Always Outnumbered, but Never Outgunned: Mechwarrior 4: Merc

[Cman21921]

if i were one of the enemys u would have die soooo soon

[cdtadoft]

Good vid.

For the folks on this thread, the tactic he used is what we use in the US military. It minimizes your exposure while giving you the time to choose your targets. It matters a lot when the stake you play with is your life--there are no respawns in the real world (yet).

[Avenger4343]

which one is newer Mercenaries or Vengeance?

[BibiayRayeaa220]

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[12superbambi]

@BibiayRayeaa220 Uh... Hi???

[KypHeM]

how do you override shutdown?

[ClnlBogey]

If you do something like this, and you are kinda roleplaying as a clanner you should be in a thor (summoner) versus a series of enemy mechs varying from medium to assault. If you can take a thor and defeat a masakari, galdiator, thor, madcat, ryoken, and a shadow cat, I would be impressed :)

[progressive19]

this game is fun :D

[GrimJerr]

High res textures mod at mektek.net/

[blisterbeetle01]

what!? why didnt u eqip a railgun? you could have taken them out at 1000+ meters!

[DireWolf010]

at 1:19 i don't think it was smart to walk out there... but good fight

[guythatonlycomments]

i wonder why you used metroid music in this video... bad choice but good job getting em all ;)

[nxidplease]

those are mods

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[akabarastrauzz]

how do u turn left and rigth?

[Arzaker]

you mech kinda reminds me of an officer pod

[Gaflec]

@Arzaker The Marauder franchise of 'mechs is based on artwork of the Zentradi/Zentran Officers Battle Pod, the rights of which were leased legally by FASA Inc. the company that made the original tabletop game from Harmony Gold USA. After the lease expired they had to change art on the original, but the IIC and the 2 were both considered to be separate properties created by FASA artists, after they could afford to hire artists.

[Arzaker]

@Gaflec

i wonder what could resemble a destroid spartan

[Gaflec]

@Arzaker If i recall the Spartan was the one with the huge round missile pods for arms. If so it was the Longbow. If it had the missile pods in its torso then either Archer or Crusader. Your best bet for Robotech/VOTOMS to Battletech is to Google "Battletech" and "The Unseen." The biggest shame of it all is that the unseen designs are so iconic to both FASA and HG USA franchises and no fan really cares about the legal issues, and forcing FASA to adopt new models for the core 13 was a sad day.

[MrRoZerg]

say, ur capture program is sux,.,. and what is the name of that prog? i want to capture my battle too,.,. :)

[0rangaStang]

i must say that clan wolf FTW but at the same time you did use reflective armor right? im not dissing you at all btw

[fakeprophecy]

@0rangaStang  there's this sick armor in the game called rookie...

[archonambroseus]

I think this is more of an example of the expression: easily defensible positions FTW!

Jokes aside though, very nicely done. Never liked the Marauder that much just on an aesthetic level, but can't argue with those results!

[6Diego1Diego9]

what's the consequence of overriding the heat shutdown?

[bmg50barrett]

@6Diego1Diego9 you take damage to your mech, and it gets progressively more dangerous the more times you do it.

[NerdyTB]

I love Battletech and all of their mechs and games, especially Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries. I can't wait for the full free version to come out.

Also, many of you might not have noticed, but the music in the background is "Samus Vs. Essence of Metroid Prime" from the first game in the Metroid Prime Trilogy. I just happen to be a video game music fanatic.

[halranger]

so easy to install mechpaks once you figure it out pm me if you need assistance

[HachiZenki]

Never did like putting PPC's on my Black Knight builds.

[LeaderoftheFates]

I miss the old marauder from MW2 3 PPCs and a mix of lasers

[Cortez94]

Another Clan Wolf member YESSS. Clan Wolf FTW

[Pupwiz]

@Cortez94 CLAN WOLF IS FTW.

[Gaflec]

@Cortez94 Your kidding right? There have been a million of you crawling all over since MW2.

[Cortez94]

@Gaflec

Jesus .. I posted that a long time ago.. Hmm.. Well excuse me for over exaggerating! xD

[Gaflec]

@Cortez94 All good in my book. I would ask when two weeks counted as ages ago, but we are on the weebs, sadly.

