Juda4praise I have no idea how that comment was made I think my account is being hacked maybe I said that before but if I did I didn't mean it in a prochoice way I am totally 100% prolife.
I am totally against abortion. It definitely is murder. That other comment I wrote I have no idea what happened I did NOT write that! Abortion is murder! Even if you're raped its not the babies fault. I don't see why you go to jail if you kill a man, but it's completely legal to kill a baby! It's plain murder.
this comment is for maz9913. im 14 and im adopted and no the reason why kids are put up for adoption isnt because their not wanted but because the birth parents think that they mmight not be able to give the child everything they deserve and they want them to have a better life. that is why i was adopted. whoever thinks that abortion is good is a murderer and should be put in prison.
well first of all im going to say that im not being a complete dick and telling everyone there wrong its just that adoption would be a little better say o the baby would have an terrible life and they would suffer the point is they would have life in the first place and they would most likely not live the most happiest lives ever but they still get to live
u keep saying that abortion is completely wrong but wat sort of life would a kid have knwing they were never really wanted also u say put the baby up for adoption but are u stupid enough to think every child gets adopted and lives happily ever after i knw rape aint the baby fault but if the mother was forced to have the child the baby will suffer and the mother might even abuse the child There are many reasons y people have abortion i would never say its completely wrong or right
@maz9914The mother can place the child for adoption.I was definitely wanted by my adoptive parents.I was conceived when 8 men raped my mom.She is a hero cuz she overcame society's and her mom's death wish on me & shame.You wouldn't want someone to kill you for the crime of your father right? Neither did I. People should think while it's still legal.When people can't say right or wrong they risk it happening to them.Being exterminated that is.
How is that 'bunch of cells' different than what it will be 10 years from now? I would only allow abortion if the mother was sexually assaulted or if her hips haven't developed to the point where she might die. And ever heard of ADOPTION? There are tons of adults that don't want to have children on their own and are willing to take another person's child. Also, there are approximately 42 million abortions that take place every year. How many of those are rapes? Not a lot...
A sperm cell is potential life. Eggs are potential life. Carbon atoms are potential life. Lol. Of course it's probably useless to comment now, since this was in April.
emnkate: there is no right to live inside of and off the body of another person. whether it is a human life or not, it does not have a right to strip a woman of her bodily sovereingty by forcing her to sustain its life. and removing choice for rape victims is enacting a second rape upon her by taking away the control of her body again. it might not be the fetuses fault but that doesnt mean she is obligated to carry it against her will.
I'm sorry for her loss, I know with this one we worried for months. If the baby were 6 months early, it would probably be around 3 months. Currently the standard for viability is around 22 weeks (4 and a half months). With medical abilities increasing, the age of potential viability has increasingly lowered and may soon lower to the point where late first trimester babies can be viable with medical assistance.
imfrommattapan: out of curiosity, since this child is part of the "divine plan", was the rape itself part of the divine plan as well? Also, is the woman breaking with the "divine plan" if she takes emergency contraception (Plan B)?
emnkate: There are many reasons why I wouldn't want to carry my rapist's child, not at all related to "stretch marks and hormones". It's not so simple as "don't blame the "baby" for something that's the man's fault", I can assure you that it's a tough decision.
@PrincessBecca04 God took a bad situation and gave a gift. Children are a blessing that few people have eyes to see. I was placed in the camp of the enemy to give glory to my creator. The rape had nothing to do with God but selfish criminals. Killing a child is killing a child no way around it. Plan B may be something humans choose but that isn't God's plan. The rape is plan B too. juda4praise(dot)com to see all the lives conceived in rape. Lots more than you realize. Many more silent heroes.
Wow, that was retarded...killing a HUMAN life, you can't compare killing a spider to killing an actual human. And plus if you don't want to have the baby, just because it would be a inconvenience to your life, doesn't mean you kill it. Just give it up for adoption, its not you're that hard.
If having an abortion is murder because there is potential for life then masturbation is murder because those sperm could create children. A large sum of fertilized eggs end up in the menstral cycle so as george carlin put it any woman who has had more than one period is a serial killer.
Sometimes when sperm meets the egg it is still lost in your period so how is that life?If youre so pro-life perhaps the better thing to make a post about is stopping the death penalty or stopping war
well then thats not abortion thats simply a lost egg that met the sperm. yeah its life but its not like it was intentionally lost.
so i don't see the point that your trying to make. oh and you wouldn't want me to get started with the death penalty and war. its ugly. perhaps if your so worried about it though you can make your own videos about it.
