In my opinion Ryusei is alot tougher to shoot down in OG 1 since his R-1 has a very high Mobility, higher then Weiss it seemed. However it's armor and and power is weaker then Alt's, but R-formation zeal and valor (with mental, sp up, and sp regenerate) it's just as useful. but this fight should've ended in a draw. The Alt was left unbalanced which would've been extremely bad for kyosuke if he used a boost and the R-1 was damage in the body severly which is where the TK System is if I'm correct
The Alt could've fired into the cockpit with his pile bunker if he had rounds in the arm to do it. There's very few real robots in the series with armor that can block a pile bunker to the cockpit as long as the stake hasn't snapped because of a barrier or some super alien armor that can only be broken by a super robot.
Although, I guess getting smacked all over with balls of solid titanium at that range would KO the pilot or cause the machine to freeze up.
@TheHiddenBoss Actually, story wise, R-1 is one of those real robots that can eat a Pile Bunker to the cockpit and survive.
It's armor was made from Zol Orihalcol alloy, further reinforced to make hand to hand combat viable, and it has feat of tanking absurd things in events. The most notable is taking an Axion Buster from R-gun Rivalve and still stood up, then combine into SRX (which is a great stress on the joints and modules)
@TheHiddenBoss Ah, yeah, it also tanked a Magnum Breaker from Rapiecage, essentially a beefed up bunker, in its R-wing form and no Nendou field, no less.
@nogugu You know how in Star Trek where they visit an alternate dimension where Spock has a goatee to show he's evil? Alt Eisen Nacht is Kyosuke's goatee.
@KatomaMundara No, the actual Alt Eisen Nacht looks different. You can see the map sprite of it at the start of OGs and it has noticable design differences. Later in OGs you see Kyosuke piloting a 'disguised' Alt Eisen which is blue, but is not the same as Beowulf's Nacht. (Or the one that shows up in Endless Frontier, for that matter.)
The "Nacht" is just a Paintjob customized Alteisen (note the name "ALTEISEN Nacht", the in SM Verse there was never an "Alteisen", just the "Gespenst Mk III". Same unit, but because there was never an "Alteisen", it could never be codenamed an "Alteisen nacht".
The fact you called it the Alt Eisen Nacht and then said it's the one Beowulf pilotted is a contradiction of facts AND canon, as he CANNOT pilot an Alteisen as it doesn't exist in his world!
@KatomaMundara The original appearance of the Nacht was actually in the code for OG2, where it was Beowulf's version. There it was titled the "Alt Eisen Nacht," which is where the name came from in the first place and why people knew about it before Endless Frontier. Regardless of the fact that it should be called the Gespenst Mk.III, the game's code refers to it as the Alt Eisen Nacht.
Alt Eisen is Gespenst MK3 Prototype along with Weiss Ritter. At mirror world Alt was never named. That is why Axel still call it Gespenst MK3.
Due the heavy weaponary most pilot can't control this mech, for some reasons Kyosuke is skilled enough to pilot this cool mech. So i think Alt Eisen is better than R-1. Ryusei is a noob PT pilot at this time, so i can't call it an even.
No, Weißritter is a customized Mk. II and Alteisen is not Gespenst Mk. III. Marion is in denial about the fact that it got rejected that classification.
And Beowulf's unit IS Gespenst Mk. III. That's what it's called. You're completely backwards.
I'm pretty sure the only reason kyosuke managed to counter ryusei was because kyosuke got info from ingram on the SRX team BEFORE the fight, giving kyosuke 2 advantage
1. he's was the test pilot for the R-1 proto so he knows more or less about the r-1 (the 2 robots are similar so)
@beastbass1 i might be wrong cause i only played the gba games but...kyosuke only piloted the wildraubtier and only fought with it in flying mode thingy
No, they're basically giant BBs. Do you even know what a missile is? Missiles aren't metal balls, they're self-propelled, aerodynamic explosive projectiles.
@countrybluegrass Yes, I know what a missile is. I'm not an idiot. :/ I just never really payed enough attention to the claymores to notice that they aren't missiles.
Ryusei could kick Kyosuke around like a rag doll if he was at his SRW @3 level of experience. He he was just n00bsauce, the exact opposite of l33tsauce.
@BathedinSin The Alt was never good in the first place, story and plot-wise. It was heavy, unwieldy, hard to balance and its weapons had a "weird range", probably the fact that even as a real robot, most of its armaments are mid - melee ranged, but that didn't coincide with the speed (or lack thereof).
