excellent video...i just suggest that you dont try to catch yourself with your free hand after you have thrown your leg over...i know you had limited room on the mat...but you would never want to give up any control because you are give up such a dominate position to possibly a bad one...so you would want to take every lil advantage you get
Great new martial arts site called SELECTMYMARTIALART.C O M with free club listings and exciting information about all things martial arts from podcasts to forums this is a great place to see all things martial arts! find our facebook page too just type selectmymartialart into the search facebook engine! thank you fellow martial arts fans!
You should always avoid the fight where possible. I study wing chun and RDT and my instructor always tells us that the best fight is the one avoided. Why fight when you don't have to? The whole idea of martial arts is learning self control, not just so you can walk down the street and pound on the first guy that insults you.
@isbellmatt yes self control is a major part in it.But martial arts was made for fighting only in self defence.Any decent human being neverminf martial artist would never hit someone due to an insult.Martial arts i self defence and if a fight seems imminent and you have sufficient training why not take the guy on?its that specific reason you have been taught your martial art and it would be stupid not to use your knowledge.
I was just rolling with my mate the other day ( who knows nothing of jiu-jitsu) and I couldn't pull off a decent rolling away arm bar, which used to be a signature of mine. Granted he weighs about 230 and I'm around 165. It just goes to show you sometimes you cant always lock in that submission your attempting. If its a street fight and hes much bigger, I would encourage the Shoot, but work in the strikes to the chin and maintain side control at least, its harder to reverse
@PrimoSkeeter1904 First of all you should get away from the fight entirely unless you have to defend someone else and if you shoot a big guy and he sprawls you are screwed i would suggest a lot of low kicks and hip shoves with your heel to maintain distance and get your strikes in as an opportunity arises
i don't think you should avoid the fight. What if some big guy says "You wanna go, you wanna go?!" If you're already trained and know your moves, I say bring it on.
what do you do in a real situation when some one bites a chunk of flesh out of your leg? their arm may be broke but YOU HAVE A CHUNK OF YOUR LEG MISSING, the reason i say this is i did that to some one sparing and they bit me... and hard enough to make me let go... i know you cant do that in a cage, but if your not, thats the best way to get out of it.
@taylorhg lift your leg some and smash him in the the nose several times but not to high as to let him get space and roll out or sit up. I had someone do that to me in a street fight and what i did is moved my leg on top of his head to under his head while maintaining arm control, get mount push the arm across his throat and do a ground triangle
@wondeguy on either side of the chin there are two nerves that protrude a little those are the two areas where knockouts occur besides back of head blows and liver shots. But it doesn't matter what matters is learning how to defend yourself from being struck and how to escape bad situations, bottom line is street fights aren't cool when someone is seriously trying to hurt or kill you it's better to escape than to incapacitate them.
I heard he could even dodge bullets, because to him they were slow. Like neo in the matrix you know. Of course they couldn't actually film that back then, because at that time they didn't have high speed cameras like we have now.
Hmm, I wonder if Chuck Norris could do that as well.... hmm...
If you do not know the gospel of the water, you are not saved, for Jesus said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God" (John 3:5). If you want to know and save your own life, go to
d way u train is d way u react.mor u learn n practis beter 4 u.4 does who r not in to this kind of thing y watch it.u havnt got clue wot u talkin bout.for does who r then u keep learnin n peactesin diferent ech n stile
whats with all the fighting??? it doesnt matter what style of fighting you do.....in a life or death situation you will always resort to whatever basic fighting skills you have! it doesn't matter if your a black belt in jiu jitsu or a white belt in kickboxing its all about control and skill! obv if a guy has a gun you will want to get close enough to disarm them or run for your life! it all depends on the situation
And to be more specific, the guy who claims that if someone hit him in the balls he would jab their eye and bite their nose off.....right. I've seen a guy pass out 'cause a country boy kicked him in the nuts. I've also seen guys tough it out and get back up after a groin shot but very much diminished. Sport combatants will always be open to "cheap shots" because they fight within the confine of rules, that's just fact not opinion. Let's imagine two opponents(one armed?) now what? armbar?choke?
but youre fighting with a live oppenent so he knows body mechanics, and if a muay thai guy want to hit someone in the nuts he can do it better then anyone else. A wrestler can tie you up and hit you in the nuts as much times as you want. And your last statement one person is armed, yeah duh, the guy is at an advantage obviously. if i carry a gun obviously im more dangerous, whats that got to do with anything.
