I love how he refers back to HipHop - and I'm talking the culture the beliefs not just the rap music that is out. I think that is the biggest difference - a lot of new schoolers have lost the desire to learn about ALL of the history and the culture. Which is such a shame, it's SO interesting, there's SO much to learn. It's in the vids and the books that are out, take advantage of this age where info is everywhere, people!
marlon has crack head teeth and he cant dance at all, no flow and originality. he lost to menno easy and he talks about who can copy the best, his whole style is REMIND! learn how to dance nigga. truth.
I met Marlon and learned from him, danced with him on stage and cypher and even had a small uprock session with him. All I can say, is quit hating on someone who is true to the art since 15 years and from all I know he ain't talking about the bboys u all love to dickride, i.e. Hong 10, Physicx (why would he, both dance with Floor Gangz, and they share moves and other stuff), Ronnie etc..these guyz have STYLE they are different and they have inspired ppl with their "STYLE" not "COMPETITION WINS".
Big respect from Russia, man. All the things you said in this video were just like in my mind for a really long time, and now you said it and, like, a lot of breakboys around the world heard your words and agreed with them, so now I know that there are people in the world that do think like I do, that's kind of an inspiration for me. Big thanks and respect to Marlon, big thanks and respect to B-boy Magazine for this amazing interview, big respect to everyone who agrees with Marlon.
RISPECT MAN! I agree!! (b-boy Dry from Italy) COM HERE TO DO WORKSHOPS MAN!!!!!!! I like the way u dance and the way u think! REAL B-BOY!!!!!! RISPECT!!!!
about biting! every move started from one foundation! it just depends how you create a move your own to a point where you can say, i made this move, yeah i started studying another move but i made it mine by putting my flavor into it. examples, 2000, everyone does it right? so what did Physicx do? Rivers 2000! everyone airchairs but look how lilou made it his own! hong 10 freeze! Morris elbow spin compared to physicx elbow spin! I doubt everyone watching this is tryna bite on purpose right?
@BboyZoinks I agree with you my man, moves are just moves. It is NOT ok to bite sets and take other peoples style, but to take moves and make it ur own is forsure ok. Like how physicx took the 2000 and made rivers 2000. I undrstand where ur comin from bro, i try to explain this shit to ppl alot. And even then, ppl take moves from other ppl and do em anyway (aka biting), and they might even throw in a twist to make it unique, who knows. my point is that without bitng, the knowledge cant be shared
i dont wanna be the ass hole here but i have to stand up for alot and i mean ALOT of bboys! i respect this man alot! i understand what he means how many bboys have no style but he contradicts himself, he says SMZ is original then says bc one bboys are wakk even tho cloud entered! Differ hong 10 lilou roxrite physicx born! come on man! all these Bboys went to show what they got! not to compete but to go show thier love for the scene! you can't tell me all competitions and all Bboys are wakk!
Marlon is definitely one of the original/innovators in the game along with people like kmel, abstrak, cloud, lil john, remind, crumbs etc...dope interview!
I agree what Marlon says here, but he should be more clearer about originality. You can't really create a move, because every move has been done way before breakin was created in the 70's. If you seen the youtube video of the Russian dancers/ Nicolas Brothers/ Sammy Davis Jr then you know what I mean. Its saying like I created apples. If a move defines originality and creativity, then we are all biters. It shouldn't be about the move, it should be about style and character, im just saying
I remember breaking in the 90's and today they are no B-Boys, back then a B-Boys were part of the Hip Hop Elements. Breaking, scratching, rapping, graffiti Writers. It was fun, you would break while Dj's scratched, and then you would paint a train and represent your crew and create rhymes. Today all of that is gone, breakers are just breakers, graffiti writers are now by themselves, Dj's are gone, and rap sucks thanks to shits like Lil Wayne, Lupe Fiasco and the rest of punks that emerged!
respect man...the real...our genaration its orinality, criativity...the new genaration are all bitters ...is the way they understand the all things..WACK...only tree rounds and all bitters ..thanks marlon ..peace
thinking, "damn, i need to master the acrobatic moves of breaking and get down my crazy flips and shit!" No, that shows no creativity. The perfect example of one who has "style, invdividuality, and creativity"? Bboy cloud (whom i forgot to mention in that list below). He is at the top, like really. and all he is, is style pretty much. He even came close to winning Red bull bc one 2009! But lost to lilou. So marlons statement of "BC one being a flipping competiiton"? he is wrong
"People sacrafice style, individuality, creativity for competition". Ok, in order to be at the very top in bboying, you need to have these characterisitics! Look at Taisuke, hong 10, physicx, ronnie, and lilou. These guys are at the top level of bboying because they are so unique. many of theses bboys have invented their own moves. That IS creative and stylish. For a bboy who wants to be at the top level, he should think,"Man, i need to be creative and come up with some sick moves" instead of
@xpkstealth i dont know what your trying to argue, especially since Marlon didnt talk about any bboys in particular and didnt use people as an example, he was just saying. And he wasnt talking about BC One that year, he was talking about BC One 2010, but Cloud also does some flips too anyways.
@nickbbbbbbbb Ok so ur right, i was vague in my explanation, i think i was going a little too crazy with the detail, but my point is, disregarding all the detail i wrote, you need style and creativity in order to be competitive
@xpkstealth ok thanks for that man, i appreciate you clearing that out. i agree with that too, you definitely do need that in order to be on top but he what he was saying is a lot of people do sacrifice that because they dont realize how important that is, which is true.
@nickbbbbbbbb Thats true and it honestly amazes me, bboys such as cico need to be more creative and stylish. in terms of power, he is indeed at the top, no doubt. But, he needs to at least learn to use his power creatively, or come up with power moves like physicx for example. Physicx is the perfect example of a power head with style.
@xpkstealth definitely agree with you on that one bro. In terms of perfection and his combos, they are sick but i do feel he is lacking with being creative with his power. Physicx on the other hand definitely innovated and brought new stuff to the table.
I hope that Marlon reads this. I respect you, and you had some good points. But your dissing on our generation just because it's changing and you can't keep up. Instead of complaining that BC one is a flip competition, maybe you should enter it and win to prove your point? And guess why you didint get invited? Because all those bboys would fckn smoke your ass thats why. Not every 40year old bboy is a fckn piorneer of the scene. GTFO in eboy terms.
You know what? Here in the philippines specifically Cebu, we have like 30 guys learning powermoves. They've got airflare, flares, headspins, mills... etc. A few footwork, most of them only know one toprock. the indian step or cross step.
NONE of them know the 4 elements of hip hop. NONE of them know How, Where and When bboying started. NONE of them are interested in the history. A friend of mine asked them to research they said. No need. we're happy already.
True man, everyone just wants to get a bunch of power to enter competitions or learning a bunch of flips. I think it's sad people forget where they come from, Breakin isn't all about compeitions. It's the lifestyle and the culture, you don't do it for competition you do it for the sake of being a bboy.
wat jn1ghtmare said is soo true, now wat makes original is u taking from different styles and making ur own style, or really like dominating one move and try to being inovative with it, and even if u do that some other guy might have done it before and u dont even realize it, but there still is some space to have ur own,
Thats the only thing i strongly disagree with marlon
the transition was exactly the same. how can I be called a biter when someone ive never seen before came up with the same move? just because he’s done it longer? or that he’s more well known? you can’t call someone a biter in that context.
that being said, I do think its wrong to bite, not moves however, but style. everyone seems to do that nowadays though. nowadays, there seems to be a very thin line between “being inspired” by someones style and straight up biting someones style.
i don't see biting "moves" as the problem, i mean someone else on the other side of the world can create the same move or transition that you came up with.
about 3 years ago, i was working on creating new footwork transitions at practice and i came up with one that i thought was pretty good, it was my “signature”, so to speak. but one day one of my buddy's told me that i was biting flea rock, back then i didn't even know who he was, and he showed me a video of him and sure enough
Marlon my boy its me bboy jalapeno! I cant wait for the day we´ll meet again! Brother!!! And everything you are sayong I saw it change in houston with all the new cats that came up in this last 5 years! keep up the good work! hope tp heard more of you traveling the world and beating really good B-Boys!
marlon speaks the truth but honestly sometimes its not the bboys' fault for lack of style its the competitions' fault. i just went to a jam recently and i watched a battle with a bboy with an original style vs. a bboy that had soild power and decent footwork but nothing especially original, and the second bboy won. wuts more is that bboys from marlon's generation were the judges.
