@ShelborZ Do it be a rebel!! \m/ Find someone that has a passion for metal! :D ....or at least a willingness to compromise and learn to understand you and either except the things you like, or just don't say anything against it lol
Fuck off with the djent shit. God damn. This is why I rarely watch Meshuggah videos, have to see these comments about Periphery and Structures and Fuckwhathipstercore.
This is an incredible piece of music, savage, disturbing, intelligent, sophisticated all at the same time! Using some really advanced polyrhythms and harmony too! The guitarist definately listens to Allan Holdsworth (jazz legend)!
@MrAmbidex1@Sepultura96@DiscoRByrno Haha you're all right in a way. Sepultura may be old but they are legends, atleast classics. Periphery and meshuggah are awesome, I think we all agree with that. And I also thing we all agree with that djent is a fucking annoying thing now. It was okay in the beginning, after more than a year now it PISSES ME OFF. But it isn't Mishas fault, he is himself annoyed about the thing that the FANS are creating. He is only using the word as an onomatopoeia.
idk but i cant help and feel that calling them and there unique blend of creative riffs djent is fucking lame! there an experimental band and labeling em to a category just seems something they themselves would go against and i understand it was them that coined the term but didnt intend on creating a new label of genre, just describing there sound..am i the only one?
First song by them that I like, the other ones seemed to be too repetitive, just a bunch of low notes being repeated over and over, but this has enough melody in it and progression for me. Or maybe I'm just getting used to them? lol
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@AnarchoAssassin if you think that meshuggah are complex compared to a band like gorguts, you're the one who doesn't know anything about music theory. you sound like one of those kids who hears one 'mathy' band and starts spouting off about 'polyrhythms'
@oibara2 What the fuck is "Gorguts"? Keep your shitty unoriginal bands to yourself. Meshuggah is the game changer, Gorguts is some shit I never heard about.
@OpethToolMetallica Oh yeah, too bad their "influence" isn't that well known then, huh? Even in the metal world. By the way, your name contains "Metallica" - your argument is invalid.
So if you didn't influence other bands you are not original?!?......
And since you don't like my name, my argument is invalid? ROFLMAO. There is only one way by which you can rightfully refute my arguments, and that is by PROVING them wrong, not by referring to some random fact which is totally irrelevant.
What's even more funny is that Metallica was a major influence for Meshuggah. Learn your logic and music history before you comment.
@OpethToolMetallica Yeah, Metallica was an influence for young, immature Meshuggah... not what they're known for today. I'll bet you something that Meshuggah would tell you how shitty Metallica really is.
If you don't influence, that means you're irrelevant. If you choose to put Metallica in your name, that means you hold the band in too high of a regard, hence your argument is invalid.
I will examine the band, and tell you my opinion of them.
@OpethToolMetallica Fucking idiot. Your own very pov is based on your shitty opinion (that Gorguts is more technical), as I could point out to you, but didn't consider relevant to the discussion. If Gorguts isn't a shitty band then they would be more relevant to the genre.
Hagström may think something about something, but that doesn't change general opinion. Also, that he respects them and listens to some of their old stuff still doesn't mean that they're not shitty in a different context.
@dujl whoever said gorguts is more techincal...the name "gorguts" generally sounds like a shitty death metal band with blast beats and double bass throughout the whole song lol
@OpethToolMetallica i listened to one of their songs...it was blast beats and speed picking, being able to play fast is nice, yes, but i would much rather different time signatures and what not...you have TOOL in your name i would figure that you would have a different opinion on what is technical. just about every band today is either pop or death metal, listen to Death, they are the most original death metal band i have ever heard, RIP
Actually Meshuggah has faster guitar parts than Gorguts. Blast beats are used at times, but what's the problem? If used well, that's fine. They don't overuse blast beats. watch?v=Lspl89ixSds&feature=related
I listen to Tool sometimes but the only member that's really technically gifted in that band is Danny Carey, sure the others are talented too, but Tool is more progressive than technical.
And last, if you checked my YT/LastFM page you'd know that I'm familiar with Death.
