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  • I would love to peek inside the heads of those who disliked this video. For science!

  • Everyone in America needs to see this. Especially starry-eyed Obama lovers

  • i think it is good that we have this president and here is why....next time around

    1. ppl will NOT vote for the color of a skin

    2. ppl WILL listen very carefully to what someone has to say and how it is said

    3. ppl will NOT fall for lies

    4. ppl WILL be way better informed

    5. ppl WILL judge by the content of Character

    we dont need a smooth talker ,we need someone with solutions,thats what made America great and gets ALL of US back there

  • @Hoschi0913, from your lips to gods ear.

  • @Hoschi0913 In reality the people who are paying attention will only go up a few more percent. (Ex:drugs were legal, the percentage of users rise 5 to 10 percent0 The real problem is don't think that people wont be easily fooled on the next election and the one after that. Every election since Kennedy has been nothing more than a soap opera feeding on the emotions of the American people. They say EVERYTHING WE want to hear while campaigning. Boss= Special Interest & Banksters

  • @PerpetualHarvest

    thats why ppl need to be informed and if there is anything not passing the smell test,as simple and small as it might be,dont vote for this person,regardless of what they say and how much they say what you want to hear,in the end it is our country (it does not belong to the gov't) and we have to live in it and make the best out of our lifes,of course best would be with someone we elect that doesnt screw us over alot,those are hard to find i know,but one for sure is out there

  • @Hoschi0913 I hope that people stopped voting at all.. you can not fix a damaged system. Let democracy, the mob rule, die out on its own and start doing business with fellow human being, not a politician. Free market.

  • @MaikUniversum

    iam not into democracy,that means that the majority rules,if they decide you cant have your home,its getting taken away,iam for the republic,means rule of law,everybody gets "treated" the same,well supposingly so

  • @Hoschi0913 "rule of law" - there is NO SUCH THING. Who is deciding what? Individuals (free makret), dictator (totalitarianism) or elite (democracy)? Be more specific. And google "the myth of rule of the law" and you will get what I mean by saying that.

  • Must Watch = "7 lies in under 2 minutes".....

    search it......and hear for your self what a LIER Brobama is....

  • Well done. Loved the shots of reactions.

  • Good Job, I think there may be other definitions that apply.

  • Increase Pell grants? No, they are decreasing pell grants, just another lie among all the others. America is so ignorant to have elected this man. Farther down the sewer The USA goes.

  • John Mccain mutters "freakin liar" LOL

  • obama blackwhite ducktalk double-plus-good.

    543 like persons

    53 unlikewise unpersons ungood crimestopwise

    rectify

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  • People are easy to manipulate. Can you not see that, those of you who are led around by your noses?

    Salem witch trials, McCarthyism, Commies under your bed evolving into Muslims under your bed, threats from everywhere that never materialize and you STILL buy the same line time after time after time.

    The people that feed you this tripe are not conservatives, nor are they the end all and be all of moral fortitude.

    All they want is for you to be terrified, and buy their lies and their crap.

  • Hearing any of these comments after the last 8 years just show both left and right are guilty of hypocrisy.

  • He is such a fucking evil, vile man.

  • it can likely be shown...and with great ease...that all presidents and politicians in the history of the USA (and probably most any other country for that matter)...are guilty of deception, lies and doublespeak...tis the nature of the beast, i.e. facade democracy and supposed representatives thereof...

  • yea ok, he didnt end the war... at least he didnt start it

  • Increasing troop numbers is not mutually exclusive with ending a war if increased troop numbers are what is required to end the war.

    Supporting something is not mutually exclusive with hating something if the thing you hate is the least of all possible evils.

    Restricting spending to necessities is not mutually exclusive with promoting education... ever.

    Cynicism "out there" means it is among others. It is not mutually exclusive with one man's expression of optimism.

    ...Anything else?

  • Every time I see Obama talk on TV I notice him contradicting everything he says, I don't need this video to show me that.

    On the other hand, no one has ever heard Rush Limbaugh contradict himself, & when they do he was clearly quoting Democrats.

  • @DoctorTopper LOL, oh shut up. You're too stupid to be discussing politics, let alone voting. Don't have children, please.

  • this vid doesn't really have any clear contradictions. I think "reasontv" is either unsure what a contradiction is, or is just believing what you want to believe based on moot video clips.

  • He continued and expanding things that people with common sense objected to Bush doing! But, those who were against what Bush did during 8 years are the ones who believe in this muppet puppet and don't object to continuations.

    Continuation of Tyranny is Change!

  • Apparently, the point will never come when partisan Americans on all points of the spectrum wake up to see that nearly all politicians are liars that sell us out to Big Business lobbyists and the Federal Reserve. These politicians want us to be extremely divided to discourage us from realizing that most of them are our enemies. Both parties control our country. They take turns screwing us over, no matter what illusional "party" is created within them.