I think Marlon is spot on with most of what he says. Competition is killing creativity because of the rules set in place not the Bboys themselves. Bboys need to battle enough to see their arsenal not just 2 rounds like at Red Bull. 5 rounds each battle should be the minimum.
He's right when it comes to competition but that is not the BBoy's fault it is the fault of the competitions and how they structure the battles. I agree that BC One is whack with first rounds of 2 sets and the rest with 3. Every battle should be 5 rounds and if you need to spread it out over two days that's fine.
@FloMonKish Well let's see....Marlon has been busting those moves for 9 - 10 years plus. Exactly his point. You don't see the creativity because a lot of people have a similar style.
Lasty, I appreciate all that Marlon had to say. I think it's important to bring the focus back to the art. Put your soul, your hard work, creativity and personal expression into it and you will be ORIGINAL. If people are looking to the dance and the culture as a source of money and a way to feel superior to others then like anything else in life they are misguided and what they do will come out looking wrong and uninspired.
Wow, it looks like this interview gave people a lot to talk about so first of all props for that because anything that generates thought and dialogue among people is good. Secondly, thanks to Marlon for speaking his mind honestly and not being afraid of what other people will think. I think hypocrisy is also a problem in our scene and often people are afraid to say what they really think openly because they're too busy trying to get status, so they say things anonymously on youtube instead.
not really much of a bboy but isn't bboying supposed to be a definition you create on your own instead of what everyone else says? idk that's my 2 cents on it. and btw they spelled sacrifice wrong at 2:34 :)
With the bboy community growing, imagine how difficult it is to be individual... can someone really make up all the moves that he does to be great and still call themselves a bboy? his opinion say's that all other bboy who put work into this dance is WACK or FAKE. It would be GREAT if you created your own style but you have to start from somwhere right?
@1RicePatty i feel that you have a valid point here, but i believe that marlon is pointing out to bboys who climb up to the peak through imitation... riding on others' efforts and lacking of originality; individuality.and when some bboys mastered techniques or sets (that they took it off somewhere, eg youtube), they depend on it almost wholly, without actually coming up something from themselves through experiments and innovations... the problem is that they are credited for work they didn't do.
Thank you Marlon. Be an artist, a leader, an innovator. Some people get it some people dont. I regret having wasted my time talking to people who dont have a clue to what dance is. E-boys and you-boys just continue to talk bc they cant dance. I need to continue to just shut up and dance. No more talking for me...
Yo I feel what Marlon is sayin about workshops. Top9 took their time out to have a workshop in Vegas where I know there's easily hundreds of dancers. But, including me, only 3 people showed up. They had to cancel the workshop cause not enough people showed up. It really makes me wonder when bboys aren't excited to go to a workshop with respected and well known bboys.
i think what Marlon is trying to say is that bboys have to learn the generics aka Foundational Moves first (cc's, 6 step, baby freeze, swipe, flare, etc.). and then from those foundational moves, they make their own combination, variations...eventually developing their own style to the point where if you see somebody dancing that original style, you now who it is without ever seeing their faces and/or hearing their voices.
Marlon is saying that nowadays, most bboys nowadays just looks the same
This interview confirmed what I thought for a long time. I stopped breaking for the longest because I got sick of seeing the same old thing from everyone and everyone saying it was dope you know like threading to airchair all the time n stuff. But, I realized that for me its not about that. I got into bboying because I loved the culture, the music and everything. Ultimately its not about winning a bunch of jams or getting like 20K hits on you tube. To me, its just trying to be me ya know?...
everything starts out with a copy, we got the 3 step because someone copied the six step and made it there own, so you can make new moves, but you cant have a move that isn't like another, when bboying started it was was a blank canvas, but it becomes harder and harder to create your own moves as this canvas is now getting pretty full so its hard not to copy. So people try to be different but it gets harder every day to have your own stuff.
@jn1ghtmare its basically how you express yourself. your style should come out from who you are. yes its hard to be all original but atleast have your own flava to that move that you took, marlon even said its not about doing it better its all about how can you seperate yourself from the crowd. =) its all about self expression without the pressure of trying to please other people
@jn1ghtmare It wouldn't be if everyone stopped watching youtube. Honestly, seeing moves new and old done by bboys on youtube inadvertently leaves an indelible impression on the mind. Because people have seen these videos so many times they moves, even if there are slight variations, tend to look similar. Trust me, I used to dance begging in the early 90's and there seemed like when something crazy came out it couldnt get better but it did. Everyone kept pumping original stuff bc you didnt have..
@girtisholland ...other people's style and moves stained in your brain. You didnt see other people unless you had VHS or watched them at jams. Kids watch so much youtube and spend time trying to learn and do all the stuff that is and has been done by others because they constantly see it, rather than having a clear mind, which equates to a blank canvas. I don't know if I'm clear in what I mean. Less youtube means more creativity. It is why the 90's had the highest level of creativity vs now.
@girtisholland I understand what you mean. I remember reading an interview with Soulstice from Lionz of Zion. She said that, for the first two years, they purposely didn't watch any videos or go to any jams because they wanted their mind clear to create a unique style of bboying.
@imsno0zin That's an amazing idea and concept. I hear people say that everything's been done, but its not true. People's minds are confined to the youtube videos they watch endlessly. If a writer reads 5 books by Mark Twain before writing their own book, subconsciously the writing will bear semblance to Twain. Same with watching videos and then practicing. If bboys freed their mind and stopped watching videos, I guarantee over time they would have new and original moves. You cant deny the...
@girtisholland ...coincidental parallel between the state of bboy originality now and in the 90's. The 90's had just a high bar set, with constant envelope pushing. Moves and style evolved high and fast. It stopped towards 2003-4 ish with the availability of videos, dvd, and youtube. That is the one common denominator in the current state of bboy. All of the poineers and later bboys of my generation know this to be true.
@girtisholland Thank you, totally agree. An art form has no limitations. If you asked people15-20 years ago if multiple airflares or 10+ (90's) were possibe, most would laugh. The true artists say anything is possible. It disappoints me to hear of people who believe moves or styles are harder to create today. They are stuck in a box. An artist has no boundaries. I remember jus 10 years ago when people reacted as if an airchair was incredible.Today, an airchair is viewed by many as standard.
@companysoulnyc when I made that point I was saying that bboy is all on one canvas, each bboy adds their own colour and stamp onto the canvas, once all the bboys step back and think "this is beautiful, I can't think of anything left to be put onto this masterpiece" and that is when it becomes difficult, I mean look at ma-Li and Rubberlegzz, they have created something new but some people don't think its bboying and that to me shows that bboying is limited, there is only so much we can do.
@companysoulnyc you got some good points there, but I do think you can see where I'm coming from, you seem to understand that it is getting harder to find your own stuff because there are thousands of bboys all trying to figure out their own stuff, and even though i respect your point, if it was "easy" to create your own story then why do we see so many people rockin the same moves as everyone else?