[Cortez94]

@Gaflec

2 weeks? My comment was posted 10 mouth's ago?

[ComprimisedXInsanity]

Awesomness! I have this game on my laptop! But theres a downside...the game is from a torrent...soooo no MEKPAKS 4 meh. But once this game comes out legit free i'm making it my personal quest to get the packs.

(Any one play online?)

[Karuik2]

nice job, not my preffered playstyle though

for me : first person, warhammer, refit for brawling, take em full force. of course i dont charge in like a moron, get tactical like you said.

all in all good fight, pretty fun to watch, 4/5 stars

[salleens7]

How do you overide the shut down?

[noobinacan104]

There is a button for it (you can set it in the options menu, I have mine set to Z). Nice use of the Jump Jets by the way

[Docthewrench]

LOL hit shooting wow I miss dropping Novacats doing that they pop up light gauss our ranged them they stood no chance lol

[c4167]

In the bigining when you zoomed on that blacknight, what button did you press?

[ATown888]

Ive got 'zoom' mapped to the scroll-wheel of my mouse. i click the scroll-wheel once to zoom in, then again to zoom back out.

[LordRelvenous]

0 on the keypad is the default

[knowb4judge]

Yeah, besides throwing away your honor and using an IS mech, not bad shooting stravag. Lol jk, besides the zel states that if your opponents stoop below the zel then you may also, aka: show the spheriods no mercy!

[earwenNL]

Hiding behind cover is not zelbrigen!

[KenshiUchiha]

a very good fight, if anything id of probabaly of redesigned it to be a little more heat effective b ut other wise that mech just did well and hte marauder 2 is a great IS design

[CrazyMautty]

Haha, well you gotta take into account the heat index too. That's one helluva kick in the armor on a cold map.

[Sniperfire731]

What the hell kind of a mech are you piloting? o.0; I've never seen that one before.

[CMDRFandragon]

Lolz, hes in a Marauder...he put it in the Desc what mechs they were haha...One awesome mech btw lolz

[KenshiUchiha]

it is the marauder 2 not the 2c this is the 100 ton innersphere refit unlike the 85 ton clan refit more know about, and its in the mektek patches

[ATown888]

this is the Wolf's Dragoons (i.e. Clan Wolf recon unit) refit of the star-league marauder, so its classification as an Inner Sphere refit is questionable at best.

[KenshiUchiha]

well this is true enough if you simply went by the who but this can be counter on that many innersphere factories churned these out meaning it may of been refited using clan know how but its still only innersphere tech, unlike the 2c which is produced in clan factories

[EvilBetty333]

Wolf's Dragoons are an inner sphere mercenery unit, clan wolf is from the outer rim and is a CLAN

[ZombiezuRFER]

@EvilBetty333 What? Wolf's Dragoons are a child group of Clan Wolf. The dragoons were given almost all their starting stuff by Clan Wolf. Then the Dragoons made their own way in the world. The dragoons were founded by one of the most important guys in Clan Wolf, a guy whose last name was Wolf. (can't remeber his first name & too lazy to look it up) WOlf Guy had a brother who helped him with his mercenary unit.  Please study before criticizing or correcting. No offense intended

[Gaflec]

@ZombiezuRFER Jame Wolf, founded the Wolf's Dragoons as an insurgency unit along side the Kell Hounds and Snord's Irregulars. The Dragoon's were the best among the three and by far the coolest, but fell to Deculture corruption from the Inner Sphere, and were a driving force for Clan Wolf's integration after the battles of Luthian and Tharkad halted all foward momentium of the Clan invasion.

[Gaflec]

@EvilBetty333 Wolf's Dragoons were an insurgency unit of Clan wolf, and one of the reasons why they carved out the largest chunk of the 'sphere without help from a support clan. They were also a driving force behind integration later on after they brought back IS Deculture and the advancement of the clans was blunted at Tharkad and Luthien.

