@TheWolverineTimes Notice how i made that comment 3 years ago? It turns out dickrod was the biggest coaching bust in Michigan history. When Michigan came out with Nick Sheridan at QB in the Utah game, and when we gave up the 55 yard pass on 3rd and long that set up their first TD, I knew that something wasn't right. And then 2 weeks later when we put egg on our face against ND, I knew dickrod was an experiment gone awry.
@Drybones195 they won a national championship a year b4 the BCS system started, in which shouldn't have started, they should have started the playoff system like the FCS
@Drybones195 yes i knew what a mythical championship is, but when i see the word "mythical" first thing i think of is made up, which is what the direction i thought you were going to
@GreenPumpkins I laughed when that happened. We got cocky and sloppy because it was appalachian. Appalachian got pumped up because they were playing in the big house. Shit happens.
yeah man i miss mike hart and jake long and mario manningham and all them guys, we lost so many great players in like 2 years but i think we'll be better next year
Yea Michigan always has athletes. Everyone acts as if Michigan doesnt have anyting after Hart, Manningham, Arington, Henne, and Long left. Yea they were great players but its time to move on. GO BLUE!!!
Exactly. Michigan doesn't rebuild, they reload. Carlos Brown, Brandon Minor, Greg Mathews, Junior Hemingway, and Carson Butler are the next wave of great offensive players at Michigan.
yup. exactly. I think if we had hired a coach from the schembechler tree such as Cam Cameron, Brady Hoke, Jim Harbaugh, or Ron English, we would have won at least 8 games each of the last two seasons. In both 2008 and 2009, literally half the scholarship roster was composed of the 4 and 5 star blue chip recruits that top powers like Florida and Ohio State stack up on. The talent WAS there, and dickrod and his staff WASTED it.
michigan has grady minor brown and mcguffie the problem we dont have that good of an oline mathews and clemons at wr the only thing is that we dont have to good of a qb the great thing to know RR is the king of the spread Off he will put something together for this year and we have time first 5/6 games at Home And are Defense is gonna be in the top ten this year
Those guys have watched and learned from the sidelines for 3 years. I think they've picked up plenty of hints on how to be successful.Plus, under R's coaching, I really am not worried about them. Heck, i'm not worried about the O-line period. People make it sound like our o-line is a bunch of freshmen with no talent, and nothnig could be further from the truth
RG=Cory Zirbel, redshirt junior (just like moosman, he's a former 4 star prospect wh finally has a chance to shine)
RT=Mark Orttman, redshirt junior (he say some nice playing time last year when schilling was banged up)
three of our 5 starters on the o-line DO have experience. The other two projected starters-Zirbel and Moosman-have plenty of raw talent, as they were former 4 star prospects, and technically they are redshirt juniors, so nobody can liken them to freshmen
And like you said, our runninggame and defense is stacked. We also ahve plenty of receiving options with Mathews, Clemons, Junior Hemingway, TE Carson Butler, TE Mike Massey, and incoming freshmen Darryl Stonum and Roy Roundtree
Exactly. Unlike last years Notre Dame squad, the 2008 Michigan Wolverines team is stacked with talent. Steven Threet and Justin Feagin are talented quarterbacks, but all they ahve to do in 2008 is be game managers. The runninggame and defense will take care of the rest
Carlos Browns two runs in this video were sick. He's going to be such a sweet tailback in RR's offense in 2008 (and 2009 if he comes back for his senior year)
Yah I really hope he gets the start over Minor, the only problem with Brown is his ball handling, he fumbled a few times, but thats nothing that can be fixed, as for 2009 we got our guy, Fitzgerald Toussaint (if thats how you spell it) He is better than minor and brown and hes just junior in HS, this guy is sick and should be awesome in maize n blue.
Toussaint will be sweet one day, but in 2009, Brown, Minor, and Grady will be seniors, and Sam McGuffie will be a true sophomore. I highly doubt Toussaint wills ee the field in 09 considering how deep Michigan will be at TB
I hope they give Grady a chance, but even if they don't, its not like we need him. We've still got Brown, Minor, McGuffie, Avery Horn, Terrance Robinson, and Michael Shaw for 2008, and then we've got Toussaint coming in in 2009. We're set at TB until 2013. Go Blue!