However, no other Real Robot at the time could break through ambushes and break through fortifications with that mix of armor and close range weaponry.
Meh, this scene on the GBA version (no real cutscene, just a scripted battle) always bugged me.
Mainly because when I got to the battle I had to TRY in order to not oneshot the punk because of that Alteisen was higly upgraded and Kyosuke high level.
An idea just pop up in my head about why Ryusei decided to attack the left hand first.
Technically, for normal Gespenst, the Plasma stakes/plasma cutters, their main melee weapons, are on the hand where Alt chain gun was on, and since Alt id code basically scream that its a customized Gespenst, naturally, the first thing someone unfamiliar with it would want to disable is that certain hand with 3 sticks on it, not the one with 1 stick.
1. horn is hard mounted on the head, less maneuverable, also more obvious when used, because the whole body will rush forward,
2. short range, high risk of eating the second knuckle first, R-1 was about to use its left and was only stopped short by the Stake
3. Just a heat horn (not even plasma), no guarantee it can do anything against nendou field and the Zol Orihancol armor (withstood a sonic break and can still fight). Even the Stake to cockpit+Claymore combo only make it stop working
I think it had more to do with Kyosuke intentionally blocking with the left arm. It was cut a bit short, but he seemed like he was lifting that arm into place to take the blow.
since, after re-watching it, I noticed that if his arm didn't take the blow, it would be the cockpit that got hit.
although it also appears that Ryusei actually tried to use the double knuckle variant instead of single hit, well, I guess its up to each person about this matter.
Plus, in the English version, before that specific T-Link Knuckle is launched, Ryusei claims it's going to be a sure kill, so he's definatly aiming for the cockpit.
And to the theory of aiming for the Gespies Jet Magnum arm, he'd know better. After all, when Alt first showed, it rushed R-1 and Revolver Stake'd him.
A Tlink Double Knuckle, one crippling and the other finishing the opponent of is a sure kill attack too... if it connected that is
For the arm matter, its not like the Stake hit, and it doesn't look that impressive until it hit, so I doubt Ryusei really know how deadly it was until too late. Well, its just a theory, so its up to you if you think its true.
If you go with the GBA version though, Kyo said something like 'damn, there goes my arm', which seems to mean he didn't expect the damage.
It was a draw but mostly because Ryusei have R-1 armor to save his butt if was not for that he will be death as is clear in the fight that Kyosuke Is a better pilot.
@c1v1k1 yeah, if they were given mechs with the same capabilities kyosuke would've won. Not that the alt is bad, but he said it before that it was way harder to balance than a gespenst...... also, while ryusei only managed to hit the arm, kyosuke was able to parry the second hit and give a perfect blow to the body.
by tradition, most gundam based mech cockpits are located in the chest, however in SRW the construction of the mechs , the way they're referenced to, etc. imply that the cockpit is located in the head.
Is it fair to fight against a real-robot-sized super robot (which the Alteisen basically is) that can equip weapons normally like an ordinary RR? I don't think so XD
The original games refer to the Alteisen and Weissritter as "customized Gespies" so that among other details like equipment customization make them both much closer to real robots than super robots.
They just have pretty insane abilities that even confused me too as to what their classification was. Simply wanted to share some info, not being anal here. =P
I know. Alteisen is the prototype for the Gespenst MkIII (Alteisen is just a nickname), but it was considered a failure because of the balance issues due to the heavy armour and the Claymores. And Weissritter is basically a heavily customized MkII with Tesla Drive.
Alteisen is technically a Real Robot, but its HP and Armour levels are similar to a "weak" Super Robot, and the Riese is as tough as a Grungust. That's why I like to call it a RR-sized SR, cause it's such a nice hybrid ^^ !
Yes, actually, the original Gespies themselves, while considered real robot, many border on being super robot, namely the Gespy type S and Gespy MkII type S.
While Alteisen is a customized mech on a Gespy frame, doesnt mean it can be considered mini-super robot. Actually, it can be said that Riese has already archive the status of a SR with the ability to swap equipment.
I think they actually did it on purpose with Types S, so when enemy attacks it thinking it is just another Gespy, he would recieve SURPRISE RIDER KICK to the face.
Sigh... there goes Ryusei being retarded and knocking off his auto cannon arm. He totally deserved the steak up his stomach and point blank range of claymores.