@companysoulnyc I think this conversation has ended bitterly, I didn't want to offend you, I have a right to state my opinion as much as you, people will always try to be different, but you can't say its easy to be a unique bboy when there are so many just like you. you keep saying the canvas will never get full, what I'm saying is there is an infinite amount of combos, but not moves, there is a limit, in the old days it was easier to make moves, you can't say it hasn't got harder
@companysoulnyc excuse me? YOU kept saying moves! you kept saying oh there will be new moves always ect ect, and quit telling me what I can and can't say READ MY PREVIOUS POST, seriously, I had respect for your opinions but obviously you don't have any respect for mine so why the hell should I respect yours anymore, I even said I didn't want to offend you I was just stating my opinion, but obviously you want your opinion to be everyones, but listen, it isnt my opinion so quit getting aggressive!
@companysoulnyc I think this conversation has ended bitterly, I didn't want to offend you, I have a right to state my opinion as much as you, people will always try to be different, but you can't say its easy to be a unique bboy when there are so many just like you. you keep saying the canvas will never get full, what I'm saying is there is an infinite amount of combos, but not moves, there is a limit, in the old days it was easier to make moves, you can't say it hasn't got harder.
@jn1ghtmare : actually its not true. everything you did has already been done. and you can see people who used the elements of breakin you have now back in 1905. so... i just think that every root came from a tree and tree from a root n so on, so... its just a matter of what differs people its their emotions, you know, point of view, exerience, its all about expression.
@ nightmare: the moment when you really create (no matter if bboying is full or whatever) is the moment of the crash of two things: personality/ emotions - simply feeling, the swagg and the music. and the sixstep is just the identity of what you do. it makes you some instead of none.
PLUS: theres no excuse for killing the art. no excuse for fakin tha funk. if people stopped makin excuses and using easy ways, world wud be better.
@jn1ghtmare : plus a long way towards something is more worthy because not onlu you get respect instead of 5min fame, but also you gain your own respect for your art. Hiphop's not a bitch, you know, and the judges just assimilate... so I'm really happy that there are people who dont lie to themselves and the others just for feeling comfortable while perpetratin hip hop. and its all about jumping to another levels, but not from round to round. wheres the soul. Big Up to Marlon!
@jn1ghtmare Its not just about copying moves...its about copying the style and this is the problem. we should all strive to to have our own unique approach to dance and bring out a flavor that is inherent to our own personalties and experiences.
@jn1ghtmare Dog, i just wanna say, you are abolutely right! like honestly. Theres so many new moves that are being invented its insane. hong 10 halo freeze, hong 10 bridge, spinning reverse airbaby, rivers 1990, rivers 2000, gattling gun, etc.etc. Its ok to bite moves. When crazy legs came up with the windmill, it was his that he made. not only has it been bitten by other bboys, but it is now the most foundational power move. Its ok to take other moves, but it is NOT ok to take another's style.
@xpkstealth lol. it's not called hong10 halo freeze, hong10 bridge, rivers 1990, rivers 2000 lol....gattling gun wtf? so then your 6step is Spy 6step(if you even know who Spy is lol...) ahahhahahong10 freeze...ffs...
@TheGraffiteGhost Ha, obviously you havent been up to date with the "new powermoves" that are comin around. Yes it is hong 10 halo freeze, or just halo freeze, hong 10 bridge is actually "bridge 90", and oh, rivers 2000 and rivers 1990? those are absolutely the correct names. and the gattling gun? you know the move physicx does where he kicks his legs about in a circular motion going to a hollowback position and back to the front? thats the gattling gun. If you want me to prove it id be glad.
i honestly respect marlon...but he's spiteful cuz he has never attained true power, no respect to the greats ....lil amok, speed d , kys, bboy crush , ....lol he's a;ways been a semi hater
damn 5 people at el nino workshop ?!?!?! wow. pretty much take all those competition born bboys he talking about and throw them in a cypher with him or other awesome cypher bboys . just my opinion though
@danceboi112 If only 5 people showed up, then there is only 1 good explanation I can think of. The workshop was not promoted promoted properly. If he came to Toronto where I live guaranteed 20 peeps minimum.
You do this cuz you love it, not cuz you want to make money and live from it, you don't need to see the world, you got your world in the dance, if you love the dance, the dance is your world. That talk about gettin money, evolving, doing this or that is wack, theres always gonna be somebody for and against mainstream, well I'm the cat thats against cuz I like it raw as the dance is, not fancy and cute on a big ass stage with commentators like we are some fucking athletes.
@HNClan Well I guess I'm almost the complete opposite. I do love this dance and at the same time I do wanna make money and live from it. That's exactly what I'm doing now. I teach and I perform. I wouldn't mind seeing the world and the fact that my world is in the dance means I have to make money doing it. I literally have to "bboy or die" like the shirt says. I refuse to do anything else and I believe it is possible to do something you love and still make a living from it.
@bboyStuntZ Loving ur job is like the ultimate satisfaction. Unlike doing something for just the money and that's it, when you love what you do, you put more effort into it. I used to work in a restaurant and if I didn't have to work I wouldn't go there just for the hell of it without pay and just do my job. What's the point? If I ain't getting paid to dance like if I reach a club? I'm still gonna dance. Ain't nuttin wrong wit getting paid to do what you love.
@HNClan Yo man respect, what you say speaks to everyone, but I think if you travel so you can love bboying even more, then that's fine with me, I mean thanks to these traveling bboys more and more people are starting to dance, and even if they are going to be powerheads, they may not understand completely what bboying is, but they will understand better then an average joe. And i think this helps bboying community.
another thing the judges of BC ONE were: Katsu of The Mighty Zulu Kingz (Japan), Salah of Vagabonds Crew (France), Ronnie of Super Cr3w (USA), Cico of Spinkingz (Italy), and B-Boy Float (USA). How do you think Marlon's statement does reflect on decisions by judges and decisions by people who do invitations for events?
I think Marlon makes a strong point. I grew watching FSS 3 tapes and anybody who has seen those knows exactly what he's talkin'about. I just think bboying developed, you need people that bite, youtube, BC one..to get to the level where it is today. The movement is big and therefore less diverse when it comes to style. Just ask yourself; are you in it for the competition or for a statement of your expression? Don't judge. Thing is you always remember style and forget about competition results..
For as long as i've been dancing, marlon has stayed pretty original. to the guy who said his move looked like another dude. I say creative minds think alike. Nowadays you see the entire burns style sets getting chomped. I think that's what he truly ment. I go to practice and i can see what influences people now. back in the day, people just looked different all the time. Very dope interview and he's pretty on point with it.
I have alot of respect for marlon and his words are truth. but with the whole biting situation its hard to define because for example at 2:50 Marlon's first set reminded me so much of Juse Boogie from MM because Juse has a set really similar to this and I've never seen anyone else do it tell now in this video. it's hard to define who came up with it first because we're from so many different areas.
i agree with most of what he said most definitely, but i don't like how they used neguin in the background calling him a competition bboy. that guy has personality, style, and flavor all to himself that explode off the stage way more than most bboys and is instantly recognizable by anyone who has seen him dance. He combines with his tricks and power to produce a full dance experience. he is a complete bboy in my eyes.
but thanks to marlon for spittin the truth and spreadin the knowledge.
I've talked to lots of Bboys (that have earned props), new and old school, and all of them have spent time in the dungeon creating. And if you're not the one creating it, then you better flip it cause if you go against the right Bboy, he will call you out on ya bitin ass. And ain't nothin more embarrassing than being called a biter. I've seen it with my own 4 eyes...haha and if you're a "flipper" you better boogie with it, cuz rounds of style will always smoke rounds of flips.
