If you are opposed to drugging and diagnosing kids with no verifiable disease please see the Jani Schofield vids. This child is being used to support an agenda of psycho drugging kids with autistic tendencies. Please speak out against these abuses!
good video: my friends son, age 18, was found hanging and he was on some medication he was the only son can the living learn from the dead? people, stay clear from evil disguised as doctors with white robs those doctor better dress in black robs and black hats no offense to real witches. sad story in a civilized country what a paradox. we have a lot to learn, in this life
i took lamictal and it got me into manic psychosis, it never went away, the police took me to hospital i didnt knew where i was, now im stuck with more medication, abilify and seroquel wich will give me diabetes soon, those who did this to me i will punish them
Science created drugs are a way to control the population. Look how many people die per year from these drugs and others. That dont include science/lab created disease either. its all about population control!!! Youtube population control.
Psychiatric drugs are usually prescribed as a "solution" to a problem. But they only mask the problem and never allow the person to look at its real cause. Everyone strongly disagrees with the enforced and harmful methods employed by psychiatrists. Psychiatrists fail to mention the horrendous side effects of their drugs. They often cause irreversible damage to the brain and nervous system. These effects usually require a further drug to contain them.
What crimes are you hiding from? They are doing much more to save this dying planet then anybody. Anyone who attacks them, is a criminal who wants everyone dead so they can be safe
Lame argument. Scientologists are far from the only people exposing and decrying what these diagnoses, these drugs and the psychiatric-pharmaceutical industry have harmed and are harming people.
Reported: German Schoolshooter also on antidepressants.
"The teen, underwent several treatment sessions for depression at a psychiatric clinic that year, said investigator Siegfried Mahler. He showed up for five sessions between April and September, and was expected to continue outpatient therapy at a different clinic, but never began it, Mahler said."
Google: "German police suspect chat room posts were faked"
The evidence is all around us. The question is: What will YOU do about it? I know what I'm doing about it. I'm talking to as many parents as I can about the dangers of medicating children. My next target is public and private schools in the Phoenix, AZ area. It's time to take responsibility. That's it! No more of this. You can have the balls to step up and do something, or you can be a spectator and do nothing.
Plenty of evidence that antidepressants increase suicidal behaviour, particularly in younger people. GlaxoSmithKline are being sued for withholding evidence from their own trials that Paroxetine (aka Seroxat)is addictive and increases suidical ideation and behaviour. They have already had to pay out $2.5m.
I went to a psychiatry, 'cause I was very shy and had problems interacting with people. This shyness made me obviously very depressed. The psychiatrist offered me Seroxat (I was 16 then), but I refused. When I got home I made a reasearch and find out that Seroxat cannot be prescribed to non-adult patients.
Eventually, I got out of my depression on my on, without any drugs only little help from friends. Who knows whether I'd be alive today if I had listened to the psychiatrist.
Some medications are absolutely necessary and serve a purpose, but the majority of the medication for depression, ADD, and all the other BS these industries have created to numb and control our children have NO purpose other than profit.
I know who they are, just because they are connected with yet another "religion" I don't believe in does not mean everything they say is false. Well that story is about as valid as Christianity. Where is your fight against this? I label myself "other".
i lost my sister because of greed. and you know who you are out there. anyone who wants to join my cause to save human life please look at my site. thank you.
this problem is global. and it will take many people to solve this problem. we are small but together..we are HUGE! suicide survivor. I was 12. My sister was 25. I found her. :O(
If you honestly feel that you have a case, you may contact me. I can point you in the right direction. Send me a personal message and we can get in touch. I would love to help you.
I find it frightening that so many here are sticking up for the pharmaceutical companies and psychiatric industry. I've also seen a few comments that make fun of and mock this beautiful little girl, who without the help she received from both industries would probably be alive today. This country has turned into a shithole, and the ones who are going to pay the most are our children. Say NO to medicating our kids!
As a psychiatric nurse, I've spent many, many hours with people who suffer with mental complexes. If there are any here that are interested in being impartial, there are dedicated focus groups for those with mental instabilities which you could attend and you will soon discover that these people need help and certainly, depression (as all illnesses) is definitely not something they can flip out of. That is why I feel most of these 'Anti-Psychiatry' videos are ignorant and there claims futile.
It seems you've already got embittered preconceptions about psychiatry, of which you are entitled. The video I have linked to might offer you an alternative perspective:
I feel it is the right of every parent to care for their child. Personally, if my child was autistic and needed support, I would not deprive them of it. - Therefore, I hope my answer is quite clear: I would not deprive my own children of good health or happiness.
I apologise for not knowing the specific diagnosis; this is the first time I've heard of such a case.
[1] Would I give my child medicine for an illness? - Yes, if I thought it would be beneficial.
[2] Would I take my child to a medical professional for 'shyness'? - I would fail to see the benefit.
Psychiatry is a huge, huge area of medical research. I suggest that instead of reading the assertions of anti-medicine polemicist, you should do your own scientific and sociological research[es]!
Reminds me of the Creationists propaganda on youtube trying to discredit the theory of evolution. Arguments from personal incredulity and strawmans a plenty.
The theory of neurophysiology. Your question proves how unwilling you are to investigate (beyond the most superficial and emotionally shaded details) of the thing which you argue against.
There is no doubt that people who take antidepressants are at higher risk of suicide.
But my question is: how can we prove that the antidepressants are what cause the suicide risk and not the mental illness itself? I mean, aren't the people who are usually prescribed antidepressants already at a higher risk of suicide?
It has been all over the news recently that in the clinical trails of the pharamceutical companies the people who were given placebo's were less suicidal then those taking anti-depressants.
But the other thing is that scores of people who weren't heavily depressed, or suicidal at all have commited suicide on anti-depressants.
The 12 year old girl you see in this video is on example.
youtube: Fight For Kids: The Candace Downing Story
It will give you more insigth what happened to her.
Luckily for the scientists, that's not how the disease was empirically discovered. There are empirical demonstrable tangible ways of proving the existence of these various hormonal imbalances using Magnetic Resonance Imaging, Proton Emission Tomography, and Electro Encephaloggrams. All these machines in conjunction with cognition tests have thoroughly proven it's not just inferred by Psychs and Pharmaceutical companies.
What madmen put millions of children on drugs, as usual their wonder-pills pulled from the market ones the marketing spin works off and people begin to see the real effects of their witch-doctor practices? .....its Psychiatrists.
Google: "Long term use of Ritalin ineffective and may stunt childrens growth"
For the official "scientific psycho-babbel" report, Google
"Effects of Stimulant Medication on Growth Rates Across 3 Years in the MTA"
Conclusions: Stimulant-naive school-age children with ADHD were, as a group, larger than expected from norms before treatment but show stimulant-related decreases in growth rates after initiation of treatment. Without Evidence Of Growth Rebound.
In laymans terms, undrugged school childeren with ADHD are larger then childeren that those that take ADHD drugs, after 3 years on the psych meds the kids that took ADHD drugs were 2 cm to 1 inch shorter, Without Evidence Of Growth Rebound.
And I guess that if you put your kid on ritalin for 6 years, he will end up 2 inches shorter that he naturally would have been? 3 years on ritalin, 9 inches shorter?
is this what psychiatrists are trying to tell us?
An ADHD study concluded that while drugs such as Ritalin and Concerta worked in the short term, THERE WAS NO DEMONSTRABLE IMPROVEMENT IN CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOUR AFTER THREE YEARS OF MEDICATION.