Well considering he is right handed you punch with your right arm first, I'm sure he wasn't expecting a stake in between his attack, especially since that WAS what he was aiming for
R-1's armor is composed of Zol Orihalconium. Zol Orihalconium is some of the strongest known metal in the OG Universe. Note that it's the strongest armor item that you can equip in the OG games.
R-1, as well the other R-Series units, can take a beating just as well as they can dish it out.
Zol Orichalcon is pretty rare considering you can only get it in La Gias. So the R-1 wouldn't have a thick layer, so it can maintain agility as well as reasonable defense.
Kyosuke > Ryusei. Damn the anime series for focusing on the SRX team. Thankfully the OVA that takes place after OG1 and OG2, focuses on the ATX team.
As much as you may hate it, OG1 is more about SRX team than ATX (Bian, Mai/Levi, Ingram and even Atad, the final bosses of OG1 has more connection to SRX team). Just like OG2 is about ATX team, no question asked
Kyosuke is a kind of boring character. I like him but ingame wise I prefer to use Ryusei. Though I hate to compare games, OG 1 was alittle more special and important to me plot wise.
No. Ryusei made the mistake of aiming for the weak arm and left Alt's main weapon intact. That gave Kyosuke the chance to stop his attack half way through and counter with his most powerful attack at close range. It was a clear loss for Ryusei. The battle was to show that Kyosuke still had more experience then Ryu.
Agreed. Also note that this is before Ryusei had realized his full piloting ability and TK. (T-Link Sword) I think it would be interesting to see Rai vs. Kyosuke, seeing as Rai is the experienced non-Psychodriver on the SRX team.
Ryusei with R-1 is lot stronger than kyoske with Alteisen, because R-1's mobility with Ryusei's telekinesis makes
R-1 unable to get hit (cca. 160 mobility in og2), and its power is owerwhelming . Alteisen's power equeal with R-1, but in mid-late game its armor is not enough (cca. 2000), and does not have strong barrier , only a poor beam coat, since R-1 has a t-field
This is so unfair. R-1's only a third of a robot, but the ATX team would do just fine with just Kyosuke and Excellen. The combined SRX could still take the entire ATX team down singlehandedly.
R-1 speed-Alts higher weaponry and distance attacks+profesiional=Alts victor Though Ryusai has speed he only has a few long range attacks while Alt has many not to mention a skilled pilot.
R-1 is just made light and fast moving just like the astray in gundam seed except R-1 uses guns.... kyosuke couldve owned him if the disadvantage on alts heviness and not having the t-link system....or maybe i should say physhic
It's supposed to be a draw, the video seems to show Kyosuke destroying Ryu's R-1 but the battle ends with both of those busted up. Besides, is only a cinematic when ATX meets SRX.
why the OG of GBA had ocidental version and of the PS2 no?
MichelLima1000 1 month ago
In my opinion Ryusei is alot tougher to shoot down in OG 1 since his R-1 has a very high Mobility, higher then Weiss it seemed. However it's armor and and power is weaker then Alt's, but R-formation zeal and valor (with mental, sp up, and sp regenerate) it's just as useful. but this fight should've ended in a draw. The Alt was left unbalanced which would've been extremely bad for kyosuke if he used a boost and the R-1 was damage in the body severly which is where the TK System is if I'm correct
beastbass1 7 months ago
The Alt could've fired into the cockpit with his pile bunker if he had rounds in the arm to do it. There's very few real robots in the series with armor that can block a pile bunker to the cockpit as long as the stake hasn't snapped because of a barrier or some super alien armor that can only be broken by a super robot.
Although, I guess getting smacked all over with balls of solid titanium at that range would KO the pilot or cause the machine to freeze up.
TheHiddenBoss 7 months ago
@TheHiddenBoss Actually, story wise, R-1 is one of those real robots that can eat a Pile Bunker to the cockpit and survive.
It's armor was made from Zol Orihalcol alloy, further reinforced to make hand to hand combat viable, and it has feat of tanking absurd things in events. The most notable is taking an Axion Buster from R-gun Rivalve and still stood up, then combine into SRX (which is a great stress on the joints and modules)
It's in-game stat doesn't reflect that, though.
TamanoBaka 4 months ago
@TheHiddenBoss Ah, yeah, it also tanked a Magnum Breaker from Rapiecage, essentially a beefed up bunker, in its R-wing form and no Nendou field, no less.
