Friday Freefly- Harry Reid is a fool against war

[vivalapresley]

we need to get those assholes out of tcongress next year!

[Pookatube]

FREE THE PENDELTON EIGHT NOW!!!!

[mainemilitia]

Listen up...I am a Gulf War Vet (a decorated one at that).You really need to stop watching the news that your watching.I used to believe the same way you do.This war does not keep us safer.We should not have gone there.Hey remember that bin laden guy?Many forgot in this administration.Oh yea I'm a registered republican.Our foreign policy completely screwed up.

[ResearchX]

This guy is a real Douche and I don't doubt that he is under C.I.A. payroll. I wonder what the media would find if they investigated this guy. He says that he is a patriot. If he was a patriot, he would be petitiioning the U.N. to indicte Bush and Cheney. This guy is a soldier wantabe. He is the base of the Bush/Cheney Republican party douchebags.

[Soamsey]

Right, lots of patriots petition the UN against our own goverment. Makes sense.

[ResearchX]

Soamsey, Of course it makes sense. How else is American going to indict and convict that asshole who stole two elections. Oh wait, I guess we could get Alberto Gonzales to do it. "Yeah right"..pft.

[Soamsey]

It's challenging to speak rationally with someone of your antagonistic beliefs. But, firstly, its hard to believe we're still on the election issue (it'd be like me still talking about Clinton's perjury - get over it!) but how many recounts after the fact showed Bush losing? Secondly, it is hard to believe you would so liberally and disrespectfully call the President an asshole. I disagreed with tons that Clinton did but would never have said this about my own President.

[ResearchX]

Soamsey, I can call him an asshole because he is not the President. See my favorite videos and watch the election fraud videos so you can understand. And no I am not going to get over it. That's like someone stealing my car 7yrs ago and someone telling me to forget it and get over it. Dude, you are a moron.

[Soamsey]

I appreciate the 'moron' comment. That really helped win me over to what is obviously a very peaceable and respectful way of living. No thanks on the videos - the election fraud thing is just so silly (and I wasn't even for Bush). But, out of interest, did Bush win the election fraudulently because he planned to implode the Twin Towers or did his 9-11 plan come after he fraudulently won the election? And how does his desire to kill black people for fun in New Orleans figure into all this?

[ResearchX]

Soamsey, Oh but you are wrong. They were for Bush. I dare you to watch the videos and then tell me it was not fraudulent. other of my fav. videos shows how the Clinton/Bush adm. gave our national parks to the U.N.Lets face it. The NWO is well under way.

[Soamsey]

Gore only "wins" (its still not a win, obviously) if you count overvotes - utter retards who vote twice for the same person by both punching and doing a write in for the same candidate. If you can't remotely follow directions, your vote shouldn't count (its not just the intention but also the act of voting) and it doesn't.

[Soamsey]

Meanwhile if by some miracle Rudy beats Hillary (which won't happen), start working now on coming up with a reason it is not legit so you can spend four to eight years fixating on that non-productive garbage. Myself, I will work on accepting a Hillary Presidency and feel positive about the good things that may possibly come out of it. The country comes before the party.

[ResearchX]

Soamsey, Dude you are more retarded than I thought. You should be on Comedy Central's Mind of Mencia as one of his Dee..Dee..Dee's. You most are most likely under C.I.A. payroll because no one can be that stupid. Hilary will be Pres. Because the NWO/CFR has already arranged it.

[Soamsey]

I don't know what the "Dee...Dee" thing means. My IQ is high; I just don't agree with you. I don't allege that you are retarded; unlike you, I can accept that people have differing opinions. Probably we cannot move forward together in debate so I will just say take care.

[ResearchX]

Soamsey, You say country comes first. Well according to Military dot com, Bush's military advisor is suggesting a draft. Poetic Justice, now you can drafted for Iraq and put your money where your mouth is.

[Soamsey]

I don't have a problem with a draft and in fact I've considered enlisting despite advancing age. You have picked the wrong person to attempt to terrify with the notion of a draft.

[ResearchX]

Soamsey, You take care too. Good luck in Iraq.

[ResearchX]

The douche that made this video can also enlist or get drafted..Ha!. So guess what? "The Jokes on you" I hope you like 120 degree heat.

[Soamsey]

Regarding Gonzales, there is great precedent for firing those of the opposing party upon coming into office (as a new attorney general or as a newcomer to nearly any political position). It is done all the time, is perfectly acceptable, and was done by several of Gonzales's predecessors - though ironically Gonzales was more timid and conservative in his actions. Its just been decided that Gonzales will be crucified because Bush is hated.

[MjoEm32]

Right... latest report is here: big success right? Let me know what *would* consitute going badly, according to your definitions. Then I might listen.