Robinson is going to the slot, but Shaw will most likely stay at tailback. He is too strong to put in the slot, he is more of a true back than Toussaint (three inches taller, fifteen pounds heavier). Fitz, Shaw and Mcguffie will compete for the future starting spot. That leaves us with Teric Jones, Terrence Robinson and Martavious Odoms at the slot (maybe Roy Roundtree too)
Rodriguez has speed all over the damn place, we're going to be crazy good in two seasons.
We're going to be really good right off the bat. RR will have us as a jauggernaut eveyr year for years to come. Like you said, we are loaded at TB for the forseeable future with Toussaint, Shaw, and of course, McGuffie. Don't forget Avery Horn either. he has great speed. Then at WR, we have all the guys you mentioned plus Junior Hemingway and Toney Clemons. We've also got a commitment from Bryce McNeal. And Roundtree probably will play receiver.
As the fourth receiver, Stonum probably won't put up very good stats, but in the future, that guy will be a gamebreaker, probably even more so then Roundtree. he's big and fast.
Try watching this video with the song "infected girls" by Electric 6. Start that song until it reaches 8 seconds in, then start this video....its a perfect combination!
I still think it will be a close game could go either way.And the utes have 16 starters coming back and won 8 of the last 9 games last season. Hopefully you guys won't injur our players like Oregon State did.
It COULD be a close game, but i don't think it WILL be. Utah may have 16 of 22 starters back, but Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters from a defense that ranked 24th in the country, returns everybody on special teams, and has game breakers at runningback (Carlos Brown, Brandon Minor, and Kevin Grady) and WR/TE (Greg Mathews, Carson Butler, Junior Hemingway, Mike Massey)
Yes i did. Utah looked great in that 35-32 win, but remember, that was Navy. This is Michigan, and this game is at the Big House, in the home opener, in RR's first game. I think Michigan will win it rather easily, although Johnson could give us some problems running the spread offense
After that game, I knew Lloyd Carr had to go. I had been a Wolverines apologist up until that game, defending Carr and defending what Michigan had accomplished this decade. But after that 34-32 loss to App State, I knew that Michigan needed a makeover. Thank God we have Rich Rodriguez to give it to us. We've done better then U-M haters think the last seven seasons, but losing 6 of 7 to Ohio State, 5 of 7 Bowl games, and multiple 3 and 4 loss seasons is unnacceptable. Carr had to go.
I don't hate Michigan or Ohio State i hate the BCS system because they didn't give utah a chance in 04.I feel bad for Michigan they lost to ohio state a lot and they lost to a.s.u. Yeah Carr is a efffing idiot. Lets not give each other crap on what will happen on 8/30/08
I don't hate Michigan or Ohio State i hate the BCS system because they didn't give utah a chance in 04.I feel bad for Michigan they lost to ohio state a lot and they lost to a.s.u. Yeah Carr is a efffing idiot. Lets not give each other crap on what will happen on 8/30/08
"i hate the BCS system because they didn't give utah a chance in 04"
Agreed. I think that in the 2004 season, there should have been a three game "playoff" between Utah, Auburn, and USC to decide the national champion.
Also, I wasn't trying to give you crap, but you said that Michigan should watch out for Utah, and I was just giving my opinion on the matter. we'll see what happens in 2 months. i'm going to bed. go blue!
-Michigan has a huge chip on its shoulder after losing last seasons home opener. They will come out with avengance trying to win this game
-Rich Rodriguez also will come out with a bone to pick in this game, as he has to send a message in his first game. He will have Michigan extra motivated for this game
-Michigan is supremely talented to Utah, and the game is at the Big House
"that 4 and 5 star prospects" from one of your previous posts, Prospects are different from players, so by saying prospects you are talking about the new players coming in outta HS.
Fine. 4 and 5 star PLAYERS. Whatever. You're missing the point: those guys have tons of talent. They are top notch athletes, and RR gets to work with them. Thats scary.
Michigan should be no worse then 4-2 after the first 6 games. They will lose to wisconsin, and I can accept a loss to illinois, but it is absolutely unnacceptable if they lose to Utah, Miami (OH), Notre Dame, or Toledo.
but the good thing is if we get the right QB then that will go good with the spread but i still think were gonna do really good this year because we have a really weak schedule.