@floorrealcrew There is not too much flipping. And even the flipping that is done at times is done on beat. Bboys are listening to the music more and dancing MORE on beat. At one point that was the complaint but then more bboys took that in and more bboys are actually dancing now. As if there wasn't dat much flipping in the past. Look at K-mel? Ivan, Crumbs, Krazy Kujo? All respected bboys, all did allot of flips. Marlon didn't explain his point very well.
Cool, bite is something bad BUT there was a time where "6 step", "cc's", "swipes", etc was moves that was signature of a particular bboy and EVERYBODY started copy that and that is the reason that bboy became a dance. Always is like that, pic something and goes to NeXT level. Peace.
I think Marlon makes a strong point. I grew watching FSS 3 tapes and anybody who has seen those knows exactly what he's talkin'about. I just think bboying developed, you need people that bite, youtube, BC one..to get to the level where it is today. The movement is big and therefore less diverse when it comes to style. Just ask yourself; are you in it for the competition or for a statement of your expression? Don't judge. Thing is you always remember style and forget about competition results..
Btw people still have their own style, there goes TonyRock, there goes Menno, there goes Ata etc etc. You still have people with their own unique style but many people dance the same, its the truth!
@baariton I guess you dont go to local jams enough. If you do you would see all these new bboys doing same shit and when they make it to the next round its either no more moves or exhausted.
One thing i disagree about Marlon is about Bc One. All the competitors loves to bboy and very original to their moves. One person might not have good style but there powermoves are some to the next level.
@FootmenVsGrunts i go to local jams, but Marlon was talking about Kmel, Lil John etc. Bboys who have their own style, but today there are still bboys with their own style, thats all im saying.
@FootmenVsGrunts Yes and I don't he example they used wit bboy Neguin flipping. He's a very well rounded bboy. He can come at you wit clean ass footwork dope power, and ridiculous flips. He's not weak in any of those elements and the da guy can still ride a beat. He's a bad example and I hate when people say him and his crew are gymnasts or all they know is capoeira. They obviously are only paying attention to one thing or 2 things.
TBC... THINKING THAT WINNING BATTLES WITH THAT MAKES U A DISTINGUISHED BBOY/S. FUCK ALL OF U THAT R ON THAT SAME SHIT. U FOOLS WOULDNT LAST AGAINST CREATIVE AND INNOVATORS LIKE MIDUS, ( FUCKING DOPE ASS BBOY ), RAWBZILLA , REMIND , KUJO , MARIO ( HK ) , PA , DAYLIGHT ( DONT KNOW WHERE HE IS FROM BUT HE WAS DOPE IN FSS5 ) , INFERNO, CIRCLE OF FIRE ( WHOLE CREW ), AND TOO MUCH TO NAME. ALL TRUE HEADS THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THE FOLLOWERS KEEP INNOVATING AND ONE DAY U WILL BE RECOGNIZED 4 WHO U R.
I love how he refers back to HipHop - and I'm talking the culture the beliefs not just the rap music that is out. I think that is the biggest difference - a lot of new schoolers have lost the desire to learn about ALL of the history and the culture. Which is such a shame, it's SO interesting, there's SO much to learn. It's in the vids and the books that are out, take advantage of this age where info is everywhere, people!
MisSiszY 5 days ago
I had an amazing honor of battling Marlon. Of course I lost, but he's an amazing dancer and I respect him so much.
AFighterInNick 1 week ago
I have mad respect for KORO and the crew since 2000!
lowtiderecords 3 weeks ago
Marlon is iight but he needs to take his own advice and learn from a workshop. where is his dancing and footwork?
1realeyez 4 weeks ago
marlon has crack head teeth and he cant dance at all, no flow and originality. he lost to menno easy and he talks about who can copy the best, his whole style is REMIND! learn how to dance nigga. truth.
muthafuckin321 1 month ago
@muthafuckin321 lol go practice instead of talking shit on youtube
MJFOO12345 2 weeks ago
I met Marlon and learned from him, danced with him on stage and cypher and even had a small uprock session with him. All I can say, is quit hating on someone who is true to the art since 15 years and from all I know he ain't talking about the bboys u all love to dickride, i.e. Hong 10, Physicx (why would he, both dance with Floor Gangz, and they share moves and other stuff), Ronnie etc..these guyz have STYLE they are different and they have inspired ppl with their "STYLE" not "COMPETITION WINS".
BboyHotshot 3 months ago 5
Big respect from Russia, man. All the things you said in this video were just like in my mind for a really long time, and now you said it and, like, a lot of breakboys around the world heard your words and agreed with them, so now I know that there are people in the world that do think like I do, that's kind of an inspiration for me. Big thanks and respect to Marlon, big thanks and respect to B-boy Magazine for this amazing interview, big respect to everyone who agrees with Marlon.
Romskee1 3 months ago
RISPECT MAN! I agree!! (b-boy Dry from Italy) COM HERE TO DO WORKSHOPS MAN!!!!!!! I like the way u dance and the way u think! REAL B-BOY!!!!!! RISPECT!!!!
bboyDryDry 4 months ago
this guys on drugs now he looks fuckt whatsup wiv this punk shit
MoroccanAnwar 4 months ago
MARLON IS JUST SICK AND TIRED FOR THE NEW GENERATION WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT HIPHOP....... AND SO AM I
rimexbboys 4 months ago
Bboy Marlon sucks
Disturbedpattern 5 months ago
about biting! every move started from one foundation! it just depends how you create a move your own to a point where you can say, i made this move, yeah i started studying another move but i made it mine by putting my flavor into it. examples, 2000, everyone does it right? so what did Physicx do? Rivers 2000! everyone airchairs but look how lilou made it his own! hong 10 freeze! Morris elbow spin compared to physicx elbow spin! I doubt everyone watching this is tryna bite on purpose right?
BboyZoinks 6 months ago
@BboyZoinks I agree with you my man, moves are just moves. It is NOT ok to bite sets and take other peoples style, but to take moves and make it ur own is forsure ok. Like how physicx took the 2000 and made rivers 2000. I undrstand where ur comin from bro, i try to explain this shit to ppl alot. And even then, ppl take moves from other ppl and do em anyway (aka biting), and they might even throw in a twist to make it unique, who knows. my point is that without bitng, the knowledge cant be shared
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BboyZoinks 6 months ago
i dont wanna be the ass hole here but i have to stand up for alot and i mean ALOT of bboys! i respect this man alot! i understand what he means how many bboys have no style but he contradicts himself, he says SMZ is original then says bc one bboys are wakk even tho cloud entered! Differ hong 10 lilou roxrite physicx born! come on man! all these Bboys went to show what they got! not to compete but to go show thier love for the scene! you can't tell me all competitions and all Bboys are wakk!
BboyZoinks 6 months ago 2
Marlon is definitely one of the original/innovators in the game along with people like kmel, abstrak, cloud, lil john, remind, crumbs etc...dope interview!
MrNestro 6 months ago
I agree what Marlon says here, but he should be more clearer about originality. You can't really create a move, because every move has been done way before breakin was created in the 70's. If you seen the youtube video of the Russian dancers/ Nicolas Brothers/ Sammy Davis Jr then you know what I mean. Its saying like I created apples. If a move defines originality and creativity, then we are all biters. It shouldn't be about the move, it should be about style and character, im just saying
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ThestreetsofNY1 7 months ago
DAMN YOU'RE SO RIGHT MARLON!!!!!!
diseasefire 7 months ago
LOL, is he taking about neguin?
cyberex7 7 months ago
I remember breaking in the 90's and today they are no B-Boys, back then a B-Boys were part of the Hip Hop Elements. Breaking, scratching, rapping, graffiti Writers. It was fun, you would break while Dj's scratched, and then you would paint a train and represent your crew and create rhymes. Today all of that is gone, breakers are just breakers, graffiti writers are now by themselves, Dj's are gone, and rap sucks thanks to shits like Lil Wayne, Lupe Fiasco and the rest of punks that emerged!