@OpethToolMetallica Metallica was very influential, nirvana just was a new genre that didnt last, like glam, my respect for metallica isn't that great because they truly let the fame go to their heads...Lars doesn't seem to practice his drumming much, i will say that Hetfield voice is good though, not to sound like a fanboy, but Dave Mustaine did give metallica a lot of ideas
After the AJFA tour they wanted the music to be less complex and of a technical exercise, they wanted to slow down, to experiment with more accessible rock. Quality-wise it was inferior to what came before, but making more accessible music isn't necessarily bad.
It happens a lot, like Megadeth following Metallica in going mainstream, they were just as mainstream.
Mustaine wrote a part of KEA, like the backbone of TFH and some riffs, but the albums after that were better anyway.
Nirvana wasn't new, grunge is just an umbrella term for 'bands from seattle that use a general seventies hard rock sound with some punk sensibilities from the general DC area'. Basically what you get when 80's era DC punks start messing around with the seventies hard rock and the Slow of the Melvins.
That's great man, me too, I say GO for it, fly the flag of us crazy souls making noise and partaking in strange backdoor activities for no other reason than wanton decrepit hedonist amusement and a face full of sweat. And maybe, just maybe, American Dream, bla bla, oh, I realize, this sentence is just as relevant and entirely sensible as your last! So what's the score here? What's next? ughn .. I MUST GET TO MY BACKSTAGE AREA, WHERE ARE THOSE GODDAMN MORNING GLORY SEEDS I ORDERED!!
Hold on man. I'm sure karma, God or maybe acid, all those lights at the end of human experiential tunnels, will send something your way soon enough. Let me tell you one thing though: reality is actually quite forgiving. Humans get money, the know-how, the people, the right time. They just don't pull at it hard enough or don't look right under their nose. So what this comes down to is; or up to? I don't know, but what comes up now is: It's not about resources. It's resourcefulness.
Arguments based on thin air. I didn't say anywhere Gorguts is more technical... I didn't even compare the two.
Also, by your logic: being good = being relevant = being influential. Hmm, names come up like Nirvana. Wait, maybe something went wrong there? Another example, Coroner, great band, but really influential? Not at all, and there are many more examples.
Being influential is a plus, but overall it doesn't say much about the quality of a band at all.
@OpethToolMetallica It seems we're not arguing anything, then, because the only thing I was invested in was disproving that Gorguts is somehow more technical than Meshuggah, whatever that means. Nirvana is definitely influential, so I don't see your point in that regard.
Mårten said he still plays the old Metallica, because obviously he knows they went from pretty good to bad. Metallica sucks in regards to drumming, evolution, faithfulness, and a whole lot of other things. He was being nice.
That's different from what you said initially, you said they were a shitty unoriginal band.
Nirvana is very influential, but they only have one interesting song, overall they really lacked inpiration or musicality, they are mediocre if you ask me.
Also, Metallica sucks with regard to evolution? LOL?! They were at the forefront of thrash, what they did was always followed by others a year or two later. David Ellefson acknowledged this, and more people do, like in Get Thrashed.
Also, he wasn't being nice, there was no point in stating something different than has own opinion, its not like he was trying to get something done. It's stupid and naive to read your own opinion in his', take it as it is.
Metallica did what they wanted, that's probably better than just playing the stuff your current audience wants you to, you're the artist, it's not some democratic process. This may seem paradoxical because they went more mainstream, but it still applies nonetheless.
@OpethToolMetallica Except Metallica lost their fire and purpose once Cliff died and they started sucking. Everyone knows this, so don't deny it. Metallica went from a pretty cool origins thrash metal band to pure mainstream shit. Don't try telling me their new stuff is inspired.
@dujl death magnetic isn't inspired, you're correct -- they returned to roots on DM they'd probably forgotten over time. that doesn't mean it's not good. it's on the other end of the spectrum from meshuggah: simple, harsh and right to the point. "suicide and redemption" is now one of my all-time favorites.
@mightyteegar I can do the solo in Suicide & Redemption, its nice.. but Meshuggah pretty much rapes them in the ass, when its comes to technicality, i guess Metallica are not trying, you know Meshuggah see's music as science, for Metallica its a vent of emotion. Wich makes them good at their points..