  • It's all just a puppet show, and the Fed is the Puppeteer

  • when do we get that money after your wife gets back from vacation again

  • ahh i love how pelosi looked at obama like he was the second coming instead of acting like she was third of command glad shes out

  • Wow, so for you; nuance = doublethink.

  • @fresheyeball ? Ending war by sending more troops? Where is the nuance??

  • @TheProgressistViewer Actually that is a perfect example. Sending more troops may actually bring the conditions needed to end the war faster. There by ending the war by sending more troops. Of course that is a matter or perception.

  • @fresheyeball Sending more troops to Vietnam brought the conditions needed to end the war faster?

  • @TheProgressistViewer No. And personally, I don't think it will work here either, but that is a matter of opinion. My point stands that it is not, by itself, a contradiction.

  • He's not a using double-think, double-talk. He's a LIAR. Why is everybody afraid to call him what he is...a LIAR. He lied all through 2008, 2009 and 2010. His one half-brother lives in squalid poverty in Kenya, and the LIAR says he's concerned about people. He's simply a LIAR.The worst president ever to squat in the White House. He's a LIAR. LIAR!

  • Why are the American people oblivious or dumb to the situation at hand? It is obvious that both "parties" are pretty much the same, both working to enslave us in slightly different ways. How fortunate for the powers that be that the populace is distracted and living a lie. They want to remain unchallenged and keep the people divided and asleep. It is a reoccurring cycle of government that happens through out history.

  • @Alphadestrious most people eat breath and sleep state-ism, i would like to point the finger but at the same time its all they know.

  • @Alphadestrious I would go as far to say they aren't even trying to enslave us in different ways but ones just doing it slightly slower than the other.

  • WHat the fuck, are we all stupid. I think they are doing a hell of a good job of keeping Americans dumb as fuck. We cant even see when a man comes on live tv and says "clouds are blue, clouds are hot, clouds are red, clouds are moisture, clouds are cool." ITS THE SAME SHIT!

  • there was a time when the united states did stand for freedom and democracy,its such a shame the people of the united states allowed a load of evil cowboys who are only interested in making money take charge

  • @obamawarcapitalismn that is intelligent of u, and i suppose when you do something wrong then no one should ever trust an American (like yourself) ever again? That is the logic you are using here as u stated, "after obama i will never vote democrat again he sucks." key words here are democrat (which cover a large number of people) and the other is "he" (which sybolizes one person). Now explain to me how that is critical, or even intelligent thinking. And we wonder what is wrong with this country

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  • An added and unforeseen bonus from the Census is the fact that they have been doing it since the late 1700s and much of those records are publicly available, so if you are researching your families genealogical heritage it is a great way to track down your living and deceased family members.

  • @obamawarcapitalismn: Who are you kidding!?? Your 83 I.Q. makes you to dumb to vote!

  • @obamawarcapitalismn:

    We are pulling out of Iraq and Barack Obama said that he would be sending more troops into Afghanistan during his Presidential campaign, you developmentally stunted, fear & hate mongering, conspiracy theorist-troll!!

    Ohh yea, jobs are also being created, by private industry, by the gov't (Census Bureau!), etc.

    Nice try, failure!

  • @SpookeyR

    The government census is a straight up scam. It is designed to create jobs. Worthless jobs that have no real purpose. The census is inaccurate and the government knows this. They created the census so you would think they were creating jobs.

  • @xyzomz: Well, that's your fear mongering view! Local and state gov'ts get money from the federal gov't however and they have been for hundreds of years. The most effective way of determining what local & state gov'ts need is to take an account of how many ppl live within each community and you can shoot from the hip and guess... by looking at local & state gov't paperwork, for how many permits have been filed for different things, how many drivers license tests have been taken, .....

  • @xyzomz: ...how much business have local & state gov'ts been doing & from this try to determine are things likely to increase or decline?? But, that isn't a very good way of determining the exact numbers, for what they are and in turn what they are likely going to be. Which is why they have the Census. An added bonus of this is the creation of temporary jobs!

  • @SpookeyR lmao @ your response to obamawarcapitalism (his name says enough about his bias views)

  • Here is another one "hate speech is not free speech", Here is another one: ONLY a liberal is "broad minded", ONLY a liberal is "open minded". ONLY liberal's indoctrination is enlightment, EVERYONE ELSE is brainwashed. Liberalism is hateful"unhatefulness", facist"unfascism", intolerant"tolerance", bigoted"unbigotry", narrow-minded"broad-mindedness­", close-minded"open-mindedness", totaliterian"untotaliterianism­", mindless"mindfulness".

  • Liberals, it doesn't help you much, when WE ARE ALL sick and tired of you. When the Christians are sick and tired of you, when the Moslems are sick and tired of you, when the Athiests are sick and tired of you, and when everyone who is NOT a liberal is sick and tired of you. We don't all think alike, YOU DO!!! And your'e quick to say your opponent is blind and ignorant, rather than ADDRESSING the SPECIFIC problems. All your terms are generalized and EMPTY. HYPOCRITES!!!

