I know all these terms, and trust me I am very familiar with all this...I'm not speaking out of personal opinion/judgment, I just don't have the time now to site things to back up my argument. All I have to say right now is that PLENTY of times you'll find a Muslim with a two-foot beard and dressed in a thoub and seems prophetic and holy...but when he opens his mouth all that comes out is hateful speech, arrogance, very little akhlaq.
All he does is sit and criticize other Muslims when he isn't bringing any good to this world himself. This is extremely dangerous, because the outer is seemingly flawless and so the inner is taken to be as also of the sunnah when in reality it is not. The prophet pbuh warned us of arrogance etc but you find these people just sitting and criticizing everyone around them. they only ignite hatred and make such harsh judgments that they are in no place to make. They dont bring any good..rabna yehdi
remember the ayah-Say (O, Muhammad): If you love Allâh, then follow me, Allâh will love you
and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [3:31].
take all issues back to the qurann and the sunnah never rely on your own personal opinion. check your belief against the belief of the salf and see where it fallls. they the salaf are the measuring stick for correctness. the salaf us saalih. if u are not familiar with this term ask and i'll define no problem
"Whoever imitates a people is one of them." (Ahmad & Abu Dawood)
so ask yourself when these ppl are standing at the potem speaking looking like western politicians who are they imitation? if they were to stand in a crowd of kuffar without speaking could you pick them out? we have hidiyyah(guidance) they don't so don't be afraid to be muslim not just in speech but in apperance. of course adab etc but i am addressing the outter right now.
i have given just a bit of the evidence of shaving the beard is HARAM. when u read the description of the prophet and his cloths he dressed the opposite of the mushrikoon. he was different in apperance. we as believers are different 360 degrees from our aqeedah (creed) to our manhaj ( methodolgy of application) to our adab (character) to yes how we dress. a muslim should stand out from the disbelievers not blend in.
But my Lord, may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache. [Recorded by Ibn Jar r a-abar , and judged to be Hasan (good) by al-Albani.]
A Disobedience To the Messenger (S)
Shaving the beard is a disobedience to the Messenger (S). In many hadiths, the Messenger (S) commanded men to leave alone their beards. These different hadiths have a similar meaning:
Trim the moustache and save the beard. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
When they came into his presence, he noticed that they had shaved their beards and grew their moustaches. He hated to look at them (because of their odd appearance) and he said: Woe be to you, who told you to do so? They replied: "Our lord! (referring to Kisraa.)" The Messenger (S) then said:
But my Lord, may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache. [Recorded by Ibn Jar r a-abar , and judged to be Hasan (good) by al-A
Shaving the beard results in a series of Islamic violations, as is obvious from Allah's Book and His Messenger's Sunnah. The following is a list (not necessarily comprehensive) of such violations:
a. A Disobedience to Allah (T)
Shaving the beard is a disobedience to Allah (T). The ruler of Yemen, appointed by the Persian emperor Kisraa, sent two envoys to the Messenger (S) to summon him.
so lets take our conversation back to the quran and the sunnah as to keep our personal opinions out of it. our personal opinions have no place in this.
allah tells us in the quran-Say (O, Muhammad): If you love Allâh, then follow me, Allâh will love you
and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [3:31]. we are commanded to be opposite of the disbelievers from the authentic hadeeth found in bukhari. the issue of the beard is first. cutting it is a sin.
let us first greet each other upon the quran and the sunnah
I appreciate the spirit in what u said but it lack fahm ( understanding). lets go about this correctly for the pleasure of allah. lets begin with the ayah
1) But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission.004.065.
the only ppl with islamic dress are the women. shouldn't the men lead by example. u expect the women to cover themselves in an fashion while u look like r&b singers with suits and close shaven beards. but hey u were all entertained by nasheeds and beats boxing lol
what's islamic dress code exactly? arab clothes? desi clothes?
As long as a woman is covered appropriately then it is islamic. Also as long as a man is covered appropriately then it is islamic. There's nothing wrong with how the men are dressed.
And beards don't say anything about a person's character. Hamza Yusuf, Amr Khaled, etc all don't have beards, yet they have done more for islam than any of us could.
brother atia had a beautiful beard. i wonder why he cut if off? it seems that as a person gains position in the mas organization the beard must come off. remember whom u imitate is who u are with.