@BannanaOfDoom fair enough, but remember that technicality is only a means to a (very specific) end. SRV was never technical in a scientific sense, but not many blues musicians or fans before or since would accuse him of making bad music. anyway, music isn't science at its core; it's art, ultimately, and meshuggah's lucky -- they blend the two and create something greater.
don't get me wrong, metallica has a lot of catching up to do. still, DM was a good (re)start.
@dujl Not only that DM isn't an inspired record at all but many riffs and rhythms, containing in the listed tracks are almost direct ripoffs from their first albums.You are correct anyhow
Also, just admit it that you failed there. "I'll bet ... that Meshuggah ... how shitty Metallica really IS." The interview I linked was recent: "I still have tremendous respect for them [Metallica]" Shitty in what different context? If you RESPECT a band you can't think they're shitty at the same time regardless of context, if you think otherwise you fail to grasp the concept 'respect'....
Btw, I'm not even a fan of Gorguts, it's just stupid how easily you judge bands.
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@Mclovin171 That's why this band is the bomb! Their grooves are just so fucking out of whack! It takes like 35 listens each song to get into it, but when your locked in! Oooh yeah!
This song sounds very "positive" for Meshuggah. Did I hear even some major notes? Like it or not, I dig this "So you think you've understood that rhythm. So take this..."-game :)
I don't care if your boyfriend don't like this or if you fuck your girlfriend over this. I fuck my cat!
steinarao 1 week ago
this is the first old ( pre-nothing ) song from meshuggah i liked...the rest followed
Trawlling 1 week ago
Waaay ahead of their time..
thomasoring 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
2:30 No Meshuggah! My computer's gonna explo--
GregTehGoose 1 month ago
whrn i listen this song, i want destroy everething!!!!
MrOroburus 1 month ago
My boyfriend hates Meshuggah. FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU
ShelborZ 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Meshuggah 5
@ShelborZ What the hell is wrong with you're boyfriend!? lol
Aanalleinoneman 1 month ago
@Aanalleinoneman I don't know. He's fucking retarded. I should LEAVE HIM.
ShelborZ 1 month ago
@ShelborZ Do it be a rebel!! \m/ Find someone that has a passion for metal! :D ....or at least a willingness to compromise and learn to understand you and either except the things you like, or just don't say anything against it lol
Aanalleinoneman 1 month ago
@ShelborZ I can still just hope you're a girl tho ...
mysteriousDSF 3 hours ago
Fav thong from this album i think. "STEP BY STEP!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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this song reconstructs the way I view rhythms
xp3th0sr0ck 2 months ago
fucking ad!!
dankwarth 2 months ago
Meshuggah is the most powerfull thing ever in the universe
ReyCarmesi97 2 months ago
At least 170,000 of these views are mine
blobertisoriginal 3 months ago 3
"Hear how heavy that intro is?...that's from back when they only had 7 strings." "ONLY?"
mingnrich 3 months ago
THIS ISN'T DJENT AT ALL.
Progressive death-thrash metal FTW!
The1234doe 4 months ago 2
Fuck off with the djent shit. God damn. This is why I rarely watch Meshuggah videos, have to see these comments about Periphery and Structures and Fuckwhathipstercore.
MiddleGrounder 4 months ago 5
@MiddleGrounder Better idea. How about you just not scroll down? Then I won't have to see your equal annoying comment.
CyanideSovereign 3 months ago
@MiddleGrounder Thank you.
bass4312 3 months ago
@MiddleGrounder Lol I totally understand, just another idiotic sub-classification.
guitarshredking 2 months ago
I just now understood the meaning of 'djent metal'!!! Hurraaaay for periphery and meshuggah and music in general !!! :D
blister1324 4 months ago
This is an incredible piece of music, savage, disturbing, intelligent, sophisticated all at the same time! Using some really advanced polyrhythms and harmony too! The guitarist definately listens to Allan Holdsworth (jazz legend)!
pastalavista 4 months ago
2:55... One of the greatest head-bang/head-bob riffs ever.
Meshuggaaaahhhhh 5 months ago
THE ORIGINAL MATH METAL BAND. "NONE," AND "DESTROY ERASE IMPROVE," DEFINE THIS GENRE.
0:00 IS THE DEFINITION OF DJENT.
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playguitarlars 5 months ago
2:18 - Shit gets real
argondonkey 5 months ago 3
2:32 is the definition of the djent sound!