I totally agree. The first 6 games are a cakewalk. That will give the offense (especially Steven Threet, Feagin, and the offensive line) plenty of time to grow and gain experience before Michigan heads into the teeth of their schedule. Unfortunately, they will lose to wisconin in game 4, as the offense gows through growing pains, but they will destroy Utah, Miami (Oh), Notre Dame, and Toledo, and they will also beat overrated Illinois by 10-14 points.
for a first week opponent, Utah is a very good team - they went 10-3 last year and beat some good teams like Louisville. and Notre Dame is not gonna go 3-9 this season, they're gonna take off the braces and bite with some sharper teeth this year. and Illinois is not overrated. we can't be too dissapointed if Michigan lose 3 or 4 of these first couple games in the Rodriguez era.
"Notre Dame is not gonna go 3-9 this season, they're gonna take off the braces and bite with some sharper teeth this year"
Even if Notre Dame improves this season (which is a longshot in and of itself), the Fighting Irish still aren't nearly good enough to beat Michigan. The Wolverines will crush Notre Dame for the third consecutive season. That trip to South bend will be a cakewalk.
Yes they are. USC exposed them as a fraud in the Rose Bowl. They are good enough to win 7 or 8 games (and I think they'll upset Ohio State for the second consecutive season), but they aren't good enough to beat Michigan....especially at the Big House. Michigan should and will beat he Illini by 10-14 points.
alright I hope you're right, they better beat Utah right off the bat and Notre Dame would be great especially after cheeseburger charlie just called us out. We'll see with Illinois, it's gonna be a great game no matter what and a big test for the new team.
Seriously. I'm not calling you an idiot here, but I don't understand why Illinois is considered such a great team. I mean, don't get me wrong, they are a good team. They are good enough to win 7 or 8 games and upset Ohio State. But hello, they lose Rashard Mendenhall and jay Leman, the game is at the Big House, and we beat them 27-17 last season. Illinois is NOT going to beat Michigan, and it really pisses me off when everybody says Illinois will do that.
And oh yeah, we've destroyed Illinois the last two times they've traveled to the Big House (including a 45-20 whitewash in 2001, the year they won the Big Ten title)
i dont think they will go undefeated, but i think that they will do better with the spread offense and rich rodriguez. they will do alot better. the only bad thing is that they lost all their good seniors
Yah, The offense I think will struggle, is a new system and we dont have the "Right" players YET. Defense is our strong unit and I doubt a 10 win season, I feel a 6-8 win season.
You are wrong. We DO have the right players. No honest person can say that 4 and 5 star prospects are the "wrong" players. Mike Barwis is molding guys like Greg Mathews and Carson Butler into "RR's players" as we speak. RR has his players, and with Justin Feagin coming in, he will have a QB to run the triple option and zone read when he wants to. And like you said, Michigan has a strong defense. They WILL win 10 games next season.
I would love to see a 10 win season, but like you said 4 and start RECRUITS. they are freshman, they have never played before,its a new level and you have to expect them to struggle in some situations. Yes Barwis is an animal but transition doesnt happen over night, But I never said they will not play fast,physical and tough every Saturday, But with road games AT penn ST, ND, and at Blowsu, 10 games seems like a stretch.
"but like you said 4 and start RECRUITS. they are freshman, they have never played before"
Actually, i wasn't necessarily referring to our incoming freshmen class. Guys like Mathews, C. Brown, Minor, and most of our players on defense were all tremendous talents coming out of highschool. They are all experienced, and they are all 4 and 5 star prospects, and RR gets to work with them now. I think that will lead to a huge season for the Wolverines in 2008.
No, but I think Michigan will exceed all expectations by going 11-2, beating Ohio State, winning the Big Ten outright, and making it to a BCS Bowl game. Go Blue!
@TheWolverineTimes Notice how i made that comment 3 years ago? It turns out dickrod was the biggest coaching bust in Michigan history. When Michigan came out with Nick Sheridan at QB in the Utah game, and when we gave up the 55 yard pass on 3rd and long that set up their first TD, I knew that something wasn't right. And then 2 weeks later when we put egg on our face against ND, I knew dickrod was an experiment gone awry.
Poole1Dan 7 months ago
How many BCS National Championships have the Loserines won?
