How do you make a spring house? there is a spring on someproperty that i am about to buy and i need to know how to make a spring house. if you can kinda explain the anatomy of a spring house and how they are built it would be awesome!! thank you
hey there! i just thought of another building technique that you might like to consider. Try searching 'earthships'. They use old tyres (tires) and pack dirt in side of them to form a kind of brick. Your basically reusing the typres to make buildings. Try searching for it on google and youtube. catch ya
this just reminded me of a cool building technique that i was reading about a few months ago. it's called "earth bagging". check out the wiki, youtube videos and google "calearth" for more info. it's probably the cheapest way to build. you could also search "calearth" on youtube. i actually checked out the demo homes about 40 minutes away from where i live. it was sweeet!
they're woven polypropylene bags which resist insects and water rot. The only weak point is UV susceptibility, so it's typically plastered with something. It looks like the calearth dudes jacked up the price of the long continuous bags, but I've heard of many people recycling used grain bags (same material). you can use dirt as a filler or even RICE HULLS!!! I heard that rice hulls are worthless to grain processors, so they should be free.
Apparently, rice hulls are highly resistant to insects and rot as they have a high silica content. also, it doesn't burn well!! if you build fat walls, the quality of the insulation gets pretty crazy. for more info wiki "rice-hull bagwall". it's a very new concept and it shows lots of promise. only drawback is that you'll need to live close to a rice processing plant. :(
@JMEMantzel Thank you for your honest approach to your video. It is there, mistakes and all. That is what all us beginners need to see and learn from. I plan on making a small dome about 200 sq ft for starters, and I will probably use a system similar to yours. Again, thanks for all your info, and good luck!
And... as usual only proved how idiotic presumptions are/can be or the 'sumer(s)' ass or pre lol ;-)
Love your vids.
P.S. Although very creative, still skeptical of your concrete panels and joints/joineries ;0) Would recommend you 'seal' the spring dome whether you cover it in soil or not.
Concrete oft has the same affect on reinforcing wire as it does on finger tips ;-)
hey the ceiling might collapse again if you keep using concrete, are u going to use plaster, sheet rock, or dry wall. if you are i would put less sress on the stuccture. BTW i enjoy all of your projects
Actually... I'm going with concrete for the whole thing. As usual I am willing to risk my life relying on my understanding of physics. If it falls on my head, I deserve it for having a brain that isn't cpaable of understanding simple compression/tension principles. :-)
Umm, stone archways have been built with massive keystones for millenia. Just because something is heavy doesn't mean that it will fall down if it is overhead. The geodesic dome shape is VERY strong. Hey Jaimie, we want to see video of you risking your life by having a moose jump on the finished dome with you inside!
You should maybe keep it in just to see if it makes a difference.
Surely it won't take that much off of the available space inside?
Plus, you can use that to hold things onto, rather than having to hammer in some nails to the concrete and potentially causing cracks... yeah that would suck bad.
uhh... You're talking about a world I don't live in. I'm not leaving it in, and I'm not hammering nails into the ceiling like a complete moron. :-P ha ha
I've got 6 donuts infront of me that disagree with you! MOOAHAHAHAHA!!! OK Ok, I'm not going to eat them all or anything. :-P ....but I don't want to get toooo skinny.
thats because you're looking at me through foolish glasses. Take 'em off, and you might see that NOT doing a job I hate is much easier than working for money all the time. :-) ....much easier on my soul. ...and I'm always getting great side effects.
Seems to me there's only ONE way, when your ONE guy, with ONE budget (near zero): HARD lol
But when you have the patience of a saint, determination of a true achiever and the sheer joy of someone who is truly young at heart you have JMEMantzel :-) A flesh and blood work of art in motion.
Their is a huge dome that was built in roman times using three different types of concrete. By using different aggregates they made heavy concrete for the base, medium weight concrete for the middle and light concrete for the top. I think the light concrete contained volcanic pumice.
I used vermiculite (or was it perlite?) which is very light to make a small melting furnace. It wasn't very strong as I recall, but maybe could be, mixed in different proportions. Very good for insulation though, I used it mixed with refractory to line the walls of the furnace. It's often used for plants and stuff, so check out your local garden center if you need it. As I recall, it was kinda cheap, but I only got a small bag.