My point is an egg that met sperm is not a human being reguardless of if you got rid of it intentionally or not otherwise you'd have to have a funeral every 28 days in case you lost an egg. Deciding if someone who has been raped should have an abortion should be up to the rape victim especially if you have not been in their shoes how can you decide whats best for them ?
no. an egg is not life. i said this. and yes when the egg meets the sperm it IS life. think of it this way. don't you need air to breathe? food to eat? clothes to keep you warm? well. a baby in the womb. doesn't it need oxygen and food from its mother? i beleive you could classify that as life, no? also the point of getting raped. what if a man shot your family if someone was related to the man who shot your family would you go and kill them? your blaming another life for someone else's mistake.
if a sperm CELL hits an egg (operating word here is cell) and it is lost in the menstral cycle it is no different from aborting it! Secondly that is the worst analogy ever! It's more like a person killing your family and you are FORCED to let that persons child move in with you. Every time you see that kids face you see the face of your family's killer. Ive been through a rape and if anyone had suggested to me that it would be immoral if i didnt carry his child id sock them in the face.
I used to think the way you do if not worse i used to judge people who though abortion was ok . I thought they were murderers bottom line until what happened happened and i realized that if i were pregnant thank God i wasnt i couldnt judge someone for doing what they felt was right. Personally rape is the only case where i would consider abortion but until you are in someone else's shoes you dont know. Its not like im pro abortion or anti choice its that life is pragmatic and not so clear cut.
how do you know i haven't been in those shoes. and personally i don't judge nayone who does that i don't judge people who are gay or like porn. i don't judge. i just believe what i believe and carry on and try to change people's descisions. i'm not telling them that they're bad people. i'm just trying to help them. if you think thats wrong i would hate to know what you think is right.
You can breath on your own and you don't require someone's body to live. There may be potential for life, but it isn't life yet. Although, I do think abortion should be illegal after 5 months of pregnancy. After that the fetus is developed enough to live outside the womb. No one has the right to tell someone what to do with thier body.
9PM thing? Okay, over here in this miserable place I like to call England, if something deeply unpleasant comes on the TV it won't be shown until after the said time, due to the horrible content. So I was saying your cousin is post 9PM material. But fear not, I was being as serious as someone who isn't very serious. As in not very serious. Well done for not threatening me with Hell, that's what usually happens :(
yes abortion is wrong, but I think if the person is young and having the baby could really do damage to them, then they should get an abortion, either way one life would be lost. Or if the baby had like some really painful phisical deformation, why make the child suffer through life?
self than have continue with the pregnancy, then that should be her choice. No one can imagine what the situation is like until they are faced with it. And I am just wondering, why should the woman have to put up with stretch marks, and all the other things pregnancy does to her body? Could it not be considered another assault?
psh. assualt, its not the babies fault a man raped you. its the mans fault and by aborting the baby you're making the baby pay not the man who raped you. its stretch marks and hormones. you're not willing to go through that to spare a life. you would rather live with killing a life? you're crazyyyy.
I think abortion should be used as a form of contraceptive ie. woman gets pregnant because she chose to have sex, and something went wrong, but if a woman has been raped, and would rather kill her
CVK92, anything dead cannot grow remember that, so in the process of conception you have to beleive life is formed, there is no other way. Then tell us at what stage of the process does the spirit enter the fetus if not at the fertilization process, and why would it enter at a later stage rather than in the begining? i can tell you life starts at conception because, God says so and cannot lie.
CVK92, anything dead cannot not grow remember that, so in the process of conception you have to beleive life is formed, there is no other way. Then tell us at what stage of the process does the spirit enter the fetus if not at the fertilization process, and why would it enter at a later stage rather than in the begining? i can tell you life starts at conception because, God says so and cannot lie.
seeing as to how a baby cannot live on its own until what 6 months? i do not consider it alive. now you can tell me all that god stuff and ill listen but i most likely will not agree. and if anyone calls theirself pro life then i wonder if they support stem cell research? which would save thousands of lives
Actually a baby can survive outside of the womb before 6 months. I know a little girl who was born at 4 months and survived and is now a healthy beautiful 2 year old with no health problems. Also, (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) I believe the only stem cell research that has cured disease so far is adult stem cell research (over 40 diseases). Embryonic stem cell research has yet to cure any.
Embryonic stem cell could work its whether or not we are going to try and make it work. listen i personally wouldnt want my gf or wife have an abortion but for me to take my belief and impose on others is wrong. It isnt murder and to correct myself a childs chances of surviving before 6 months are slim. this is my case. Its their right to have an abortion i dont think its wrong and theres no proof that its wrong. It isnt murder as a doctor.
first of all different people have different beliefs. what i am stating is say you are a christian you might say well its against the bible. well theres no mention of it in the bible and well you may say though shall not kill but theres an exeption for war. theres no proof that abortion is murder.. get it? your morals are different than others. let the doctors tell us whats murder and not.
sure lets let all the doctors tell us what to do... since when did doctors decide upon morals. the only thing they are good for is saving lives not taking away. thanks :) oh and p.s. i have never heard an exception for war ever in the bible. EVER.