Google: "ADHD drugs could stunt growth the daily telegraph"
So if after 3 years on ADHD drugs your kid isn't cured of anything and you end up an inch shorter.
ADHD might just very well be a mutation. So might diabetes, a mutation. And maybe, just
maybe not actual disorders, but mankind caused
disorders. Screw with our biorymths, just
might screw with our hormone and immune system
check n balances too. The cure is called cloning the cell to stop
block the signal that allows it to mutate. Check out their studies concerning the ability to live longer (to 150 or 200 years old)concerning age related
I need help immediately... please sign my petition against the MOTHERS Act (a plan to screen and drug pregnant and postpartum women) go to uniteforlife dot org to get the URL
Shocking video. But it's true. My friend was a musician. When he got down with life, he'd write a song about whatever was eating at him, and then he'd be back to normal. He was never suicidal. Five years ago, a "friend of the family" got him on psychiatric medication to lose weight. Two weeks later, he killed himself. MUCH later the FDA says "oops, we forgot to tell you that these drugs can cause you to kill yourself." I miss him terribly.
1st. I made a typo; the sentence "Also understand that it would make sense" should be "Also understand that it would make NO sense.
It's in the 3rd column below.
Anyways:
I know that sugar has some highly addictive properties. But we don't have school shooters running around with AK46's and shooting up their schoolmates because of this. We do have school shooters running around with AK 46s' because they are on Psych meds.
Have you ever heard of withdrawals? The effects of withdrawals are OFTEN much worse than actively taking a drug.
Please stop being ignorant. Learn the effects of drugs. Drugs are drugs. They ruin lives. They do not help people. They give the apparency of helping or making one better while an individual is ON the drug. But, in actual fact the drug harms the individual physically and mentally. It creates a dependency. Makes the person dependent on the drug to operate "normally".
As soon as you take the person off of the drug, the real effects of the drug show their ugly heads. Do not comment back with you know better. Because you don't. Read facts about drugs. Learn from observation what they actually do to people. Don't take what the authority says as truth. Take the truth as authority.
Over 75% of the school shooters were either on anti-depressants, or stimulants such as Ritalin, or on a mix of them. The percentage is very likely even higher then this, but the files of the younger school shooters are closed and can't be accessed.
Also understand that it would make sense to make psychiatric medications so defective that large amounts of the users would get sick or get crazier because of them.
You really must think a bit smarter and deeper then that. If you put millions of people on these drugs, you need only a smart percent of people who get crazy on them (like these school shooters) then you can convince the government that "all children" need mental health screening. (Which of course will result in more children put on drugs)
I've applied all the definitions of "clinical" to the full statement and the bottom line is that ssri's don't work better then a placebo. Clinically or in the real world, they don't work better then a placebo. That's really all that I can make out of it.
As for the other types of anti depressants ...they all have FDA warnings written all over them, so I would never advise anyone I care about to use them. (But don't react to this comment, because it's a side line)
Of course every medication has side effects. They have to be balanced against the positive effects when evaluating whether to use them. Naturally there are warnings all over them - it's called fair disclosure.
On "discontinuation syndrome" I found the following: "...Within a couple of days of starting this, you begin to exhibit ...VOMITING, chills, dizziness. Agitation, impaired concentration, VIVID DREAMS (NIGTH MARES?) , depersonalisation (HALLUCINATION?), IRRIABILITYand SUICIDALTHOUGHTS are sometimes occurring. These symptoms last anywhere from one to seven weeks and vary in intensity. You wonder what the heck is going on...."
Anything can cause disontinuation syndrome. Take someone from a high sugar diet to a low sugar diet and watch the fireworks. The body hates change, when it gets used to a chemical it goes into a type of shock when it's removed.
Exactly - nothing that special about SSRI's causing discontinuation effects. It's a normal biological response to the drugs, and in most cases it's very mild.
And so you arrive at psychiatric programs like "TEENSCREEN" that had exactly that as its objective: "the mandatory screening of every child in the USA", but not only all the children, also their parents and teachers.
Their stupid plan didn't work in the end. (Obviously they hadn't drugged America up enough yet)
But I really hope that you begin to understand what these madmen and their poisons are really about.
These are all euphemisms for "I feel sick that I want to die, and coming to think about it, maybe I'll even do it" What do you think that somebody who is detoxing from crack addiction is going trough? ...Anyways, I'm not going to go any further into this. Don't react back on it because I don't want to hear it.
3th; it doesn't matter if Joanna Moncrieff is critical of Psychiatry. She is a Psychiatrist as far as I can see, and has applied science to her research.
And what do you think you do with hyped research reports? The hyped research results are a proven fact.
What prove do you have that Joanna Moncrieff's report wasn't scientifically valid? I really would like you to tell me that. Because I have proven to you that big Parma's results were flawed. You have double standard, buddy. Big Parma may lie ...but it seems that, to you, this doesn't make their research invalid.
Psychiatry could really start working on its own image, if it wants to avoid being criticized. A good start would be for the pharmaceuticals to be honest about their own research. (As you could see in the video I asked you to watch.)
Again, they are setting a precedent that can be used against them. If big pharma is allowed to tug away 1/3 of their own negative research. Don't you be surprised then if groups like the Critical Psychiatry Network, or CCHR start to fight them.
If Big Pharma and Global Psychiatry want to rake in billons of dollars a year, as far as I'm concerned, they should do so by all means ....but they should play it by the same rules that all of us have to abide by. That means no deceit, no hyped research results, no voting mental orders into existence, no bogus subjective questionnaires as substitute for real physical science.
And I use physical science because a pill is a physical object that produces a physical effect in the body/brain. So if you want to say something wrong with someone's brain chemicals, you better be able to take the person, ..meaning every person that you want to give your wonder drug to. And Show them, by I don't care what physical means, what is the matter with them.
I'm sure that at this point you'd like to say: "it isn't big Pharma's intention to make to billions that they do, but its their intention to help people." ...Well again, if you want to help people you don't lie.
You don't hide negative studies. I sure we can agree that people or companies that hide their research results don't have peoples bests interest at hart.
And I was a very disappointed in you that you shrugged it away so lightly in your earlier remark to me. Truth 'does' matter ...it always does.
For its an indicator of ones true intentions. That seems like basic psychology to me.
And you know, maybe Joanna Moncrieff's report actually corrected the hyped research results that the pharmaceuticals have put out themselves to begin with. Did you ever consider that as a possible truth?
Telling lies is noting more then tossing a boomerang into the air ....it will always hit you back in the head when you take your eyes off of it.
In closing, on your friends and family on antidepressants:
First of all let me apologize for the mean remark I made regarding your friends and family. I'm sure that they are all great persons and just want feel good about life.
But when I see my sister laugh again, being active again and so on, I know that it is herself who is laughing. I know that it isn't some chemically induced veil of happiness that just masks her pain and doesn't allow her to deal with it. It took her a while but she has found her strength again, don't you see?
So unless we face whatever live throws at us, however we are, and just as who we are ....I'm afraid that our inner-selves will not fully mature. And that does not mean that a small percentage of people will benefit from these drugs. But that is not my sister who gets tested by live as we all have been for centuries.
My sister was prescribed antidepressants because she lost her mother, father and her son who died from cancer at the age of 20, all in one year. When I found out that my sister was taking anti-depressants, I took her off of them, because I know that they are bad news.
The funny thing however, was that the information leaflet of her antidepressants was talking constantly about suicide-risks, and sickness as a possible side effect of these antidepressants.
