When i was 6, I was speaking three languages and learning my fourth. American... Im from america. Korean... my grandparents are full korean, Spanish... my moms part columbian. I just had to learn. Its hard going from korean to english cause of the sentence structure.
We've started a TEFL social network where we are trying to build a community of TEFL teachers around the world to meet and share experiences and tips. If anyone is interested take a look at tefl-me.com. It covers lots of areas and has a blog, forum groups individual profiles and a map to indicate your location in the world to help you meet other TEFL teacher when you are on the other side of the world. We have a group relating to Korea including discussions about first timers in korea & culture.
Korean Hogwans are dangerous. The education system is floundering and these after private "schools" are nothing more than baby sitting. Everyone needs to step back and reevaluate the situation. Don't buy into a corrupt system. You'll only prolong the problem.
@brainsmoothy well I don't agree to the system either but making one person stop teaching isn't going to do it. Instead of commenting on people like this, go to the government website and comment there. Unless the whole system is rooted and changed completely by the government, nothing's going to change much
@tokee1234567 you're misreading what i mean. what i mean is people viewing should bot be encouraged to teach there, people teaching here should quit in protest of the vicious cycles of child abuse, both physical and emotional that take place in Korea public and private school. Hence: don't go or go home in protest. And I have constantly gone to the Korean board of Ed. for four years. They don't want to hear anything negative.
@brainsmoothy okay I get it now. it's more complicated though. the actual violence and the strict regulation of the schools were from when korea was colonized by the japanese and the japanese implemented that system (the hair length regulations and the tough disciplines) and even now, it's a bit more lax but still not that good enough. to be frank it will take generations for koreans to fix their current education system... and people don't want to deal with it too much
@tokee1234567 That's the revisionist, nationalist sentiment that is juxtaposed to the Korean Education Board Leader letter to the world, calling for education reform. Go to ERIC database to find the writings. FYI, in the 1960's, the Japanese had a massive education overhaul as well under the guidance of a group of board members from the U.S.
@brainsmoothy but the reality is, japan still has restrictions far more stricter than other western countries, and they have cram schools just like korea has their hakwon, even if it's not that serious. I don't get where you're getting at but practically education in korea is similar to that of Chinese and the Japanese. (b/c of the well off economy japan was able to make it less stricter and harsh on the kids)
@tokee1234567 Nothing can excuse child abuse, in any nation. Which is the main idea. Do you agree with circumcision of girls, simply because it's part of a culture that's not yours? Would you agree to hit a child in a school if a religion curriculum deemed it obligatory? Having never been to China (unless you count Taiwan, a free country, where children are not beaten in public) nor having taught in Japan, the above comments can only be applied to the abuse in schools of Korea.
@brainsmoothy you're talking about "hitting." yea that's also a controversial topic. I personally think that schools should ban any physical hitting of the teachers, but of course with that they might as well get rid of all the strict disciplines like hair length and sock colours. normally in families I don't mind "hitting" unless it's abusive, but yea schools should definitely stop that.
@brainsmoothy and the education problem actually has many cultural and historical roots. Like I mentioned with the colonization, and the fact that korea's gotten this well off economically means they depended on forcing competition onto children and trying so hard to find talented people. Even now since korea doesn't have much natural resources, they depend on the intellectuals for business or technology to make their country stand out and survive...
@brainsmoothy sorry for the long post, but it's only been 70 years since korea's been independent from japan's imperialistic regime, and 60 years since the korean war happened (where korea was as poor as some African countries) and the current economy and the situation with the north korea's not helping with the adult's thoughts either. they need to sort out their own political, cultural problems before tackling the education problem. hopefully you can understand what I am saying...
@tokee1234567 i understand what you're saying. After all, I've been researching and writing about it for the last four years. The adults you speak of were educated in the same school system. very little has changed and it's cyclical. North Korea doesn't weigh on South Korea's educational policies. But North Korea is problematic in conversation. While N. Koreans are believed to be of the "same race," they're poor and therefore of a lower class. Also, the Korean war isn't talked about a lot
@brainsmoothy ...hence, drawing a simple conclusion isn't possible. What is interesting, is the cultural emphasis on studying abroad in Korea. An ancient value, from a time when Chinese was the language of elite scholars, parents still wish their child to study abroad. Yet, they are to remain culturally Korean, and expected to conform to the standards set by Neo-Confucianism. This value has always been interesting.