[Soamsey]

It is palpable how much any good news angers you, MjoEm. Nearly all of the left is terrified of any possible success.

[MjoEm32]

Simply wrong on all counts. No right-thinking person wants carnage and slaughter. What angers me is the Bush administration cynically trying to spin bad news as good - and others trying to interpret my motives and opinions in a particular way when they have insufficient evidence to do so...

[Soamsey]

Some examples of the left being against success in Iraq include Reid calling the surge a failure on June 13, 2 days before the surge was fully deployed, and Rep Jim Clyburn saying positive news in Iraq would be "a real big problem for us." In other cases it is palpable to a politically neutral person such as myself that many on the left are rooting for loss as a means to personal political success.

[Soamsey]

Although it does not seem so outwardly, maybe inside you are different than these people and would be very glad to find convincing evidence that the surge is a success.

[Soamsey]

Examples of failure, or set-back are self-evident in my eyes, but two examples would be if Iran or Iraq insurgents used their relocated chemical or nuclear weapons to force a major US retreat or if in general there were high casualties of US soldiers in Iraq.

[Soamsey]

Right now they are staggeringly low -- 1/50th of yearly auto accidents, 1/15th of total deaths in Vietnam, 1/4th of yearly deaths by inhalation of objects!, and about equal to death by water transport!!!! I think there should be equal outcry about death in boating or by inhalation of objects!

[Soamsey]

Another example of failure would be pulling out of Iraq and allowing a possibly ensuing genocide (which is OK with Obama) and a consequent emboldening of Iran to continue with plans to exterminate the Jews (which is OK with Hollywood Jews and New York City lawyer Jews).

[MjoEm32]

If you are interpreting "success" as meaning the U.S. is more secure, the whole Iraq operation has been a massive distraction from dealing with Iran and Afghanistan. (Not to mention lumping together Iran and Syria in a way that simply limits diplomatic options.) The intelligence was poor, the reconstruction badly planned - or indeed not planned at all.

[Soamsey]

I believe being in Iraq has helped define the Iran problem (and would have been worth it for this alone) but I am also for increasing efforts against Iraq, Afganistan, Syria, etc. The only problem is antipathy from the left and the fact that little help from the effete Europeans means it is expensive for Americans.

[MjoEm32]

Again, I disagree, because there's simply a limit to the resources available. I would argue the correct course is to define the priority objective and go with that - it's a neo-con fallacy to suggest you can solve all these problems at once. I'm also unclear as to what your final goal with (e.g.) Syria would be, and how you hope to achieve it.

[MjoEm32]

How has being in Iraq "defined" the Iran problem in a way we didn't know before? As for "effete" Europeans, I can tell you as a British citizen that one way that the US won't get any help is by insulting its allies. Particularly given that the majority of British citizens now believe they were sold the war on the basis of a lie.

[MjoEm32]

If "success" means creating a stable and possibly even democratic Iraq, then the failure has been the lack of awareness that this requires a political solution - and there is still no real engagement with that problem. As for the "surge", the results have been mixed - but the real problem is that "stay the course" is not a policy.

[MjoEm32]

Having made the mistaken decision to invade, then certainly just leaving is not an answer to the problem. But neither is simply pretending that military solutions alone will help here. If I had any confidence that there anything like a clear policy, I would feel much happier about supporting it.

[Soamsey]

Agree that "military solutions alone" are not adequate (if this means it is important to include activities other than combat by both the military and non-military). This of course is being done but there is always room for more, one imagines.

[MjoEm32]

That's where we disagree - I see very little evidence of a coherent political strategy in Iraq. Without it, any (laudable) successes will be wasted. It's a great pity that the Bush administration didn't put a great deal more thought into this before it started out.

[MjoEm32]

As for being "OK" with genocide, I'm sure Obama can speak for himself - but lumping together all "Hollywood" Jews and NYC lawyers as though you know their opinions is rather cavalier. I enjoyed the joke about you being "politically neutral", incidentally.

[Soamsey]

I only claim to know the majority opinion of the Hollywood/NYU Lawyer left but probably 5% have a contrary opinion...this is a pretty monolithic group. As for me, not that it matters, but I am anti big business, extremely pro environment, pro centralized government planning, pro mass transit, pro increased support of the arts, but on the other hand pro family values and pro war. I have no party affiliations; my heroes range from Moynihan to Giuliani.

[MjoEm32]

Just a question: what does pro family values mean? If it means being anti-abortion and anti-gay then I disagree entirely - but then you might expect that given that political opinion on these issues is completely different in the UK.

[DennisQuaranta]

Get over it. We've gotten involved in stupid wars before, lost them, and moved on. I suggest you adjust your thinking accordingly.