Ya, I read a little about that stuff. The less strength thing is a bummer. I didn't find a cheap source of it. 80lbs bags of concrete are like 3.50$ ...I can make a little more than a panel out of each bag.
i need to check if you ever see when there off loading the mail into boxes to take in to sort the box is made of soloflex i will go look to see what the name is
Pretty interesting stuff,as usual! Your dedication to keeping motivated to go through 1000 repetitive tasks to accomplish a major one is very inspiring :), and the way you come up with simple creative solutions to the issues you come across is also interesting to watch.
I'm really not much an engineer on building stuff, but will a concrete dome hold and not cave in (like the metal one did)? Maybe you should put a concrete support inside or something...
I bet the temporary dome would not have caved in if the "beams" had been tubular instead of U-shaped. Jaimie knows this. He has an uncanny feel for the properties of materials and spatial relationships and physics which seems to be part of his alien brain. The concrete is a lot stronger. Bring on the mooses!
inspector piller. Actually, I don't give him a name. He would have to tell me it, and he was too quiet. I seriously couldn't understand a word he said! I hope it wasn't anything important.
I hope the concrete dome is self supporting, other wise the frame may collapse under the weight of the concrete and earth when you make your hobbit house. It did under a pile of snow, and *ahem* a crazed moose dancing in the roof...
Other than that, it looks awesome. prefabing the triangles was definately a good idea.
Ya..... its autumn here too. I just spent a month and a half building a road.... and will be working on this concretee dome for a while.... and as far as I know huge workshops don't construct themselves, so.... its going to take some time. It might snow in November... and I can't really make a concrete foundation if its just going to freeze before curing...
See, this is what happens when you become more dependent on a man-made calendar than the actual flow of the seasons. Last winter was last winter, whether it was "2007" or "2008". Nobody LIVING in winter, experiencing the snow and cold of January and February in Vermont, would consider this part of 2008 "spring". So when Jaimie says "last winter" he means just that- the last winter season he lived through. It's just artificial conventions like calendars and time that confuse us.
Yeah, I can relate. Alaska seems more real than being back at work today- I keep thinking I'll wake up and check the charge controller on the solar panels...
I'm racing to make a workshop before it snows. That way I can finish the robot, and various other projects without worrying about the huge mess I make! MOOOAHAA HAA HAA!!!!
...and no. I'm not worried about the dome collapsing. ...yet. ....although my physics understanding tells me that it should be super strong. heh.... heh..... heh...
I think the mooses are at the root of a whole lot more than just this.
titanrain1 7 months ago
Concrete igloo.. Brilliant! Genius I say!
PaladinFury 1 year ago
perfect just what i was looking for 8)
christuimbirek 1 year ago
How do you make a spring house? there is a spring on someproperty that i am about to buy and i need to know how to make a spring house. if you can kinda explain the anatomy of a spring house and how they are built it would be awesome!! thank you
ParityProductions 1 year ago
maximum respect
joohop 1 year ago
Very clever.
rwhendrix 2 years ago
I wanna build a dome house so bad
phokuzbt 2 years ago
Your concrete inspector...lol. That's great!
phokuzbt 2 years ago
hey there! i just thought of another building technique that you might like to consider. Try searching 'earthships'. They use old tyres (tires) and pack dirt in side of them to form a kind of brick. Your basically reusing the typres to make buildings. Try searching for it on google and youtube. catch ya
pashabulker1 2 years ago
this just reminded me of a cool building technique that i was reading about a few months ago. it's called "earth bagging". check out the wiki, youtube videos and google "calearth" for more info. it's probably the cheapest way to build. you could also search "calearth" on youtube. i actually checked out the demo homes about 40 minutes away from where i live. it was sweeet!
kchididdy 2 years ago
cool. I have heard of the earthbag thing. I haven't seen anything in perrson. Do the bags never disintegrate?
JMEMantzel 2 years ago
they're woven polypropylene bags which resist insects and water rot. The only weak point is UV susceptibility, so it's typically plastered with something. It looks like the calearth dudes jacked up the price of the long continuous bags, but I've heard of many people recycling used grain bags (same material). you can use dirt as a filler or even RICE HULLS!!! I heard that rice hulls are worthless to grain processors, so they should be free.
kchididdy 2 years ago
Apparently, rice hulls are highly resistant to insects and rot as they have a high silica content. also, it doesn't burn well!! if you build fat walls, the quality of the insulation gets pretty crazy. for more info wiki "rice-hull bagwall". it's a very new concept and it shows lots of promise. only drawback is that you'll need to live close to a rice processing plant. :(
kchididdy 2 years ago
Err.... ya. I was going to say... thats all great information for someone who lives near piles of rice hulls. ha ha.
Hmmm... I'd probably go with dirt.