@brainsmoothy btw, South Korea just made a new law saying that hitting in schools is forbidden. they've only set that in Seoul (capital city) to see how it goes.. and so far it has been really bad. Kids rather wish they were hit instead of being given suspension or deduction in their grades.. unless the whole society undergoes a change (making better disciplinary standards and new ways of punishing kids without impacting their chance to go to college) this can end up really bad
@tokee1234567 I know about the law and there is nothing bad about societal reform. that grades are the only measurement for college admittance is an absurd notion, dictated by corporate entities. nothing bad can come of the law. the fact remains that classrooms have too many students. this problem isn't particular to South Korea. The teachers will probably ignore the law as much as possible until a better system is established. Gangsamnam-do's government will resist any policy from Seoul..
oh wow that's really cute. If my teenager wasn't so involved with his career here in the US, I would definitely do that. I LOVE Kids, I love the Korean language, and I have a Korean friend who teaches there. You must be very proud. :)
@JapanMonkeyHunter What kind of name is "JapanMonkeyHunter?" Telling people what to think and not to think....you should think about finding a name that isn't racist or nationalist. Post-nationalism is the only way the world will find peace.
It's said that it is $28,000 USD but cost of living and taxes is so low 4.3% (here in the US it's 21%) and some job offers pay for your flight and rent. Most people end up saving more than half of the money with out even trying, so I'd say it's pretty decent. ;)
@kireiichi Oh I don't know about the pay. He just said it was the reason why he didn't take the job. Shrug. I'm pretty sure he has at least a bachelor's.
When i was 6, I was speaking three languages and learning my fourth. American... Im from america. Korean... my grandparents are full korean, Spanish... my moms part columbian. I just had to learn. Its hard going from korean to english cause of the sentence structure.
EmoGirlLovsU 7 months ago
@asiadreamin thank you. =)
kireiichi 1 year ago
We've started a TEFL social network where we are trying to build a community of TEFL teachers around the world to meet and share experiences and tips. If anyone is interested take a look at tefl-me.com. It covers lots of areas and has a blog, forum groups individual profiles and a map to indicate your location in the world to help you meet other TEFL teacher when you are on the other side of the world. We have a group relating to Korea including discussions about first timers in korea & culture.
maym86 1 year ago
@asiadreamin I noticed that it's next to the montreal province, am I able to get by speaking english or should I learn some french first?
kireiichi 1 year ago
@asiadreamin what part of Canada is it? I want to visit there also. ^^
kireiichi 1 year ago
Little frogs
Nonghyupful 1 year ago
omfg that teacher is a asshole, wheres your pencil, idk, WHERE IS IT!
MegaHello12345 1 year ago
Korean Hogwans are dangerous. The education system is floundering and these after private "schools" are nothing more than baby sitting. Everyone needs to step back and reevaluate the situation. Don't buy into a corrupt system. You'll only prolong the problem.
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy well I don't agree to the system either but making one person stop teaching isn't going to do it. Instead of commenting on people like this, go to the government website and comment there. Unless the whole system is rooted and changed completely by the government, nothing's going to change much
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@tokee1234567 you're misreading what i mean. what i mean is people viewing should bot be encouraged to teach there, people teaching here should quit in protest of the vicious cycles of child abuse, both physical and emotional that take place in Korea public and private school. Hence: don't go or go home in protest. And I have constantly gone to the Korean board of Ed. for four years. They don't want to hear anything negative.
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy okay I get it now. it's more complicated though. the actual violence and the strict regulation of the schools were from when korea was colonized by the japanese and the japanese implemented that system (the hair length regulations and the tough disciplines) and even now, it's a bit more lax but still not that good enough. to be frank it will take generations for koreans to fix their current education system... and people don't want to deal with it too much
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@tokee1234567 That's the revisionist, nationalist sentiment that is juxtaposed to the Korean Education Board Leader letter to the world, calling for education reform. Go to ERIC database to find the writings. FYI, in the 1960's, the Japanese had a massive education overhaul as well under the guidance of a group of board members from the U.S.
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy but the reality is, japan still has restrictions far more stricter than other western countries, and they have cram schools just like korea has their hakwon, even if it's not that serious. I don't get where you're getting at but practically education in korea is similar to that of Chinese and the Japanese. (b/c of the well off economy japan was able to make it less stricter and harsh on the kids)
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@tokee1234567 Nothing can excuse child abuse, in any nation. Which is the main idea. Do you agree with circumcision of girls, simply because it's part of a culture that's not yours? Would you agree to hit a child in a school if a religion curriculum deemed it obligatory? Having never been to China (unless you count Taiwan, a free country, where children are not beaten in public) nor having taught in Japan, the above comments can only be applied to the abuse in schools of Korea.
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy you're talking about "hitting." yea that's also a controversial topic. I personally think that schools should ban any physical hitting of the teachers, but of course with that they might as well get rid of all the strict disciplines like hair length and sock colours. normally in families I don't mind "hitting" unless it's abusive, but yea schools should definitely stop that.