no you misunderstood me. what i am saying is people protest abortion based on the bible but yet they dont protest war. no doctors and scientist dont decide morals they decide whats living and whats not.
i find it immoral to force a rape victim to have that child i find it immoral to force a mother whos life is in danger (which also in dangers the babies) but no the so called pro-life will stay away from talking about that. and another thing if you get rid of abortion you have mnore teens with babies struggling to get by, you have more kids growing up in poverty and you have adoption agencies overflowing with children that cant find a home.
its not that they feel they have to have an abortion. Its that they arent ready for parenting. address the pregnancy rate you solve the abortion problem. thats what a bunch of so called pro lifers fail to realize. Pro abortion is a false term for me and many like me. I support a womans right to choose but i dont like what they do. so to solve the problem i look at what causes it. alot of people think because i support a womans right to choose then i somehow agree with abortion.
@CVK92 I know it is immoral to kill anyone who is innocent and to kill a baby has got to be the worst. Would you like it if someone killed you because your father was a criminal. Don't answer you know you wouldn't. There are more families wanting children than there are children to be adopted. Teens with babies? Stop having sex! If you do get pregnant place the baby with someone who will love them. I am grateful my mother is a hero and not a selfish narrow minded person.
you teach abstinence to a child at a young age. reduce teen pregnancies and there will be way less abortions. you dont solve the problem by protesting a clinic and calling people baby killers. pro-lifers fail to look at the real problem. sure lets stop abortions but do nothing about teenage pregnancies. thats immoral. thats where i stand.
Pt1. I didn't read all the way down to the end of the post, i didn't know that you were raped i'm sorry to here that, and i hope you are fully better in GOD'S NAME I PRAY. once people move back to God, then life will be better for all, but, do not forget we all have trials that we are able to bear according to God's mission for our life's purpose.
Pt2. you were raped this is no doubt very terrible, and sinful on behalf of the raper, but, knowing God is the reason why he will give you strenght to bear your burdens. breed, and keep the child, and hold it up to God in knowing that out of this pain there is a divine purpose for this child.
Pt1. PepperMinesse, life begins at conception you are wrong. Can i ask, if you beleive in God? if it's too personal don't answer. That clump you are refering to is what God, designed in his all knowing, and powerful wisdom, God saw that it was fit, and it was done, and should not be compared to something less than a spider you offend Him.
Pt2. you in turn are saying the life process is more, or less not a special thing "ahh" but, how quickly that little clump would be appreciated if humans couldn't breed, and are on the brink of exstinction. we are already heading that way through with a nuclear war. mankind's selfishness, and greed will be our downfall think about it.
PepperMinesse, rape is horrible but, if someone was raped the child would not be a thing, it is a life, who would be innocent in all this. And out of this tragic, and discusting act commited against a woman God, has a purpose for that child.
(this should follow the very last comment, as I wrote so that there would be flow.) and how my body changed? If you still think yes after reading this, than you must be a pretty crazy person. I don't care what you do with this info. I hope I at least managed to make you think.
completly agree. imfrommattapan read what he had to say and you'll understand. everyone has to make sacrafices in life. and you're selfish to believe that people need to feel bad for you. abortion is wrong.
I am betting you've never been raped, so you'd have no idea what you are talking about. What if because of the rape the woman is sent over the edge? what if becoming pregnant from the rape was the last straw, and the thought of having that "thing" in you was enough to make you want to die? what then? What if the only way for the woman to survive was to remove the clump of forming cells that are invading her body? Do you still not care? Is she still a murderer? I hope for your *cont
sake that you are never put in that situation. It would really suck for you to have to admit you were wrong. That clump of cells is closer to a spider than it is to a human being. At the stage that the embryo is aborted it has no thought, no feeling, no emotion, nothing. It doesn't even have nerves yet. It is nothing more than cells dividing and multiplying, starting to form what it has the potential to become. It is not human, at this stage it is even less than a spider. *cont
But, what if the thought of having it inside her was enough to make the woman what to die? Let me tell you a story, cause i have some experience here, when I was 17, I was kidnapped and held for three days by three "men". They raped and tortured me, and it was amazing that I survived the physical abuse they inflicted upon me. Somehow I managed to live, and when I went back to the group home where I was living, but I was denied medical attention for a full week. *cont
when they finally did take me to the hospital because the cuts and cigarette burns I had were infected, there was no option for the morning after pill, and after I was treated I was sent home. a few weeks later it was apparent that I was pregnant. What was left of my very fragile strength was done in when I heard those words, I had not escaped. a piece of one of them was still inside me. It was like I was still there tied to that bed with them hurting me. I couldn't get away from it.*cont
I was considering suicide every minute of every day, and unable to function on even the smallest level. I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, didn't bother to even get out of bed or change my pjs. Nothing. This lasted for about a week after I discovered I was pregnant, and I ended up miscarrying due to extreme trauma. I was so relived and HAPPY that it was gone. I started to improve enough to shower and eat small amounts and was able to function once more. *cont
I would not have survived that pregnancy. I was told that if it had progressed that I would have died because of the internal injuries I had from the rapes. I am sure I would have commited suicide before the pregnancy had a chance to kill me. I do not care if you reply to me. That isn't what I am looking for, though you do have the option if you wish. My reason for saying this is because when you said *I don't care if they were raped or not, you shouldn't kill a baby* I felt ill. *cont
You don't care?? the cells are more important than a living breathing person with feelings, and emotions? A person who has been brutalized, who had there rights and their voice taken from them? I was forced, I was hurt, and it nearly undid me. But none of that should matter? I should just be let this lump of cells grow, and change the inside of my body, to sap my energy, and change my hormones, to leave stretchmarks that will remind me for the rest of my life of what was done to me? *cont
How can u compare a spider to a baby. Its like comparing a tree to a human. I mean they are both liveing i mean come on. Abortion is so wrong in every way
the animal argument is stupid...animals don't have souls, so the blond girl is right in saying that that is different. and if you get raped in high school and end up pregnant and a baby could potentially "ruin your life" there is always the option of putting that baby up for adoption which is the perfect alternative. Yay! Everybody wins!