I know all these terms, and trust me I am very familiar with all this...I'm not speaking out of personal opinion/judgment, I just don't have the time now to site things to back up my argument. All I have to say right now is that PLENTY of times you'll find a Muslim with a two-foot beard and dressed in a thoub and seems prophetic and holy...but when he opens his mouth all that comes out is hateful speech, arrogance, very little akhlaq.
sbouss87 2 years ago
All he does is sit and criticize other Muslims when he isn't bringing any good to this world himself. This is extremely dangerous, because the outer is seemingly flawless and so the inner is taken to be as also of the sunnah when in reality it is not. The prophet pbuh warned us of arrogance etc but you find these people just sitting and criticizing everyone around them. they only ignite hatred and make such harsh judgments that they are in no place to make. They dont bring any good..rabna yehdi
sbouss87 2 years ago
remember the ayah-Say (O, Muhammad): If you love Allâh, then follow me, Allâh will love you
and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [3:31].
take all issues back to the qurann and the sunnah never rely on your own personal opinion. check your belief against the belief of the salf and see where it fallls. they the salaf are the measuring stick for correctness. the salaf us saalih. if u are not familiar with this term ask and i'll define no problem
jihad68 2 years ago
"Whoever imitates a people is one of them." (Ahmad & Abu Dawood)
so ask yourself when these ppl are standing at the potem speaking looking like western politicians who are they imitation? if they were to stand in a crowd of kuffar without speaking could you pick them out? we have hidiyyah(guidance) they don't so don't be afraid to be muslim not just in speech but in apperance. of course adab etc but i am addressing the outter right now.
jihad68 2 years ago
i have given just a bit of the evidence of shaving the beard is HARAM. when u read the description of the prophet and his cloths he dressed the opposite of the mushrikoon. he was different in apperance. we as believers are different 360 degrees from our aqeedah (creed) to our manhaj ( methodolgy of application) to our adab (character) to yes how we dress. a muslim should stand out from the disbelievers not blend in.
jihad68 2 years ago
Obeying the Messenger (S) in that is equivalent to obeying Allah (T) who said (what means):
He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah. [An-Nisaa 4:80]
And the Messenger (S) said: Verily, the best guidance is Muhammad's guidance. [Muslim]
jihad68 2 years ago
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jihad68 2 years ago
But my Lord, may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache. [Recorded by Ibn Jar r a-abar , and judged to be Hasan (good) by al-Albani.]
A Disobedience To the Messenger (S)
Shaving the beard is a disobedience to the Messenger (S). In many hadiths, the Messenger (S) commanded men to leave alone their beards. These different hadiths have a similar meaning:
Trim the moustache and save the beard. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
jihad68 2 years ago
When they came into his presence, he noticed that they had shaved their beards and grew their moustaches. He hated to look at them (because of their odd appearance) and he said: Woe be to you, who told you to do so? They replied: "Our lord! (referring to Kisraa.)" The Messenger (S) then said:
But my Lord, may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache. [Recorded by Ibn Jar r a-abar , and judged to be Hasan (good) by al-A
jihad68 2 years ago
Shaving the beard results in a series of Islamic violations, as is obvious from Allah's Book and His Messenger's Sunnah. The following is a list (not necessarily comprehensive) of such violations:
a. A Disobedience to Allah (T)
Shaving the beard is a disobedience to Allah (T). The ruler of Yemen, appointed by the Persian emperor Kisraa, sent two envoys to the Messenger (S) to summon him.
jihad68 2 years ago
so lets take our conversation back to the quran and the sunnah as to keep our personal opinions out of it. our personal opinions have no place in this.
allah tells us in the quran-Say (O, Muhammad): If you love Allâh, then follow me, Allâh will love you
and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful}; [3:31]. we are commanded to be opposite of the disbelievers from the authentic hadeeth found in bukhari. the issue of the beard is first. cutting it is a sin.
jihad68 2 years ago
let us first greet each other upon the quran and the sunnah
I appreciate the spirit in what u said but it lack fahm ( understanding). lets go about this correctly for the pleasure of allah. lets begin with the ayah
1) But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission.004.065.
jihad68 2 years ago
the only ppl with islamic dress are the women. shouldn't the men lead by example. u expect the women to cover themselves in an fashion while u look like r&b singers with suits and close shaven beards. but hey u were all entertained by nasheeds and beats boxing lol
jihad68 3 years ago
what's islamic dress code exactly? arab clothes? desi clothes?
As long as a woman is covered appropriately then it is islamic. Also as long as a man is covered appropriately then it is islamic. There's nothing wrong with how the men are dressed.
And beards don't say anything about a person's character. Hamza Yusuf, Amr Khaled, etc all don't have beards, yet they have done more for islam than any of us could.
sbouss87 2 years ago
brother atia had a beautiful beard. i wonder why he cut if off? it seems that as a person gains position in the mas organization the beard must come off. remember whom u imitate is who u are with.
jihad68 3 years ago
ManshaAllah, Dont stop the great work, i wish i could be there:(
cr777777777 3 years ago