Drybones195 7 months ago
@Drybones195 they won a national championship a year b4 the BCS system started, in which shouldn't have started, they should have started the playoff system like the FCS
MichiganFan39 7 months ago
@MichiganFan39 a mythical championship *14* years ago.
Drybones195 7 months ago
@Drybones195 mythical? you do realize it actually happened, therefore, its not mythical you dunce
MichiganFan39 7 months ago
@MichiganFan39 it's mythical, just like all of the Alabama Crimson Turds.
Drybones195 7 months ago
@Drybones195 your an idiot, its historical documentation, it happened
MichiganFan39 7 months ago
@MichiganFan39 you don't know what a mythical championship is? look it up you retard
Drybones195 7 months ago
@Drybones195 yes i knew what a mythical championship is, but when i see the word "mythical" first thing i think of is made up, which is what the direction i thought you were going to
MichiganFan39 7 months ago
@MichiganFan39 yeah you know what it is AFTER I told you to look it up
Drybones195 7 months ago
@Drybones195 you telling me to look it up had nothing to do with it, its not like just because you said it that i had to
MichiganFan39 7 months ago
@MichiganFan39 whatever
Drybones195 7 months ago
goooooo appalachian, 34-32... people don't forget :]
GreenPumpkins 1 year ago
@GreenPumpkins I laughed when that happened. We got cocky and sloppy because it was appalachian. Appalachian got pumped up because they were playing in the big house. Shit happens.
unicyclst 11 months ago
yeah man i miss mike hart and jake long and mario manningham and all them guys, we lost so many great players in like 2 years but i think we'll be better next year
darkp8ball 1 year ago
miss watching Heart in the maize and blue
scottm989 1 year ago
maybe rich rod knows what he's doing?
howl256 1 year ago
@howl256 ya good one, he knows offense, hes an off cordinator not a head coach
PJ2195 1 year ago
GO BLUE! Michigan for life!
gjb2107 1 year ago
fucking love michigan
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highroller454 3 years ago
SAM MCGUFFIE
thejman2041 3 years ago
Yea Michigan always has athletes. Everyone acts as if Michigan doesnt have anyting after Hart, Manningham, Arington, Henne, and Long left. Yea they were great players but its time to move on. GO BLUE!!!
mosogmich 3 years ago
Exactly. Michigan doesn't rebuild, they reload. Carlos Brown, Brandon Minor, Greg Mathews, Junior Hemingway, and Carson Butler are the next wave of great offensive players at Michigan.
Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
@Poole1Dan What about defense? Whatever you want to call it, Michigan is taking a long time to ''reload''.
OSUjunki 1 year ago
@OSUjunki I made this comment two years ago. I've had a big change of heart on dickrod since I made that comment
Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 1 year ago
@Poole1Dan Oh, Michigan needs a Michigan Man coach.
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@OSUjunki "Michigan needs a Michigan Man coach"
yup. exactly. I think if we had hired a coach from the schembechler tree such as Cam Cameron, Brady Hoke, Jim Harbaugh, or Ron English, we would have won at least 8 games each of the last two seasons. In both 2008 and 2009, literally half the scholarship roster was composed of the 4 and 5 star blue chip recruits that top powers like Florida and Ohio State stack up on. The talent WAS there, and dickrod and his staff WASTED it.
Poole1Dan 1 year ago
Like like Bo Schembechler who was from Ohio and never attended a class at Michigan.