  • @BurnAllLiberals Liberals are an endangered species. Thank God!

  • @jazzfusionary Yes, thank God, but I am sorry I will have to disagree with you KINDOF, because liberals are not only an "endangered" species, they are a dangerous species as well. They are dangerous to those who won't call them out on their lies and contradictions. You don't become "enlightened" by accepting what someone tells you about "questioning" without even QUESTIONING that. That is the POISON that I have to deal with, this IGNORANCE is ENLIGHTMENT contradiction.

  • @BurnAllLiberals ---i think someone needs a hug.

  • @BurnAllLiberals Same with republicans. Mr self denial. Both parties are a joke, frankly.

  • @possm88 I am not a republican, I just side with the lesser HYPOCRITICAL evil. I would rather prefer STARIGHTOUT forwardness, like ADMITING that they are about such and such, rather than SAYING they are about "care", and in reality and pragmatically it becomes the complete opposite. That's what pisses me off the most about Liberals, WHO ARE IN POWER, and WHO DO HAVE MORE POWER, and WHO ARE IN CONTROL.

  • @possm88 do you think that I think that republicans are really "conservative"? NO. To me, they are just liberals with guts, which I kind of hate more in other degrees. The only non-hypocritical liberals I know of are LIBERTERIANS, who are LIBERAL in ALL AREAS, and who are for LIMITED Government in ALL areas, i.e. like ENDING the WAR, AND CUTTING Government Spending INSIDE the country. And the only TRUE Conservatives so far that I know of today, are Muslims, and hopefully Christians too

  • @possm88 I am talking about those countries, possm88, that do not have any WESTERN values or WESTERN ideas, NONE!!! None of this Thomas Paine or John Locke CRAP!!! None of this DEMOCRACY crap!!! None of this Humanism CRAP, seperation of Religion and State CRAP, and etc.. Western Europe and the USA need HELP, they need a good strong dose of MEDICINE, to CLENSE out their Filth, that's why their citizens disobey them, because they can't be straightforward themselves to the people.

  • @BurnAllLiberals, I had no idea the words of an admitted theocrat (you) would resonate so high.

  • @BurnAllLiberals Here's your problem, America IS liberal. America was founded by liberals..radicals in fact. So stop pretending that you set the standard. LIBERALS set the standard, you cavemen just get dragged into the future kicking and screaming. Eventually conservatives accept the ideas of the liberal, after they overcome their fears. and fear is the primary motivation of conservatives. Fear of change, fear of immigrants, fear of technology, fear of science, fear of different languages

  • @MrTruthAddict I agree with you that America is Liberal. They have been IMPOSING their LIBERAL agenda in the middle east too. Forcing them to accept THEIR (and the E.U.) Standards of so called "human rights" and etc. like so called "gay rights" and "women rights" and etc. Yes, you are absolutely RIGHT. By the way, IM NOT AMERICAN. I am anti the CONCEPT: Liberalism. Because OTHER COUNTRIES like RUSSIA for example were NOT FOUNDED on "liberalism" and hence I got BEEF with you.

  • @MrTruthAddict

    And the meaning of liberalism has changed significantly since "The Founding"

    There is nothing logical about accepting an argument solely on the grounds that it is new or that it is old.

    The days when liberalism meant non agression, free trade, and voluntary exchange are long gone.

  • @MrTruthAddict Liberal today and liberal in 1776 meant an entirely different thing. Classical liberalism is closer to what libertarianism is. Would you character a politician that promises to end welfare, decrease taxes, and eliminate regulations for business as liberal?

    And furthermore they were hardly radical. The American system is based on a tradition of constitutionalism that's around 2500 years old. We weren't overthrowing the English, we were defending the system they deviated from.

  • @BurnAllLiberals

    And yet our poll numbers are up and you can't get a single one of your hackneyed candidates to have even a ghost of a chance in the next election.

    I tell you folks, being a blue state these days is fucking satisfying. (Pays for itself too)

  • @tattat44 Fucking satisfying if you don't have a brain. Then again, considering that the educational system in the US has been largely dominated by liberals, it's no surprise that our grades are in the toilet today and no one realizes how shitty things are.

    Oh yeah, and your polls numbers are up because Obama deliberately hijacked what happened in Tuscon for his own purposes. Absolutely the most disgusting move I've seen in American politics.

  • @smiledammit24

    Yes, we are purposely sabotaging education with secret agents and copies of the Communist Manifesto

    And? That's what politicians do. The result is hilarious. Republicans are chasing their own tails, the Tea Party turns out to be a huge burden instead of a boost, and Obama slips into the top slot once again.