[CMDRFandragon]

Lol I find the Guass Rifle to be quite nice also find the ER PPC to be more heat efficient then the ER Lrg laser.....idk how that is but it just is, my mechs in MW4 vengeance get worse heat ratings and suck up more tons for heatsinks w/ Lrg Lasers haha

[ErAsEdDiSc]

yeah i get where your going at and i can understand rationing ammo which i personally consider a pain myself (was never into the whole autocannon thing) and i guess going energy based would mean you would have enough tonnage to put out towards the heat sinks.. only problem at that point i find is that the slots designed on the Marauder IIC wouldnt be effective for damage using all of its energy points. i've tryed energy based so many times and keep running into that problem, except with nova cat

[ErAsEdDiSc]

to oppose to your last statement about the railgun

1. you do it right you only have to sacrifice just the speed and the jump jets..

2. you play in a way that you try to go out in open combat as much as possible, im talking about if you actually strategize yourself with the gun,

3. .. if you get a shot off on a guy with the railgun, it disorients him long enough kill the rest of him, and after the first shot hes just gonna be worried about whether he survives, not if he can kill the gun

[ErAsEdDiSc]

it disorients him long enough to kill the rest of him**

[ATown888]

the railgun has its uses. I use it quite a bit, just not on this design. Like I was saying, this is my story mech as well, and its current loadout is very good at dealing with common story situations; like multiple light mechs etc. also, this loadout does about the same damage as the railgun with half the recharge time. finally, i wanted a mech that was mainly energy-based, negating the need to ration ammo. Heat is the only limiting factor, and its not bad as long as its not a desert level.

[blisterbeetle01]

@ATown888 wait,, you use this in the story!? I've been trying to do that to but I cant find the right patch! which one is it?

[ATown888]

@blisterbeetle01 Mektek.net released MW4: Mercs and all the Mektek Mekpaks for free. go to mektek and theyll hook you up with all the patches.

[ErAsEdDiSc]

the fafnir is actually bulky yes i admit that but its armor capabilities usually compensate for that assuming you dont have a one shot one kill combo that your using, and fafnirs i will admit are not the best at close range combat but i can guarantee you with a long range fight that you can deal out more damage in a second than they could in about 5 seconds, as opposed to that versatility comes in handy.. only problem is once you blow off a leg the speed of the mech is down by 60% abouts..

[ErAsEdDiSc]

yes of course your looking at the factors of speed, armor, firepower, and a proper allocated weapons layout, im just saying look at what the heavy gauss is worth compared to the rail gun, you would be much better loading that on as opposed to the heavy gauss cannon which doesnt do nearly as much damage..

and also mechwarrior is usually more or less about who kills who first... if you cant kill them fast enough your most likely dead.. i only know because i was more into the urban maps of mw4

[ATown888]

Oh, if yer wondering why I dont use the railgun, there are 3 reasons:

1) i would have to sacrifice speed and armor to have that cannon along with some decent arm weapons, and thats a sacrifice Im not willing to make.

2) the railguns reload time makes it ineffective in many situations. having insufficient support weapons only makes this worse.

3) armor cannot be added to the top gun of this mech, meaning that an experienced pilot would have no trouble blowing the railgun off.

[ErAsEdDiSc]

btw i would also recommend if your into the one shot one kill using long range, i would recommend a fafnir using 2 heavy gauss cannons at the left and right torso while using erppc's at the arms.. at 750 meters (in game) anything 90 tons and below is usually dead after the first shot to the center torso, 100 ton mechs will take about 2 (maybe 3) shots to the center torso if all the weapon projectiles land correctly =D

-- the combo also takes out any limb on any mech with one shot...

[ATown888]

The fafnir has its uses, but its too slow for my taste. and its torso is so big, its easy to pick which part of it you want to blow off. I dont use the fafnir simply because its lack of agility (low maneuverability and no jump jets). I like my mechs versatile in more than just offense.

[ErAsEdDiSc]

ahh the marauder my favourite mech out of the entire mechwarrior series... i gotta be honest about your loadout of the mech.. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU ONLY GET 2 PPC'S ON WITH A HEAVY GAUSS AND MANAGE TO OVERHEAT?!?! back when i played i could load on the 2 ppc's plus the railgun and a couple of extra lasers! and enough heat sinks to not overheat as fast as you..

