciting snippets. 2 n3 sec.flashes of scenes. Bold and blatent lies told OVER AND OVER. Conspiracies SO BIG that they are incomprehensible to most. Goebbels would friggin pee with glee. OKC was a test run. Prep for a thing SO BIG, SOO unbelievable that Joe Public would believe ANYTHING that MSM and big "brother" tells him/her. Critical thinking is now a "terrorist trait" and common sense isn't common at all. Now we reap what our collective apathy/cognitive dissonance sows.

  • The ATFB it has been proven, stored detonators C-4 guns ammo and lots of other stuff that was illegal for them to store in that building. Before the building was torn down and evidence destroyed it was noted that chips in the concrete columns were on the inside of the building, not the outside of the columns. And a retired military demolitions expert stated a fertilizer bomb couldn't possibly have caused all that damage, and, the blast cone didn't line up with where the crater was,

  • @joebananatube General Parton(sp)? Air Force I think. Wrote the ordinance manuals. Everything from improvised demo to nukes. He called B.S. ANFO was diversionary. Evidence from a plethora of sources was denied into the trial, as well was OKC investigation and grand jury (as per their constitution.) Evidence shipped out and BURIED.Maniacaly brilliant the entire show was.MSM complicit JUST LIKE 911.And true to form,Americans will NEVER do SHIT ABOUT IT! They eat it up like poison cake and beg more

  • @rvlqcitizen Yeah, that sounds like the guy. Lame stream media isn't even entertaining, let alone useful for anything. There are just too many coincidences between this and 911 when it comes to the destruction of crucial evidence. How many people have to say that some of the blast came from inside? Whoever did the investigation belongs in jail. Or where McVeigh is.

  • Am I able to comment.

  • this is why you shouldn't bully slow withdrawn kids too much, they go to more extremes than normal people because they are more emotional.

  • 4409 saying people are making up video and audio that is funny since they have alot of faked videos or audio.

  • This 4409 group is dangerous. They are another home grown Bin Ladin.

    OMG it does not apear in ANY WAY that there were bombs inside the building. Not even a little bit.

  • @TheEodtch To say that any American disseminating info or their opinion thereof (whether true or not) is a "homegrown terrorist" borders on treason. Ever heard of the 1rst Amendment?Or do you have as much disdain for that as you seem to have for those who exercise critical thinking?Perhaps you would do well to read"Oklahoma City Bombing,The Politics of Treason."A VERY forthright book.No opinions, just the facts for you to take as you will.Please don't turn on you fellows for being true Americans

  • @rvlqcitizen No it doesn't border on treason, and I have the same 1st amendment as anyone else but you probably forget that part right. Did I say he shouldn't be aloud to talk? NO. I have read tons of so cald facts. People bend truths on both sides of any issue to make them look like facts. You seem to hve the problem with the 1st Amendment not me.

  • Always remember this: There are agencies in place in this world who could make you vanish from the face of this earth and then have your very own parents believe that you never existed. McVeigh is clearly another in a long line of Lee Harvey Oswald style patsies

  • @AceOfHeart2012 Yes if you mean McVeigh did it just like Lee Harvey Oswald did it. You are correct. Lee Harvey has been proven over and over to have done it alone. There is Zero facts stating otherwise. Not one.

  • @TheEodtch Which planet are you living on? Not one fact? I don't even know what to say to that. Good-bye comes to mind...

  • @AceOfHeart2012 Correct, I am from earth and you can not give one fact saying anyone other than Oswald did it. You can give speculation but see how you replyed and didn't give a fact? Exactly Thank you very much.

  • @TheEodtch I don't have to. This internet is chock full of proof. You must do your own due diligence. You just aren't far enough down the rabbit hole yet. Either that or you're an alphabet agency operative who gets paid to infiltrate the truth movement. We can usually spot you guys a mile away. Your Achilles heel is that try as you might, your naivety cannot be obfuscated. Continue your study grasshopper. I sense much anger in you. Just know that we are ALL evolving. Isn't that FANTASTIC?

  • @AceOfHeart2012 Exactly what someone with no facts would say. So your movement for the truth is secret? Hmm if you wanted the truth to get out would you want to keep it secret or tell people. Hmmm I have to think about that one a bit.

    Son I do hope you evolv out of your parents basement where you sit in the dark drinking mountain dew and eating your own zits.

    No FACTS on the net either. Maybe they are obfuscated.