Trawlling 6 months ago
@Trawlling - 1995 :)
BenjaminKuruga 5 months ago
4:55 = BEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAR!! BEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!
ThatOnePaleKid 6 months ago 2
@ThatOnePaleKid hahahahahahahahaha
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PODofficial 6 months ago
@DiscoRByrno lol sorry man. Seplutura is dead. Djent is taking over and will always be the best. I win. No contest. =)
MrAmbidex1 6 months ago
@MrAmbidex1 @Sepultura96 @DiscoRByrno Haha you're all right in a way. Sepultura may be old but they are legends, atleast classics. Periphery and meshuggah are awesome, I think we all agree with that. And I also thing we all agree with that djent is a fucking annoying thing now. It was okay in the beginning, after more than a year now it PISSES ME OFF. But it isn't Mishas fault, he is himself annoyed about the thing that the FANS are creating. He is only using the word as an onomatopoeia.
NoaOno 6 months ago
@DiscoRByrno im not hating the bands music..just their push on the word djent!!
Sepultura96 6 months ago
idk but i cant help and feel that calling them and there unique blend of creative riffs djent is fucking lame! there an experimental band and labeling em to a category just seems something they themselves would go against and i understand it was them that coined the term but didnt intend on creating a new label of genre, just describing there sound..am i the only one?
Sepultura96 7 months ago
@Sepultura96 yes u are the only one so GTFO
MrAmbidex1 7 months ago
@MrAmbidex1 yea i bet your a periphery fan with misha's poster hanging on your wall with a shrine and rub one out every night to it!
Sepultura96 7 months ago
@MrAmbidex1 not really...but I am a fan, and sepultura is plain garbage.
MrAmbidex1 7 months ago
@MrAmbidex1 you wanna get off the ambien dude, you obviously no NOTHING about heavy music..
SilentDarkness2332 6 months ago
@SilentDarkness2332 You act like you know me...lol Stop whining.
MrAmbidex1 6 months ago
@MrAmbidex1 You act like people on the internet care about your opinions...lol
S0m3kind0fm0nst3R 6 months ago
@S0m3kind0fm0nst3R nah, that's just what you perceive. Stop whining
MrAmbidex1 6 months ago
@MrAmbidex1 I perceive that i was making a joke, and someone couldn't stop whining long enough to get it.
S0m3kind0fm0nst3R 6 months ago
Drums on this song are just fucking mental O.o
Headbanger9000 7 months ago
had to sign in to like video, missed 13 seconds. * slits wrists
jonnybfresh 7 months ago
First song by them that I like, the other ones seemed to be too repetitive, just a bunch of low notes being repeated over and over, but this has enough melody in it and progression for me. Or maybe I'm just getting used to them? lol
tunglour 7 months ago
groove metal done right.That's Meshuggah
entityfromthisrealm 7 months ago
My favourite part is 0:12
NoaOno 7 months ago
The four head-banging bad-ass bearded band members and the bald psychopathic frontman. I fucking love it.
Dementiatari1200 7 months ago
11 people have passed out from awesome metal and smacked the thumbs down button with there forhead...
zibblepwnz 7 months ago
0:45 is djentdjent djentdjent
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@thebeastman88 this isnt screamo
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tributomasacre2011 8 months ago
This is surprisingly easy to masturbate to :o
faselblaDer3te 8 months ago
powerfully, and wickedly awsome :)
crypticBhann 8 months ago
@dujl You've never heard of Gorguts? They're one of the most influential bands in technical death metal. You should check out their album Obscura.
DontPieceMe221 9 months ago 2
Jesus..did they ever tour with Pantera? I couldn't imagine a gnarlier show back then.
gothos1000 9 months ago 37
@gothos1000 Yeah, they have.
MikePostDrums 4 months ago
@gothos1000 Couldn't imagine a gnarlier show EVER!
surfthecentre 1 month ago
aguante meshuggah,
saludos desde argentina.
emanuel12144 10 months ago
djent djent.... djent djent.... djent djent.... djent djent djent djent djent djent..........
DUUUUUUURRRRRRR 10 months ago 48
@DUUUUUUURRRRRRR please tell me what the fuck djent stands for?
kawridr6 9 months ago
@DUUUUUUURRRRRRR exactly what i was thinking before coming here!!
