11.15.09 Waters of Mars

[Kossimer]

That could be a quote:

"The things I do, for Who?"

[onebre]

ohoh rhyming!

[mikelogical123]

that was soo cute... Alonzi Alonzo..

[PKMNnerdfighter]

The Evil Doctor you reference is called the Valeyard, who shows up between the 12th and 13th. I thought of him right away too.

[onebre]

what episodes does Valeyard appear in? Someone else in the comments mentioned a comic book appearance. I really need to take the time to watch the old series... maybe i'll be able to get through the first 3 in January... hmmm...

[mikelogical123]

did u see the end of time??its sooooo good!!

[onebre]

i recorded a video after watching it, but it's a bit too long, so i'm going to try to edit it down before i upload it tomorrow.

[DigitalSid]

They repeated the news site thing to emphasise how much the Doctor was changing time, since it's important to DT's finale story.

[chillicothe20]

The purpose of the dalek flashback was 1) to show her inspiration to be one the first humans in space (on Mars specifically) and 2) to show it had spared her because her death was fixed in time, in 2059, and it could see that.

[DigitalSid]

What chillicothe20 said.

[ReadingDave]

I think the ood is like the newspapers. The Dr. sees how the ood will change in the future.

Also, the danger gong in the Tardis was going on, so, in a defracted timey-wimey way the three or four knocks are coming and this was just one part.

Also, the one Dalek manipulated time in impossible ways, perhaps he is still manipulating the doctor and something in the last episode will connect the Daleks with Mars and the Dr.

[onebre]

I had a chance to watch Confidential last night and the ood was suppose to be the same odd who first told the Doctor that his song was ending, so it makes a little more sense now

[flaziola]

Looking at the master he looks like a Happy-Slapping hoodie, Happy-Slapping hoodie with ASBO, Happy-Slapping Hoodie with ASBO and Ringtone eh? don't think I'm not with it.

Brownie points for who can work out what episode I referenced. (Clue, the main guest star is currently churning out some of the best Whoniverese stories this year)

The episode was a bit similar to Satan Pit, complete with Ood,

Meanwhile the Cartoon episodes start on Friday. Lets hope there's a good story there.

[humiliat3dGrape]

The news thing was way to repetitive and dumb.

I don't think the Doctor is going to go evil on us anytime soon, but he really did have to deal with himself in this one. I agree, he needs a companion to keep him in line. Donna and Rose were exceptionally good at this.

[onebre]

Yeah, I don't think he will be either either, especially with the return of the Master, but it did remind me of evil Doctor

[humiliat3dGrape]

I was confused about the suicide thing too. I mean, I understand why she did it, but if the Doctor had taken them to another time period or planet to live, nothing in history would have changed and they'd still be alive. Plus her body is still there.

Personally I liked the Dalek thing, it showed her that he knows much more and makes her trust him. Plus it explains why she is so set on going out into space and exploration.

[onebre]

Good point; it does make her trust him. However, there are other solutions to that problem that they could have thought up.

[LorChan1919]

I regect your spoiler warning and watch anyway.

From the video I get the following; There is a Dalek involved, Donna's coming back, and there is an evil Doctor.

I'm sick of the Daleks, I'm afraid of a stupid way of bringing back Donna and I'm looking foreward to seeing the episode now because the last I saw of an evil Doctor was 'The Forgotten' comic book, which confused the hell out of me. I still don't know if it's 10.2, or the TARDIS, or an alien, or what. He just melts like the wicked witch.

[onebre]

I thing that evil Doctor from the comic is the same thing I'm referring to... I need to watch the old series and figure this out. Yeah, knowing Russell T Davis, the way they bring Donna back won't make any sense, and Daleks are awesome, but they should no be overused