  • @TheEodtch Is it just you and me or is it you and everyone else? Do you do this with everyone? You are on your own path. You sound like someone who's on an alphabet agency payroll. If you honestly believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK all by himself then it is perhaps you who need to cut back on the Mountain Dew. Just sayin'... This is my last communique. You are now wasting my time.

  • @AceOfHeart2012 It's not just you. I tell the truth with everyone. It has been proven over and over it was a single shotter. Alphabet agency? as opposed to an agency that spells its name with something other than the alphabet? I sure hope that was your last communication because you have nothing to say. Have a good life though.

  • Has anyone ever taken note that all of these Illuminati/Black Magick Blood Rituals always take place on or around Adolph Hitler's birthday of April 20th? Columbine. Oklahoma City Bombing. Deepwater Horizon Explosion. Weed Day (4/20). Virginia Tech. Coincidence? There is no such thing...

  • Mark Potok is a piece of SHIT!

  • Good Vid guys keep it up love the channel.

  • they put him to death just 5 yrs after the bombing...

    kinda strange huh?

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  • @dieredneckdie

    "Wait a minute...Wait a minute..." LoL.. 1st weren't U out to "ruin You Tube viewers days" ?

    Now 'U don't spend much time on You Tube'? HuH...WHAT???

    BTW, who gives a guy like U a job that doesn't know the meaning of 1st grade words like "buzzer"?

    Please (I'm begging U) tell me what it is that U do at work? What does your job pay?

    I know every smart phone or iPhone has You-Tube; I think U should ask for a raise.

    Did U do that Bob Marley homework I gave ya?

    Go giturdun

    1love

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  • except his buddies were losers

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  • oh spare me the details...shucks

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  • @dietrailertrashdie

    Spare me your lame excuses for a silly screen name. Who would care or get their day "ruined" by some troll they don't even know as you hide behind a beta You-Tube format w/ no pic???

    LMBAO...1love came from the 90s? LoL- look up Bob Marley after U look up "buzzer".

    I think he coined that phrase long before the 90s.

    Post a pic & if U look like a bad ass I'll shoot ya straight; if not keep trolling false bravery behind your keyboard like most cowards do on You-Tube.

    1love

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  • @dieredneckdie1

    If you need another man "on your side" you're doing more than just "speaking fag" you're tossing-salads too.

    The facts are your stupid racist screen name pops up so many times from arguing back & forth w/ the up-loader of this vid (as if you're looking for an internet date) a mistake was made & U got the message.

    get over it.

    It's the world wide web you KKK sister/mom fucker; so If U don't know a 1st grade word like "buzzer" or any other easy words.... Google it then.

    1love

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  • @diemuslimsdie1 Facts don't seem to get in your way at all! Douche bag

  • @diemuslimsdie1 .... He said before he was executed that eventually you will find out your government was behind it....he was a patsy. They killed this man faster than any man ever on death row.....there is a reason why.

  • @RP4409 4409 tells it like it is.

  • @RP4409 probably had something to do with all those uh... People in the building that got blown up. Yea.. im putting all my money on that.

  • A True Martyr,R.I.P.

  • @diemuslimsdie1 .....what I'm saying is that you're a typical STATIST.

  • @diemuslimsdie1 ....Downside? yes....we should limit opinions to only the elite on STATE controlled cable television, radio or to what YOU believe. How dare anyone have a different opinion other than yours. I should know that the TV is the only place you can find the truth....LMFAO

  • @RP4409

    You got some buzzer & commentary for everyone but this domestic terrorists?

    Here's an idea; just STFU & play the vid. WTF does his remorse matter for killing kids & adults?

    You Tube is filled w/ too many of you IDIOTS that are always looking for the boogie-man in some conspiracy. Lets say all of your paranoid BS were proven true;WTF are you prepared to do about it?

    Make another "buzzer" video? trailer-simpleton! Man I'm so sick of you STUPID fuckn cunts uploading BS

    1love

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  • In the 60's min interview, Tim is talking about the 1993 Waco siege

  • @Myytmovies .........uhhhh don't think so....good try though

  • A patsy, huh? What "patsy" would be so willing to take the blame for a bombing that killed 168 people? And was it "coincidence" that McVeigh knew all about the details of the bombing that the federal government supposedly had planned out? Even if he himself didn't trigger the bomb, he definitely took part in it, he was mad at the government, there's proof that McVeigh rented the truck, and the blast was centered around the truck! As for the cops before, they were incompetent: PLAIN and SIMPLE!