Trawlling 6 months ago
@DUUUUUUURRRRRRR why si this top rated coment
yokiddingme 2 months ago
untoter zombie jesus christus
monteithbarraxoets 10 months ago
#OMG#
NestleistheBest 10 months ago
I listen to this whenever I have to take a slam, like right now.
VectorHeroe 10 months ago
lol @ Gorguts being called unoriginal.
On topic, the intro of this song rapes.
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eduardomazza 11 months ago
I have to say out of all the metal bands I like Messhuggah most. -3
kenzers17 11 months ago
02:59 to 03:40 is the one of the best parts of any song in the world!!!!! GODLINESS!!!!
NickySixThirty 11 months ago
and this is how djent was born
kevingoren 11 months ago
smoked a spliff and heard this for the first time
THIS SHIT MAKES MY HEAD FEEL LIKE FUCK
dannyandhisbass 11 months ago
this song made the healed bruises i got from playing hockey come back...
TheConnord12 11 months ago 3
holy FUCK (:
ThatReallyHighDude 11 months ago
this song is amazing!!!!
joeyofdoom666 11 months ago
DJENTY FUCKING KARMA
BannanaOfDoom 11 months ago
they play bad.
mystersamuel 11 months ago
DJENT DJENT
iamrichlol 1 year ago
soul burn, more like soul orgasm
slowblood99 1 year ago
behold the origin of "djent"
samfulfordskates 1 year ago 5
Sweden has Meshuggah and Opeth, Norway has Dimmu, and Denmark is getting SCAMP!
Oevlisen 1 year ago
Its those god damn swedish people
Oevlisen 1 year ago
ever since I started listening to Meshuggah, my dick went from being this shrivled up 3 inch Japanese cock, to a full blown Lex Steele I will fuck your Mother's gaping ass with all 18 inches. Also, I can now pull fireballs out of my ass and ejaculate wizards.
TetraVaalBioSecurity 1 year ago 3
9 people quit listening to metal and quit their bands
UnderTheMushroom 1 year ago
Hay all of you suck my dick
eball2k9 1 year ago
welcome to quake III arena
THEFREAK4498 1 year ago
these guys, and i'm referring to their lyrics, are like the death metal version of Rush
metelmoose 1 year ago
i love meshuggah but this sounds like akward metal funk, obzen is the right direction for them!
dawnofascendacy 1 year ago
they're catchy but talking about them being complex just looks silly next to stuff like gorguts
oibara2 1 year ago
@oibara2 Thats because you know nothing about their music. You probably also lack knowledge of music theory.
AnarchoAssassin 1 year ago
@AnarchoAssassin if you think that meshuggah are complex compared to a band like gorguts, you're the one who doesn't know anything about music theory. you sound like one of those kids who hears one 'mathy' band and starts spouting off about 'polyrhythms'
oibara2 1 year ago
@oibara2 meshuggah isnt bad tho...
bfia93 1 year ago
@oibara2 What the fuck is "Gorguts"? Keep your shitty unoriginal bands to yourself. Meshuggah is the game changer, Gorguts is some shit I never heard about.
dujl 1 year ago
@dujl
Lmao, moron. That was an EXTREMELY retarded comment calling a band you don't even know about unoriginal.
For the record, Gorguts is more original than most metal bands, not one band that I know of is alike them.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica Oh yeah, too bad their "influence" isn't that well known then, huh? Even in the metal world. By the way, your name contains "Metallica" - your argument is invalid.
dujl 1 year ago
@dujl
LLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLL
So if you didn't influence other bands you are not original?!?......
And since you don't like my name, my argument is invalid? ROFLMAO. There is only one way by which you can rightfully refute my arguments, and that is by PROVING them wrong, not by referring to some random fact which is totally irrelevant.
What's even more funny is that Metallica was a major influence for Meshuggah. Learn your logic and music history before you comment.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica Yeah, Metallica was an influence for young, immature Meshuggah... not what they're known for today. I'll bet you something that Meshuggah would tell you how shitty Metallica really is.
If you don't influence, that means you're irrelevant. If you choose to put Metallica in your name, that means you hold the band in too high of a regard, hence your argument is invalid.