[rgmulford]

GO!! ResearchX Don't waste your time conversing with this idiot--we owe all we have to you and the others who defend our incredible Country!

[ResearchX]

rgmulford, thank you. Glad to know that not all Americans are being duped much like g699a. g699a is a moron and a disgrace to our country. You are a true American Patriot who questions a corrupt gov. and believes in the constitution.

[g699a]

So our commander in chief is putting me in an oven. He has infrienged on my constitutional rights. I say he is not and will not! I think you are living outside of reality, my simple minded friend.

[g699a]

Oh, about the Bush Nazi thing, when is your delusional conspiricy supposed to manifest it's self? Still waiting...............still waiting........

[g699a]

Well at least I'll be able to baracade myself behind a few of your headless bodies and take a few of the jihadi's before they finally take me and America. Thanks to your, so called, love of country.

[g699a]

Furthermore that makes you worse than the enemy.

[g699a]

dogmanstar66: Just how long do we have to listen to you "cry wolf". Hope you enjoy your self imposed paranoid misery. To bad you people can't redirect that energy toward the security of the United States of America. Always taken the other side.

[unclejimbomadcity]

You guys are great.

Second post and you go Nazi Research and Dog Breath, what's wrong with us annexing a bit north and south? We do that occasionally.

Cordially,

Uncle J

[dogmanstar66]

You're stupid sack of shit freefly. Undermining the war effort my ass! This war is undermining the USA. You stupid fuckhead. Enjoy the life of slavery that this administration has in store for you in the North ASmerican Union.

[ResearchX]

This dude is a C.I.A paid opperative. He does not mention the lies to go to war (I.E. the downing street memos). He does not talk about the hundreds of millions going to private security companies who's stock has grown by 600 percent and in which most politicians own stock. This guy is a lying douch bag. Don't listen to him.

[unclejimbomadcity]

A douch bag? Glad to have you fact-checking me douche bag.

And I work for Rove not the CIA.

Cordially,

Uncle J

[ResearchX]

Oh you work for Rove? "What a joke you are to the Youtube world." Your Neo Nazi/ New World Order will end up in jail like Hitlers henchmen. The true Americans are getting fed up with your lies and corruption. Quit decieving the world and go back and crawl under whatever trailer park you came from.

[g699a]

It sure is a shame we have to defend the likes of you. It really does slow us down a bit. But that's what America's all about, right, taken a little bad with the greater good. After the war I'm sure there will be reprisals, of course. Perhaps a shaved head like the french did after WWII.

[Soamsey]

Rove is a Nazi but Obama doesn't think genocide in Iraq is an adequate reason to be in war and few Democrats would intervene if/when Iran begins its genocide attempts.  Let's be careful who we call Nazi.

[g699a]

Simply put, The Congressional Democrats are like Home team parents, at a Football game, rooting for the visiting team because they would want an interest in their concession sales and they hate the home team coach. They are our enemy's abetters and should be delt with in measure equal to their deeds. It's strange how the World has such a naive understanding of war and how this is played to the advantage of those the World should fear the most.

[batesm]

Repeal the Sedition act of 1918! The Sedition Act forbade Americans to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, flag, or armed forces during war. Makes you nostalgic for non-LIC wars...

[kwlamb]

"...a belly full of the Nutroots..."

Get the Tums.

[Giddyupdamnit]

Correct as usual Uncle J. Pelosi and Reid are representatives of the true Defeatocratic Party.

[HNK222]

What a joke! With the constant criticisms the rightwing gave Generals Abizaid and Casey, it's a bit hypocritcal to complain now because someone other than a Republican is criticizing a general! It is not only permissible, but necessary, to criticize the competence of military leaders who are doing an extremely poor job in executing their duties!

[unclejimbomadcity]

I don't recall Abizaid and Casey catching much flak at all from the right.

If Reid thought Petraeus incompetent, why did he vote to confirm him?

Cordially,

Uncle J

[HNK222]

"In response to the clear fact that sectarian violence is unhinging the effort to turn responsibility for security over to the Iraqis, Abizaid simply demands an acceleration of that transition. This is a recipe for disaster."

The Weekly Standard (11/27/06)

[HNK222]

"..the disastrous tactics of former secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld and General John Abizaid, which had allowed Sadr and his allies to become the only defenders of Baghdad's Shiites"

The Weekly Standard (4/30/07)

[HNK222]

"ultimately our military leadership has to bear some responsibility for its choices. So there is a strong case to be made against General Casey's promotion to Army Chief of Staff."

The National Review (2/21/07)

[unclejimbomadcity]

Point made.

Cordially,

Uncle J

[lookhearsee]

Excellent indictment of the shameless Reid, thanks for posting!