    He took an issue, laid down the wedge, and let you impale yourselves on it. A real, honest to god Clinton Switcheroo. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside thinking about it.

  • @tattat44 I didn't suggest libs were purposely sabotaging education. I'm just saying the state of education in the US today is a clear product of leftist policy. The left has been leading education reform in the US for decades, and look where it got us. We spend more money per student in our public schools than any other country and come in 35th in math, reading and science. You're clearly a product of this educational system as your reading comprehension is apparently nonexistent.

  • @smiledammit24

    "Clear product of leftist policy" (Citation needed)

    Specify legislation.

    Funny, because I was under the impression it was the other way 'round. We use a conservative schooling model that was adopted from Prussia during the industrial revolution and is designed to produce FACTORY WORKERS. (Or the service economy equivalent, someone to answer the phones and take orders).

    Our system is broken, yes, but its neither party's fault, its the fault of the system itself.

  • @tattat44 I'll specify one example in 500 characters. Where I'm from (NY) democrats some years ago were pressured by the Teachers Union to enact a "Rubber Room" policy which required the state to pay $20million annually to teachers not yet deemed incompetent (or criminal) enough to fire, but not appropriate to allow around kids. That's $20million that won't go towards a single textbook, computer, or pencil, but instead goes into the pockets of what are usually alleged child molesters.

  • @tattat44 And Obama is *hardly* in the top slot. You have to live in a real fucking Wonderland to think that. This guy has been on the wrong side of every major issue that's come up since he became president. He'll go down in flames in 2012.

    And I'm sorry if my last comment perturbed you, I didn't mean to offend your sensibilities when I said "down in flames." I assure you I was only speaking metaphorically.

  • @smiledammit24

    Alright, shit, I can't go into full troll mode because you're obviously not a douchebag, or an idiot.

    Why don't you point out to me what your beefs with the big O are, and we'll work to the center.

    (I swear, Youtube commenters are leaching my soul)

  • @tattat44 I'm not a frothing at the mouth Republican that finds fault in everything Obama does, but frankly I find his doubletalk distasteful and his person unremarkable. His opponents (including the current Vice President) characterized him as woefully inexperienced. Obama's performance in several high-pressure situations has demonstrated to me that Biden's assessment of his competency was accurate. He said he was the President of "not red, not blue etc." and then went on to demonize people.

  • @smiledammit24

    I was under the impression he performed well, can you elaborate? I'm thinking of health care, the lame duck session and Egypt, all of which I see as being solved in the best way that was possible under the circumstances.

    And can you give me specifics on how he's demonizing people?

  • @tattat44 Health care is going to be a monumental failure, in line with it's forefathers Medicare and Social Security. Anyone who doesn't think those programs are failures doesn't know how to read. In Egypt he let his popularity over there flounder and now a people who once adored us feel a growing animosity. During the Bush presidency North Korea refrained from nuclear testing. After Obama came into office, they started again with almost no response from this White House. The man has no teeth.

  • @tattat44 He snubbed our Israeli allies several times and effectively led them to conclude they shouldn't negotiate with us until his presidency ends. Iran is going to become a nuclear power while this man is still president, and he won't do a damn thing about it. China and us are engaged in a cyberwar---we're losing. There's evidence that the "mystery missile" that flew off the coast of California was from a Chinese submarine, and this president rolls out the red carpet for them. It's unreal.

  • @tattat44 Obama demonized insurance companies for a 2.2% profit margin, which he called "obscene." After a little girl and several others were brutally murdered in Tuscon, he implied it was the rhetoric of the Right that led to this. Meanwhile, the shooter had attended a school that him and Bill Ayers had partly funded. When the people of Arizona took it upon themselves to do what the fed. govt. had failed to do, he outright called them racist, while the law itself had zero racial implications.

  • @smiledammit24

    What? Obama said the exact opposite. He said that we shouldn't point fingers, that is a direct quote.

    No, of course not, I honestly think people jumped on arizona too hard. Its not racist to say that we need to stop illegal immigration, there is a lot of crime associated with it and being a border crossing point.

  • @tattat44 Regardless of what the president said at Tucson, his political machine (and as he always loves to remind us, the buck stops with him) turned Tucson into a political killing when it wasn't, and blamed it on the rhetoric of people who weren't responsible for his own gain (that is why his poll numbers are up). Here's a fun game: compare the Left's reaction of what happened in AZ with their reaction to what Major Hadal Hassan did. Where was that slow-to-accuse mindset with Jared Loughner?

  • @smiledammit24

    Shootings like this did NOT happen a hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. Obama was not implying, as you could be forgiven for believing, that one party or another was responsible for this, but rather the atmosphere was one of de-humanizing politicians, an act that took place on both sides (Notice he didn't specify a party or ideology).

  • @smiledammit24

    Notice however, that the first people to point fingers was not MSNBC, but FOX, who claimed that Jared was killing "One of his own" or some crazy bullshit like that, citing his possession of the communist manifesto.