I will examine the band, and tell you my opinion of them.
dujl 1 year ago
@dujl
Even more fail. Fact =/= opinion. You should now be able to figure out how wrong you are, or shut up.
"I'll bet you something that Meshuggah would tell you how shitty Metallica really IS."
Also, Hagstrom is there to tell you how shitty your opinion is: guitarmessenger com / interviews / marten-hagstrom-interview-meshuggah /
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica Fucking idiot. Your own very pov is based on your shitty opinion (that Gorguts is more technical), as I could point out to you, but didn't consider relevant to the discussion. If Gorguts isn't a shitty band then they would be more relevant to the genre.
Hagström may think something about something, but that doesn't change general opinion. Also, that he respects them and listens to some of their old stuff still doesn't mean that they're not shitty in a different context.
dujl 1 year ago
@dujl whoever said gorguts is more techincal...the name "gorguts" generally sounds like a shitty death metal band with blast beats and double bass throughout the whole song lol
xXxBuLLeTxXx1 1 year ago
@xXxBuLLeTxXx1
As long as you don't judge band by its name, Gorguts are far from generic death metal.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica i listened to one of their songs...it was blast beats and speed picking, being able to play fast is nice, yes, but i would much rather different time signatures and what not...you have TOOL in your name i would figure that you would have a different opinion on what is technical. just about every band today is either pop or death metal, listen to Death, they are the most original death metal band i have ever heard, RIP
xXxBuLLeTxXx1 1 year ago
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Actually Meshuggah has faster guitar parts than Gorguts. Blast beats are used at times, but what's the problem? If used well, that's fine. They don't overuse blast beats. watch?v=Lspl89ixSds&feature=related
I listen to Tool sometimes but the only member that's really technically gifted in that band is Danny Carey, sure the others are talented too, but Tool is more progressive than technical.
And last, if you checked my YT/LastFM page you'd know that I'm familiar with Death.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica Metallica was very influential, nirvana just was a new genre that didnt last, like glam, my respect for metallica isn't that great because they truly let the fame go to their heads...Lars doesn't seem to practice his drumming much, i will say that Hetfield voice is good though, not to sound like a fanboy, but Dave Mustaine did give metallica a lot of ideas
xXxBuLLeTxXx1 1 year ago
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After the AJFA tour they wanted the music to be less complex and of a technical exercise, they wanted to slow down, to experiment with more accessible rock. Quality-wise it was inferior to what came before, but making more accessible music isn't necessarily bad.
It happens a lot, like Megadeth following Metallica in going mainstream, they were just as mainstream.
Mustaine wrote a part of KEA, like the backbone of TFH and some riffs, but the albums after that were better anyway.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
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Nirvana wasn't new, grunge is just an umbrella term for 'bands from seattle that use a general seventies hard rock sound with some punk sensibilities from the general DC area'. Basically what you get when 80's era DC punks start messing around with the seventies hard rock and the Slow of the Melvins.
Sidar654231 1 year ago
@Sidar654231 actually it was hardcore punk, and good old rock n roll.
hamberg42 11 months ago
@hamberg42
Yeah that's what I said. Let's not argue, we wouldn't be able to convince each other having different sources and all. Let's just agree.
Sidar654231 11 months ago
@Sidar654231 I'm a musician.
hamberg42 11 months ago
@hamberg42
That's great man, me too, I say GO for it, fly the flag of us crazy souls making noise and partaking in strange backdoor activities for no other reason than wanton decrepit hedonist amusement and a face full of sweat. And maybe, just maybe, American Dream, bla bla, oh, I realize, this sentence is just as relevant and entirely sensible as your last! So what's the score here? What's next? ughn .. I MUST GET TO MY BACKSTAGE AREA, WHERE ARE THOSE GODDAMN MORNING GLORY SEEDS I ORDERED!!
Sidar654231 11 months ago
@Sidar654231 Beats me. I live in an area full of flaky musicians. Am sitting on a record deal with no band... for a couple years now..........
hamberg42 11 months ago
@hamberg42
Hold on man. I'm sure karma, God or maybe acid, all those lights at the end of human experiential tunnels, will send something your way soon enough. Let me tell you one thing though: reality is actually quite forgiving. Humans get money, the know-how, the people, the right time. They just don't pull at it hard enough or don't look right under their nose. So what this comes down to is; or up to? I don't know, but what comes up now is: It's not about resources. It's resourcefulness.