I wass concerned that the bags may be UV susceptible. Bummer.
I still really like concrete. One of the few things that gets stronger over time. :-)
JMEMantzel 2 years ago
@JMEMantzel Thank you for your honest approach to your video. It is there, mistakes and all. That is what all us beginners need to see and learn from. I plan on making a small dome about 200 sq ft for starters, and I will probably use a system similar to yours. Again, thanks for all your info, and good luck!
slowgirlwild 1 year ago
genius ;-)
evasevalla 2 years ago 2
Thank you! It was starting to get annoying with all these "That thing is going to collapse" comments. Sheesh.
JMEMantzel 2 years ago
Just out of interest, Jaimie, what sort of work do you do to earn the money to buy all this stuff?
Mudskippersam 3 years ago
oh... I make about 5000$ or so per year average. It doesn't cost much money to do this stuff. Its all in the effort.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
oh... but to answer the question. I'm occassionally hired to build things for other people. I was paid to do a couple of the projects on here.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Chicken wire. You need to reinforce the concrete or it will fail.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Ooops sorry posted too soon.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
HA HA. Good one. At least you caught yourself presumming I'm an idiot. :-P
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
And... as usual only proved how idiotic presumptions are/can be or the 'sumer(s)' ass or pre lol ;-)
Love your vids.
P.S. Although very creative, still skeptical of your concrete panels and joints/joineries ;0) Would recommend you 'seal' the spring dome whether you cover it in soil or not.
Concrete oft has the same affect on reinforcing wire as it does on finger tips ;-)
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
hey the ceiling might collapse again if you keep using concrete, are u going to use plaster, sheet rock, or dry wall. if you are i would put less sress on the stuccture. BTW i enjoy all of your projects
peteratrayal500 3 years ago
Actually... I'm going with concrete for the whole thing. As usual I am willing to risk my life relying on my understanding of physics. If it falls on my head, I deserve it for having a brain that isn't cpaable of understanding simple compression/tension principles. :-)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Umm, stone archways have been built with massive keystones for millenia. Just because something is heavy doesn't mean that it will fall down if it is overhead. The geodesic dome shape is VERY strong. Hey Jaimie, we want to see video of you risking your life by having a moose jump on the finished dome with you inside!
edjorg 3 years ago
Ya, you tell em, Ellen! :-)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
This is truth!
Massive bridges have been built, archways and so on.
This little dome would barely need that much cement on it.
And when it dries, the shape would be self supporting.
The only thing i worry about is covering it with dirt, it might not support it as well.. depends how strong the support frame is.
DudeParallel 3 years ago
Support frame? No frame. The concrete is what will support the dirt.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Isn't that metal more-or-less a support frame though?
Or is that coming out?
DudeParallel 3 years ago
I really need to do a FAQ. The metal is coming out. it won't support shit. That should be pretty clear be how is collapsed last winter! ha ha
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
You should maybe keep it in just to see if it makes a difference.
Surely it won't take that much off of the available space inside?
Plus, you can use that to hold things onto, rather than having to hammer in some nails to the concrete and potentially causing cracks... yeah that would suck bad.
DudeParallel 3 years ago
uhh... You're talking about a world I don't live in. I'm not leaving it in, and I'm not hammering nails into the ceiling like a complete moron. :-P ha ha
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Ahaha, i see.
Oh well, hope it works it whatever way it goes.
I would love to have a little "hobbit" house.
DudeParallel 3 years ago
Ya... me too. If I suddenly disappear, though, feel free to presume I'm crushed. :-P
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
in fact it is the sheer weight itself that helps provide a lot of the strength, particularly in the outer portions of the arch ;-)...i think...haha!
And HI Ellen!! =o I hope the Cabin is still working well!
Mudskippersam 3 years ago
ya! that! it keeps everything in compression. :-)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Wow, that is pretty ingenius. Are you going to use plexiglass or some other strong transparent material for the topmost panels/windows?
lemuelbecc 3 years ago
I'm not sure. I do have some thick polycarbonate. I don't have to decide yet.... I kinda want to make some windows on one side.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
you're getting skinny again! i think that's nice. i'm jealous! :)
nomadtoes 3 years ago
I've got 6 donuts infront of me that disagree with you! MOOAHAHAHAHA!!! OK Ok, I'm not going to eat them all or anything. :-P ....but I don't want to get toooo skinny.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
I don't think there's any chance of that. You had eight in front of you and somehow between the supermarket and downtown S.R. it became six...
edjorg 3 years ago
chomp chomp!