My conclusion was that these pills were for crazy people, not for people that go through the inevitable problems and disappointments that we will all have to face in life. And I knew that my sister wasn't crazy. She was just extremely sad because she lost her mother, but most importantly her son when he was just 20 years old, in one year.
The other thing that I knew is that she had been sleeping very bad for months on end. And that she was both physically and mentally exhausted. And yes, she had made some remarks about not wanting to live anymore, but I took this as a normal response of a mother losing her son. We are a year further now, and my sister is just doing fine. Without antidepressants, and without having her brain messed with.
And on the good side of life, she will be a grandmother soon.
So in short, it was never proven by any psychiatrist that there was something wrong with the serotonin levels of my sisters brain, yet she was put on these antidepressants.
Psychiatrists are a bunch of unscientific quakers. Yes, I do believe that there is a really small amount of people that will benefit from their drug pushing. But unless they develop some means of giving someone, like my sister, a test that will actually show scientifically what is wrong with 'their brain', they will keep pushing these drugs on to people who don't need them, and who, in reality, are better off without them.
YES, that is true. The medications perform a chemical lobotomy by separating the frontal lobe from the rest of the brain. They also increase serotonin thereby making you go insane.
Serotonin cannot cause mind control. It merely is part of regulating emotions. Sure you could make someone docile or sleepy with it. But you can't go and order someone to go assassinate someone by using Serotonin.
And how will sucide help 'map' the brain... Oh wait it can't.
Boy you are an idiot aren't you... There is more to brain problems than just serotonin... Yes putting too much serotonin in the brain causes mental problems... But too LITTLE serotonin is bad as well. Too little= Depression
If you don't have Depression however.=Too much when you have the medication. Making the person hyper and maniac like until it wears off.
PS: Get out of the freaking 50s they don't do Lobotomies anymore, chemical or physical.
There is an abundance of proof that their "science" is unscientific beyond belief. There is books like: Talking Back to Ritalin; Let Them Eat Prozac; 101 Reasons to Avoid Ritalin Like the Plague, ect, are to be found on amazon.
I guess that anyone who is seriously interested in this matter could go to Amazon and read the reviews and maybe buy one of those books for themselves. So one gets both sides of the picture here. And then make up your own mind. That's what this is all about. Knowledge is power, so get the knowledge the good and the bad, and think for yourself.
Noone commits suicide who wasnt suicidal before the meds. Its just, a kid gets depressed, (MAYBE keeps his suicidal thoughts to themsleves or maybe not) Then they get some meds, for some ppl they work, for some they dont. Child goes ahead and commits suicide because nothings changed(and maybe he was too pressured to get better as thats what ppl expect).
Parents of course dont want to consider the possibilty that its their fault, so they blame the meds.
What you need to know is that anti-depressants arn't suposed to be used by people who are suicidal. My sister was on ssri's (prozac-like drugs) a year ago and I red on the instruction that people with suicidal thoughts should not use these drugs.
My sister said that she didn't feel like going on with her live anymore and that the thougth of about it 1 or 2 times. To me a total normal reaction for a mother that loses her 20 year old child. And as far as I can see we don't have a history of women killing themselfs en mass when they lose their childeren. So why the freaking drugs, that have "risk of suicide" written all over them?
Well I know the pharmaceutical companies are not completely honest, but I have a lot of family members and friends who were helped by antidepressants. I am annoyed by one sided propaganda videos such as this one as they distract from what could be an intelligent debate of the issues by clouding everything with emotion.
I'm happy that your familiy and friends feel "helped" by anti depressants. I don't hope any one of them got addicted to these drugs dough.
An article in the British Journal of Medicine states however that; "...selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors do not have a clinically meaningful advantage over placebo..."
But don't take my word for it, read it for yourself by googeling:
I have split this message into two because youtube has a 500 character limit.
Firstly, I am aware of the article. It is an opinion piece printed in the Education and Debate section of the BMJ.
Secondly, you have shortened the quote. The full quote is "The NICE review data suggest that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors do not have a clinically meaningful advantage over placebo".
Thirdly, there are many classes of antidepresants including SNRIs, MAOIs and tetracyclics. SSRIs are not addictive in the classical sense but can have a discontinuation syndrome if they are not tapered on withdrawal.
Forthly, the author Joanna Moncrieff belongs to the Critical Psychiatry Network. This strikes me as being a source of bias.
Finally, my friends and family did not just "feel" helped. I saw the change with my own eyes.
And it is certainly not the 15 million school children that are currently taking these "medicines".
It's the road to disaster, and you can either help us to prevent it, or stand at the side and see this world turn into the brave new world that Psychiatry is so bend on turning it into. It will not be a happier world, I hope you can see that.
Also I would like to reiterate that Neurological pharmacology is not in any way simple and neither is clinical depression or Severe anxiety. It would be the hight of hubris to think that ones own experience with anxiety or depression, or hearing or reading something online qualifies you to make useful judgments about pharmacology or psychology.
You seem to miss that the meds work just fine. Prior to meds suicidal urges aren't acted upon, the way most urges aren't acted upon when someone is clinically depressed. Once you have given them meds patients are able to be more funcional, and able to act upon impulses and thoughts be they suicidal or not. You often see this in when medication is used w/o proper supervision and talk therapy, often during the initial usage where they, feel good enough to feel bad, and then act on that feeling.
ok i would just like to reiterate the above again youre statement that "Evil and corrupt people are able to help" based on that firm believe you have ,you have no distinguishing qualities between right and wrong and then youre statemend between what is right and what is wrong holds no ground its not even a matter worth discussing , its just garbage , period
what you fail to understand pengwin is this bullshit is for real. It's NOT bogus. I experenced it first hand and I will say I am boggled at the fact that I did not become suicidal after all the medication, and restrainst, and lock ups they put me through. Several kids I went to Treatment with ended up killing themselves, some one else,permanantly institutionalized or overdosing. Don't tell me it's bogus you conceited shit head. My friends are dead because of it. I LOST 5 YEARS OF MY LIFE TO IT.
Look man, if what you say is true, i repect it, and respect your opinion. But i have been in a very similar situation, but closer to the opposite. I lost time, and nearly lost my life, because i had trouble getting any treatment.
Now im on antidepressants, and i get by a lot better. I mean, i wouldnt be posting on the net otherwise.
The problem is, people think you give someone some pills and theyr well. Pills alone change nothing, you need complementary therapy.
the problems is ALSO, "hey my kid wont pay attention in school"
"here,dope him up on this"
wondeful that it worked for you but the average is not in the favor of examples like yourself. If all meds helped everyone like they help you... Why would I be so upset about what happened to me?
Just because you had a bad expirience doesn't mean the drugs don't help other people. Some people honestly need meds like that to function. I lost over 14 years of my life because I WASN'T on meds.
you still don't get it. Just because YOU needed it does not mean EVERYONE does and that is exactly how they diagnose these days.
"Whats that? Your too fat, it's a disease, your too skinny it's a disease, your too happy. it's a disease, your too sad it's a disease, you cant sleep, it's a disease, you can't sit still it's a disease"
I never said that everyone needs it. Most people don't. I'm just saying that its stupid to ignore the fact that the meds DO help some people. All I've heard from CCHR is that psychiatry is just a bunch of shit. They don't tell you about all the people it HAS helped.
What a bogus misleading video this is, what a flock of easily manipulated, vulnerable ppl you are. Im sorry you never developed critical thinking skills and attained scientific education background to support any of your bougs claims. Blaming a group (occuptional, ethnic, political) for everything wrong in this world is no different than what Al Qaeda is doing right now, what Hitler did in the past.