TamanoBaka 4 months ago
So how did alteisen nacht came about
nogugu 1 year ago
@nogugu You know how in Star Trek where they visit an alternate dimension where Spock has a goatee to show he's evil? Alt Eisen Nacht is Kyosuke's goatee.
DaImpAtom 1 year ago 8
@DaImpAtom Best description of the Nacht ever.
RavensNestStudios 11 months ago
@DaImpAtom
Erm, Nacht is actually, y'know... just a recolored Alt to look like the Mk III...
KatomaMundara 8 months ago
@KatomaMundara No, the actual Alt Eisen Nacht looks different. You can see the map sprite of it at the start of OGs and it has noticable design differences. Later in OGs you see Kyosuke piloting a 'disguised' Alt Eisen which is blue, but is not the same as Beowulf's Nacht. (Or the one that shows up in Endless Frontier, for that matter.)
DaImpAtom 8 months ago
@DaImpAtom
That's the Gespenst Mk III.
The "Nacht" is just a Paintjob customized Alteisen (note the name "ALTEISEN Nacht", the in SM Verse there was never an "Alteisen", just the "Gespenst Mk III". Same unit, but because there was never an "Alteisen", it could never be codenamed an "Alteisen nacht".
The fact you called it the Alt Eisen Nacht and then said it's the one Beowulf pilotted is a contradiction of facts AND canon, as he CANNOT pilot an Alteisen as it doesn't exist in his world!
KatomaMundara 8 months ago
@KatomaMundara The original appearance of the Nacht was actually in the code for OG2, where it was Beowulf's version. There it was titled the "Alt Eisen Nacht," which is where the name came from in the first place and why people knew about it before Endless Frontier. Regardless of the fact that it should be called the Gespenst Mk.III, the game's code refers to it as the Alt Eisen Nacht.
DaImpAtom 8 months ago
@KatomaMundara Oh Latoma. You're an ass on DMG and you're an ass on YouTube.
RavensNestStudios 5 months ago
Kyosuke was a PT pilot longer than Ryusei, it's only natural Kyosuke will win.
ChronoZeroX 1 year ago
Alt will win over R-1 in any way you look at it.
crusnik102605 1 year ago
Alt Eisen is Gespenst MK3 Prototype along with Weiss Ritter. At mirror world Alt was never named. That is why Axel still call it Gespenst MK3.
Due the heavy weaponary most pilot can't control this mech, for some reasons Kyosuke is skilled enough to pilot this cool mech. So i think Alt Eisen is better than R-1. Ryusei is a noob PT pilot at this time, so i can't call it an even.
faiz625 1 year ago
@faiz625
No, Weißritter is a customized Mk. II and Alteisen is not Gespenst Mk. III. Marion is in denial about the fact that it got rejected that classification.
And Beowulf's unit IS Gespenst Mk. III. That's what it's called. You're completely backwards.
countrybluegrass 1 year ago
How did that not kill Ryusei? That's heavy claymore...POINT BLANK.
Kairadragon 1 year ago 2
I'm pretty sure the only reason kyosuke managed to counter ryusei was because kyosuke got info from ingram on the SRX team BEFORE the fight, giving kyosuke 2 advantage
1. he's was the test pilot for the R-1 proto so he knows more or less about the r-1 (the 2 robots are similar so)
2: already explained
beastbass1 1 year ago
@beastbass1 i might be wrong cause i only played the gba games but...kyosuke only piloted the wildraubtier and only fought with it in flying mode thingy
linzig32 1 year ago
still, I'm pretty sure he got info on Wildraubtier PT mode and on the R-1
beastbass1 1 year ago
god, kyosuke is overrated
BrotherhoodOfTheDead 1 year ago
The R-1 is part of the SRX, the strongest Real Robot ever.
The Alt is basically just a customized Gespy.
They tied.
This says something for Kyosuke's skills as a pilot.
JagWar1752 1 year ago
Alt OWNS!
kdesano8 1 year ago
when i did this on the gameboy the R-1 went down with one hit -_- ... ALTEISEN ROOLZ!!!
ATXMKIII 1 year ago
When I did this alteisen went down with one hit >_>, didn't even have to use spirits
beastbass1 1 year ago
@ATXMKIII Depends on how much you upgrade your R-1, really
ThePhoenix986 1 year ago
Damn, I really would not want to get hit by those shoulder mounted projectiles.
Colddirector 1 year ago
@Colddirector They're Claymores (missiles) ^_^'
gamester512 1 year ago
@gamester512 They aren't missiles. Just... spheres made out of titanium.