  • McVeigh IS a hero. I saw what all people should see.... He knew about the fucking systems push our hole world!

  • @mrt110883 i appologise that a satanic goverment has once agian framed a innocent american and fooled you into beleiving it, our goverment is run by the ILLUMINATI and we are not the only ones under attack, since the crusades up untill now they have been corrupting and controlling us, so why is it so easy to believe... BC THEY HAVE DONE THIS FOR CENTURYS, THERE MASTERS AT IT

  • @RP4409 did u see the lady in the red dress?

  • people dont care if it makes sense, theyll believe anything

  • I have read a lot of Mcveigh shit and the man is a fucking mastermind of his own game. I dont condone his blow up shit in ok - however - anyone that can throw down - build a bomb out of shit and fucking rock a gov't building is incredible. People have to realize that he is a person that was and is a very wise person that took apart everything he did and hung up his own shit. he needed no one and yes he became crazy - but if you study, read and hear his life - its a great dish of ice cream.

  • I always thought they found the one who did it to fast to be true ....I think he was brain washed into taking the fall for something the Goverment wanted to cover up ...I also noticed how fast his trial went and then his execution ...never seen that before ??Timothy McVeigh was just a pone for a cover up ..this is what I think ..not telling anybody else to see it my way

  • that fat pig cop fuck who tackled the old lady outta be hanged in front of an audience. To show what happends to tyrants that just "follow orders" to climb the fallin ladder. Let there be a revolution one day you motherfuckers we will see whos at whos mercy then. You try and come into my home and take my guns you will be full of buckshot and pistol rounds. IF you get out of the house that it. Fuck you tyrants!!!!!

  • what was that last quote from? at the last 10 seconds of the video?

  • keep up all the good work =)

  • All you have to know about 9/11 is the second plane was not shot down by our multi-billion dollar Air Force. All you have to know about the Oklahoma Bombing is not one ATF employee was in the office at the time of the explosion. The ATF occupied most of an entire floor.

  • lol i'm a waste of your time yet you still took the time to type the massage wich a few sentences were put together by a 10 year old. So your the one who needs to do research idiot. A fertilizer bomb isn't directional its 360 when it blows. The bomb used was directional. So ok dumbfuck keep wasting your time on people that are a waste of time as you said. You just contradicted yourself. Also i didn't listen to truthers dont need to. Not a brainwashed retard like you. ok sheep have a nice day.

  • excellent plz watch  Untitled.MSWMM caithness_0001war dogs.wmv

  • your prob John doe you dumbas . lmao so all the evidence his confession you shooting a video with a skull on it and wake up America logo and Im to believe you.

    ummmm 3 words GET A LIFE!! OR BETTER 2 WORDS GET JOB

  • Why doesn't anybody ask about the three other bombs removed by the bomb squad that day? The news sure clammed up after the initial reports. A fertilizer bomb couldn't have taken out reinforced concrete columns 50 feet away. McVeigh is a hero, the US government is the villain, the "terrorist" as usual.

  • GG for timothy mcveigh 168/1 !

  • @LAGunBroker Watch rules of engagement on google video

  • Why dont you fools open your eyes to the truth and learn You cant go around and forced your beleifs, laws and government on unbeleivers like Amish, Morman and Moslems and the like to turn them into terrorist like Timothy McVeigh; God or nature promised to send devil punishments like zionist, CIA , Ganges Khan like to those who force their beleifs, laws or government (Luciferian beleifs) on unbeleivers (unconditional free will beleivers like Jesus) and violated unconditional free will

  • But your told this and that shown a little puppett show and you believe it its sad. So many people brainwashed. Ever heard of Que Bono? Who benefits? Also does a bomb making anti gov expert, strike you as someone who would blow up a building then drive with the rental agreement and no plates speeding down the highway? Something tells me the guy who made that bomb was driving with a seatbelt at speed limit and no evidence or documents other then insurance and a license. Think about it sheeple.

  • LAgunbroker, your brainless moron who only knows what your told. Yet you believe people that always lie as a way of life they exploit these events like no tomorrow. You clearly do not think for yourself and should really learn how. There are countless facts about this that make about as much sense as you do. Timothy mcveigh was not an explosives expert in the military and thats what it would of took to pull this off.

  • @67DieHardPatriot454 Do some research on this asshole yourself, or are you just to damn lazy and would rather believe the bullshit this 4409 group spreads around? You! Have been brainwashed by these jerks lies! McViegh blew up the Fed building on the anniversary of the Waco siege, which he was at passing out fliers. He named most likely to succeed in computer programing in high school. He did interviews with several authors where he showed "No" remorse.