If you are opposed to drugging and diagnosing kids with no verifiable disease please see the Jani Schofield vids. This child is being used to support an agenda of psycho drugging kids with autistic tendencies. Please speak out against these abuses!
beautifulmind546 8 months ago
albertsneijMD 1 year ago
I don't give a damn what the Scientologists or the psychiatrists think. These drugs nearly killed me. Never again.
egl2r 1 year ago
i took lamictal and it got me into manic psychosis, it never went away, the police took me to hospital i didnt knew where i was, now im stuck with more medication, abilify and seroquel wich will give me diabetes soon, those who did this to me i will punish them
lamictalinducedpsych 1 year ago
@lamictalinducedpsych I understand how u feel. I am so sorry. Sue those psychiatrists. Do not give up. ATTACK!.
draziom902 1 year ago
Science created drugs are a way to control the population. Look how many people die per year from these drugs and others. That dont include science/lab created disease either. its all about population control!!! Youtube population control.
hogsonquads 2 years ago
Your right its population control, i dont know what you meant about "youtube" population control. But you're right about the first part.
Draziom203 1 year ago
Child Psychiatry is just as evil as child pornography or prostitution.
Mlhirdyahoocomau 2 years ago 8
Psychiatric drugs are usually prescribed as a "solution" to a problem. But they only mask the problem and never allow the person to look at its real cause. Everyone strongly disagrees with the enforced and harmful methods employed by psychiatrists. Psychiatrists fail to mention the horrendous side effects of their drugs. They often cause irreversible damage to the brain and nervous system. These effects usually require a further drug to contain them.
Draziom203 2 years ago
These Drugs are like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer. They might do the job, but leave one smashed, and lifeless.
judsonnewyork 2 years ago 5
LOL. $cientology front groups... Don't trust these people. They are brainwashed.
PeripheralSenses 2 years ago
What crimes are you hiding from? They are doing much more to save this dying planet then anybody. Anyone who attacks them, is a criminal who wants everyone dead so they can be safe
judsonnewyork 2 years ago
Lame argument. Scientologists are far from the only people exposing and decrying what these diagnoses, these drugs and the psychiatric-pharmaceutical industry have harmed and are harming people.
TheMeanpeoplesuck 2 years ago 3
This commercial is so sad.
BMWGGANTMSFU 2 years ago 6
shocking vid
rafay87 2 years ago 6
the drug effexor ruined mine.
the withdrawls were the worst.
the medications NEED to be taken off of the market. pLUS I almost offed myself.
rafatabb 2 years ago
This is the saddest thing ever. It's brings me so much pain to see that things like this happen.
AJJKW 2 years ago 2
Paxil made me very suicidal and more depressed.
koalastephanie 2 years ago 6
Reported: German Schoolshooter also on antidepressants.
"The teen, underwent several treatment sessions for depression at a psychiatric clinic that year, said investigator Siegfried Mahler. He showed up for five sessions between April and September, and was expected to continue outpatient therapy at a different clinic, but never began it, Mahler said."
Google: "German police suspect chat room posts were faked"
Source: associated press.
Hasstradamus
to read for self
Hasstradamus 2 years ago 2
please go read my story before you judge the drug companies. My story is true.
I will speak for my sister who lost her life at age 25.
go to Virtual Memorials
Lorraine Lori Peanut
type in the password: private
read all pages before you leave a comment.. I am so angered.
3Decadesago 2 years ago
Psychiatry saved my life
AnonSwitch13 2 years ago
The evidence is all around us. The question is: What will YOU do about it? I know what I'm doing about it. I'm talking to as many parents as I can about the dangers of medicating children. My next target is public and private schools in the Phoenix, AZ area. It's time to take responsibility. That's it! No more of this. You can have the balls to step up and do something, or you can be a spectator and do nothing.
So what are you going to do?
TruthUnderFire 3 years ago 3
I want to help your plight. i lost my sister to suicide. she was 25. I know have the proof of why she died. im angry
3Decadesago 3 years ago
Plenty of evidence that antidepressants increase suicidal behaviour, particularly in younger people. GlaxoSmithKline are being sued for withholding evidence from their own trials that Paroxetine (aka Seroxat)is addictive and increases suidical ideation and behaviour. They have already had to pay out $2.5m.
Do your homework.
Sashphoenix 3 years ago 3
I agree. however..families out there who have lost others and friends whom ever...
if they died in decades ago..contact me. we have some things in common.
3Decadesago 3 years ago
I went to a psychiatry, 'cause I was very shy and had problems interacting with people. This shyness made me obviously very depressed. The psychiatrist offered me Seroxat (I was 16 then), but I refused. When I got home I made a reasearch and find out that Seroxat cannot be prescribed to non-adult patients.
Eventually, I got out of my depression on my on, without any drugs only little help from friends. Who knows whether I'd be alive today if I had listened to the psychiatrist.
asmodeus585 2 years ago 16
you SAVED your LIFE. I wish i was YOU and knew the truth before i took these damn drugs.
Draziom203 1 year ago 3
'Caused'? Or "were present in."?
MonsterMailInc 3 years ago
Were present in!!!!!!!????? Since when do 12 year olds commit suicide?
YNation7 2 years ago 3
Quite
marzto 2 years ago
And how many lives have anti-deppresants saved? Pity anti-depressants can't help everybody but we can only but try!
jabulani99 3 years ago
these drugs induce mania. psychosis etc in people who do not need them!
wake up people..before it hits your home!
3Decadesago 3 years ago 4
Some medications are absolutely necessary and serve a purpose, but the majority of the medication for depression, ADD, and all the other BS these industries have created to numb and control our children have NO purpose other than profit.
I know who they are, just because they are connected with yet another "religion" I don't believe in does not mean everything they say is false. Well that story is about as valid as Christianity. Where is your fight against this? I label myself "other".
apocalyptichybrid3 3 years ago
i lost my sister because of greed. and you know who you are out there. anyone who wants to join my cause to save human life please look at my site. thank you.
this problem is global. and it will take many people to solve this problem. we are small but together..we are HUGE! suicide survivor. I was 12. My sister was 25. I found her. :O(
3Decadesago 3 years ago
If you honestly feel that you have a case, you may contact me. I can point you in the right direction. Send me a personal message and we can get in touch. I would love to help you.
Sincerely,
T.U.F.
TruthUnderFire 3 years ago 4
My best wishes to her family.
Lizzy
biglizard45 3 years ago
I find it frightening that so many here are sticking up for the pharmaceutical companies and psychiatric industry. I've also seen a few comments that make fun of and mock this beautiful little girl, who without the help she received from both industries would probably be alive today. This country has turned into a shithole, and the ones who are going to pay the most are our children. Say NO to medicating our kids!
apocalyptichybrid3 3 years ago 6
where is the proof for this?
how do they backup their arguments?
they LIE and LIE and LIE!!!
you have to be totally brainwashed if you belive this bullshit.
Letztermohikaner 3 years ago
You should Know DucheBag
escuelademisterio 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. This antidepressant/Autism bs is going to be the thalidomide of the late 20th-21st century.
uberover 3 years ago
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bigwomblewomble 3 years ago
i loled soo hard!
so suicidal people were given anti depressants and then killed them selves...
hmm suicidal people killing them selves....
WHAT A SHOCKER!!!