Shaftronics 1 year ago
@Shaftronics Oh. :P
gamester512 1 year ago
@gamester512
No, they're basically giant BBs. Do you even know what a missile is? Missiles aren't metal balls, they're self-propelled, aerodynamic explosive projectiles.
countrybluegrass 1 year ago
@countrybluegrass Yes, I know what a missile is. I'm not an idiot. :/ I just never really payed enough attention to the claymores to notice that they aren't missiles.
gamester512 1 year ago
@countrybluegrass
actually... it fits the definition of "missile"
A metal ball CAN be a missile
don't believe me? google the definition.
TimesNewSparta 8 months ago
Ryusei could kick Kyosuke around like a rag doll if he was at his SRW @3 level of experience. He he was just n00bsauce, the exact opposite of l33tsauce.
KingLazerman 1 year ago
Performance wise, the Alteisen is a pretty shitty mech.
BathedinSin 1 year ago
@BathedinSin It's actually pretty good as long as you put points into improving its defense. Alt is convinced it's a Grungust sometimes.
Durwagon 1 year ago
I meant story and plot wise. If I remember correctly, the Alt didn't have flight capabilities.
BathedinSin 1 year ago
@BathedinSin The Alt was never good in the first place, story and plot-wise. It was heavy, unwieldy, hard to balance and its weapons had a "weird range", probably the fact that even as a real robot, most of its armaments are mid - melee ranged, but that didn't coincide with the speed (or lack thereof).
However, no other Real Robot at the time could break through ambushes and break through fortifications with that mix of armor and close range weaponry.
Only Kyosuke could use it well.
Shaftronics 1 year ago
@Durwagon Maybe Alt is the baby of a Grungust and a Gespy? lol jk XD In any case Alteisen KICKS ASS! :D
gamester512 1 year ago
Meh, this scene on the GBA version (no real cutscene, just a scripted battle) always bugged me.
Mainly because when I got to the battle I had to TRY in order to not oneshot the punk because of that Alteisen was higly upgraded and Kyosuke high level.
And then a scripted battle ends like this. WTF?
rifri98a 2 years ago
The same thing apply for both side
Well, even if the animation seem lethal, only the mech was disable and no one was killed.
And if you killed the other side first, how can the "let exchange our strongest blow" scene happen?
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
that would be cool if Ryu and Kyo got a combo attack
but I think is would be more along the lines ofa combo attack between both the ATX and SRX teams.
I will say this
I feel very robbed of Alt vs R1 in Divine wars.
I would have loved to have seen an entire episode dedicated to this batte, R1 vs Alt R2 vs Wiess, and Grungust vs Huck MK II
But I was surprised to see a massive group Ghost rampage, As epic as it was it still doesnt fill the place of R-1 vs Alt anime battle
SmithyJones 2 years ago
I hope they give Ryusei and Kyosuke a kickass combo attack in the next OG. They are the two heros of the series.
KingLazerman 2 years ago
Ouch claymore at point blank
haxerx123 2 years ago 2
An idea just pop up in my head about why Ryusei decided to attack the left hand first.
Technically, for normal Gespenst, the Plasma stakes/plasma cutters, their main melee weapons, are on the hand where Alt chain gun was on, and since Alt id code basically scream that its a customized Gespenst, naturally, the first thing someone unfamiliar with it would want to disable is that certain hand with 3 sticks on it, not the one with 1 stick.
TamanoBaka 2 years ago 4
Even if he had gone for the right arm Kyosuke still had the heat horn on its head and he'd have been impaled either way.
GetterRay 2 years ago
1. horn is hard mounted on the head, less maneuverable, also more obvious when used, because the whole body will rush forward,
2. short range, high risk of eating the second knuckle first, R-1 was about to use its left and was only stopped short by the Stake
3. Just a heat horn (not even plasma), no guarantee it can do anything against nendou field and the Zol Orihancol armor (withstood a sonic break and can still fight). Even the Stake to cockpit+Claymore combo only make it stop working
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
I think it had more to do with Kyosuke intentionally blocking with the left arm. It was cut a bit short, but he seemed like he was lifting that arm into place to take the blow.
lupuslunari 2 years ago
yeah, that's highly possible too
since, after re-watching it, I noticed that if his arm didn't take the blow, it would be the cockpit that got hit.
although it also appears that Ryusei actually tried to use the double knuckle variant instead of single hit, well, I guess its up to each person about this matter.