    But before you respond, no, Jared probably never saw that stupid target poster in his life. At the end of the day J-Lo was just a nutcase. And Sarah Palin was just being her usual, catastrophically ignorant self. Any claims of malicious intent are pretty silly.

  • @smiledammit24

    But there is literally nothing we can do to stop the tide. It would take billions upon billions to wall and man it properly. And even after that, they'll find other ways to get in. We need to crack down on people who are hiring illegally. They wont come here if there aren't any jobs for them to take.

    That, and in the long term we might just want to, oh, I don't know, solve the massive drug war going on in mexico. But thanks to Bush, we don't have any money to pursue that goal.

  • @tattat44 "But there is literally nothing we can do...." Whatever happened to Yes We Can? And Arizona wasn't asking for a wall. What they were asking for was the power to let their police offices enforce a law *that already exists.*

    "Thanks to Bush..." and his successor who managed to quadruple our deficit in less than a year after promising he wouldn't sign a single bill that would add to the deficit.

  • @smiledammit24

    Obama HAD to spend that money. If GMC and the rest of the industry had gone to shit, so would their thousands of suppliers who employ tens of thousands of people.

    Without that increase in the deficit, we would be further in the hole than in the 30's.

    Now, the banking industry... I would have liked to see them fail, but it wouldn't have done any good and all the CEOs responsible would have just pulled the string on their golden parachutes anyway.

  • and now they are owned by China

  • @tattat44 And, please, let's be frank: any practical method that we undertake to actually solve the drug war in Mexico would be interpreted by the Left as some imperialist, fascist, racist, ---ist action and they'd never support it in a million years, even if it was the only solution to the problem.

  • @smiledammit24

    Are you sure? I'm a pinko commie, and I want the brown people to be able to enjoy their own country, not mine.

    I think if it was framed in a humanitarian stance, it would enjoy bipartisan support, if it doesn't already.

    Who knows, maybe Obama will have enough political capital to tackle it in his next term.

  • @BurnAllLiberals

    Do you even know what the fuck a liberal is?

  • America will never have a true return until we do away with these career politicians. Its time for the 3rd party to rise.

  • i saw no signs of double think, i saw the attempt to point them out but ultimate waste of time

  • So what happened to "ending the war immediately" and "no lobbyists in my administration" and "I will not raise taxes during a recession" and "the American people will have 5 days to review bills before I sign them" and "repealing the Patroit Act"? Are you that stupid you don't realize that Obama lied about almost everything during his campaign?

  • @residentzombie: WTF did he ever say that he was going to repealing The Patriot Act, you fear & hate mongering troll!?

    I guess being politically ignorant gives you a free pass to make shit up, eh?!

  • @residentzombie  You forgot the "I will veto any bill that comes to my desk with any earmarks"....then he signs the omnibus bill with about 7000 earmarks...

  • The U.S. is ruined. Fascism will work no

    better here than it did in Mussolini's Italy.

  • Interesting that Orwell could make such succinct observations all while remaining true to the cause of Socialism.

  • @ram0166 there's quite a difference between individualism and socialism. In fact I can't think of anything more opposite. Socialism suggests all are one and individualism suggests all are separate. George Orwell wasn't a socialist. Read the book again, and mainly the Afterword.

  • @Davidpatt123 I don't remember commenting on this and I'm not going to go search for it. It must have been a long time ago. But anyway I would not have said that socialism and individualism have anything in common. I suspect you must be having some knee jerk reaction to some phrase. The other thing is that yes, Orwell was a socialist that's how he became well acquainted with it's evil traits. Had he lived longer I believe he would have abandoned it like Whitaker Chambers.

  • @masterblaster2119 it didn't start with Bush - and Obama just claims he can do it better - which is what all politicians say - the point is not going in the first place.

  • How full of nothing is Obama. Yet is he not also full of everything? He is willing to unleash credit-expansion: his 'change' regarding taxation is not to reduce the burden on us and on those with whom we exchange property, but to use positive tax reform, i.e. increasing taxes and allowing people to keep more of their money for doing certain things...this is sheer barbarism; not just inflationism and fascism, not just accruing govt power but burdening the US with even MORE healthcare regulation!

  • lol miss me yet,,, so funny

  • 5 stars

  • Good job mixing Iraq and Afghanistan up. Obama was always for ending the Iraq war, and for winning the war in Afghanistan. This video is VERY misleading and out of context, anyone that's seen his full state of the union knows so.

    To clear it up for Republicans: Obama is Against War in Iraq, FOR the war in Afghanistan.

  • @BlackKingX They're one and the same.

  • Iraq and Afghanistan are VERY different. It's because people thought they were the same that the Bush administration was able to start a war in Iraq.

  • No. They are not. Al Qaeda doesn't think so. Why should you?