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
who was the cameraperson for some of the shots?
penguinx42 3 years ago
Oh, that was Dashaina. She lives at the dome sometimes. She's in some of the video's... like... the one where we made a gazebo thingy.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
ah yes I remember her. Your videos need more Dashaina! Have her jump up and down on top of the concrete dome to test it or something
penguinx42 3 years ago
Oh, you just want to see girls jumping up and down. ha ha. uhh... me too.
uhhh... I mean.. err..... you're such a pervert. uhh... ya, thats it.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
it's like an concrete urban-style igloo (in the forest). Talk about a mind-fuck.
soundslave 3 years ago
hey now. Watch the language. The mooses might hear you!
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
It'll be a Giant Turtle!
Flalaski 3 years ago
Ya, a buried one. :-P
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
LOL, wow. I thought you'd just support the hell out of the inside and cover it with mesh and tarp and just... pour... :D
LOTS OF WORK! I can't wait for #2.
antishay 3 years ago
ya... that method works awesome in cartoons! :-P
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
LOL - oops. Well, I thought it would work, anyway...
antishay 3 years ago
It seems like your always doing everything the hard way.
bots4life 3 years ago
thats because you're looking at me through foolish glasses. Take 'em off, and you might see that NOT doing a job I hate is much easier than working for money all the time. :-) ....much easier on my soul. ...and I'm always getting great side effects.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Great philosophy for a happy life. Keep it up!
kahunabear 3 years ago
I'll do my breast! I mean best! (sorry, i heard that seeing and thinking about breasts makes one live longer)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Makes her live longer too ;-)
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Seems to me there's only ONE way, when your ONE guy, with ONE budget (near zero): HARD lol
But when you have the patience of a saint, determination of a true achiever and the sheer joy of someone who is truly young at heart you have JMEMantzel :-) A flesh and blood work of art in motion.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
aw.... I didn't see this comment before. Thanks! Thats really nice. :-)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
I'm glad you've got your priorities right, you'll need water when the robot bursts into flames! :-)
TheGreatSteve 3 years ago
There ya go. Someone's got ir straight now.
...argh... no robot fires!
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Their is a huge dome that was built in roman times using three different types of concrete. By using different aggregates they made heavy concrete for the base, medium weight concrete for the middle and light concrete for the top. I think the light concrete contained volcanic pumice.
TheGreatSteve 3 years ago
Ya, I looked into that a little. It turned out to be a pain in the arse to get/make lightweight concrete, so I said screw it. :-)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
I used vermiculite (or was it perlite?) which is very light to make a small melting furnace. It wasn't very strong as I recall, but maybe could be, mixed in different proportions. Very good for insulation though, I used it mixed with refractory to line the walls of the furnace. It's often used for plants and stuff, so check out your local garden center if you need it. As I recall, it was kinda cheap, but I only got a small bag.
AnWe79 3 years ago
Ya, I read a little about that stuff. The less strength thing is a bummer. I didn't find a cheap source of it. 80lbs bags of concrete are like 3.50$ ...I can make a little more than a panel out of each bag.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Pretty, pretty, domey, domey.
gunluva 3 years ago
wow man good job so far that looks like a new way to build houses to me hehehehehe
DannysCam 3 years ago
Oh, well go patent it, sell the patent, and send me some money. :-P
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
cover it with solo flex its awsome we use it on green houses
DannysCam 3 years ago
solo flex? hmm... I'm gonna go look this stuff up. What is it???
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
All I could find when I Googled it was the silly exercise machines! Is "soloflex" the right spelling?
edjorg 3 years ago
i need to check if you ever see when there off loading the mail into boxes to take in to sort the box is made of soloflex i will go look to see what the name is
DannysCam 3 years ago
i found the name its solexx its pretty cool
DannysCam 3 years ago
Yeah, I checked it out. I want to price the big rolls of it. Hopefully there's a dealership nearer than Oregon that carries them.
edjorg 3 years ago
yeah it looks pretty cool my uncle allmost used it on his 30x28 green house that i was building for him it last longer
DannysCam 3 years ago
And I thought I worked hard this week. You put me to shame, Jaimie!
edjorg 3 years ago
Pretty interesting stuff,as usual! Your dedication to keeping motivated to go through 1000 repetitive tasks to accomplish a major one is very inspiring :), and the way you come up with simple creative solutions to the issues you come across is also interesting to watch.
I'm really not much an engineer on building stuff, but will a concrete dome hold and not cave in (like the metal one did)? Maybe you should put a concrete support inside or something...