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy and the education problem actually has many cultural and historical roots. Like I mentioned with the colonization, and the fact that korea's gotten this well off economically means they depended on forcing competition onto children and trying so hard to find talented people. Even now since korea doesn't have much natural resources, they depend on the intellectuals for business or technology to make their country stand out and survive...
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy sorry for the long post, but it's only been 70 years since korea's been independent from japan's imperialistic regime, and 60 years since the korean war happened (where korea was as poor as some African countries) and the current economy and the situation with the north korea's not helping with the adult's thoughts either. they need to sort out their own political, cultural problems before tackling the education problem. hopefully you can understand what I am saying...
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@tokee1234567 i understand what you're saying. After all, I've been researching and writing about it for the last four years. The adults you speak of were educated in the same school system. very little has changed and it's cyclical. North Korea doesn't weigh on South Korea's educational policies. But North Korea is problematic in conversation. While N. Koreans are believed to be of the "same race," they're poor and therefore of a lower class. Also, the Korean war isn't talked about a lot
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy ...hence, drawing a simple conclusion isn't possible. What is interesting, is the cultural emphasis on studying abroad in Korea. An ancient value, from a time when Chinese was the language of elite scholars, parents still wish their child to study abroad. Yet, they are to remain culturally Korean, and expected to conform to the standards set by Neo-Confucianism. This value has always been interesting.
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
@brainsmoothy btw, South Korea just made a new law saying that hitting in schools is forbidden. they've only set that in Seoul (capital city) to see how it goes.. and so far it has been really bad. Kids rather wish they were hit instead of being given suspension or deduction in their grades.. unless the whole society undergoes a change (making better disciplinary standards and new ways of punishing kids without impacting their chance to go to college) this can end up really bad
tokee1234567 1 year ago
@tokee1234567 I know about the law and there is nothing bad about societal reform. that grades are the only measurement for college admittance is an absurd notion, dictated by corporate entities. nothing bad can come of the law. the fact remains that classrooms have too many students. this problem isn't particular to South Korea. The teachers will probably ignore the law as much as possible until a better system is established. Gangsamnam-do's government will resist any policy from Seoul..
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
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...and history will repeat itself again and again...
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
oh wow that's really cute. If my teenager wasn't so involved with his career here in the US, I would definitely do that. I LOVE Kids, I love the Korean language, and I have a Korean friend who teaches there. You must be very proud. :)
kerryoke68 2 years ago
I think the education system in Korea is crazy
phantomwaltz 3 years ago
oh...no..
dont think like thet..
thet's only like kinder..
JapanMonkeyHunter 2 years ago
@JapanMonkeyHunter What kind of name is "JapanMonkeyHunter?" Telling people what to think and not to think....you should think about finding a name that isn't racist or nationalist. Post-nationalism is the only way the world will find peace.
brainsmoothy 1 year ago
Just wondering if basic knowledge of korean is required to teach english there?
Terrapinfan2007 3 years ago
no, you don't have to know a lick of Korean and can still work there as an English teacher.
kireiichi 3 years ago
how much mula do you get
creten69 2 years ago
It's said that it is $28,000 USD but cost of living and taxes is so low 4.3% (here in the US it's 21%) and some job offers pay for your flight and rent. Most people end up saving more than half of the money with out even trying, so I'd say it's pretty decent. ;)
kireiichi 2 years ago 4
@kireiichi I have a friend who was offered a teaching job (English) to Korea but he denied it because of money issues. Shrug.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@LittlePinky82
How little were they paying him? I'm curious
and does he have a bachelor's degree or
higher?
kireiichi 1 year ago
@kireiichi Oh I don't know about the pay. He just said it was the reason why he didn't take the job. Shrug. I'm pretty sure he has at least a bachelor's.
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@LittlePinky82 well for me even if the pay
is kinda low, I would still take it just for the
experience. ^^ Sorry to here that they offered
so low though. O.O
kireiichi 1 year ago
in order to teach in korea will a tefl certificate and a high school diploma be enough to teach in korea?
VandalBuilt 2 years ago
Can tell that Carl is a real pain in the ass!!!....LOL
nesianrugger 3 years ago
They seem to be speaking English pretty well so I would say he's doing a good job. That little boy is so cute... was his name Carlos??? Thats cool.
camera155 4 years ago
these kids need more interaction - so yep sound like a good idea to get up and draw :)
metcalfejoanna 4 years ago
This guy should get up and draw some funny characters on the board. I konw it works for me teaching ESL in Daegu, South Korea.
deebeethree 4 years ago
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in order to teach in korea will a tefl certificate and a high school diploma be enough to teach in korea?
VandalBuilt 2 years ago