  • You're saying I should believe the same thing as Al Qaeda? I should just eat up the propaganda Bin Laden said to take focus away from Afghanistan and keep the United States main forces in Iraq where they don't pose a threat to Al Qaeda and their allies the Taliban? The Iraqi Insurgents are not the same as Al Qaeda and the Taliban, and they shouldn't be confused with them.

  • @BlackKingX The enemy knows we're fighting them; the change of locale is but another theater of the same war. And no, the Iraqi insurgent really is not different than al Qaeda or the Taliban. Nationality means nothing to these people. In Iraq, we've fought Malaysian Al Qaedas, and Tajik Al Qaeda, and even Kurd Al Qaeda.

  • Al Qaeda doens't exist.

    When you attack any population. Some of those population whose families were killed FIGHT back.

    Those people who LEGALLY fight back, are being labelled as "Al Qaeda"...

    The label exist...

    The "movement" doesn't.

  • Bullshit. It most certainly does.

  • Tell that to the people who fought in Iraq and to the innocent people who lost their lives on 9/11 and their families...i'm sure they'll be happy to hear that...

  • "They're one and the same"

    Only if you lack critical thinking skills.

  • The only way you can come to that conclusion is if you separate one theater from another with totally different agendas, totally different objectives. This is not the case. Both states sponsor and endorse terrorism, and Iraq (a defeated nation) was dangerously obstinate. The enemy, al Qaeda, doesn't think they're two different wars, but merely two different fronts. So, who lacks critical thinking skills?

  • "So, who lacks critical thinking skills? "

    Still you.

    Here's what I said "The label (of alqaeda) exist...The "movement" doesn't. "

    What you were drivelling on like a child with autism was about Al Qaeda's intentions and Government's supposed sponsoring of "terrorism"

    Anyway.

    All you had to do was provide evidence of the existance of alqaeda beyond a shadow of doubt which didn't come from a politician's mouth or through torturing a civilian into "confessing."

    Go go ahead. We're waiting.

  • You're the one who has to prove that Al Qaeda no longer exists. We keep arresting terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan (and Pakistan) all with ties to Al Qaeda, not to mention in places like Malaysia, the Phillipines, and even in France! True, we've dealt them a significant blow over the years (thanks, George Bush!) but that doesn't mean they're at all dead or gone.

    Prove to me that Al Qaeda doesn't exist. You're the one making the assertion.

  • "All ties to Al Qaeda"...

    How do you discover that they have ties to "Al Qaeda"?

  • @napalmsirius Usually when you see Al Qaeda terrorists organizing and training with Iraqi Army elements, that's a pretty good indication. But ME terrorists are often like pro sports athletes going free agent, they move from sect to sect. One year they're with Al Qaeda, and the next their with Hamas. For a vacation they may work with Islamic Jihad the next year.

  • Bullshit answer.

    You claim that "all have ties to Al Qaeda"... so how do you identify that they are from "Al Qaeda" and differentiate from the ones who are legitimately fighting occupation forces(Americans)?

  • @napalmsirius It's only a BS answer to those who can't think and can't recognize the enemy we're fighting for what they are. Go back to your 9/11Truther page.

  • bullshit!! you`ve been brainwashed.

  • Maybe you're the one that has been brainwashed. Ever consider that? I have looked at both sides and have come to the clear conclusion on my own.

  • @BlackKingX Obviously the wrong one.

  • @ThePenWolf Alright. Name one way my conclusion is the wrong conclusion and I'll prove you wrong. :)

  • @BlackKingX First, you think that Afghanistan and Iraq are basically two different wars even though the enemy from the different nationalities share the precise same views - they want to wage war against the infidel and impose a world-wide Islamic caliphate. Your beliefs are tantamount to believing that though the Japanese and the Germans were allies (called the Axis Pact) in WWII, we were fighting two different wars.

  • @ThePenWolf

    a) They are two different wars. This is a fact only denied by social rejects with no knowledge of the goings ons in the world. Bush started the war in Iraq for Oil AND because he wanted to take attention away from the failed war in Afghanistan that failed to catch a single man.

    Your stupid statement does not prove me wrong, it only proves you don't know what you're talking about and are eating up FOX News propaganda.

  • Nonsense. If we really went into Iraq for oil, then we would've put more troops in and around the airfields, we would've kept entire fleets in the Persian Gulf, and we would've escorted ships and convoys carrying oil out of the region. But what do we do? We put more troops in Baghdad and we do not take any oil out of the region but leave it for the Iraqi government (a mistake, really) to administrate.

    Your statements only prove you're a fool.

  • @ThePenWolf

    You're fucking kidding me, aren't you? Do you know how many contractors are/were in Iraq? They're not all private militia's, some of them have set up oil pipelines and US TROOPS were expected to escort and guard the contractors!