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
Plus, in the English version, before that specific T-Link Knuckle is launched, Ryusei claims it's going to be a sure kill, so he's definatly aiming for the cockpit.
And to the theory of aiming for the Gespies Jet Magnum arm, he'd know better. After all, when Alt first showed, it rushed R-1 and Revolver Stake'd him.
TwistedAlly 2 years ago
A Tlink Double Knuckle, one crippling and the other finishing the opponent of is a sure kill attack too... if it connected that is
For the arm matter, its not like the Stake hit, and it doesn't look that impressive until it hit, so I doubt Ryusei really know how deadly it was until too late. Well, its just a theory, so its up to you if you think its true.
If you go with the GBA version though, Kyo said something like 'damn, there goes my arm', which seems to mean he didn't expect the damage.
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
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KingLazerman 2 years ago
i can't wait to buy those models soon
toonamikid 2 years ago
It was a draw but mostly because Ryusei have R-1 armor to save his butt if was not for that he will be death as is clear in the fight that Kyosuke Is a better pilot.
c1v1k1 2 years ago 23
@c1v1k1 yeah, if they were given mechs with the same capabilities kyosuke would've won. Not that the alt is bad, but he said it before that it was way harder to balance than a gespenst...... also, while ryusei only managed to hit the arm, kyosuke was able to parry the second hit and give a perfect blow to the body.
jonasneto 1 year ago
@c1v1k1 Don't, just don't there is at least one fanboy of Ryu that cares enough to flame logical people like you.
supersaninpikachu 1 year ago
@c1v1k1 then why did the better pilot let his arm get punched the fuck off?
solar464 3 months ago
alteisen was probably my top favorite mech, totally rocked
DeViLmAn0Niteshade 2 years ago 6
Silly Ryusei, melee against the Alt is Axel's job. Try the TK Sword next time.
ArbalestEmerald 3 years ago
The R-1 is unfinished, and cant move well at this point, also, it also haven't got the T-link sword
TamanoBaka 2 years ago 2
if i remember right he ryusei gets t-link sword after this chapter, kyosuke gets trump card as well
theomadman 2 years ago
Even when they fought the Valsion Kai, R-1 still hasn't got T-link sword yet, if I'm not mistaken, which is quite a long time after this fight.
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
been a while since ive played og1
i could be wrong
theomadman 2 years ago
Ryusei and Kyosuke. Almost like Ryu and Kyo from SNK vs Capcom.
Makaijima 3 years ago
Ryusei's main flaw was that he decided to attack with a jump. Being in the air leaves him completely open.
kenshinsd 3 years ago
Damn, how does Ryusei survive that, the stake went straight for the cockpit.
HeirOfSparda 3 years ago
by tradition, most gundam based mech cockpits are located in the chest, however in SRW the construction of the mechs , the way they're referenced to, etc. imply that the cockpit is located in the head.
Talancir 2 years ago
there's no fixed location for the cockpit in OG Robots, however, generally, they are in the chest, just like Gundams, at least for real robot
R-1 actually survived thank to its Zol-Orihalcol armor (yes, its one of the toughest armors one can get in OGverse) and may be its nendou field
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
Is it fair to fight against a real-robot-sized super robot (which the Alteisen basically is) that can equip weapons normally like an ordinary RR? I don't think so XD
EvilDoresh 3 years ago
The original games refer to the Alteisen and Weissritter as "customized Gespies" so that among other details like equipment customization make them both much closer to real robots than super robots.
They just have pretty insane abilities that even confused me too as to what their classification was. Simply wanted to share some info, not being anal here. =P
Zakerii 2 years ago
I know. Alteisen is the prototype for the Gespenst MkIII (Alteisen is just a nickname), but it was considered a failure because of the balance issues due to the heavy armour and the Claymores. And Weissritter is basically a heavily customized MkII with Tesla Drive.
Alteisen is technically a Real Robot, but its HP and Armour levels are similar to a "weak" Super Robot, and the Riese is as tough as a Grungust. That's why I like to call it a RR-sized SR, cause it's such a nice hybrid ^^ !
EvilDoresh 2 years ago 2
Yes, actually, the original Gespies themselves, while considered real robot, many border on being super robot, namely the Gespy type S and Gespy MkII type S.
While Alteisen is a customized mech on a Gespy frame, doesnt mean it can be considered mini-super robot. Actually, it can be said that Riese has already archive the status of a SR with the ability to swap equipment.