Sidar654231 11 months ago
@dujl
Arguments based on thin air. I didn't say anywhere Gorguts is more technical... I didn't even compare the two.
Also, by your logic: being good = being relevant = being influential. Hmm, names come up like Nirvana. Wait, maybe something went wrong there? Another example, Coroner, great band, but really influential? Not at all, and there are many more examples.
Being influential is a plus, but overall it doesn't say much about the quality of a band at all.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica It seems we're not arguing anything, then, because the only thing I was invested in was disproving that Gorguts is somehow more technical than Meshuggah, whatever that means. Nirvana is definitely influential, so I don't see your point in that regard.
Mårten said he still plays the old Metallica, because obviously he knows they went from pretty good to bad. Metallica sucks in regards to drumming, evolution, faithfulness, and a whole lot of other things. He was being nice.
dujl 1 year ago
@dujl
That's different from what you said initially, you said they were a shitty unoriginal band.
Nirvana is very influential, but they only have one interesting song, overall they really lacked inpiration or musicality, they are mediocre if you ask me.
Also, Metallica sucks with regard to evolution? LOL?! They were at the forefront of thrash, what they did was always followed by others a year or two later. David Ellefson acknowledged this, and more people do, like in Get Thrashed.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@dujl
Also, he wasn't being nice, there was no point in stating something different than has own opinion, its not like he was trying to get something done. It's stupid and naive to read your own opinion in his', take it as it is.
Metallica did what they wanted, that's probably better than just playing the stuff your current audience wants you to, you're the artist, it's not some democratic process. This may seem paradoxical because they went more mainstream, but it still applies nonetheless.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
@OpethToolMetallica Except Metallica lost their fire and purpose once Cliff died and they started sucking. Everyone knows this, so don't deny it. Metallica went from a pretty cool origins thrash metal band to pure mainstream shit. Don't try telling me their new stuff is inspired.
dujl 1 year ago
@dujl death magnetic isn't inspired, you're correct -- they returned to roots on DM they'd probably forgotten over time. that doesn't mean it's not good. it's on the other end of the spectrum from meshuggah: simple, harsh and right to the point. "suicide and redemption" is now one of my all-time favorites.
mightyteegar 11 months ago
@mightyteegar I can do the solo in Suicide & Redemption, its nice.. but Meshuggah pretty much rapes them in the ass, when its comes to technicality, i guess Metallica are not trying, you know Meshuggah see's music as science, for Metallica its a vent of emotion. Wich makes them good at their points..
BannanaOfDoom 11 months ago
@BannanaOfDoom fair enough, but remember that technicality is only a means to a (very specific) end. SRV was never technical in a scientific sense, but not many blues musicians or fans before or since would accuse him of making bad music. anyway, music isn't science at its core; it's art, ultimately, and meshuggah's lucky -- they blend the two and create something greater.
don't get me wrong, metallica has a lot of catching up to do. still, DM was a good (re)start.
mightyteegar 11 months ago
@dujl I fucking agree.. but jesus christ your everywhere, calm down a bit, relax, enjoy the music, not scratchneck's flaccid e-peen.. :)
BannanaOfDoom 11 months ago
@dujl Not only that DM isn't an inspired record at all but many riffs and rhythms, containing in the listed tracks are almost direct ripoffs from their first albums.You are correct anyhow
bloodyrockfire 11 months ago
@dujl
Also, just admit it that you failed there. "I'll bet ... that Meshuggah ... how shitty Metallica really IS." The interview I linked was recent: "I still have tremendous respect for them [Metallica]" Shitty in what different context? If you RESPECT a band you can't think they're shitty at the same time regardless of context, if you think otherwise you fail to grasp the concept 'respect'....
Btw, I'm not even a fan of Gorguts, it's just stupid how easily you judge bands.
OpethToolMetallica 1 year ago
What's there in desperation? What's real?