billsbckr 1 year ago
@billsbckr also never attended a class at ohio state but yet he still worked there and at michigan
MichiganFan39 9 months ago
michigan has grady minor brown and mcguffie the problem we dont have that good of an oline mathews and clemons at wr the only thing is that we dont have to good of a qb the great thing to know RR is the king of the spread Off he will put something together for this year and we have time first 5/6 games at Home And are Defense is gonna be in the top ten this year
122cjw 3 years ago
Here's the deal with Michigans offensive line:
LT=Stephen Schilling, redshirt sophomore(returning starter at RT who's moving over to LT to replace Jake long. he's a former 5 star prospect)
LG=Tim McAvoy, redshirt junior (saw some decent playing time last year when Alex Mitchell was injured)
C=David Moosman, redshirt junior(former 4 star prospect who finally has a chance to shine)
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Those guys have watched and learned from the sidelines for 3 years. I think they've picked up plenty of hints on how to be successful.Plus, under R's coaching, I really am not worried about them. Heck, i'm not worried about the O-line period. People make it sound like our o-line is a bunch of freshmen with no talent, and nothnig could be further from the truth
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
RG=Cory Zirbel, redshirt junior (just like moosman, he's a former 4 star prospect wh finally has a chance to shine)
RT=Mark Orttman, redshirt junior (he say some nice playing time last year when schilling was banged up)
three of our 5 starters on the o-line DO have experience. The other two projected starters-Zirbel and Moosman-have plenty of raw talent, as they were former 4 star prospects, and technically they are redshirt juniors, so nobody can liken them to freshmen
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
And like you said, our runninggame and defense is stacked. We also ahve plenty of receiving options with Mathews, Clemons, Junior Hemingway, TE Carson Butler, TE Mike Massey, and incoming freshmen Darryl Stonum and Roy Roundtree
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
yeah who ever the qb is there gonna have some help its not like notre dame last year with no talent what so ever
122cjw 3 years ago
Exactly. Unlike last years Notre Dame squad, the 2008 Michigan Wolverines team is stacked with talent. Steven Threet and Justin Feagin are talented quarterbacks, but all they ahve to do in 2008 is be game managers. The runninggame and defense will take care of the rest
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
michigan is tha shit
corderoissohood 3 years ago
Carlos Browns two runs in this video were sick. He's going to be such a sweet tailback in RR's offense in 2008 (and 2009 if he comes back for his senior year)
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Yah I really hope he gets the start over Minor, the only problem with Brown is his ball handling, he fumbled a few times, but thats nothing that can be fixed, as for 2009 we got our guy, Fitzgerald Toussaint (if thats how you spell it) He is better than minor and brown and hes just junior in HS, this guy is sick and should be awesome in maize n blue.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
Toussaint will be sweet one day, but in 2009, Brown, Minor, and Grady will be seniors, and Sam McGuffie will be a true sophomore. I highly doubt Toussaint wills ee the field in 09 considering how deep Michigan will be at TB
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
yah, no doubt RB is our deepest position, lets hope they will give Grady a chance after his arrest, I dont expect to see him but you never know.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
I hope they give Grady a chance, but even if they don't, its not like we need him. We've still got Brown, Minor, McGuffie, Avery Horn, Terrance Robinson, and Michael Shaw for 2008, and then we've got Toussaint coming in in 2009. We're set at TB until 2013. Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Robinson and shaw are being put at WR, they are more of quick receivers than RB's.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
Really? Thats interesting. Well, we are deep at both TB and WR, so I guess it doesn't matter which position they play.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Robinson is going to the slot, but Shaw will most likely stay at tailback. He is too strong to put in the slot, he is more of a true back than Toussaint (three inches taller, fifteen pounds heavier). Fitz, Shaw and Mcguffie will compete for the future starting spot. That leaves us with Teric Jones, Terrence Robinson and Martavious Odoms at the slot (maybe Roy Roundtree too)
Rodriguez has speed all over the damn place, we're going to be crazy good in two seasons.
MaizeRage6320 3 years ago
We're going to be really good right off the bat. RR will have us as a jauggernaut eveyr year for years to come. Like you said, we are loaded at TB for the forseeable future with Toussaint, Shaw, and of course, McGuffie. Don't forget Avery Horn either. he has great speed. Then at WR, we have all the guys you mentioned plus Junior Hemingway and Toney Clemons. We've also got a commitment from Bryce McNeal. And Roundtree probably will play receiver.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
yep at WR do not forget Stonum, He should be a huge playmaker his freshmen year.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
As the fourth receiver, Stonum probably won't put up very good stats, but in the future, that guy will be a gamebreaker, probably even more so then Roundtree. he's big and fast.
Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Whats the name of this song?