DoNotDiscuss 3 years ago
This just in: According to a new medical study, depression hits losers the hardest.
TheAntiV 3 years ago
TheAntiV, you're an idiot.
marzto 2 years ago
i know who is next... your mom.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OT111hater 3 years ago
As a psychiatric nurse, I've spent many, many hours with people who suffer with mental complexes. If there are any here that are interested in being impartial, there are dedicated focus groups for those with mental instabilities which you could attend and you will soon discover that these people need help and certainly, depression (as all illnesses) is definitely not something they can flip out of. That is why I feel most of these 'Anti-Psychiatry' videos are ignorant and there claims futile.
RationalResponsive 3 years ago
Ok,
But I don't see people who are locked up in psych wards in these vids.
I see childeren playing at home with their parents, walking from school with new meds.
And paying a visit to a psychiatrist (I guess) with moms.
What is your take on medicating those children?
Are they mentally ill?
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
They're clearly actors, my friend.
If a child is ill, a parent should do everything in their power to make them better, ... this includes use of medicine from professionals.
RationalResponsive 3 years ago
The girl you see in the vid actually isn't an actor.
youtube: Fight For Kids: The Candace Downing Story
You'll see her mother telling what happened to her and why she was put on psych meds.
There is going to be a movie about her too, I believe.
youtube: Fight For Kids: The Candace Downing Story
Hold on to your thougths, and come back.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago 3
watch?v=zoAvm3MCCyI
RationalResponsive 3 years ago
Come again?
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
It seems you've already got embittered preconceptions about psychiatry, of which you are entitled. The video I have linked to might offer you an alternative perspective:
watch?v=zoAvm3MCCyI
Have a good day. :o)
RationalResponsive 3 years ago
Not really embittered.
I've watched the your vid, nothingnew there. although I'm not sure about the leaked Emails, but lets stay on point here.
Serious question now.
Would you put your kid on psych meds because he or she was a little afraid to speak in front of the class?
Do you really conceive that to be a mental illness and would justify drugging "YOUR OWN" kid?
Give me an honnest reply.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
I feel it is the right of every parent to care for their child. Personally, if my child was autistic and needed support, I would not deprive them of it. - Therefore, I hope my answer is quite clear: I would not deprive my own children of good health or happiness.
RationalResponsive 3 years ago 3
Yes, but now you start talking about autism.
Candice was a bit shy speaking in front of the class and was prescribed zoloft because of that.
Now would you do the same with your child if he or she was shy or froze up when speaking in front of the class. just that, nothing else.
Would you drug him for that. Yes or No.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
I apologise for not knowing the specific diagnosis; this is the first time I've heard of such a case.
[1] Would I give my child medicine for an illness? - Yes, if I thought it would be beneficial.
[2] Would I take my child to a medical professional for 'shyness'? - I would fail to see the benefit.
Psychiatry is a huge, huge area of medical research. I suggest that instead of reading the assertions of anti-medicine polemicist, you should do your own scientific and sociological research[es]!
RationalResponsive 3 years ago 4
I have and tomorrow i'll tel you more about it.
I'm going to bed, it was nice having talked to you.
Hasstradamus
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
You too, it's been very interesting. Take care, :o) x
RationalResponsive 3 years ago
Reminds me of the Creationists propaganda on youtube trying to discredit the theory of evolution. Arguments from personal incredulity and strawmans a plenty.
DeimosSaturn 3 years ago
Ooh, and what "theory " is being discredited here, then?
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
The theory of neurophysiology. Your question proves how unwilling you are to investigate (beyond the most superficial and emotionally shaded details) of the thing which you argue against.
DeimosSaturn 3 years ago
Ok, and why would that be?
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
Allow me to reiterate, THE THEORY OF NEUROPHYSIOLOGY!!!!
DeimosSaturn 3 years ago
There is no doubt that people who take antidepressants are at higher risk of suicide.
But my question is: how can we prove that the antidepressants are what cause the suicide risk and not the mental illness itself? I mean, aren't the people who are usually prescribed antidepressants already at a higher risk of suicide?
masaokishin 3 years ago
It has been all over the news recently that in the clinical trails of the pharamceutical companies the people who were given placebo's were less suicidal then those taking anti-depressants.
But the other thing is that scores of people who weren't heavily depressed, or suicidal at all have commited suicide on anti-depressants.
The 12 year old girl you see in this video is on example.
youtube: Fight For Kids: The Candace Downing Story
It will give you more insigth what happened to her.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago 2
Correlation does not equal causation.
LongCatMcMudkip 3 years ago
Making up mental diseases by voting on them doesn't make science either.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
Luckily for the scientists, that's not how the disease was empirically discovered. There are empirical demonstrable tangible ways of proving the existence of these various hormonal imbalances using Magnetic Resonance Imaging, Proton Emission Tomography, and Electro Encephaloggrams. All these machines in conjunction with cognition tests have thoroughly proven it's not just inferred by Psychs and Pharmaceutical companies.
DeimosSaturn 3 years ago
Of course, there's also that.
anon178 3 years ago 2
The brain is an organ which the mind uses.
Emotions or 'state of minds'can be examined by brain scans but this is not a cure.
Exterior perceptions are usually what makes a person feel negative emotions.
Not a chemical imbalance.
xemutv 3 years ago
Organic disorders exist.That is a fact.
Mental disorders do not exist.
A person is not prone to mental illness because of a chemical imbalance.
All the perceptions that the brain recieves in reality is what makes a person who he is.
You are either sane or insane.
There is no middle lane.
And it is disgusting that we as humankind have to give children DRUGS to calm them.
xemutv 3 years ago
isn't mentality, like, what's going on in your brain? Isn't the brain an organ?
AnonSumy 3 years ago 2
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
xemutv 3 years ago
What madmen put millions of children on drugs, as usual their wonder-pills pulled from the market ones the marketing spin works off and people begin to see the real effects of their witch-doctor practices? .....its Psychiatrists.
Google: "Long term use of Ritalin ineffective and may stunt childrens growth"
For the official "scientific psycho-babbel" report, Google
"Effects of Stimulant Medication on Growth Rates Across 3 Years in the MTA"
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
Conclusions: Stimulant-naive school-age children with ADHD were, as a group, larger than expected from norms before treatment but show stimulant-related decreases in growth rates after initiation of treatment. Without Evidence Of Growth Rebound.
In laymans terms, undrugged school childeren with ADHD are larger then childeren that those that take ADHD drugs, after 3 years on the psych meds the kids that took ADHD drugs were 2 cm to 1 inch shorter, Without Evidence Of Growth Rebound.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
And I guess that if you put your kid on ritalin for 6 years, he will end up 2 inches shorter that he naturally would have been? 3 years on ritalin, 9 inches shorter?
is this what psychiatrists are trying to tell us?
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
The daily telegraph also reported that:
An ADHD study concluded that while drugs such as Ritalin and Concerta worked in the short term, THERE WAS NO DEMONSTRABLE IMPROVEMENT IN CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOUR AFTER THREE YEARS OF MEDICATION.
Google: "ADHD drugs could stunt growth the daily telegraph"
So if after 3 years on ADHD drugs your kid isn't cured of anything and you end up an inch shorter.
Thank psychiatry is using children as lab rats.
Hasstradamus.
I'm out.
Hasstradamus 3 years ago
Wow... Guess what!!! Taking insulin doesn't cure diabetes! Big surprise.
ADHD has no cure, it's not an disease.
Many idiots believe that these things are supposed to 'cure' this.