Flawless confusion.
layups 1 year ago
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Some of the worst music out there. Come to my channel and listen to some real music, not this horsecrap. Maybe some of you poor souls might still be able to be invited to the truth (however I think most of y'all are already lost cases). But, oh, how generous of me, I'll give you all a chance to enhance your knowledge and taste of music. You just have to be wise enough to leave this crap behind, and accept the help that I offer. You're all welcome, no need to thank me :)
scratchneck 1 year ago
@scratchneck Too obvious, but i'm sure someone will take your bait and give you the overwhelmingly ignorant reply you want. :)
aahwhatskill 1 year ago 2
@scratchneck man wtf r u talking about? if you dont like this divine music just don´t be an arrogant believing you and your music are better
Sergioy30 1 year ago
@scratchneck hey douchebag.......music is like candy, you ALWAYS throw away the (w)rapper. fuck right off and go listen to more lil wayne you MTV worshipping cocktard
shiftyscitzo 1 year ago
@scratchneck it's lost causes, not lost cases smart ass.
CoolCoverBro 1 year ago
Forever turning to a lifetime
Endless burning of soul and mind
STEP BY STEP im taken throught he past
to burn in fear of lies!
Its impossible not to hit the nearest person around you when all three of them roar "Step by step"
Premoguys 1 year ago
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they sound like static x here lol
brettrowan 1 year ago
man they sound like static X here lol
brettrowan 1 year ago
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Meshuggaaaahhhhh 1 year ago
Flawless Confusion.
Isn't that fucking awesome?
Doodorz 1 year ago
shity solo ... i'd like to see what miles would say )
treesinroom 1 year ago
the snare is so fucking tight in the beginning
BmGeoBm 1 year ago
i dont even know what they're saying, but this song fucking rocks
Jaggerx33 1 year ago
Lawls,
there's headbanging to Metal..
..and then there's headbanging to Meshuggah
EnigmaticOranmentV6 1 year ago 6
That hi-hat abuses my brain !
djidji213 1 year ago 41
HEY !!!!! I didn't give this song permission to stop playing !!!!! I'll punish it by pushing PLAY AGAIN !!!!!!!!!
FrolicEpidemic 1 year ago 60
@FrolicEpidemicYeah, make it go again like the little bitch it is. Make it suck your dick, too.
VioletAnarchist 10 months ago
@FrolicEpidemic /v/ChzWzkTwxIs&loop=1
ericsimaginaryfriend 10 months ago
@ericsimaginaryfriend huh?
FrolicEpidemic 10 months ago
@FrolicEpidemic you win the internet
mrphillanthropist 7 months ago
@mrphillanthropist this song wins the internet.
LWRCftw 7 months ago
this album makes me want to fight this album came out mid 90s fucking crazy!!!
franklinwagner 1 year ago
this album makes me want to fight
franklinwagner 1 year ago
8 peoples mind can only comprehend 4/4.
GodMentality 1 year ago 6
@GodMentality The beats starting at 2:19 and 4:48 are IN 4/4.
SaltpeterTaffy 1 year ago
@SaltpeterTaffy they all play in dif ts right
markbray69 1 year ago
Meshuggah makes my mind melt and leaves me speechless every time.
LemonZeppelin 1 year ago
what album is this song from? :)
Year6KM 1 year ago
@Year6KM Destroy Erase Improve
boggy676 1 year ago
its almost impossible to head bang consistently to this song lol
Mclovin171 1 year ago 5
@Mclovin171 That's why this band is the bomb! Their grooves are just so fucking out of whack! It takes like 35 listens each song to get into it, but when your locked in! Oooh yeah!
elmolester 1 year ago
Don't feed the trolls.
Enjoy the music.
Jesusplant 1 year ago 4
Great tempo. Mathmatical.
walnutius 1 year ago 3
Meshuggah are like farmers...... theyre out standing in their field
IDNotAvailable00 1 year ago 9
@IDNotAvailable00 lolol very creative comment, i lol'd
Metroid24242 1 year ago
4:38 those three stroke are amazing!
mariorossipuzza 1 year ago
oh...
my...
fucking...
god.....
MetalxxMike 1 year ago 9
This song sounds very "positive" for Meshuggah. Did I hear even some major notes? Like it or not, I dig this "So you think you've understood that rhythm. So take this..."-game :)
KackeEgal 1 year ago
they'r