Classichousechannel 7 months ago 3
Marlon is so negative!
marine91910 8 months ago
respect man...the real...our genaration its orinality, criativity...the new genaration are all bitters ...is the way they understand the all things..WACK...only tree rounds and all bitters ..thanks marlon ..peace
Hiroshimastyle 8 months ago
Moge prosic o tytul utworu ktory zaczyna sie w 4:50 minucie..?:)
seweryn22 8 months ago
8 dislikes from biters !!!
bboytek3 9 months ago 3
bboys es evolucion prefiero intentar movimientos nuevos que estar en lo antiguo,,, y no acerse el payaso cuando baylas como marl.......
bboymiedoso 9 months ago
thinking, "damn, i need to master the acrobatic moves of breaking and get down my crazy flips and shit!" No, that shows no creativity. The perfect example of one who has "style, invdividuality, and creativity"? Bboy cloud (whom i forgot to mention in that list below). He is at the top, like really. and all he is, is style pretty much. He even came close to winning Red bull bc one 2009! But lost to lilou. So marlons statement of "BC one being a flipping competiiton"? he is wrong
xpkstealth 9 months ago
"People sacrafice style, individuality, creativity for competition". Ok, in order to be at the very top in bboying, you need to have these characterisitics! Look at Taisuke, hong 10, physicx, ronnie, and lilou. These guys are at the top level of bboying because they are so unique. many of theses bboys have invented their own moves. That IS creative and stylish. For a bboy who wants to be at the top level, he should think,"Man, i need to be creative and come up with some sick moves" instead of
xpkstealth 9 months ago
@xpkstealth i dont know what your trying to argue, especially since Marlon didnt talk about any bboys in particular and didnt use people as an example, he was just saying. And he wasnt talking about BC One that year, he was talking about BC One 2010, but Cloud also does some flips too anyways.
nickbbbbbbbb 8 months ago
@nickbbbbbbbb Ok so ur right, i was vague in my explanation, i think i was going a little too crazy with the detail, but my point is, disregarding all the detail i wrote, you need style and creativity in order to be competitive
xpkstealth 8 months ago
@xpkstealth ok thanks for that man, i appreciate you clearing that out. i agree with that too, you definitely do need that in order to be on top but he what he was saying is a lot of people do sacrifice that because they dont realize how important that is, which is true.
nickbbbbbbbb 8 months ago
@nickbbbbbbbb Thats true and it honestly amazes me, bboys such as cico need to be more creative and stylish. in terms of power, he is indeed at the top, no doubt. But, he needs to at least learn to use his power creatively, or come up with power moves like physicx for example. Physicx is the perfect example of a power head with style.
xpkstealth 8 months ago
@xpkstealth definitely agree with you on that one bro. In terms of perfection and his combos, they are sick but i do feel he is lacking with being creative with his power. Physicx on the other hand definitely innovated and brought new stuff to the table.
nickbbbbbbbb 8 months ago
I hope that Marlon reads this. I respect you, and you had some good points. But your dissing on our generation just because it's changing and you can't keep up. Instead of complaining that BC one is a flip competition, maybe you should enter it and win to prove your point? And guess why you didint get invited? Because all those bboys would fckn smoke your ass thats why. Not every 40year old bboy is a fckn piorneer of the scene. GTFO in eboy terms.
WalMartBoy777 10 months ago
@WalMartBoy777 I agree with your point of view!
xpkstealth 9 months ago
EPIC
bboyxorri 10 months ago
You know what? Here in the philippines specifically Cebu, we have like 30 guys learning powermoves. They've got airflare, flares, headspins, mills... etc. A few footwork, most of them only know one toprock. the indian step or cross step.
NONE of them know the 4 elements of hip hop. NONE of them know How, Where and When bboying started. NONE of them are interested in the history. A friend of mine asked them to research they said. No need. we're happy already.
And they call themselves bboys.
JinKazama92 11 months ago
True man, everyone just wants to get a bunch of power to enter competitions or learning a bunch of flips. I think it's sad people forget where they come from, Breakin isn't all about compeitions. It's the lifestyle and the culture, you don't do it for competition you do it for the sake of being a bboy.
ElectroRain82 11 months ago 19
marlon speaks the truth straight uhp!...so juss shut uhp and listen
MrCURIOUSQ 11 months ago 2
Word up! So sad but so true.
Actually, I'm so glad a renowned b-boy finally speaks the truth about the nowadays breakin' scene.
Much props.
R2DJ3B 11 months ago
wat jn1ghtmare said is soo true, now wat makes original is u taking from different styles and making ur own style, or really like dominating one move and try to being inovative with it, and even if u do that some other guy might have done it before and u dont even realize it, but there still is some space to have ur own,
Thats the only thing i strongly disagree with marlon
TrekaXxx 11 months ago
Keeping it true.....
Panchito13pointO 11 months ago
OMG OMG OMG HE'S A BITER!
wow he bit my move. YOUTUBE FOR LIFE!
Thanks for your moves pal this is a new generation -
we are making you younger... :D
BBOY IDEA BOYS. NOT MEN YET.
R E S P E C T! YOUR HIP-HOP MAKERS!
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chicago.romania.austria.
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mrbunaciu 1 year ago
the transition was exactly the same. how can I be called a biter when someone ive never seen before came up with the same move? just because he’s done it longer? or that he’s more well known? you can’t call someone a biter in that context.
that being said, I do think its wrong to bite, not moves however, but style. everyone seems to do that nowadays though. nowadays, there seems to be a very thin line between “being inspired” by someones style and straight up biting someones style.
bboyaddicted 1 year ago
@bboyaddicted I agree with you completely. Read my comments at the beginning bro, they are recent.
xpkstealth 9 months ago
i don't see biting "moves" as the problem, i mean someone else on the other side of the world can create the same move or transition that you came up with.
about 3 years ago, i was working on creating new footwork transitions at practice and i came up with one that i thought was pretty good, it was my “signature”, so to speak. but one day one of my buddy's told me that i was biting flea rock, back then i didn't even know who he was, and he showed me a video of him and sure enough
bboyaddicted 1 year ago
Word up!!!
superman3421565 1 year ago
Marlon my boy its me bboy jalapeno! I cant wait for the day we´ll meet again! Brother!!! And everything you are sayong I saw it change in houston with all the new cats that came up in this last 5 years! keep up the good work! hope tp heard more of you traveling the world and beating really good B-Boys!
shinigamiichigo 1 year ago
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straight. there's a thousands moves that don't exist yet. the canvas will never be full.
chuddycuddles 1 year ago
marlon speaks the truth but honestly sometimes its not the bboys' fault for lack of style its the competitions' fault. i just went to a jam recently and i watched a battle with a bboy with an original style vs. a bboy that had soild power and decent footwork but nothing especially original, and the second bboy won. wuts more is that bboys from marlon's generation were the judges.
BboyRandii 1 year ago
my dude marlon keeping it 100.....houston's finest!
edp 1 year ago
LIKE!!
zorowing 1 year ago
I look at this for motivation...respect...respect. Thanks bboy Marlon.
darknoll44 1 year ago
MARLON TALK THE REAL SHIT AND NOT MANY PEOPLE CAN EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS FACTS NOWDAYS. RESPECT FOR HAVIKORO.