Then when they go off them because they are 'fixed' surprise, surprise, they feel like crap again.
It's a disorder, there is no cure.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
ADHD might just very well be a mutation. So might diabetes, a mutation. And maybe, just
maybe not actual disorders, but mankind caused
disorders. Screw with our biorymths, just
might screw with our hormone and immune system
check n balances too. The cure is called cloning the cell to stop
block the signal that allows it to mutate. Check out their studies concerning the ability to live longer (to 150 or 200 years old)concerning age related
cell deformations/mutations
dbootsthediva 3 years ago
I need help immediately... please sign my petition against the MOTHERS Act (a plan to screen and drug pregnant and postpartum women) go to uniteforlife dot org to get the URL
This is URGENT!
amyphilo 3 years ago 3
Yes, extrememly urgent. Everyone who reads this, please sign it.
lmfemine 3 years ago
Shocking video. But it's true. My friend was a musician. When he got down with life, he'd write a song about whatever was eating at him, and then he'd be back to normal. He was never suicidal. Five years ago, a "friend of the family" got him on psychiatric medication to lose weight. Two weeks later, he killed himself. MUCH later the FDA says "oops, we forgot to tell you that these drugs can cause you to kill yourself." I miss him terribly.
likepix 4 years ago 3
TO: roguethoughts.
1st. I made a typo; the sentence "Also understand that it would make sense" should be "Also understand that it would make NO sense.
It's in the 3rd column below.
Anyways:
I know that sugar has some highly addictive properties. But we don't have school shooters running around with AK46's and shooting up their schoolmates because of this. We do have school shooters running around with AK 46s' because they are on Psych meds.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Or because they stop taking the Psych meds.
Like with the horrible shooting that happened recently.
Roguethoughts 4 years ago 4
Have you ever heard of withdrawals? The effects of withdrawals are OFTEN much worse than actively taking a drug.
Please stop being ignorant. Learn the effects of drugs. Drugs are drugs. They ruin lives. They do not help people. They give the apparency of helping or making one better while an individual is ON the drug. But, in actual fact the drug harms the individual physically and mentally. It creates a dependency. Makes the person dependent on the drug to operate "normally".
YNation7 3 years ago
As soon as you take the person off of the drug, the real effects of the drug show their ugly heads. Do not comment back with you know better. Because you don't. Read facts about drugs. Learn from observation what they actually do to people. Don't take what the authority says as truth. Take the truth as authority.
YNation7 3 years ago
Read what I said above, I know all about withdrawal syndrome. And I explained it.
PS: Considering I've been on and off medication for years, and seeing how the time when I was 'off' were living hell, I do know different.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
Over 75% of the school shooters were either on anti-depressants, or stimulants such as Ritalin, or on a mix of them. The percentage is very likely even higher then this, but the files of the younger school shooters are closed and can't be accessed.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Also understand that it would make sense to make psychiatric medications so defective that large amounts of the users would get sick or get crazier because of them.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
You really must think a bit smarter and deeper then that. If you put millions of people on these drugs, you need only a smart percent of people who get crazy on them (like these school shooters) then you can convince the government that "all children" need mental health screening. (Which of course will result in more children put on drugs)
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
This is just stupid... she committed suicide BECAUSE she was depressed.
samthehydra 4 years ago
To; KJWIllIAMSON:
I've applied all the definitions of "clinical" to the full statement and the bottom line is that ssri's don't work better then a placebo. Clinically or in the real world, they don't work better then a placebo. That's really all that I can make out of it.
As for the other types of anti depressants ...they all have FDA warnings written all over them, so I would never advise anyone I care about to use them. (But don't react to this comment, because it's a side line)
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Of course every medication has side effects. They have to be balanced against the positive effects when evaluating whether to use them. Naturally there are warnings all over them - it's called fair disclosure.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
Anyway, my point is don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Do some balanced research with a neutral viewpoint and come up with your own ideas.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
On "discontinuation syndrome" I found the following: "...Within a couple of days of starting this, you begin to exhibit ...VOMITING, chills, dizziness. Agitation, impaired concentration, VIVID DREAMS (NIGTH MARES?) , depersonalisation (HALLUCINATION?), IRRIABILITYand SUICIDALTHOUGHTS are sometimes occurring. These symptoms last anywhere from one to seven weeks and vary in intensity. You wonder what the heck is going on...."
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
I've had discontinuation syndrome before when I came off Paxil. It's not that bad.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
Anything can cause disontinuation syndrome. Take someone from a high sugar diet to a low sugar diet and watch the fireworks. The body hates change, when it gets used to a chemical it goes into a type of shock when it's removed.
Roguethoughts 4 years ago
Exactly - nothing that special about SSRI's causing discontinuation effects. It's a normal biological response to the drugs, and in most cases it's very mild.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
And so you arrive at psychiatric programs like "TEENSCREEN" that had exactly that as its objective: "the mandatory screening of every child in the USA", but not only all the children, also their parents and teachers.
Their stupid plan didn't work in the end. (Obviously they hadn't drugged America up enough yet)
But I really hope that you begin to understand what these madmen and their poisons are really about.
youtube it "teenscreen"
Hasstradamus.
Spitting truth
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
KJWIALSON:
Are you kidding me?
These are all euphemisms for "I feel sick that I want to die, and coming to think about it, maybe I'll even do it" What do you think that somebody who is detoxing from crack addiction is going trough? ...Anyways, I'm not going to go any further into this. Don't react back on it because I don't want to hear it.
3th; it doesn't matter if Joanna Moncrieff is critical of Psychiatry. She is a Psychiatrist as far as I can see, and has applied science to her research.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Science or the appearance of science, just like statistics, can be used to prove anything.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
And what do you think you do with hyped research reports? The hyped research results are a proven fact.
What prove do you have that Joanna Moncrieff's report wasn't scientifically valid? I really would like you to tell me that. Because I have proven to you that big Parma's results were flawed. You have double standard, buddy. Big Parma may lie ...but it seems that, to you, this doesn't make their research invalid.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
And Joanna Moncrieff's report has no scientific relevance to you, even dough you can't prove that is was conducted wrongly.
I think it's hilarious.
Hasstradamus
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Psychiatry could really start working on its own image, if it wants to avoid being criticized. A good start would be for the pharmaceuticals to be honest about their own research. (As you could see in the video I asked you to watch.)
Again, they are setting a precedent that can be used against them. If big pharma is allowed to tug away 1/3 of their own negative research. Don't you be surprised then if groups like the Critical Psychiatry Network, or CCHR start to fight them.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
If Big Pharma and Global Psychiatry want to rake in billons of dollars a year, as far as I'm concerned, they should do so by all means ....but they should play it by the same rules that all of us have to abide by. That means no deceit, no hyped research results, no voting mental orders into existence, no bogus subjective questionnaires as substitute for real physical science.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
And I use physical science because a pill is a physical object that produces a physical effect in the body/brain. So if you want to say something wrong with someone's brain chemicals, you better be able to take the person, ..meaning every person that you want to give your wonder drug to. And Show them, by I don't care what physical means, what is the matter with them.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Lets rip someone's skull off and say, "Look here, this isn't making enough chemicals."
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
I'm sure that at this point you'd like to say: "it isn't big Pharma's intention to make to billions that they do, but its their intention to help people." ...Well again, if you want to help people you don't lie.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
You don't hide negative studies. I sure we can agree that people or companies that hide their research results don't have peoples bests interest at hart.