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
Yeah, Riese can take quite a beating. With a little bit more moral-depended weapons, it'll be a "real" SR.
And I don't think any Gespy has enough endurance to be considered SR.
EvilDoresh 2 years ago
borderline, I never said any Gespy except Alt could be considered a SR
Higher def and melee focus, and super-like attack make the type S function extremely similar to a super type
TamanoBaka 2 years ago
Yeah, that's true. But he looks so much like a normal Gespy that I didn't thought about that ^^
EvilDoresh 2 years ago
I think they actually did it on purpose with Types S, so when enemy attacks it thinking it is just another Gespy, he would recieve SURPRISE RIDER KICK to the face.
UnnamedSeeker 2 years ago
Man, I can already imagine it in my head...
"Aw, what a cute Gespen..."
"GESPENSTO...KIIIIIIIICK!" *lots of sfx*
EvilDoresh 2 years ago
R1 is finished for sure.
kenchan44 3 years ago
Sigh... there goes Ryusei being retarded and knocking off his auto cannon arm. He totally deserved the steak up his stomach and point blank range of claymores.
BluePlue 3 years ago
Well considering he is right handed you punch with your right arm first, I'm sure he wasn't expecting a stake in between his attack, especially since that WAS what he was aiming for
HavenKhaos 3 years ago
an opening that may lead to ryusei's death...
wow...
even if it is a defected mech, it's powerful in it's own rights...
myemoside999 3 years ago
i just realized from this clip, that the R-1's armor is much tougher than we are led to believe.
LM314V21 3 years ago
R-1's armor is composed of Zol Orihalconium. Zol Orihalconium is some of the strongest known metal in the OG Universe. Note that it's the strongest armor item that you can equip in the OG games.
R-1, as well the other R-Series units, can take a beating just as well as they can dish it out.
flaminghopps67 3 years ago
yea but ingame wise R-1 definately is one of those units to dodge rather than defend. or it could just be that R-1's armor is thin...
LM314V21 3 years ago
Zol Orichalcon is pretty rare considering you can only get it in La Gias. So the R-1 wouldn't have a thick layer, so it can maintain agility as well as reasonable defense.
IchimonjiGiri 3 years ago
lol the R-1 ate the Alt's heavy claymore attack
DragonFist2500 3 years ago
Ya'll mothafuckas is crazy!
jnyse808 3 years ago
Kyosuke > Ryusei. Damn the anime series for focusing on the SRX team. Thankfully the OVA that takes place after OG1 and OG2, focuses on the ATX team.
JustinStrife 3 years ago
As much as you may hate it, OG1 is more about SRX team than ATX (Bian, Mai/Levi, Ingram and even Atad, the final bosses of OG1 has more connection to SRX team). Just like OG2 is about ATX team, no question asked
TamanoBaka 3 years ago
Kyosuke is a kind of boring character. I like him but ingame wise I prefer to use Ryusei. Though I hate to compare games, OG 1 was alittle more special and important to me plot wise.
KingColins 3 years ago
I prefer kyosuke it got more firepower
acarmelo1 3 years ago
i prefer ryusei , i like how he does his moves xD
+ Banpreios is <3
ferryarthur 3 years ago
But don t get me wrong xD i also love rampage ghost :) and alt eisen Riese :D i m also more used to Ryu
ferryarthur 3 years ago
...... wow total loss by ryu. it seemed more even in the GBA version....... the revolver stake alone was KO
Steps1000 3 years ago
alt used up its ammo isn't it?
and r1 is immobilized.
to me, it seems like a draw
jaxltt 3 years ago
Theres always the heat horn :D
sekaiichibannobaka 3 years ago
No. Ryusei made the mistake of aiming for the weak arm and left Alt's main weapon intact. That gave Kyosuke the chance to stop his attack half way through and counter with his most powerful attack at close range. It was a clear loss for Ryusei. The battle was to show that Kyosuke still had more experience then Ryu.
SmashCake 3 years ago 14
Agreed. Also note that this is before Ryusei had realized his full piloting ability and TK. (T-Link Sword) I think it would be interesting to see Rai vs. Kyosuke, seeing as Rai is the experienced non-Psychodriver on the SRX team.
diseasicon 3 years ago
And in the GBA version this battle create a relationship bonus called "Rival" between Ryusei and Kyosuke.