[ATown888]

Ive balanced this mech out. Its complete loadout includes 2 ER PPCs, 1 Heavy Gauss Rifle, and a pair of Medium Lasers. this is my main mech for story missions, and i find the support aspect of the mediums very nice. This mech is also fast for its size, well armored, and has jump jets. any mech i use consistently has to have jump jets. Mechwarrior isnt all about offense; there are a variety of factors that make a good mech, and I think this variant strikes a nice balance between those factors.

[enderfan57666]

id join you online for the clans if we could both get it to work.

[aegisghost]

Stop dissing this guy, okay?

If you ever were to take ANY 'Mech into a fight against FOUR human controlled Black Knights, you will get OWNED flat in a second. No matter WHO you are.

This video is about defensive techniques. Call it cowardly, call it lame, or boring, but at least he survived it.

And, chill with all that MW2 stuff. Different evironment, different techniques. PPCs are now faster. Gauss slugs are faster. And you do not get old wireframe blocky graphics.

Clan Ghost Bear Rox!

[AvgasStew]

And you lose a cockpit..........

[irishbernier]

@aegisghost

He did do well, and the defensive tactics are a good idea in this situation. But, when I played (for some reason this game stopped working on my computer), I was usually in a Puma, Solitaire, or an Uziel (I don't know why, maybe I'm a masochist). And it got pretty ridiculous (and bloody annoying as hell) when a team of guys in heavies and assaults found these tactics necessary to fight me (minus heat and with unlimited ammo)...

Also, those Black Knights aren't human, they are AI

[Liamer97]

@aegisghost they probly arnt even real people just computers set on easy so he can look good

[arkmalfius]

Your sniping tactics remind me of Gundam Dynames.

[feeblezak]

shoot down some helicopters

[NORDBORD]

YOU SUCK

{NOC}Tryrant

[wiley195]

wats wrong with the traditional mechs?

[WolfJenn]

they're nothing like the battletech origanals. look and the owens and mad dog. the mad dog looks like a different mech based on the mad dog, and the owens' legs are too short and the torso twists. in battletech manuels, the legs are longer, and the torso fixed.

[SHINIGAMI1337]

"DIE CLANNER!"

[serenityra]

bots? rofl noob

[ATown888]

ive been over this before: if i could get mercs to connect to an online game, id be playing online instead of making videos.

[sephirot133]

where i can get all patch because i can get work mektek packs...

[Akamaru333]

nice^^

[gundog39]

Is mercenaries the expansion pack

[ATown888]

MW4: Mercs is an entirely different game. you can install Mercs without even owning the original MW4: Vengence. the mech im using in this video is from the MekTek MechPaks, so you would need to download those patches in addition to getting mercs.

[WhiteShadowZO]

You should have mounted the mech adapted naval rail gun.

[ATown888]

though that cannon comes on the standard config, there are several reasons i didnt use the naval rail gun on this mech. for one, it takes ages to reload, and this combination of 2 ER PPCs and a heavy gauss rifle do about the same damage, and take half the time to reload/recharge. also, the naval rail gun is in one spot: that gun on the back, which can be blown off relatively easily by an experienced opponent. if that rail gun should be destroyed, this design becomes essentially useless.

[WhiteShadowZO]

Yes of course. I should have put a ":P" to show me joking

[Starcow001]

clans and their cheat mechs 3;p

[Starcow001]

haha thats a maurader 3;8P

maurader IIC

[Starcow001]

wow a maurader~~~ ciron the destroyer used it in Robotech : macross /grin

wish he would have taken rick hunter out -_-

scott benard 4 life !

wonder if they got the long tom or the archer in this game~ or even the~~

[jp28hc]

That's not a Maurader. I used to use one a few years ago with a 2 ERPPC/RAC2 loadout. what you are seeing is from one of the newer MEKTEK packs. I'm getting set to load everything up again including all the packs so if everything goes well i;ll find out what that mech is.

[Tormentor]

It's a marauder 2. The Clans had the common Marauders from the time of the star league when they left the inner sphere and constructed this 100ton version after it.

[jp28hc]

They have both. The LT is stock. The Archer you can get in one of the MEKTEK packs.

[Yenastuundepaspris55]

What's this Mech ?!

I never saw a Mech like this in : MechWarrior 4 - Mercenaries ?