And I was a very disappointed in you that you shrugged it away so lightly in your earlier remark to me. Truth 'does' matter ...it always does.
For its an indicator of ones true intentions. That seems like basic psychology to me.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
And you know, maybe Joanna Moncrieff's report actually corrected the hyped research results that the pharmaceuticals have put out themselves to begin with. Did you ever consider that as a possible truth?
Telling lies is noting more then tossing a boomerang into the air ....it will always hit you back in the head when you take your eyes off of it.
(Sounds like basic philosophy to me.)
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
In closing, on your friends and family on antidepressants:
First of all let me apologize for the mean remark I made regarding your friends and family. I'm sure that they are all great persons and just want feel good about life.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
But when I see my sister laugh again, being active again and so on, I know that it is herself who is laughing. I know that it isn't some chemically induced veil of happiness that just masks her pain and doesn't allow her to deal with it. It took her a while but she has found her strength again, don't you see?
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
So unless we face whatever live throws at us, however we are, and just as who we are ....I'm afraid that our inner-selves will not fully mature. And that does not mean that a small percentage of people will benefit from these drugs. But that is not my sister who gets tested by live as we all have been for centuries.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
My sister was prescribed antidepressants because she lost her mother, father and her son who died from cancer at the age of 20, all in one year. When I found out that my sister was taking anti-depressants, I took her off of them, because I know that they are bad news.
The funny thing however, was that the information leaflet of her antidepressants was talking constantly about suicide-risks, and sickness as a possible side effect of these antidepressants.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Now THAT is a different form of depression...
That's not a 'life long'. So yes a year later she would have been a little better.
Roguethoughts 4 years ago
My conclusion was that these pills were for crazy people, not for people that go through the inevitable problems and disappointments that we will all have to face in life. And I knew that my sister wasn't crazy. She was just extremely sad because she lost her mother, but most importantly her son when he was just 20 years old, in one year.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
The other thing that I knew is that she had been sleeping very bad for months on end. And that she was both physically and mentally exhausted. And yes, she had made some remarks about not wanting to live anymore, but I took this as a normal response of a mother losing her son. We are a year further now, and my sister is just doing fine. Without antidepressants, and without having her brain messed with.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
And on the good side of life, she will be a grandmother soon.
So in short, it was never proven by any psychiatrist that there was something wrong with the serotonin levels of my sisters brain, yet she was put on these antidepressants.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Psychiatrists are a bunch of unscientific quakers. Yes, I do believe that there is a really small amount of people that will benefit from their drug pushing. But unless they develop some means of giving someone, like my sister, a test that will actually show scientifically what is wrong with 'their brain', they will keep pushing these drugs on to people who don't need them, and who, in reality, are better off without them.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Also remember that the definition of psychiatry is: "the healing off the soul" (psych = soul, and --iatry = healing).
And my question is: where is the soul or the spirit to be found in all of these antidepressants? It's fake, that's what I call it.
And they should stop drugging out children with their fake science and smooth talk.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Soul, the closest location of the 'soul' is the frontal lobe.
damage and problems with the Frontal Lobe are what cause these problems.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
YES, that is true. The medications perform a chemical lobotomy by separating the frontal lobe from the rest of the brain. They also increase serotonin thereby making you go insane.
amyphilo 3 years ago
Are you aware they have the ability to switch on and off parts of our brains using
certain subtle forms of light of yellow red
or blue? See Ed Boyden, Engineering the Brain.
Serotonin might actually be something the
algae protein latches onto. This is a world of mind control. Knowing
who follows your orders is one of their tests. Making those among us commit suicide is
part of their evil, n it leads them to know the answers they need in unmapping of our brains
neural circuits
dbootsthediva 3 years ago
Serotonin cannot cause mind control. It merely is part of regulating emotions. Sure you could make someone docile or sleepy with it. But you can't go and order someone to go assassinate someone by using Serotonin.
And how will sucide help 'map' the brain... Oh wait it can't.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
Rogue And how will sucide help 'map' the brain... Oh wait it can't.
Now why play word games in trying to pretend
that I was speaking about suicide maps the
brains. It could be a reaction to their abiity to
turn on and off the brain using colors of
light like red,blue n yellow. See Ed Boyden,
Engineering the Brain They have deciphered our brains electrical
impulses of chattering. If someone follows thru with a suicidal thought, just maybe someone knows they affected that thought
dbootsthediva 3 years ago
Boy you are an idiot aren't you... There is more to brain problems than just serotonin... Yes putting too much serotonin in the brain causes mental problems... But too LITTLE serotonin is bad as well. Too little= Depression
If you don't have Depression however.=Too much when you have the medication. Making the person hyper and maniac like until it wears off.
PS: Get out of the freaking 50s they don't do Lobotomies anymore, chemical or physical.
All that does is turn off emotions completely.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
obviously you don't care about facts, so there is no point to anyone reading or responding to anything you say.
amyphilo 3 years ago
I could say the same about you.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
No because I actually have the FDA warnings on my website which show the doubled rate of suicide, all you have is your ignorance. Have a nice life.
amyphilo 3 years ago
I stopped reading your site when you said disorders do not exist.
Guess what there IS evidence.
Check brain scan comparisons.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
Brain scans are basically spikes in energy
of electrical impulses. We only know what they tell us those brain
scans are suppose to mean. Just maybe how
they color coordinated it, maybe some of the
other colors correspond to other dysfunctions
or mutations of a neural circuitry.
dbootsthediva 3 years ago
Yet I bet I can provide facts while you have nothing.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
There is an abundance of proof that their "science" is unscientific beyond belief. There is books like: Talking Back to Ritalin; Let Them Eat Prozac; 101 Reasons to Avoid Ritalin Like the Plague, ect, are to be found on amazon.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
I guess that anyone who is seriously interested in this matter could go to Amazon and read the reviews and maybe buy one of those books for themselves. So one gets both sides of the picture here. And then make up your own mind. That's what this is all about. Knowledge is power, so get the knowledge the good and the bad, and think for yourself.
Hasstradamus.
I'm out.
Hasstradamus.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
why do you think those people took anti-depressants in the first place idiots. Perhaps, just perhaps because they were suicidal at the start?
And sure you can pick a 12yr old example but there are enough kids who killed themselves without these medicine.
kegher 4 years ago
Charles Manson = Serial Killer
Ted Bundy = Serial Killer
Ed Gein = Serial Killer
etc...
They killed many people without use of drugs.
PhreakStep 4 years ago 2
Noone commits suicide who wasnt suicidal before the meds. Its just, a kid gets depressed, (MAYBE keeps his suicidal thoughts to themsleves or maybe not) Then they get some meds, for some ppl they work, for some they dont. Child goes ahead and commits suicide because nothings changed(and maybe he was too pressured to get better as thats what ppl expect).
Parents of course dont want to consider the possibilty that its their fault, so they blame the meds.
Its really simple.
buprenorphed24 4 years ago
to: buprenorphed24
What you need to know is that anti-depressants arn't suposed to be used by people who are suicidal. My sister was on ssri's (prozac-like drugs) a year ago and I red on the instruction that people with suicidal thoughts should not use these drugs.
...SO WHY DO THEY GET THEM ANYWAY?
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Did she tell anyone she was sucidal? Many don't admit that.
Roguethoughts 4 years ago
My sister said that she didn't feel like going on with her live anymore and that the thougth of about it 1 or 2 times. To me a total normal reaction for a mother that loses her 20 year old child. And as far as I can see we don't have a history of women killing themselfs en mass when they lose their childeren. So why the freaking drugs, that have "risk of suicide" written all over them?