  • @LAGunBroker Listen you government agent the people are more intelligent then you can ever hope to be so stop with your lies and who am i....someone you don't want to piss that is if you don't won't trouble that's a promise slave.You know lilth and samael well i know them better then you or anyone for that matter ever will i was i'm above them in power.Another lie that they've told you and you believe them because your primitive idiots.I'm glad the human race is waking up to your tyranny and lie

  • @LAGunBroker and we both know what lie i'm refering to but for obvious reason we'll not go into such thing's over the internet just know i have plains for your so called deitys and they'll regret ever pissing me off.I already have force's superior to their own little minon of lilith & samael and you all will pay for defying me of course in your defense you weren't around when i told them how they were to guide you humans and btw your our desendants.

  • You can call me a nutjob if you feel the need to but i'm not affected by such words as i know the truth and know there is not a thing you or anyone can do to stop me.Lilths & Samael's desendants shall be freed from slavery and the lies you've all been lead to believe your entire life,i mean this isn't the first message like this i've willingly admited the latter yet lilth & samael haven't tryed to kill me because they know i'd defeat them and their kind would die with them.I hate the evil sluts.

  • @bkeener86 What the hell are you talking about? I don't know my Bible verses like I should but I do remember Lilth as being a demon.

  • @67DieHardPatriot454 Diehardpatriot? More like bored little twit looking for some type of drama to yourself a reason to keep living. You prove how stupid you are by saying it would take a military explosive expert to pull this off. His bomb was not complicated at all. You talk like he rigged up some type of thermal nuclear warhead. It was simple fertilizer, fuel and an ignition source. Instead of listening to "truthers" try your own research. Hell google his name . Your a waste of my time.

  • timothy mcviegh is the only one who knows somewhat of what happend. Obviously he was kept in the dark about things you can tell he dont know much, Its almost like hes trying to put the pieces together. His most famous quote one day you will find out your government was behind this.

  • wow people love to make shit up to support there own bullshit story. Koresh set fire to it while the government was shooting at him to kill? It was a mistake on the atf's part. Or was it? Mcveigh never said he did it or that he wanted to kill regular people.

  • mc veigh, great abnormal. How must we call those who defend this piece of shit?

  • @LAGunBroker McVeight did NOT belong to any racist organization!!!! Read his book which has lat interview months before he was executed

  • @abaskcasckbackj Did I say he belonged to a racist group? Did Koresh belong to one? Did Dahmer? Did Jim Jones? Your don't have to be a racist to be a lunitic. He is no hero or pattsy, instead he was a freak that got what he deserved and need to be forgotten. Truthers, as they want to be called, spend more time worrying about the criminal and less time concerned about the victims, like all the good people McVeigh killed that day. more like non-truthers to me

  • So what's the real story? Any good docs?

  • dude,,, lmao... 

  • @LAGunBroket... wow. You have no clue what your talking about. You need to do some research before you post. That video has long been verified as an attack by an Apache helo and the van had 2 kids in it. You need to get out more.. lol.

  • your fucking retarted you dont think there is a such thing as a good lier?? I felt terrible he fucking bombed a building i dont think he gave two fucks that day...

  • The video at 10:48 of "someone" firing on the van that "you" tag as having kids in it is bullshit. First off you try to make it seem the sniper was American but you show no proof and it's not in American. Your biggest mistake is you didn't cover up your voice enough! Man your full of so much bullshit.

  • I can't believe what I'm hearing! So because MSNBC is...well...being freaking MSNBC (i.e. fabricating stories as usual, this story being no exception), that makes McVeigh innocent 15 years after the fact???

    One thing that McVeigh was "right" on: the government basically let this happen(i.e., they let this nutcase Timothy McVeigh do exactly as he planned)!

  • @LAGunBroker ...Man, I can tell you watch wayyyyyyyyyyy to much TV and don't do any reading or do any research. I have a folder 5 inches thick of newspaper articles concerning the compound and the ATF admitted to setting the fire.....there is also a video of the ATF setting it on fire. Just google Waco: The Rules of Engagement and listen to the "911 waco tapes"

  • @RP4409 Read my profile boy, I haven't turned a TV on in probably four weeks or more. I have better things to do with my time than watch TV. I do know what happened at Waco and it's not from the TV or the bullshit stuff you claim to have. The dumbass media tried to blame the ATF by saying it was the tear gas canisters that set the fire but it's strange the fire started on the opposite end of the building and long after the tear gas had been fired. Even ex members said he did it.