74lanse74 3 years ago
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papereater32 3 years ago
Video was kinda choppy and the song is bad, but not a bad clip overall. I was waiting for somebody to make one of these for UM
MaizeRage6320 3 years ago
Try watching this video with the song "infected girls" by Electric 6. Start that song until it reaches 8 seconds in, then start this video....its a perfect combination!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Utah will win 9 or 10 games again in 2008, but I'll take the Wolverines in a 28-10 victory over the Utes.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
I still think it will be a close game could go either way.And the utes have 16 starters coming back and won 8 of the last 9 games last season. Hopefully you guys won't injur our players like Oregon State did.
thebest5367 3 years ago
It COULD be a close game, but i don't think it WILL be. Utah may have 16 of 22 starters back, but Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters from a defense that ranked 24th in the country, returns everybody on special teams, and has game breakers at runningback (Carlos Brown, Brandon Minor, and Kevin Grady) and WR/TE (Greg Mathews, Carson Butler, Junior Hemingway, Mike Massey)
BTW, does Utah return Brian Johnson at QB?
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Yeah. Did you watch the Utah Navy game?
thebest5367 3 years ago
Yes i did. Utah looked great in that 35-32 win, but remember, that was Navy. This is Michigan, and this game is at the Big House, in the home opener, in RR's first game. I think Michigan will win it rather easily, although Johnson could give us some problems running the spread offense
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Yeeah Navy sucks they lost to Delaware but utah lost to unlv ouch. Where u pissed when App state beat m?
thebest5367 3 years ago
After that game, I knew Lloyd Carr had to go. I had been a Wolverines apologist up until that game, defending Carr and defending what Michigan had accomplished this decade. But after that 34-32 loss to App State, I knew that Michigan needed a makeover. Thank God we have Rich Rodriguez to give it to us. We've done better then U-M haters think the last seven seasons, but losing 6 of 7 to Ohio State, 5 of 7 Bowl games, and multiple 3 and 4 loss seasons is unnacceptable. Carr had to go.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
I don't hate Michigan or Ohio State i hate the BCS system because they didn't give utah a chance in 04.I feel bad for Michigan they lost to ohio state a lot and they lost to a.s.u. Yeah Carr is a efffing idiot. Lets not give each other crap on what will happen on 8/30/08
thebest5367 3 years ago
I don't hate Michigan or Ohio State i hate the BCS system because they didn't give utah a chance in 04.I feel bad for Michigan they lost to ohio state a lot and they lost to a.s.u. Yeah Carr is a efffing idiot. Lets not give each other crap on what will happen on 8/30/08
thebest5367 3 years ago
"i hate the BCS system because they didn't give utah a chance in 04"
Agreed. I think that in the 2004 season, there should have been a three game "playoff" between Utah, Auburn, and USC to decide the national champion.
Also, I wasn't trying to give you crap, but you said that Michigan should watch out for Utah, and I was just giving my opinion on the matter. we'll see what happens in 2 months. i'm going to bed. go blue!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
ok we will seee what will happen in 2 months!!
thebest5367 3 years ago
the utes did not go 10-3. they went 9-4 Go utes quiet the big house 8/30/08
thebest5367 3 years ago
Good luck making it a close game. Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
haahaa it will be a close game man u guys have no qb. GOOD LUCK TO M go utes!!!! see ya in ann arbor
thebest5367 3 years ago
Here's why I think it will be a blowout:
-Michigan has a huge chip on its shoulder after losing last seasons home opener. They will come out with avengance trying to win this game
-Rich Rodriguez also will come out with a bone to pick in this game, as he has to send a message in his first game. He will have Michigan extra motivated for this game
-Michigan is supremely talented to Utah, and the game is at the Big House
-Utah is too used to Mountain West competition
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
"that 4 and 5 star prospects" from one of your previous posts, Prospects are different from players, so by saying prospects you are talking about the new players coming in outta HS.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
Fine. 4 and 5 star PLAYERS. Whatever. You're missing the point: those guys have tons of talent. They are top notch athletes, and RR gets to work with them. Thats scary.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Michigan should be no worse then 4-2 after the first 6 games. They will lose to wisconsin, and I can accept a loss to illinois, but it is absolutely unnacceptable if they lose to Utah, Miami (OH), Notre Dame, or Toledo.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
but the good thing is if we get the right QB then that will go good with the spread but i still think were gonna do really good this year because we have a really weak schedule.
GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!
mgoblue21000 3 years ago
I totally agree. The first 6 games are a cakewalk. That will give the offense (especially Steven Threet, Feagin, and the offensive line) plenty of time to grow and gain experience before Michigan heads into the teeth of their schedule. Unfortunately, they will lose to wisconin in game 4, as the offense gows through growing pains, but they will destroy Utah, Miami (Oh), Notre Dame, and Toledo, and they will also beat overrated Illinois by 10-14 points.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
for a first week opponent, Utah is a very good team - they went 10-3 last year and beat some good teams like Louisville. and Notre Dame is not gonna go 3-9 this season, they're gonna take off the braces and bite with some sharper teeth this year. and Illinois is not overrated. we can't be too dissapointed if Michigan lose 3 or 4 of these first couple games in the Rodriguez era.
bluebobbyd 3 years ago
"for a first week opponent, Utah is a very good team - they went 10-3 last year and beat some good teams like Louisville"
Thats what everybody said about the Miami Red Hawks going into the 2004 season, and we spanked them 43-10. We will spank Utah as well.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
"Notre Dame is not gonna go 3-9 this season, they're gonna take off the braces and bite with some sharper teeth this year"
Even if Notre Dame improves this season (which is a longshot in and of itself), the Fighting Irish still aren't nearly good enough to beat Michigan. The Wolverines will crush Notre Dame for the third consecutive season. That trip to South bend will be a cakewalk.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
"and Illinois is not overrated"
Yes they are. USC exposed them as a fraud in the Rose Bowl. They are good enough to win 7 or 8 games (and I think they'll upset Ohio State for the second consecutive season), but they aren't good enough to beat Michigan....especially at the Big House. Michigan should and will beat he Illini by 10-14 points.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
alright I hope you're right, they better beat Utah right off the bat and Notre Dame would be great especially after cheeseburger charlie just called us out. We'll see with Illinois, it's gonna be a great game no matter what and a big test for the new team.
bluebobbyd 3 years ago
Seriously. I'm not calling you an idiot here, but I don't understand why Illinois is considered such a great team. I mean, don't get me wrong, they are a good team. They are good enough to win 7 or 8 games and upset Ohio State. But hello, they lose Rashard Mendenhall and jay Leman, the game is at the Big House, and we beat them 27-17 last season. Illinois is NOT going to beat Michigan, and it really pisses me off when everybody says Illinois will do that.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
And oh yeah, we've destroyed Illinois the last two times they've traveled to the Big House (including a 45-20 whitewash in 2001, the year they won the Big Ten title)
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
i dont think they will go undefeated, but i think that they will do better with the spread offense and rich rodriguez. they will do alot better. the only bad thing is that they lost all their good seniors
brad2824 3 years ago
Yah, The offense I think will struggle, is a new system and we dont have the "Right" players YET. Defense is our strong unit and I doubt a 10 win season, I feel a 6-8 win season.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
You are wrong. We DO have the right players. No honest person can say that 4 and 5 star prospects are the "wrong" players. Mike Barwis is molding guys like Greg Mathews and Carson Butler into "RR's players" as we speak. RR has his players, and with Justin Feagin coming in, he will have a QB to run the triple option and zone read when he wants to. And like you said, Michigan has a strong defense. They WILL win 10 games next season.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
I would love to see a 10 win season, but like you said 4 and start RECRUITS. they are freshman, they have never played before,its a new level and you have to expect them to struggle in some situations. Yes Barwis is an animal but transition doesnt happen over night, But I never said they will not play fast,physical and tough every Saturday, But with road games AT penn ST, ND, and at Blowsu, 10 games seems like a stretch.
flamingcooking 3 years ago
"but like you said 4 and start RECRUITS. they are freshman, they have never played before"
Actually, i wasn't necessarily referring to our incoming freshmen class. Guys like Mathews, C. Brown, Minor, and most of our players on defense were all tremendous talents coming out of highschool. They are all experienced, and they are all 4 and 5 star prospects, and RR gets to work with them now. I think that will lead to a huge season for the Wolverines in 2008.
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
Does anybody think Michigan will go undefeated this year?
holtridge 3 years ago
No, but I think Michigan will exceed all expectations by going 11-2, beating Ohio State, winning the Big Ten outright, and making it to a BCS Bowl game. Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 3 years ago
uh, what is that song
SuperUmfan 3 years ago
lol weezy. good vid tho.
Weezy in FLINT TOMORROW AND THIS WEEKEND IN EAST LANSING! YEEEEEEEEH
GOBLUE97 3 years ago