SickbreaksTV 1 year ago 41
I think Marlon is spot on with most of what he says. Competition is killing creativity because of the rules set in place not the Bboys themselves. Bboys need to battle enough to see their arsenal not just 2 rounds like at Red Bull. 5 rounds each battle should be the minimum.
db7987 1 year ago
He's right when it comes to competition but that is not the BBoy's fault it is the fault of the competitions and how they structure the battles. I agree that BC One is whack with first rounds of 2 sets and the rest with 3. Every battle should be 5 rounds and if you need to spread it out over two days that's fine.
db7987 1 year ago
After all that talk, they show Marlon dancing and... well... yeah that was not creative sorry.
FloMonKish 1 year ago
@FloMonKish Well let's see....Marlon has been busting those moves for 9 - 10 years plus. Exactly his point. You don't see the creativity because a lot of people have a similar style.
EnigmaticElement 1 year ago
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godoykings 1 year ago
Lasty, I appreciate all that Marlon had to say. I think it's important to bring the focus back to the art. Put your soul, your hard work, creativity and personal expression into it and you will be ORIGINAL. If people are looking to the dance and the culture as a source of money and a way to feel superior to others then like anything else in life they are misguided and what they do will come out looking wrong and uninspired.
AgentLynx 1 year ago
Wow, it looks like this interview gave people a lot to talk about so first of all props for that because anything that generates thought and dialogue among people is good. Secondly, thanks to Marlon for speaking his mind honestly and not being afraid of what other people will think. I think hypocrisy is also a problem in our scene and often people are afraid to say what they really think openly because they're too busy trying to get status, so they say things anonymously on youtube instead.
AgentLynx 1 year ago
not really much of a bboy but isn't bboying supposed to be a definition you create on your own instead of what everyone else says? idk that's my 2 cents on it. and btw they spelled sacrifice wrong at 2:34 :)
richsouce3 1 year ago
@richsouce3 thats wut im sayin
cyberex7 7 months ago
man ken swift had a workshop recently and 5 ppl showed up.......
bboyffox 1 year ago
@bboyffox lol. It's cause he didn't promote properly. That won't happen here in Toronto, Canada where I live.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
Bboying is about jamming .
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FloMonKish 1 year ago
With the bboy community growing, imagine how difficult it is to be individual... can someone really make up all the moves that he does to be great and still call themselves a bboy? his opinion say's that all other bboy who put work into this dance is WACK or FAKE. It would be GREAT if you created your own style but you have to start from somwhere right?
1RicePatty 1 year ago
@1RicePatty i feel that you have a valid point here, but i believe that marlon is pointing out to bboys who climb up to the peak through imitation... riding on others' efforts and lacking of originality; individuality.and when some bboys mastered techniques or sets (that they took it off somewhere, eg youtube), they depend on it almost wholly, without actually coming up something from themselves through experiments and innovations... the problem is that they are credited for work they didn't do.
peterleekanglun 1 year ago
Thank you Marlon. Be an artist, a leader, an innovator. Some people get it some people dont. I regret having wasted my time talking to people who dont have a clue to what dance is. E-boys and you-boys just continue to talk bc they cant dance. I need to continue to just shut up and dance. No more talking for me...
companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@companysoulnyc pfft
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companysoulnyc 1 year ago
Marlon should go to redbull bc one and hell win it since hes a real original bboy but overall marlon tells the truth
bboywrex 1 year ago
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true words from a truee bboy......theres non fake in them words bitters needa hear this cuz i hate bitters find a style dont bite one.....Beat.Guruz
BEATGURUNATION 1 year ago
true words from a truee bboy......theres non fake in them words bitters needa hear this cuz i hate bitters find a style dont bite one.....Beat.Guruz
BEATGURUNATION 1 year ago
Yo I feel what Marlon is sayin about workshops. Top9 took their time out to have a workshop in Vegas where I know there's easily hundreds of dancers. But, including me, only 3 people showed up. They had to cancel the workshop cause not enough people showed up. It really makes me wonder when bboys aren't excited to go to a workshop with respected and well known bboys.
solescifer 1 year ago
worddd this is some fresh words from a fresh bboy
neilsoulstice 1 year ago
i think what Marlon is trying to say is that bboys have to learn the generics aka Foundational Moves first (cc's, 6 step, baby freeze, swipe, flare, etc.). and then from those foundational moves, they make their own combination, variations...eventually developing their own style to the point where if you see somebody dancing that original style, you now who it is without ever seeing their faces and/or hearing their voices.
Marlon is saying that nowadays, most bboys nowadays just looks the same
junky2fk 1 year ago
This interview confirmed what I thought for a long time. I stopped breaking for the longest because I got sick of seeing the same old thing from everyone and everyone saying it was dope you know like threading to airchair all the time n stuff. But, I realized that for me its not about that. I got into bboying because I loved the culture, the music and everything. Ultimately its not about winning a bunch of jams or getting like 20K hits on you tube. To me, its just trying to be me ya know?...
bboyZRo1 1 year ago
everything starts out with a copy, we got the 3 step because someone copied the six step and made it there own, so you can make new moves, but you cant have a move that isn't like another, when bboying started it was was a blank canvas, but it becomes harder and harder to create your own moves as this canvas is now getting pretty full so its hard not to copy. So people try to be different but it gets harder every day to have your own stuff.
jn1ghtmare 1 year ago 32
@jn1ghtmare EXACTLY!! Wow. That's one of the best explanations I've read.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ vote it up then babe ;) lol
jn1ghtmare 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare Yep. Without hesitation. And I hope you a girl if you callin me babe. Haha and the wink too.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ I'm a guy straight up just messin with your head =P
jn1ghtmare 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare lol. Dats cool. But yeah definitely agree wit you still. Peace.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare its basically how you express yourself. your style should come out from who you are. yes its hard to be all original but atleast have your own flava to that move that you took, marlon even said its not about doing it better its all about how can you seperate yourself from the crowd. =) its all about self expression without the pressure of trying to please other people
neilsoulstice 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare It wouldn't be if everyone stopped watching youtube. Honestly, seeing moves new and old done by bboys on youtube inadvertently leaves an indelible impression on the mind. Because people have seen these videos so many times they moves, even if there are slight variations, tend to look similar. Trust me, I used to dance begging in the early 90's and there seemed like when something crazy came out it couldnt get better but it did. Everyone kept pumping original stuff bc you didnt have..
girtisholland 1 year ago
@girtisholland ...other people's style and moves stained in your brain. You didnt see other people unless you had VHS or watched them at jams. Kids watch so much youtube and spend time trying to learn and do all the stuff that is and has been done by others because they constantly see it, rather than having a clear mind, which equates to a blank canvas. I don't know if I'm clear in what I mean. Less youtube means more creativity. It is why the 90's had the highest level of creativity vs now.
girtisholland 1 year ago
@girtisholland I understand what you mean. I remember reading an interview with Soulstice from Lionz of Zion. She said that, for the first two years, they purposely didn't watch any videos or go to any jams because they wanted their mind clear to create a unique style of bboying.
imsno0zin 1 year ago
@imsno0zin That's an amazing idea and concept. I hear people say that everything's been done, but its not true. People's minds are confined to the youtube videos they watch endlessly. If a writer reads 5 books by Mark Twain before writing their own book, subconsciously the writing will bear semblance to Twain. Same with watching videos and then practicing. If bboys freed their mind and stopped watching videos, I guarantee over time they would have new and original moves. You cant deny the...