Abortion is cold blooded, luciferian, murder no matter when it's done. It doesn't matter if the child has a heart, a spine, can feel pain, etc. It's still human life (which must be valued as higher than a spider) and it's still MURDER. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was a luciferian and publically a hardcore racist. She wrote about mass murdering blacks in her own papers. Watch EndGame on google video and you might realise why they love abortion and death. They get off on it.
Juda4praise I have no idea how that comment was made I think my account is being hacked maybe I said that before but if I did I didn't mean it in a prochoice way I am totally 100% prolife.
crazyability 1 year ago
I am totally against abortion. It definitely is murder. That other comment I wrote I have no idea what happened I did NOT write that! Abortion is murder! Even if you're raped its not the babies fault. I don't see why you go to jail if you kill a man, but it's completely legal to kill a baby! It's plain murder.
crazyability 1 year ago
Abortion rules
HowardSternn 1 year ago
Only one percent of people who abort are raped!
crazyability 2 years ago
@crazyability I am doing research that will soon disprove this. More women are silent and filled with shame than 1%.
juda4praise 1 year ago
1:40 - "But what if they get raped?"
Kill the rapist, not the baby.
Patrick1776Henry 2 years ago
ya cuz u kno once someone rapes u ur defiantly gonna find them
crash9220 2 years ago
this comment is for maz9913. im 14 and im adopted and no the reason why kids are put up for adoption isnt because their not wanted but because the birth parents think that they mmight not be able to give the child everything they deserve and they want them to have a better life. that is why i was adopted. whoever thinks that abortion is good is a murderer and should be put in prison.
shialover101 2 years ago
well first of all im going to say that im not being a complete dick and telling everyone there wrong its just that adoption would be a little better say o the baby would have an terrible life and they would suffer the point is they would have life in the first place and they would most likely not live the most happiest lives ever but they still get to live
KILLERQUACK32 2 years ago
u keep saying that abortion is completely wrong but wat sort of life would a kid have knwing they were never really wanted also u say put the baby up for adoption but are u stupid enough to think every child gets adopted and lives happily ever after i knw rape aint the baby fault but if the mother was forced to have the child the baby will suffer and the mother might even abuse the child There are many reasons y people have abortion i would never say its completely wrong or right
maz9914 3 years ago
i really dislike people insulting my intelligence...
oh well. i'm over it.
emnkate 3 years ago
@maz9914The mother can place the child for adoption.I was definitely wanted by my adoptive parents.I was conceived when 8 men raped my mom.She is a hero cuz she overcame society's and her mom's death wish on me & shame.You wouldn't want someone to kill you for the crime of your father right? Neither did I. People should think while it's still legal.When people can't say right or wrong they risk it happening to them.Being exterminated that is.
juda4praise 1 year ago
How is that 'bunch of cells' different than what it will be 10 years from now? I would only allow abortion if the mother was sexually assaulted or if her hips haven't developed to the point where she might die. And ever heard of ADOPTION? There are tons of adults that don't want to have children on their own and are willing to take another person's child. Also, there are approximately 42 million abortions that take place every year. How many of those are rapes? Not a lot...
GigaOutrage 3 years ago
A sperm cell is potential life. Eggs are potential life. Carbon atoms are potential life. Lol. Of course it's probably useless to comment now, since this was in April.
Emperorlawson 3 years ago
time doesn't make opinions useless. :)
emnkate 3 years ago
Okay. Not a bad video. Favorited.