TamanoBaka 3 years ago
Wow, i Think that just a rain of some hundred claymores would be more than enough if he just run insanely to the death o_o
RazorSF 3 years ago
thats so cheap attack i mean if i was kyosuke i would probably stake revolve him and R1 will just have to stand there
mwong666 3 years ago
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using missle like that looks really stupid to me
tastykimchiOFDOOM 3 years ago
Because they aren't missiles, stupid.
They're like shrapnel. Or as its namesake, "Claymore" like in real life, "Claymore" mines.
Do you even play this game? >_>
Shaftronics 3 years ago 8
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well yeah i do. its just that they fly so fast they look like missles -.-
tastykimchiOFDOOM 3 years ago
They're more like really large ball bearings being projected by an explosive charge.
NuclearConvoy 3 years ago
Damn it Ryusei! How could you let yourself have that huge opening!
Has all those years of videogames gone to waste!?!
BlanixTheBlood 4 years ago 2
Does anyone know what Kyo says before staking him? I can make out:
Ryusei: Ultimate Technique... T-Link KNUCKLE!
Kyosuke: ...(dunno)....But, that's enough! This is my Trump Card, R-1!
hungreid 4 years ago
Something like 'The left arm got ------(Porbably destroyed or something similar) but if the right arm remains then it's good enough!'
CGX1 3 years ago 2
Ouch, I hope those were paint rounds..
lawlandorder 4 years ago
SHINING FINGER! er... wrong series
machriderx 4 years ago 23
LOL!!!!!
shariq000 4 years ago
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Ryusei with R-1 is lot stronger than kyoske with Alteisen, because R-1's mobility with Ryusei's telekinesis makes
R-1 unable to get hit (cca. 160 mobility in og2), and its power is owerwhelming . Alteisen's power equeal with R-1, but in mid-late game its armor is not enough (cca. 2000), and does not have strong barrier , only a poor beam coat, since R-1 has a t-field
tyaty 4 years ago
Damn!! That was a good move by Kyosuke
Rnnyg13 4 years ago 2
This is so unfair. R-1's only a third of a robot, but the ATX team would do just fine with just Kyosuke and Excellen. The combined SRX could still take the entire ATX team down singlehandedly.
Socran 4 years ago
SRX needs 4 ppl to work at 100% capacity. And ATX team is made of reals, and SRX is a super robot.
Of course Kyo is alot better than Ryusei is a real vs real fight.
insaneflorist 4 years ago
Thing is, Ryusei's right arm hit Kyosuke's left, and as you can see, he willingly gave up his Autocannon arm to keep his Claymores intact.
It was a total rout. Draw my ass.
skiboydoggy 4 years ago 3
I love when the R-1 goes limp when it gets staked.
CorvusMoore 4 years ago 3
R-1 speed-Alts higher weaponry and distance attacks+profesiional=Alts victor Though Ryusai has speed he only has a few long range attacks while Alt has many not to mention a skilled pilot.
Bodashus 4 years ago
both on the same side= enemy pwnage
LM314V21 4 years ago
R-1 is just made light and fast moving just like the astray in gundam seed except R-1 uses guns.... kyosuke couldve owned him if the disadvantage on alts heviness and not having the t-link system....or maybe i should say physhic
S0Manz0 4 years ago
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BOO. R-1 was definitely better than Alteisen in OG1.
camparianbliss 4 years ago
not if its armor was so light the stake could punch into the torso. thing's built fast-not tough.
dropthepin 4 years ago
he went into Alteisen's domain; CQB. And with light armor.
dropthepin 4 years ago 8
draw my ass! xDD claymore owned =X
ThePuppet 4 years ago 5
It's supposed to be a draw, the video seems to show Kyosuke destroying Ryu's R-1 but the battle ends with both of those busted up. Besides, is only a cinematic when ATX meets SRX.
germanggx 4 years ago
Alteisen > R-1
I always loved Kyosuke and his Alt more than the wussy R-1
CoreSplendor 4 years ago 2
nice...Alt for the win!
sketch316 4 years ago
And yet this was called a draw in the Original OG... I always wondered since Alt only lost an arm, and R-1 got totalled.
IchimonjiGiri 4 years ago 2
That was supposed to be a draw?! I hate to see what its like to lose.
sanderrm 4 years ago 4
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OGs retconned the draw to a clear Kyosuke win.
censorshipsucks 3 years ago
R-1 got owned.. Or 'staked' for the better word? :o
8BitManiac 4 years ago
damn shoulda gone for the revolver stake arm lol
mysticcrimson 4 years ago 2