Good stuff, keep it up!
pmendes99 3 years ago
I bet the temporary dome would not have caved in if the "beams" had been tubular instead of U-shaped. Jaimie knows this. He has an uncanny feel for the properties of materials and spatial relationships and physics which seems to be part of his alien brain. The concrete is a lot stronger. Bring on the mooses!
edjorg 3 years ago
YYYYYEEAH!!!! Mooses. Take that!
Of course.... there's always a chance I'll screw something up. :-P
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Now it's Moose Proof! :-)
TheGreatSteve 3 years ago
Think.... egg shell. :-) presumming I do a resonably good job, the thing should be fairly indestructible.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
you did not give the inspector a name.
domenriono 3 years ago
inspector piller. Actually, I don't give him a name. He would have to tell me it, and he was too quiet. I seriously couldn't understand a word he said! I hope it wasn't anything important.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
I hope the concrete dome is self supporting, other wise the frame may collapse under the weight of the concrete and earth when you make your hobbit house. It did under a pile of snow, and *ahem* a crazed moose dancing in the roof...
Other than that, it looks awesome. prefabing the triangles was definately a good idea.
blogs454 3 years ago
Well, last time I checked.... ahem... concrete was great for structural uses... particularly where compression is involved. :-)
(oohhhh, man. I hope I don't eat that in a week or 2)
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Yep.... although I've never seen (or heard of) sewing concrete slabs together before 0o
Best of luck.
blogs454 3 years ago
well.... thats because people don't usually call it sewing when its with thick steel wire.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Wow, first view?
Anyway, which winter did this happen?
Asdayasman 3 years ago
Last winter. like.. the one that just ended this year.... uhh... 2008
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
...!?
What month are you in now, 'cause it's barely autumn 2008 here.
Asdayasman 3 years ago
Don't January and February count as winter?
edjorg 3 years ago
Not when it's September.
Asdayasman 3 years ago
Ya..... its autumn here too. I just spent a month and a half building a road.... and will be working on this concretee dome for a while.... and as far as I know huge workshops don't construct themselves, so.... its going to take some time. It might snow in November... and I can't really make a concrete foundation if its just going to freeze before curing...
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Hrmmmmm.
I'm still confus. =[
Asdayasman 3 years ago
Oh come on! Spring doesn't start until Arpil!
He means the last winter we had. The one that just happened, before the spring and summer that we just had and before the fall we're entering.
...
antishay 3 years ago
err... the dome collapsed LAST winter... and I'm racing to finish things before NEXT winter.... coming up in a few months.
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
about.... what? Are you thinking Spring is a season, not water coming out of the ground?
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Umm, I _think_ I get it.
Yay?
Asdayasman 3 years ago
See, this is what happens when you become more dependent on a man-made calendar than the actual flow of the seasons. Last winter was last winter, whether it was "2007" or "2008". Nobody LIVING in winter, experiencing the snow and cold of January and February in Vermont, would consider this part of 2008 "spring". So when Jaimie says "last winter" he means just that- the last winter season he lived through. It's just artificial conventions like calendars and time that confuse us.
edjorg 3 years ago
Right, I got it.
I'm still befuddled, but now I know what I need to to go draw up some flowcharts and other such nonsense, to make sense of it.
^^
Asdayasman 3 years ago
ok ok.... I don't even know what the confusion is. What are you not sure about?
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
I was confused as to why you were calling it 2008 winter, when I've not hit 2008 autumn yet. I think... =P
Asdayasman 3 years ago
Man your life is crazy.
cheers though and good luck.
love your vids!
morde11 3 years ago
crazy, nuthin! I'm in "regular people" land today. THIS place is crazy! My world makes sense!
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
Yeah, I can relate. Alaska seems more real than being back at work today- I keep thinking I'll wake up and check the charge controller on the solar panels...
edjorg 3 years ago
Ya. I love my solar panels!
JMEMantzel 3 years ago
work for money? What now?
Are you worried that the slabs will fall through and hit you when insid the spring-dome?
After this will you go righ to working on the robot, or finishing the workshop/citadel?
tycoonassassin 3 years ago
I'm racing to make a workshop before it snows. That way I can finish the robot, and various other projects without worrying about the huge mess I make! MOOOAHAA HAA HAA!!!!
...and no. I'm not worried about the dome collapsing. ...yet. ....although my physics understanding tells me that it should be super strong. heh.... heh..... heh...
JMEMantzel 3 years ago