Emperorlawson 3 years ago
@Emperorlawson A fertilized egg is not potential life. IT IS LIFE!
juda4praise 1 year ago
is that you that smells like peanutbutter..haha
00andrealynn00 3 years ago
emnkate: there is no right to live inside of and off the body of another person. whether it is a human life or not, it does not have a right to strip a woman of her bodily sovereingty by forcing her to sustain its life. and removing choice for rape victims is enacting a second rape upon her by taking away the control of her body again. it might not be the fetuses fault but that doesnt mean she is obligated to carry it against her will.
leiapeison 3 years ago
lovely...
emnkate 3 years ago
my aunts baby was 6 months early and didnt make it
Terrin123456789 3 years ago
I'm sorry for her loss, I know with this one we worried for months. If the baby were 6 months early, it would probably be around 3 months. Currently the standard for viability is around 22 weeks (4 and a half months). With medical abilities increasing, the age of potential viability has increasingly lowered and may soon lower to the point where late first trimester babies can be viable with medical assistance.
PrincessBecca04 3 years ago
imfrommattapan: out of curiosity, since this child is part of the "divine plan", was the rape itself part of the divine plan as well? Also, is the woman breaking with the "divine plan" if she takes emergency contraception (Plan B)?
emnkate: There are many reasons why I wouldn't want to carry my rapist's child, not at all related to "stretch marks and hormones". It's not so simple as "don't blame the "baby" for something that's the man's fault", I can assure you that it's a tough decision.
PrincessBecca04 3 years ago 2
@PrincessBecca04 God took a bad situation and gave a gift. Children are a blessing that few people have eyes to see. I was placed in the camp of the enemy to give glory to my creator. The rape had nothing to do with God but selfish criminals. Killing a child is killing a child no way around it. Plan B may be something humans choose but that isn't God's plan. The rape is plan B too. juda4praise(dot)com to see all the lives conceived in rape. Lots more than you realize. Many more silent heroes.
juda4praise 1 year ago
ok i dont have time to read evryone elses comments but here are some extremley correct views of abortion
Terrin123456789 3 years ago
Wow, that was retarded...killing a HUMAN life, you can't compare killing a spider to killing an actual human. And plus if you don't want to have the baby, just because it would be a inconvenience to your life, doesn't mean you kill it. Just give it up for adoption, its not you're that hard.
BlackShinobiKitten 3 years ago
jee thanks. how would you feel if an actual retarded person read this?
nice to see how sensitive you are.
emnkate 3 years ago
If having an abortion is murder because there is potential for life then masturbation is murder because those sperm could create children. A large sum of fertilized eggs end up in the menstral cycle so as george carlin put it any woman who has had more than one period is a serial killer.
AnonoMrs 3 years ago
nice try. but i'm talking about conception.
when the sperm meets the egg.
that is when their is life.
emnkate 3 years ago
Sometimes when sperm meets the egg it is still lost in your period so how is that life?If youre so pro-life perhaps the better thing to make a post about is stopping the death penalty or stopping war
krissy4nik 3 years ago
well then thats not abortion thats simply a lost egg that met the sperm. yeah its life but its not like it was intentionally lost.
so i don't see the point that your trying to make. oh and you wouldn't want me to get started with the death penalty and war. its ugly. perhaps if your so worried about it though you can make your own videos about it.
fair enough? i think so. :) have a nice day.
emnkate 3 years ago
My point is an egg that met sperm is not a human being reguardless of if you got rid of it intentionally or not otherwise you'd have to have a funeral every 28 days in case you lost an egg. Deciding if someone who has been raped should have an abortion should be up to the rape victim especially if you have not been in their shoes how can you decide whats best for them ?
krissy4nik 3 years ago
no. an egg is not life. i said this. and yes when the egg meets the sperm it IS life. think of it this way. don't you need air to breathe? food to eat? clothes to keep you warm? well. a baby in the womb. doesn't it need oxygen and food from its mother? i beleive you could classify that as life, no? also the point of getting raped. what if a man shot your family if someone was related to the man who shot your family would you go and kill them? your blaming another life for someone else's mistake.
emnkate 3 years ago
if a sperm CELL hits an egg (operating word here is cell) and it is lost in the menstral cycle it is no different from aborting it! Secondly that is the worst analogy ever! It's more like a person killing your family and you are FORCED to let that persons child move in with you. Every time you see that kids face you see the face of your family's killer. Ive been through a rape and if anyone had suggested to me that it would be immoral if i didnt carry his child id sock them in the face.
krissy4nik 3 years ago
okay. you believe what you believe.
i don't know you and i'm mature enough
to listen to your opinion and think
about what you say. so its all good.
all i ask is that you do that same and
think about it, just think of murder.
and think of a baby in the womb.
do you really think that it isn't
a person.. a defensless baby?
