The Dalai Lama's Demons, Part 1 (France 24)

[Danchiba]

i think dharma should be considered as the leading knowlege.

[TheYoumirror]

I fly past all dieties :)

dzogchen.

[JimmyTheKirkie]

ओं मणिपद्मे हूं,

Om mani padme hum!

[TheUnemployedsamurai]

They found the wonrg child for Dalai Lama. The current Dalai Lama has broken the balance and does not have my respect. There is more spiritual freedom in Tibet now than when the Dalai Lama was ruling that land. someone should throw a shoe at Dalai Lama.

[inbal66]

@TheUnemployedsamurai i pray for you that you will be delivered from ignorance

[fnubayun]

the shugden pactitioner are those people who regard money more then another things,it is clear that they just take shugden as a wonpen to against tibetan people and H H the dalia lama, but in reality they need money from chinese gov,in the same way they are not really buddhiset monk just wear a monk clothes is not means they are monk.

[ABCDIR]

Delhi High Court:

"In an order dated April 5, 2010, Justice S. Muralidhar dismissed the writ petition and application on the grounds that the allegations of violence and harassment were vague averments and that the raised issues do not partake of any public law character and therefore are not justiciable in proceedings under Article 226 of the Constitution.

Citing the absence of any specific instances of any such attacks on Dorjee Shugden practitioners, ..."

[leedhi]

2 of 2: I also believe that we will ALL agree that it is horrible that the world sees the contradiction between the actions of "Buddhists" and the pure teachings of Buddha Shyakamuni. Let's stop looking at our difference and start looking at where we stand together.

[happytenzin]

@leedhi: You have very little knowledge about this issue and one that is not the teachings of the great Shakyamuni Buddha. Shugden is a dark spirit upon which is associated with violence, revenge, and tantrics. It is not in the teachings of the Buddha, and Buddha's main goal was to show an end to suffering, a freedom from samsara and attaining nirvana.

[parasitesarefunny]

@happytenzin

It is not the Shugden who spit on people, hit people, worship a mortal man, refused food, refused shelter etc...

The Shugden is a higher level of knowledge that the mortal man with power (Dalai Lama) does not want to loose.

The Dalai Lama is like the evil Pope who seeks control and self worship.

[leedhi]

1 of 2: I believe the message of the video is focused on the suffering individuals are experiencing as a result of the ban of Dorje Shugden. I believe that when we put our arguments aside, everyone will agree that NOBODY, especially Shanghas (monks) should have to suffer this way.

[TibetHeart]

Wow ton of these people all joined Jan 11, 2010. They they all over the YouTube sites pretending to have pro-Shugden conversation. TOO MESSED up.

Don' you care about the kids in the mountains??? They are dying right now while you are helping the Chinese government. SICK. SICK. SAD.

[sunam11]

Fuckkk u Shukden Monster Evil Rot in HELL, God Willing. Liar Fuckkk U.

[aguswidjaja]

In China, a Tibetan has the freedom to go anywhere he wants, any thing he wants to buy, any school he wants to study in, any hospital he wants to seek medical help in. The whole country is his.

[jaymo108]

7:10 Seriously who honestly believes this crap?

[NorthernDancer1111]

A relatively minor deity in this case Dorje Shugden had been elevated in error some 5oo years ago . And in this material world, it seems all too often is too tempting for many to worship deity which promises immediate worldly gains.

Make sure you do all your homework folks! I feel personally that the Dalai Lama has been too nice and has been too reluctant to come out with this issue until very recently although warnings about this deity have existed since 5th Dalai Lama.

[nostra120]

@NorthernDancer1111 actually the 5th Dalai Lama started out against DS but later changed his mind to be for DS, creating the first Shugden chapel in the world Trode khangsar. Even making the first DS statue in the world still around today in a monastery in nepal. The real kicker is after getting all the high lamas at the time to perform a fire puja at the same time to destroy DS. The very next day DS took trance in the oracle to show his true nature for all to see.

[NorthernDancer1111]

As usual @ Nostra,,,it's always going to b difficult to argue what has now become a cultish issue. Just be aware and beware be mindful of yourself and surroundings nostra...Don't b afraid to drop this demon when time comes. He cannot harm you if u have true faith in Dharma. Guru Rinpoche is especially effective. Seek true and deep teachings with ancient lineage. Good luck! :)

[nostra120]

yup i truly agree with you on seeking true and deep teachings with ancient lineage. It quite funny though this issue is logicall illogical, that if you don't have true faith in dharma you can get lost easily, espeically newbies. Think HHDL has a lineage, but bans the practice, yet allows his gurus incarnation to practice, and hence continuing the lineage of the ds practice. high lamas can't dispel the "demon" after soo many years. These are simple questions but deep.

[NorthernDancer1111]

500 year old ghost does not make a deep lineage. lol!!! I hope you are familiar with teachings which include masters from long before that. Don't b afraid to let go when the time comes my friend there will b no shame in admitting and you will be stronger and more complete to be a positive voice for those still in the fog about this issue. Ensure you take note of yr state of mind presently and pass on what you learn help others understand deception of mundane minor malevolant spirit wrship

[nostra120]

1 DS is not a spirit because he does not have the karma to be destroyed by high lama rituals. He also does retailiate hence showing nature of mind which is compassion.

2 HHDL gives exception for Trijang Rinpoche to continue practicing. Hence to teach also.a

3 Prediction made already for DS to takeover from Nechung.

4 HHDL life is not being threatened by this practice.

5 Tibet is lost because of Nechungs advice not DS, so why blame DS.

6 I'm not afraid to let go or admit, are you?

[czrsilp]

What has shugden done to help helpless tibetans in Tibet? Dalai Lama is the only hope and voice for tibetans of Tibet, and these shugden are working with China to silence that voice. No wonder you guys are spirit worshipers.

[czrsilp]

who is shugden?

[snowlandboytulku]

达赖喇嘛的信徒就是迷信混了头的追随者,不能接受别人评价达赖的­话,对这些人来说达赖放屁也是香,或别人批评达赖的话那他们狂燥­失控，所以杀人放火的事都干得出来好像红卫兵迷老毛似的。你看你­自己情绪就知道随意恶毒污蔑攻击说雄天信徒杀人,警察说可能是的­话,你说是他们杀人，这就是所谓迷达赖信徒，还说修行学佛呢。我­呸！当恶狗还差不多

[Tangou999]

Dalai Lama against his own disciples of cultivating Shugden practice. This angered Shugden's disciples and resulting in murdering of Dalai Lama's cabinet members. In order to bring peace to humanity, the Shugden cult has to be stopped of such evil act.

[lionheart3724]

If this is not evidence of Human Rights abuses then I don't know what is!

Not only that, we see the tibetan Prime Minister inciting people to demonize and scapegoat Shugden people. Quite vicious really.

Not surprising Shugden people in tibetan society are beaten and harassed wherever they go.

Dalai Lama stop your lies.