  • @BlackKingX What we're dealing with here are Islamic states with gangsters in charge who want to remain in charge, but at the same time want to hold to their beliefs in Jihad as the greatest expression of faith that a Muslim can aspire to. But they can't just declare war outright and officially against us; they'd get their asses handed to them. So they use stateless proxies known as Terrorist sects in order to protract their agenda.

  • @ThePenWolf

    b) Did you just say all Muslims support terrorists, but most are just keeping it a secret? I'm pretty sure that's what that sounded like.

    I don't even have to repute your point because it's so fucking stupid.

  • Obviously, you don't read. And obviously, you don't think.

    Muslims do think that Jihad is the highest expression of faith to Allah. It says so in the Qu'ran. The concept of the "moderate" Muslim by our understanding of the phrase, particularly in that part of the world, doesn't exist because we're dealing with a policy that has existed since the founding of Islam itself. This is how Islam has spread throughout the world; through warfare. Read history.

  • @ThePenWolf

    If there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim, then there's no such thing as a moderate Christian either. If all Muslims have to follow the Qu'ran word for word, then by that same logic all Christians have to follow the Old and New Testaments word by word as well.

  • @BlackKingX I realize that it's reflexive not to believe our government about this enemy. After all, our government is untrustworthy and incompetent. However, this threat is very real, and right now we have an administration who doesn't treat it as such, who think it's not a military matter but a civil and legal one, and hasn't got the mindset to adequately address the situation.

  • @ThePenWolf

    c) So are you saying the United States justice system isn't fit to handle these criminals in court, and only a guy in a uniform with a bucket of water can? That sounds a little like Martial law to me.

    What do you have against trying these bastards in the same city that they attacked over 8 years ago? That sounds like poetic justice to me, and that's something I can live with.

  • c) They're not criminals. They're illegal enemy combatants. By rights, they have no rights whatsoever.

    This is war. And our justice system is meant to protect the rights of the accused. But, in this case, the "accused" are people who have freely admitted to their activities, but more than that they've decided to wage clandestine warfare without uniform. The purpose of the uniform is to protect the civilian populace by clearly pointing out that that person is a legal combatant.

  • @ThePenWolf

    It wasn't a war when they first attacked, the first attacks were terrorist attacks. There have been many other terrorists before Al Qaeda, they went through the Justice System, why should this terrorist organization be treated differently than those ones?

  • @BlackKingX There were at least eight separate attacks both on us and Western European nations.

    True, Bubba wanted the Blind Sheik tried, but that was a huge mistake. All that did was embolden the enemy.

    Why should this terrorist organization be treated differently? Well, when you grow up, maybe you'll understand why. This is War.

  • A military tribunal will not just protect the rights of the accused (actually, far better than the civil justice system in many ways), but protect our ability to wage war by keeping our methods secret from our enemies.

    It is the height of stupidity to try KSM and his cronies in a civil court of law, and your god Obama has realized it. In fact, he's done something horrendously incompetent (lots, actually), he's prejudiced the case and by rights the case will be thrown out, freeing KSM.

  • @ThePenWolf

    Wow. You. Are. A Fucking. Retard. Enough said.

  • @BlackKingX Genius! A product of our great public education system!

  • @ThePenWolf

    You might be a product of the US public education system(Unless you dropped out, which it seems).

    But I'm a Canadian. :)

  • @BlackKingX Even worse.

  • i just viewed your vid x2...I hadn/t fully appreciated it on my first viewing: THIS IS A BRILLIANTLY DONE LITTLE GEM!! BRAVO AGAIN.

  • I love it! Problem is, it's terrifying! There is something WRONG with this man.(and with those who either let him get away with sinister such blatant HOGWASH, or who are part of something infinitely more sinister. Obama is either a deranged madman, or he's evil.,,with an agenda!.

  • Beautiful expose of how how STUPID THE AMERIKAN PUBLIC has become!

    To see this guy (like the guys before him doing the same, Boy George, Klinokeo, CIA Bush, etc...) getting away with it all, really reminds me that we allow FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE TO VOTE around here...

    How about just male property owners?

    I'll bet things would change a little then, no?

    Where is the expose of the Republikrat double-think? I know they're out there!

  • @brockal There's plenty of Republikrat double-think they aren't in power anymore. Besides there has been a fundamental shift in the bullshit government has been pulling lately. It's bigger, far more dangerous, an frankly everyone is nervously acknowledging the truth the fact is our governments (plural) are no longer a Democratically Chosen Republics/Parliaments and they are becoming something from a bad sci-fi movie.

  • I can not believe winged70bbody2 what a hateful person. They have no right using the N word. I will keep that person in my prayers. winged70 is a sick and wrong man or woman. You must be a very unhappy person to be so hateful.

  • hes talking about 2 differant wars. he wants to be in afganistan but get out of iraq. he hated bailing out the banks but did it because he knew it was nessicary. he is talking about bugeting, which is when you still spend money but only on the most important things. he says lots of americans are dissapointed in their government but he is still hopefull that things can change. if you saw the whole thing not just clips you would see this video is bullcrap.