emnkate 3 years ago
I used to think the way you do if not worse i used to judge people who though abortion was ok . I thought they were murderers bottom line until what happened happened and i realized that if i were pregnant thank God i wasnt i couldnt judge someone for doing what they felt was right. Personally rape is the only case where i would consider abortion but until you are in someone else's shoes you dont know. Its not like im pro abortion or anti choice its that life is pragmatic and not so clear cut.
krissy4nik 3 years ago
how do you know i haven't been in those shoes. and personally i don't judge nayone who does that i don't judge people who are gay or like porn. i don't judge. i just believe what i believe and carry on and try to change people's descisions. i'm not telling them that they're bad people. i'm just trying to help them. if you think thats wrong i would hate to know what you think is right.
emnkate 3 years ago
actually, it is life when it can live on its own.
brokenskyy 3 years ago
well gee. then you must be denying i'm not life. because i surely couldn't live on my own.
emnkate 3 years ago
You can breath on your own and you don't require someone's body to live. There may be potential for life, but it isn't life yet. Although, I do think abortion should be illegal after 5 months of pregnancy. After that the fetus is developed enough to live outside the womb. No one has the right to tell someone what to do with thier body.
brokenskyy 3 years ago
believe what you will. why are you trying so hard to prove your point to me?
emnkate 3 years ago
the blonde is sooo right!
abortion sucks
FrecklePoof 3 years ago
yay. i love you.
:)
emnkate 3 years ago
ha okay well you're kinda fuunny.
england. do you live near the capitol?
There's a hole in the world like a great black pit
and the vermin of the world inhabit it
and its morals aren't worth what a pig could spit
and it goes by the name of London.
turning beauty to filth and greed...
I too have sailed the world and seen its wonders,
for the cruelty of men is as wonderous as Peru
but there's no place like London!
emnkate 3 years ago
The one on the right scares the shit out of me.
JamesFFC 3 years ago
the one named JamesFFC scares the shit out of me.
emnkate 3 years ago
Are you the one on the right? If so, it has passed 9PM and I will not talk to you until the sun has come up.
And good!
JamesFFC 3 years ago
i'm the one on the left my cousin is the one on the right. i don't understand the 9 pm thing though..?
emnkate 3 years ago
9PM thing? Okay, over here in this miserable place I like to call England, if something deeply unpleasant comes on the TV it won't be shown until after the said time, due to the horrible content. So I was saying your cousin is post 9PM material. But fear not, I was being as serious as someone who isn't very serious. As in not very serious. Well done for not threatening me with Hell, that's what usually happens :(
JamesFFC 3 years ago
yes abortion is wrong, but I think if the person is young and having the baby could really do damage to them, then they should get an abortion, either way one life would be lost. Or if the baby had like some really painful phisical deformation, why make the child suffer through life?
EmoChick9001 3 years ago
thanks for your input :)
emnkate 3 years ago
sorry, that should have read " I don't think abortion should be used as a form of contraceptive"
LuthienC 3 years ago
self than have continue with the pregnancy, then that should be her choice. No one can imagine what the situation is like until they are faced with it. And I am just wondering, why should the woman have to put up with stretch marks, and all the other things pregnancy does to her body? Could it not be considered another assault?
LuthienC 3 years ago
psh. assualt, its not the babies fault a man raped you. its the mans fault and by aborting the baby you're making the baby pay not the man who raped you. its stretch marks and hormones. you're not willing to go through that to spare a life. you would rather live with killing a life? you're crazyyyy.
emnkate 3 years ago
I think abortion should be used as a form of contraceptive ie. woman gets pregnant because she chose to have sex, and something went wrong, but if a woman has been raped, and would rather kill her
LuthienC 3 years ago
everytime a women gets raped she isn't going to die. thats one of the most ridiculous things i have ever heard in my entire life.
emnkate 3 years ago
sorry for the typing error
CVK92, anything dead cannot grow remember that, so in the process of conception you have to beleive life is formed, there is no other way. Then tell us at what stage of the process does the spirit enter the fetus if not at the fertilization process, and why would it enter at a later stage rather than in the begining? i can tell you life starts at conception because, God says so and cannot lie.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
CVK92, anything dead cannot not grow remember that, so in the process of conception you have to beleive life is formed, there is no other way. Then tell us at what stage of the process does the spirit enter the fetus if not at the fertilization process, and why would it enter at a later stage rather than in the begining? i can tell you life starts at conception because, God says so and cannot lie.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
emnkate, your welcome.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
seeing as to how a baby cannot live on its own until what 6 months? i do not consider it alive. now you can tell me all that god stuff and ill listen but i most likely will not agree. and if anyone calls theirself pro life then i wonder if they support stem cell research? which would save thousands of lives
CVK92 3 years ago
Actually a baby can survive outside of the womb before 6 months. I know a little girl who was born at 4 months and survived and is now a healthy beautiful 2 year old with no health problems. Also, (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) I believe the only stem cell research that has cured disease so far is adult stem cell research (over 40 diseases). Embryonic stem cell research has yet to cure any.