girtisholland 1 year ago 2
@girtisholland ...coincidental parallel between the state of bboy originality now and in the 90's. The 90's had just a high bar set, with constant envelope pushing. Moves and style evolved high and fast. It stopped towards 2003-4 ish with the availability of videos, dvd, and youtube. That is the one common denominator in the current state of bboy. All of the poineers and later bboys of my generation know this to be true.
girtisholland 1 year ago
@girtisholland Thank you, totally agree. An art form has no limitations. If you asked people15-20 years ago if multiple airflares or 10+ (90's) were possibe, most would laugh. The true artists say anything is possible. It disappoints me to hear of people who believe moves or styles are harder to create today. They are stuck in a box. An artist has no boundaries. I remember jus 10 years ago when people reacted as if an airchair was incredible.Today, an airchair is viewed by many as standard.
companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare
creativity is endless
o0oWeEe 1 year ago
@o0oWeEe creativity is bounded by the restriction of what peopl class as bboying.
jn1ghtmare 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare
you should look at Paranoid Androids road to bcone
he talks alot about what people class as bboying and breaking the so called "rules"
o0oWeEe 1 year ago
@o0oWeEe where can we see it?
skeletokyo 1 year ago
@skeletokyo
just google paranoid android road to bc one
o0oWeEe 1 year ago
@o0oWeEe thnx dude
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companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@companysoulnyc when I made that point I was saying that bboy is all on one canvas, each bboy adds their own colour and stamp onto the canvas, once all the bboys step back and think "this is beautiful, I can't think of anything left to be put onto this masterpiece" and that is when it becomes difficult, I mean look at ma-Li and Rubberlegzz, they have created something new but some people don't think its bboying and that to me shows that bboying is limited, there is only so much we can do.
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companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@companysoulnyc you got some good points there, but I do think you can see where I'm coming from, you seem to understand that it is getting harder to find your own stuff because there are thousands of bboys all trying to figure out their own stuff, and even though i respect your point, if it was "easy" to create your own story then why do we see so many people rockin the same moves as everyone else?
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companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@companysoulnyc I think this conversation has ended bitterly, I didn't want to offend you, I have a right to state my opinion as much as you, people will always try to be different, but you can't say its easy to be a unique bboy when there are so many just like you. you keep saying the canvas will never get full, what I'm saying is there is an infinite amount of combos, but not moves, there is a limit, in the old days it was easier to make moves, you can't say it hasn't got harder
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companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@companysoulnyc excuse me? YOU kept saying moves! you kept saying oh there will be new moves always ect ect, and quit telling me what I can and can't say READ MY PREVIOUS POST, seriously, I had respect for your opinions but obviously you don't have any respect for mine so why the hell should I respect yours anymore, I even said I didn't want to offend you I was just stating my opinion, but obviously you want your opinion to be everyones, but listen, it isnt my opinion so quit getting aggressive!
jn1ghtmare 1 year ago
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@companysoulnyc I think this conversation has ended bitterly, I didn't want to offend you, I have a right to state my opinion as much as you, people will always try to be different, but you can't say its easy to be a unique bboy when there are so many just like you. you keep saying the canvas will never get full, what I'm saying is there is an infinite amount of combos, but not moves, there is a limit, in the old days it was easier to make moves, you can't say it hasn't got harder.
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companysoulnyc 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare : actually its not true. everything you did has already been done. and you can see people who used the elements of breakin you have now back in 1905. so... i just think that every root came from a tree and tree from a root n so on, so... its just a matter of what differs people its their emotions, you know, point of view, exerience, its all about expression.
Ryfencja 1 year ago
@ nightmare: the moment when you really create (no matter if bboying is full or whatever) is the moment of the crash of two things: personality/ emotions - simply feeling, the swagg and the music. and the sixstep is just the identity of what you do. it makes you some instead of none.
PLUS: theres no excuse for killing the art. no excuse for fakin tha funk. if people stopped makin excuses and using easy ways, world wud be better.
Ryfencja 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare : plus a long way towards something is more worthy because not onlu you get respect instead of 5min fame, but also you gain your own respect for your art. Hiphop's not a bitch, you know, and the judges just assimilate... so I'm really happy that there are people who dont lie to themselves and the others just for feeling comfortable while perpetratin hip hop. and its all about jumping to another levels, but not from round to round. wheres the soul. Big Up to Marlon!
Ryfencja 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare Its not just about copying moves...its about copying the style and this is the problem. we should all strive to to have our own unique approach to dance and bring out a flavor that is inherent to our own personalties and experiences.
DynamiteDAYO 1 year ago
@jn1ghtmare Dog, i just wanna say, you are abolutely right! like honestly. Theres so many new moves that are being invented its insane. hong 10 halo freeze, hong 10 bridge, spinning reverse airbaby, rivers 1990, rivers 2000, gattling gun, etc.etc. Its ok to bite moves. When crazy legs came up with the windmill, it was his that he made. not only has it been bitten by other bboys, but it is now the most foundational power move. Its ok to take other moves, but it is NOT ok to take another's style.
xpkstealth 10 months ago
@xpkstealth lol. it's not called hong10 halo freeze, hong10 bridge, rivers 1990, rivers 2000 lol....gattling gun wtf? so then your 6step is Spy 6step(if you even know who Spy is lol...) ahahhahahong10 freeze...ffs...
TheGraffiteGhost 10 months ago
@TheGraffiteGhost Ha, obviously you havent been up to date with the "new powermoves" that are comin around. Yes it is hong 10 halo freeze, or just halo freeze, hong 10 bridge is actually "bridge 90", and oh, rivers 2000 and rivers 1990? those are absolutely the correct names. and the gattling gun? you know the move physicx does where he kicks his legs about in a circular motion going to a hollowback position and back to the front? thats the gattling gun. If you want me to prove it id be glad.
xpkstealth 9 months ago
@TheGraffiteGhost Rivers 1990 is another name for flagspin. Rivers 2000 is what physicx invented. its the flagspin, but with the hands in 2k position
xpkstealth 9 months ago
i honestly respect marlon...but he's spiteful cuz he has never attained true power, no respect to the greats ....lil amok, speed d , kys, bboy crush , ....lol he's a;ways been a semi hater
eatemup316 1 year ago
so marlon created CC, swipe, headswipes and freeze?
dksoul0223 1 year ago
@dksoul0223 thats what I was thinking lol
FloMonKish 1 year ago
@dksoul0223 haha good point. And no question he has done atleast one of those moves before.
VboyStuntZ 1 year ago
imagine if jams were still like that. some one bite someones move, everything stops , and they be like O YOU A BITER hahah
danceboi112 1 year ago
looks like a cow
dksoul0223 1 year ago
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damn 5 people at el nino workshop ?!?!?! wow. pretty much take all those competition born bboys he talking about and throw them in a cypher with him or other awesome cypher bboys . just my opinion though
danceboi112 1 year ago
@danceboi112 If only 5 people showed up, then there is only 1 good explanation I can think of. The workshop was not promoted promoted properly. If he came to Toronto where I live guaranteed 20 peeps minimum.
VboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@VboyStuntZ oh worrrdd im from toronto too
dksoul0223 1 year ago
@dksoul0223 Tdot in da house. haha. You break?
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ haha yep i'm down in hamilton scene for the moment for school
dksoul0223 1 year ago
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danceboi112 1 year ago
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ALLDAYCAL 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ
You do this cuz you love it, not cuz you want to make money and live from it, you don't need to see the world, you got your world in the dance, if you love the dance, the dance is your world. That talk about gettin money, evolving, doing this or that is wack, theres always gonna be somebody for and against mainstream, well I'm the cat thats against cuz I like it raw as the dance is, not fancy and cute on a big ass stage with commentators like we are some fucking athletes.