  • davetheledge1

    "Obama experienced a fatal spiritual wound when 666 shared his victory news front page headlines with him"

    Obama shared the headline news with the Lottery results the same day as his victory news made front page

    reveal this to the world

  • what are you talking about?

  • davetheledge1

    This is a news issue that must be spread very fast because it's just too incredible

    Your question is what's this about

    When obama's victory was news and on the front page headlines that was all fine (his life's pinnacle moment) but that was really ruined, wasted and destroyed

    This is not known

    Why was it destroyed for Obama ?

    A freak incredible (heaven ?) reason

    Lottery draw 666 happened that day sharing the front page with him

  • any other series of numbers was JUST as likely to appear ass 666, but if 573 had appererd no-one would care. its just coincidence, so get over it.

  • @davetheledge1 diamonds are just stones but people don't like other stones

    they just like diamonds

    saying all numbers are the same as 666 is very strange

    it's eerie

    have u thought of seeing a doctor ?

    saying 666 is an ordinary number is just like the Addams family thinking being vampires is no big problem

    u'r scary

    Do u say "I love the Antichrist"?

  • 666 IS just as likely to come up as any other series of 3 numbers. if 666 had come up in the lottery in for instance a muslim country no-one would find it exeptional, but because of religion and culture people find that number freaky. mabye theres a country where 462 is considered the devils number, but if that were to appear in the lottery results in the US no-one would care.

  • davetheledge1

    u don't understand it

    the exceptional thing is not the number 666 but the coincidence of it being drawn of all days the day Obama's victory was in the headlines

    now u got it

    he knew and all the people of Illinois also looked at the front page lottery result and said "Obama's the Antichrist"

    reveal this now to the world fast

  • the lottery has been going on for so long that eventually 666 was going to come up sometime or another. and it was going to share front page news with someone because thats how newspapers work. would you be saying that whoever the unluky person who shared front page news with that number was the anti-christ? if nelson mandela happened to be on the front page that paticular day would you be saying he was the anti-christ?

  • davetheledge it's a collision course between 2 things the number 666 (in any form) and the world's most powerful man Mandela was not candidate for that It had to be a US president Mandela why ? The Antichrist could have been white There's no hatred I like obama why not ? He's just got bad luck but 666 shows an evil person But we must respect all beings no matter how evil they are we must never strip people of dignity Being the Antichrist or not
  • but if obama had happened to be the president of indonesia and 666 had come up in the indonesian lottery when he won an election it would have just been another lottery number because most of that country are muslims. mabye there is somewhere where 678 is considered the antichrists number, if that had come up in the US lottery would it have made obama the anti-christ?

  • davetheledge is this a problem to you ? Obama is part christian illinois is christian in christian bible 666 is bad the antichrist is a christian thing for Buddhists there is no antichrist but obama still is the antichrist in illinois u see ? buddhists call a person like obama "the demon-king" they have a prophecy for that in the book called Kalachakra Tantra every religion has it's own apocalypse and they all happen now with obama as the bad guy
  • but youve gotta admit that the number 666 was bound to appear in the lottery eventually. if mccain had one the election that day would that make him the anti-christ? illinois isnt christian. it has people of lots of differant religion in it. its part of a country with a seperation between religion and state.

  • davetheledge1

    see my 11 channels ?

    answering ur question:

    yes, anyone with that number 666 drawn on that day of the victory news making headlines (like it happened to obama) would be the antichrist

    it's nothing to do with obama's colour, or political links, ore religious choices.

    It's once he's shown to be the Antichrist that one can start judging if he's good or bad

    Seeing he hides everything and shows a fake appearance how to judge him ?

  • davetheledge1

    seeing i convinced u now don't lose a second, spread this far and wide to the whole world non stop 24 24

  • davetheledge1

    DEATH SENTENCE

    Obama forged birth certificate, frauded top nuclear atomic secrets

    World's topmost crime ever, he's history's worst, greatest criminal

    Courts judge that crime, second to none

    Reveal this news worldwide everywhere in media, to all

    Numbers 666 revealed him when victory news made headlines

    He was shown as Antichrist (Bible: "Fatal Head-Wound")

    Reveal his death-wound to all the world: He is SATAN

    ...ANTICHRIST WE SEE YOU

  • .....or mabye it was coincidence because somebody was gunna share front page news with that number coming up?

  • Dave, while the first of your points, may be correct. The rest are all wrong...

    All we've been hearing, was how The Bush Bail out was bad, it was horrible... It's all Bush's fault!... except, Obama, voted for it. and then passed his Stimulus package, which so far, has only been really stimulating confusion on job numbers.

    And the most important things? Hello, have you read last years Omnibus Spending bill? Or this years? There are many things that are not important on those lists