PrincessBecca04 3 years ago
go princess becca!
:)
emnkate 3 years ago
Embryonic stem cell could work its whether or not we are going to try and make it work. listen i personally wouldnt want my gf or wife have an abortion but for me to take my belief and impose on others is wrong. It isnt murder and to correct myself a childs chances of surviving before 6 months are slim. this is my case. Its their right to have an abortion i dont think its wrong and theres no proof that its wrong. It isnt murder as a doctor.
CVK92 3 years ago
what do you mean theres no proof its wrong?
theres no proof that murder is wrong...
do you need proof that stealing is wrong?
i think its all a case of good morals.
emnkate 3 years ago
first of all different people have different beliefs. what i am stating is say you are a christian you might say well its against the bible. well theres no mention of it in the bible and well you may say though shall not kill but theres an exeption for war. theres no proof that abortion is murder.. get it? your morals are different than others. let the doctors tell us whats murder and not.
CVK92 3 years ago
sure lets let all the doctors tell us what to do... since when did doctors decide upon morals. the only thing they are good for is saving lives not taking away. thanks :) oh and p.s. i have never heard an exception for war ever in the bible. EVER.
emnkate 3 years ago
no you misunderstood me. what i am saying is people protest abortion based on the bible but yet they dont protest war. no doctors and scientist dont decide morals they decide whats living and whats not.
CVK92 3 years ago
i find it immoral to force a rape victim to have that child i find it immoral to force a mother whos life is in danger (which also in dangers the babies) but no the so called pro-life will stay away from talking about that. and another thing if you get rid of abortion you have mnore teens with babies struggling to get by, you have more kids growing up in poverty and you have adoption agencies overflowing with children that cant find a home.
CVK92 3 years ago 3
i agree with u their a lots of different reasons y people feel they need 2 have an abortion
maz9914 3 years ago
its not that they feel they have to have an abortion. Its that they arent ready for parenting. address the pregnancy rate you solve the abortion problem. thats what a bunch of so called pro lifers fail to realize. Pro abortion is a false term for me and many like me. I support a womans right to choose but i dont like what they do. so to solve the problem i look at what causes it. alot of people think because i support a womans right to choose then i somehow agree with abortion.
CVK92 3 years ago
@CVK92 I know it is immoral to kill anyone who is innocent and to kill a baby has got to be the worst. Would you like it if someone killed you because your father was a criminal. Don't answer you know you wouldn't. There are more families wanting children than there are children to be adopted. Teens with babies? Stop having sex! If you do get pregnant place the baby with someone who will love them. I am grateful my mother is a hero and not a selfish narrow minded person.
juda4praise 1 year ago
you teach abstinence to a child at a young age. reduce teen pregnancies and there will be way less abortions. you dont solve the problem by protesting a clinic and calling people baby killers. pro-lifers fail to look at the real problem. sure lets stop abortions but do nothing about teenage pregnancies. thats immoral. thats where i stand.
CVK92 3 years ago
nice to know.
emnkate 3 years ago
i know....isnt it?
CVK92 3 years ago
Pt1. I didn't read all the way down to the end of the post, i didn't know that you were raped i'm sorry to here that, and i hope you are fully better in GOD'S NAME I PRAY. once people move back to God, then life will be better for all, but, do not forget we all have trials that we are able to bear according to God's mission for our life's purpose.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
thanks for agreeing and getting my point through. :)
emnkate 3 years ago
Pt2. you were raped this is no doubt very terrible, and sinful on behalf of the raper, but, knowing God is the reason why he will give you strenght to bear your burdens. breed, and keep the child, and hold it up to God in knowing that out of this pain there is a divine purpose for this child.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
Pt1. PepperMinesse, life begins at conception you are wrong. Can i ask, if you beleive in God? if it's too personal don't answer. That clump you are refering to is what God, designed in his all knowing, and powerful wisdom, God saw that it was fit, and it was done, and should not be compared to something less than a spider you offend Him.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
Pt2. you in turn are saying the life process is more, or less not a special thing "ahh" but, how quickly that little clump would be appreciated if humans couldn't breed, and are on the brink of exstinction. we are already heading that way through with a nuclear war. mankind's selfishness, and greed will be our downfall think about it.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
PepperMinesse, rape is horrible but, if someone was raped the child would not be a thing, it is a life, who would be innocent in all this. And out of this tragic, and discusting act commited against a woman God, has a purpose for that child.
imfrommattapan 3 years ago
(this should follow the very last comment, as I wrote so that there would be flow.) and how my body changed? If you still think yes after reading this, than you must be a pretty crazy person. I don't care what you do with this info. I hope I at least managed to make you think.