HNClan 1 year ago
@HNClan Well I guess I'm almost the complete opposite. I do love this dance and at the same time I do wanna make money and live from it. That's exactly what I'm doing now. I teach and I perform. I wouldn't mind seeing the world and the fact that my world is in the dance means I have to make money doing it. I literally have to "bboy or die" like the shirt says. I refuse to do anything else and I believe it is possible to do something you love and still make a living from it.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ Loving ur job is like the ultimate satisfaction. Unlike doing something for just the money and that's it, when you love what you do, you put more effort into it. I used to work in a restaurant and if I didn't have to work I wouldn't go there just for the hell of it without pay and just do my job. What's the point? If I ain't getting paid to dance like if I reach a club? I'm still gonna dance. Ain't nuttin wrong wit getting paid to do what you love.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@HNClan Yo man respect, what you say speaks to everyone, but I think if you travel so you can love bboying even more, then that's fine with me, I mean thanks to these traveling bboys more and more people are starting to dance, and even if they are going to be powerheads, they may not understand completely what bboying is, but they will understand better then an average joe. And i think this helps bboying community.
jn1ghtmare 1 year ago 2
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dmanalili 1 year ago
another thing the judges of BC ONE were: Katsu of The Mighty Zulu Kingz (Japan), Salah of Vagabonds Crew (France), Ronnie of Super Cr3w (USA), Cico of Spinkingz (Italy), and B-Boy Float (USA). How do you think Marlon's statement does reflect on decisions by judges and decisions by people who do invitations for events?
smurk143 1 year ago
I think Marlon makes a strong point. I grew watching FSS 3 tapes and anybody who has seen those knows exactly what he's talkin'about. I just think bboying developed, you need people that bite, youtube, BC one..to get to the level where it is today. The movement is big and therefore less diverse when it comes to style. Just ask yourself; are you in it for the competition or for a statement of your expression? Don't judge. Thing is you always remember style and forget about competition results..
smurk143 1 year ago
2 People were training for a flipping competition.
Mischieviouz 1 year ago
For as long as i've been dancing, marlon has stayed pretty original. to the guy who said his move looked like another dude. I say creative minds think alike. Nowadays you see the entire burns style sets getting chomped. I think that's what he truly ment. I go to practice and i can see what influences people now. back in the day, people just looked different all the time. Very dope interview and he's pretty on point with it.
megaCombo 1 year ago
I have alot of respect for marlon and his words are truth. but with the whole biting situation its hard to define because for example at 2:50 Marlon's first set reminded me so much of Juse Boogie from MM because Juse has a set really similar to this and I've never seen anyone else do it tell now in this video. it's hard to define who came up with it first because we're from so many different areas.
chamboy15 1 year ago 2
Speak the Truth Marlon. Also redbull jacked the BC One concept from Lords of the Floor in Seattle! Originality Stands Alone!
lightsleepers 1 year ago 2
@lightsleepers I'm pretty sure LotF was a red bull event
koolkeith 1 year ago
i agree with most of what he said most definitely, but i don't like how they used neguin in the background calling him a competition bboy. that guy has personality, style, and flavor all to himself that explode off the stage way more than most bboys and is instantly recognizable by anyone who has seen him dance. He combines with his tricks and power to produce a full dance experience. he is a complete bboy in my eyes.
but thanks to marlon for spittin the truth and spreadin the knowledge.
SwirvCross 1 year ago 10
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SwirvCross 1 year ago
i think needs something like defense. so how about adding tackles? that would solve all the problems.
recshopdan 1 year ago
I've talked to lots of Bboys (that have earned props), new and old school, and all of them have spent time in the dungeon creating. And if you're not the one creating it, then you better flip it cause if you go against the right Bboy, he will call you out on ya bitin ass. And ain't nothin more embarrassing than being called a biter. I've seen it with my own 4 eyes...haha and if you're a "flipper" you better boogie with it, cuz rounds of style will always smoke rounds of flips.
Rudy Rexx
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crunkvillainhk 1 year ago
@floorrealcrew There is not too much flipping. And even the flipping that is done at times is done on beat. Bboys are listening to the music more and dancing MORE on beat. At one point that was the complaint but then more bboys took that in and more bboys are actually dancing now. As if there wasn't dat much flipping in the past. Look at K-mel? Ivan, Crumbs, Krazy Kujo? All respected bboys, all did allot of flips. Marlon didn't explain his point very well.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
Cool, bite is something bad BUT there was a time where "6 step", "cc's", "swipes", etc was moves that was signature of a particular bboy and EVERYBODY started copy that and that is the reason that bboy became a dance. Always is like that, pic something and goes to NeXT level. Peace.
frankejara 1 year ago
I think Marlon makes a strong point. I grew watching FSS 3 tapes and anybody who has seen those knows exactly what he's talkin'about. I just think bboying developed, you need people that bite, youtube, BC one..to get to the level where it is today. The movement is big and therefore less diverse when it comes to style. Just ask yourself; are you in it for the competition or for a statement of your expression? Don't judge. Thing is you always remember style and forget about competition results..
smurk143 1 year ago
Mad respect for Marlon!
JoSephiroth0507 1 year ago
Dopest interview I've watched in my life.
skyboy2012 1 year ago
i dotn believe half the things u say
BbOYWeetTart 1 year ago
Man fuck that BITING IS BITING! Wether its now or in 10 Years.
KEEP IT REAL..
kdavidse 1 year ago
Btw people still have their own style, there goes TonyRock, there goes Menno, there goes Ata etc etc. You still have people with their own unique style but many people dance the same, its the truth!
baariton 1 year ago
@baariton I guess you dont go to local jams enough. If you do you would see all these new bboys doing same shit and when they make it to the next round its either no more moves or exhausted.
One thing i disagree about Marlon is about Bc One. All the competitors loves to bboy and very original to their moves. One person might not have good style but there powermoves are some to the next level.
FootmenVsGrunts 1 year ago
@FootmenVsGrunts i go to local jams, but Marlon was talking about Kmel, Lil John etc. Bboys who have their own style, but today there are still bboys with their own style, thats all im saying.
baariton 1 year ago
@FootmenVsGrunts Yes and I don't he example they used wit bboy Neguin flipping. He's a very well rounded bboy. He can come at you wit clean ass footwork dope power, and ridiculous flips. He's not weak in any of those elements and the da guy can still ride a beat. He's a bad example and I hate when people say him and his crew are gymnasts or all they know is capoeira. They obviously are only paying attention to one thing or 2 things.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
I Agree on most stuff he said, sadly enough thats the way it is now.
But "back in the day" there weren't any workshops either, so whats the point with the workshops?
baariton 1 year ago
dope interview
bboymaey 1 year ago
TBC... THINKING THAT WINNING BATTLES WITH THAT MAKES U A DISTINGUISHED BBOY/S. FUCK ALL OF U THAT R ON THAT SAME SHIT. U FOOLS WOULDNT LAST AGAINST CREATIVE AND INNOVATORS LIKE MIDUS, ( FUCKING DOPE ASS BBOY ), RAWBZILLA , REMIND , KUJO , MARIO ( HK ) , PA , DAYLIGHT ( DONT KNOW WHERE HE IS FROM BUT HE WAS DOPE IN FSS5 ) , INFERNO, CIRCLE OF FIRE ( WHOLE CREW ), AND TOO MUCH TO NAME. ALL TRUE HEADS THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THE FOLLOWERS KEEP INNOVATING AND ONE DAY U WILL BE RECOGNIZED 4 WHO U R.
2ill1313 1 year ago