[ATown888]

Its a Marauder 2, a clan upgraded, 100-ton version of the venerable star-league era Marauder.

[Rynx214]

that's from the mektek patch, mounting a heavy gauss and two ppc's, right? And...some major engine upgrades to move that fast.

A human player would have torso twisted to the side and weaved to avoid CT sniping. Still, good job

[vianegativa85]

afraid of combat much?

[ATown888]

Its called tactics. The most direct approach isnt always the best.

[Anthuz777]

Agreed. Taking a Mech that overheats a good deal into a fight like that guns ablazing really is a bad idea. When it comes to weapon loadouts (in general), I usually prefer to use Rotary AC5s, but to each his own I guess.

*Is also a supporter of Clan Wolf-in-Exile* I think my support for the Warden Clans stems from all of my Clan-based BT/MW novels revolving around Clan Ghost Bear. XD

[EvilBetty333]

against human players u would be torn apart

[ATown888]

i used to play MW4: Vengence online, and i wouldnt really call 30 kills a game getting "torn apart". that was a long time ago though. in addition to the fact that computer opponents require a different strategy-set than humans, any self-respecting warrior wouldnt parade around judging other peoples' skills without first-hand experience. you can criticize me all you want after you beat me in mech combat. BTW, i wouldnt advise using a 50-ton Uziel, hehehe. Aidan Pryde you are not.

[EvilBetty333]

im sure alot of people would agree with me if i just got MW2 on your ass and took you apart with a riflemen or warhawk

[AvgasStew]

Yep - Ah, i miss my precious Stormcrow with continuous laser chainfire that the heatsinks could handle. Trick was not to lose your legs lol

[EvilBetty333]

Haha same with every mech, i suppose then they became a transformer whos alt mode was a turret lol

[EvilBetty333]

30 kills and how many deaths 90? one for every ton? XD

[BloodHound190]

THAT THING HAS JUMPJETS??? :O

And yes, Clan Wolf FTW :D

I always use to side w/ 'em in 'Mech 2!

[wraitherman]

where do u get this game?

[EvilBetty333]

I would own u with an uziel with that weaponry!!

[ATown888]

no you wouldnt.

[EvilBetty333]

Hate to tell you but ii would. its faster than that hunk of junk. u must suck if you don't think so

[dynamic21]

oh my, ur a n00b lol

[Acclamator55]

now lose the giant mod mech and fight three real humans. then tell me what happens. lame

[ATown888]

MW4 wont connect to online games anymore, otherwise i would be playing MW4 online instead of making stupid vids.

[jp28hc]

Check MEKTEK. There is still online action

[Renegen1]

stupid boats

[boardslide56]

you get that mech by using clan pack, i dont know where to get though

[ianmcmill]

just another lame dune sniper setup

[plasboy2000]

Where do u get these other chassis from in mechwar4 mercs ? that chassis isnt in the default game ?? i certainly dont have it..

[Celdorn]

Could be the hardcore mod... Just google it and you'll find it

[Ry0K3N]

Good use of terrain but with this config BK is a piece of cake it has too big CT. Try agaist 4 reflective armored Thors with UAC10 and ERPPC ^^

[Arkanoid1212]

yep, community mod, download and play online its aviable on the mektek site, as well as the registry hack for connecting to community servers (wich are still running).

[Versudan]

I've played Mechwarrior 4 Mercs for a while now and I have NEVER seen this one. Is this a custom mod, because it's not in the game normally.

[BlueTrin]

H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-HEADSHOT­

[beeze2007]

errr... it's got jump jets and weights a lot more than the older Mk.I

[VhenRaTheRaptor]

Yeah, It weighs like 25 Tons more.

Has much heavier armor, More heat sinks, a bigger gun and has Jump Jets, IIRC.

[killerof2]

WTF is this mech

[Ry0K3N]

Marauder II

[EricN80]

Found memories of playing the Marauder in Mechwarrior on my Dad's 286 Tandy! I need to buy Mercenaries.

[speeddemon0117]

What kind of mech is that?

[OmegaXMK2]

That's the Marauder Mark II. It's in Mektek's Mech Pack 3.

[WhiteShadowZO]

Marauder Mk II. One of those venerable designs everyone should know.