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
alright well i'm sorry you were raped
and i believe in god and the bible.
it clearly states abortion is wrong
no questions asked. you could give a baby
up for adoption. stretch marks and hormonal changes are a small sacrifice to save that
babies life. so thank for making me think :)
emnkate 3 years ago
where in the bible does it clearly state abortion is wrong?
LuthienC 3 years ago
okay i don't know the exact verse.
but duh. i go to church. i've been
told many a time that abortion is wrong.
anyone with a kind strong morals would
completly agree. imfrommattapan read what he had to say and you'll understand. everyone has to make sacrafices in life. and you're selfish to believe that people need to feel bad for you. abortion is wrong.
emnkate 3 years ago
I am betting you've never been raped, so you'd have no idea what you are talking about. What if because of the rape the woman is sent over the edge? what if becoming pregnant from the rape was the last straw, and the thought of having that "thing" in you was enough to make you want to die? what then? What if the only way for the woman to survive was to remove the clump of forming cells that are invading her body? Do you still not care? Is she still a murderer? I hope for your *cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
sake that you are never put in that situation. It would really suck for you to have to admit you were wrong. That clump of cells is closer to a spider than it is to a human being. At the stage that the embryo is aborted it has no thought, no feeling, no emotion, nothing. It doesn't even have nerves yet. It is nothing more than cells dividing and multiplying, starting to form what it has the potential to become. It is not human, at this stage it is even less than a spider. *cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
But, what if the thought of having it inside her was enough to make the woman what to die? Let me tell you a story, cause i have some experience here, when I was 17, I was kidnapped and held for three days by three "men". They raped and tortured me, and it was amazing that I survived the physical abuse they inflicted upon me. Somehow I managed to live, and when I went back to the group home where I was living, but I was denied medical attention for a full week. *cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
when they finally did take me to the hospital because the cuts and cigarette burns I had were infected, there was no option for the morning after pill, and after I was treated I was sent home. a few weeks later it was apparent that I was pregnant. What was left of my very fragile strength was done in when I heard those words, I had not escaped. a piece of one of them was still inside me. It was like I was still there tied to that bed with them hurting me. I couldn't get away from it.*cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
I was considering suicide every minute of every day, and unable to function on even the smallest level. I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, didn't bother to even get out of bed or change my pjs. Nothing. This lasted for about a week after I discovered I was pregnant, and I ended up miscarrying due to extreme trauma. I was so relived and HAPPY that it was gone. I started to improve enough to shower and eat small amounts and was able to function once more. *cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
I would not have survived that pregnancy. I was told that if it had progressed that I would have died because of the internal injuries I had from the rapes. I am sure I would have commited suicide before the pregnancy had a chance to kill me. I do not care if you reply to me. That isn't what I am looking for, though you do have the option if you wish. My reason for saying this is because when you said *I don't care if they were raped or not, you shouldn't kill a baby* I felt ill. *cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
You don't care?? the cells are more important than a living breathing person with feelings, and emotions? A person who has been brutalized, who had there rights and their voice taken from them? I was forced, I was hurt, and it nearly undid me. But none of that should matter? I should just be let this lump of cells grow, and change the inside of my body, to sap my energy, and change my hormones, to leave stretchmarks that will remind me for the rest of my life of what was done to me? *cont
PepperMinesse 3 years ago
How can u compare a spider to a baby. Its like comparing a tree to a human. I mean they are both liveing i mean come on. Abortion is so wrong in every way
im4christalon 3 years ago
ha yes. i love you. this is emily.
i fricken think abortion is wrong.
:)
emnkate 3 years ago
the animal argument is stupid...animals don't have souls, so the blond girl is right in saying that that is different. and if you get raped in high school and end up pregnant and a baby could potentially "ruin your life" there is always the option of putting that baby up for adoption which is the perfect alternative. Yay! Everybody wins!
whitneymc19 3 years ago
hah yeah. i'm the blonde girl.
i agree. :]
emnkate 3 years ago
How would you put something unborn for adoption?
rtvtrvbtrbrtdbrtrtb 3 years ago
thank you for agreeing.
this is emily.
i believe the same thing.
the whole part where katelan says
there just a clump of cells.
well aren't we all just clumps of cells?
fetus's just have less cells.
i don't get it. but i belive it's wrong.
thanks for sharing yer opinion =]
Much love , Emily
emnkate 3 years ago
they have nails...(O_O')...(-_-')
Kass1964 3 years ago
Abortion is cold blooded, luciferian, murder no matter when it's done. It doesn't matter if the child has a heart, a spine, can feel pain, etc. It's still human life (which must be valued as higher than a spider) and it's still MURDER. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was a luciferian and publically a hardcore racist. She wrote about mass murdering blacks in her own papers. Watch EndGame on google video and you might realise why they love abortion and death. They get off on it.
sniper479 3 years ago