  • @LAGunBroker It's to bad you didn't get shot when you where fighting to protect this government and country. This government is horrible. Why would you fight to protect it? People like you are what is wrong with this country. You just do whatever your masters (government) say to do and that sickens and disgusts me. You sir are a tool.

  • @twn5858 Fuck you bitch. It's sorry pieces of shit like you that is destroying this country. You and all your fucking pissing and moaning "poor me, the government is treating me bad". Why don't you grow a fucking pair and do something if your think it's so bad, Obviously you know how to run your gay ass little mouth, how bout backing up the shit you talk? Glad to see you think so much of our millitary, ones who has and is serving. Fucking little punk.

  • @LAGunBroker You sir are a tool and you are to dumb to realize it. I feel bad for you.

  • @twn5858 I'm a tool because I don't buy into all this bullshit you and all the other little nerds try to brain wash people with? But I'm a tool who has nothing to complain about in my life, unlike you. I can assure you my IQ is right up there with everyone else who has been successful in life. I looked at your profile and from I see you are just another whinning piece of shit that feels he shouldn't have to follow the law. Don't feel sorry for me, shove that pitty up your gay ass.

  • My son just rented a Ryder truck a few months ago when moving from Fort Polk to Fort Hood and all that was required is a valid drivers license.  You clam you have to have multiple forms of ID? All he showed them was his drivers license. Why would McVeigh have that shit in his car and why would he be speeding? Because he was just another nut case who thought he couldn't be caught. Why do you wear thar dumbass cap hiding you face???

  • Whats with the triple word play? I felt Rage Rage Rage. Then you can here the 4409 punk shout out extremist. Lied about it Lied about it Lied about it. What the hell dumbass. Anyone can make a tape twisting the truth but you have got to be the best. So lets see, your against any law enforcement, you believe the government has been murdering people right here in the US, you believe you believe you believe??? In hearing you own retard voice

  • This little turd likes to play sections of tapes just to try and make his point seem real. Hell if two reporters the government was using dogs as spies he would have that spread all over youtube the next day claiming everyone who owns a dog has a government spy living with them. Have you heard of false prohets? Well 4409 fits that to a T. He loves leading the sheep. He claims people who obey the law are sheep? The sheep are the ones buying into his garbage.

  • So now you retards are trying to make McVeigh some type of hero? Are just fucking retarded? So next I guess punks will be saying Bundy, Koresh, Jones, Dahmer and all the other nutt cases are inocent. Freaking punks makes me sick.

  • @LAGunBroker ...Apparently you watched some other video. How you perceived that we were trying to paint McVeigh as a hero is beyond me.

    Showing inconsistencies, lies, and distortions in the main steam media is not making someone out to be a hero, but hey, if you like being lied to keep watching MSNBC, CNN, and FOX news.

    Lastly, you lumping David Koresh in the same group as Dahmer and Bundy has me baffled because Koresh did not set fire to 100 men, woman, and children...the ATF did.

  • @RP4409 Doesn't matter how you paint it.. you're making him a hero.

  • @LAGunBroker McVeigh's not a hero, but the video is claiming he DIDN'T do it - at least not alone. Do you think the official story adds up? I personally am on the fence about this one.

  • @LAGunBroker the biggest murderer and oppressor in america is the american government

  • @slickbtk Then get the FUCk out! Nobody is forcing you to live here are they? So why do you stay?

  • @LAGunBroker your dumb

  • @slickbtk Wow! I hope you didn't strain that pea brain of yours coming up with that remark. And you my friend are ignorant.

  • @LAGunBroker nope no strain, or atleast no more strain than your brilliant "if you dont love it leave it" original remark. Your a dumb guy. Or atleast play one on youtube.

  • @slickbtk You sure? I could have sworn I heard a few brain cells pop while you were writing you quirky remark. Do you keep a pencil and pad by your bed just incase you come up with some quick remark in the middle of the night? What a fucking ignorant ass.

  • @LAGunBroker lol ok buddy

  • @LAGunBroker punks???

  • @LAGunBroker No but if any of this is true it's possible his little bomb never went off.Maybe he was hired and they wanted him to get caught who could know?But htere seems to be some kind of deception going on.

  • VERY WELL DONE! TM = PATSY!!!