Hasstradamus 4 years ago 2
Maybe go to medical school for 6 years, study more to specialise in psychiatry then you can tell us huh?
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
Didn't you know?
They got intervieuwed a tthe 2006 APA (American Psychiatric Association) convention.
Psychiatrists said that they don't have any diagnosis or any cures for mental disorders.
Youtube; Psychiatry: No Science, No Cures
Its not a point of going to medical school or not, Psychiatry can't scientifically proof, nor cure none of their mental disorders.
Youtube; Psychiatry: No Science, No Cures
Youtube: "Psychiatry: No Science, No Cures"
And see for yourself
Hasstradamus 4 years ago 3
Of course you can't cure a Psychological condition, it's like being diabetic, you have it and you have to cope with it.
Cases of short term depression, can be noticed however.
Usually by the lowering of certain chemicals in the body.
Roguethoughts 3 years ago
ROFL
ohlawds 4 years ago
Mmm. Delicious loli...
Anonypoke 4 years ago
It's all coming to a head
No help from a single Fed
To you the doctrines make sense
The rest of the world will weigh in on the tenth
AnonFawkes 4 years ago 6
How about making a video that shows how many people's lives have been saved by antidepressants, for balance...
kjwilliamson 4 years ago 9
You're not getting the Point.
Big Pharma knows that these drugs are bad, they cover up the negative studies so they can push these drugs onto the market anyway.
Kopy and paste the following text in your youtube search-bar:
Fox News Big Story with Doug Kennedy on Big Pharma's Lie
If they would be honnest about their products, these anti-depressants should't even be on the market to begin with.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Well I know the pharmaceutical companies are not completely honest, but I have a lot of family members and friends who were helped by antidepressants. I am annoyed by one sided propaganda videos such as this one as they distract from what could be an intelligent debate of the issues by clouding everything with emotion.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
I'm happy that your familiy and friends feel "helped" by anti depressants. I don't hope any one of them got addicted to these drugs dough.
An article in the British Journal of Medicine states however that; "...selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors do not have a clinically meaningful advantage over placebo..."
But don't take my word for it, read it for yourself by googeling:
"Efficacy of antidepressants in adults"
I'm out.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
I have split this message into two because youtube has a 500 character limit.
Firstly, I am aware of the article. It is an opinion piece printed in the Education and Debate section of the BMJ.
Secondly, you have shortened the quote. The full quote is "The NICE review data suggest that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors do not have a clinically meaningful advantage over placebo".
kjwilliamson 4 years ago 3
Thirdly, there are many classes of antidepresants including SNRIs, MAOIs and tetracyclics. SSRIs are not addictive in the classical sense but can have a discontinuation syndrome if they are not tapered on withdrawal.
Forthly, the author Joanna Moncrieff belongs to the Critical Psychiatry Network. This strikes me as being a source of bias.
Finally, my friends and family did not just "feel" helped. I saw the change with my own eyes.
kjwilliamson 4 years ago
And it is certainly not the 15 million school children that are currently taking these "medicines".
It's the road to disaster, and you can either help us to prevent it, or stand at the side and see this world turn into the brave new world that Psychiatry is so bend on turning it into. It will not be a happier world, I hope you can see that.
Hasstradamus.
I'm out.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
I reacted to your responce.
Check the most recent comment added by me.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
I've posted a longer remark on this vid and want to invide you to read it.
Hasstradamus.
Hasstradamus 4 years ago
Also I would like to reiterate that Neurological pharmacology is not in any way simple and neither is clinical depression or Severe anxiety. It would be the hight of hubris to think that ones own experience with anxiety or depression, or hearing or reading something online qualifies you to make useful judgments about pharmacology or psychology.
Quantumqat 4 years ago 4
You seem to miss that the meds work just fine. Prior to meds suicidal urges aren't acted upon, the way most urges aren't acted upon when someone is clinically depressed. Once you have given them meds patients are able to be more funcional, and able to act upon impulses and thoughts be they suicidal or not. You often see this in when medication is used w/o proper supervision and talk therapy, often during the initial usage where they, feel good enough to feel bad, and then act on that feeling.
Quantumqat 4 years ago 3
Actually the antidepressants don't kill people, the fact that it didn't work, means the people are still depressed and therefore, kill themselves.
Deathstrikepk 4 years ago 4
ok i would just like to reiterate the above again youre statement that "Evil and corrupt people are able to help" based on that firm believe you have ,you have no distinguishing qualities between right and wrong and then youre statemend between what is right and what is wrong holds no ground its not even a matter worth discussing , its just garbage , period
robyonder 4 years ago
so people who are corrupt and evil , help . . . . " Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding "
NEEEXT !
robyonder 4 years ago
Thank you for your videos. It's great to have them here on Youtube.
Greenfir 4 years ago
pengwinfr you are wrong, so so wrong
ccfc500 4 years ago
what you fail to understand pengwin is this bullshit is for real. It's NOT bogus. I experenced it first hand and I will say I am boggled at the fact that I did not become suicidal after all the medication, and restrainst, and lock ups they put me through. Several kids I went to Treatment with ended up killing themselves, some one else,permanantly institutionalized or overdosing. Don't tell me it's bogus you conceited shit head. My friends are dead because of it. I LOST 5 YEARS OF MY LIFE TO IT.
DieYuppieSkum 4 years ago
stfu quit making shit up you attention whore.
patugi 4 years ago
Look man, if what you say is true, i repect it, and respect your opinion. But i have been in a very similar situation, but closer to the opposite. I lost time, and nearly lost my life, because i had trouble getting any treatment.
Now im on antidepressants, and i get by a lot better. I mean, i wouldnt be posting on the net otherwise.
The problem is, people think you give someone some pills and theyr well. Pills alone change nothing, you need complementary therapy.
buprenorphed24 4 years ago 4
the problems is ALSO, "hey my kid wont pay attention in school"
"here,dope him up on this"
wondeful that it worked for you but the average is not in the favor of examples like yourself. If all meds helped everyone like they help you... Why would I be so upset about what happened to me?
DieYuppieSkum 4 years ago
Just because you had a bad expirience doesn't mean the drugs don't help other people. Some people honestly need meds like that to function. I lost over 14 years of my life because I WASN'T on meds.
anon178 4 years ago 2
you still don't get it. Just because YOU needed it does not mean EVERYONE does and that is exactly how they diagnose these days.
"Whats that? Your too fat, it's a disease, your too skinny it's a disease, your too happy. it's a disease, your too sad it's a disease, you cant sleep, it's a disease, you can't sit still it's a disease"
DieYuppieSkum 4 years ago
I never said that everyone needs it. Most people don't. I'm just saying that its stupid to ignore the fact that the meds DO help some people. All I've heard from CCHR is that psychiatry is just a bunch of shit. They don't tell you about all the people it HAS helped.
anon178 4 years ago 3
Uh no it isn't.
Roguethoughts 4 years ago
And I went through it with Zero, count them Zero such effects.
You can't blame the tool, a drug can't make you do anything, ultimately you decide.
Roguethoughts 4 years ago
What a bogus misleading video this is, what a flock of easily manipulated, vulnerable ppl you are. Im sorry you never developed critical thinking skills and attained scientific education background to support any of your bougs claims. Blaming a group (occuptional, ethnic, political) for everything wrong in this world is no different than what Al Qaeda is doing right now, what Hitler did in the past.
pengwinfr 4 years ago 7