My point was, actually, that you fight the way you train. When you train for sport, in an emergency confrontation, your neural pathways are set to fight that way. If you train to maim or kill, guess how you'll react in an emergency situation. Secondly, muay thai rear kick is a horrible kick. How many times did Bas Ruten knock out guys with a rear cross then they tried that kick on him? Lastly, against 2 opponents, it must be automatic, no thinking, max damage training or sport training?
a muay thai guy can kill someone easy in a life and death situation. same with a guy who practices bjj and same with a wrestler. a wrestler can drop someones head on the concrete fast, he can pin him and smash his head on the concrete. you dont need exotic martial art training that doesnt work in mma(sport) but falsly claims to all of a sudden work in life and death situation, and claims to be too deadly for mma. a muay thai who is an expert in kneeing can knee in the balls.
by the way a fight doesnt look like a bruce lee movie, and there were plently of muay thai fighters that would have beat bruce lee, in a second, and there were wrestlers that would break him in half. bruce lee was a movie star, who could kick the average person on the street, but dont think he was superman. there was a reason he never stepped in the ring with a muay thai fighter. people whose martial arts dont show up in mma start saying there techniques are too deadly blah blah blah,
Uuuhh, Yeah ok. Well, I've been in enough fights to know the difference. That's why I can comment on it. Most people, I won't mention any names, just talk as if they know what they're talking about. Sooner or later though, it catches up to you and you get caught, then taken away. And please don't comment on Bruce, you're too young to know who and what he was. I can tell just by your comment, it displays ignorance of the facts surrounding the man and his life. I was there so I know what he was.
actually when people fought in pancreation in ancient greece, it was the same moves they have now. it was a combination of wrestling jiu jitsu and boxing and muay thai, they even have wrestling moves on the tombs of egypt. the reason is if people actually fight you will see mma appear. even in tribes who have lost contact with the outside world if they fight you will see the same moves. wrestling, boxing, jiu jitu, and muay thai, judo are the foundation,
Pankration became pancratium in Rome. It was taught to the gladiators who were later abolished by Theodosius the first. In Greece it was a sport, though one man died from a chokehold even though he won the match,go figure. In Rome it was to the death.That's as real as it gets. It's also why you don't see Bruce's art in sport. It was designed to destroy the opponent as quickly as possible. If you add rules, it's not the art it was designed to be.
Also, the arts that you named did not exist in Greece or Rome at the time. Pankration resembled boxing crossed with wrestling. We also know from preserved writings the exact techniques they were using. But MMA does closely resemble it.
Why does everyone believe that an arm will break during an armbar? Hyperextend yes, break I have yet to see. Even CroCop refused to tap out when he was barred and the guy had one hell of a bar on him. In fact he kept trying harder because CroCop wouldn't quit, ref had to actually stop the fight . He got up, arm ok, hurt a bit but not broken. There's reality and then there's belief, know the difference. For example biting during an arm bar it becomes a contest of who can take the most pain.
ok you are an idiot, and you obviously do not understand how the mechanics of a body actually work, let me put you in an arm bar buddy and show you that your arm would snap if i used only 20 percent of my strength
Been there and done that already. In fact I showed the guy the weakness of the arm bar. It works in competition great, however in a real life fight against an opponent that knows his shit, your gonna end up maimed.
Apparently you do not know the mechanics of the human body. Depending on how limber your arm is will achieve hyperextension on the arm and possible tearing of the ligaments not breakage. There are those out there referred to as "double jointed" , try an arm bar on one of them, lol.
first of all... in your comment above you were talking about competition fighting so you cant bring up real life situations now, and besides you've probably seen alot of videos of street fights, how many of them have armbars in them?? none that i've seen!!
second... the fact is, if you put enough pressure on it it will break. you dont make any sense..
Huh? If you notice most of my comments are about real fighting and how it has rules. Anyway, I don't watch videos of fighting, however, I have been in enough real fights to know what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately, the state will also take notice when you fight.
The arm will break huh, where? The elbow is a joint not a bone. Bones can break, joints dislocate. Do I still not make sense?
The elbow is a joint formed by the ulna, radius and the humerus bones. The tri-bone joint is held together by Ulnar Collateral, Radial Collateral and the Annular Ligaments. Fully extended elbow ranges from 180 to 190 degrees. Hyper-extension starts at 5+ degrees & may cause the trochelar notch of the ulna to break or a fracture to the radial head. Soft tissue damage includes tearing of the ligaments. Ed demonstrated 1 of at least 6 armbars that work in the ring and in the street.
Ok, first let's get your info straightened out. Dislocation of the elbow(posterior) begins between +8 to +17 degrees. This is accompanied by rupture of the anterior capsule and the medial collateral ligament(medial epicondyle), the lateral collateral and the brachialis are usually spared. The most common fracture in extreme dislocation(usually from blunt trauma) is the radial neck or coroniod process of the ulna. The double jointed have misaligned joints and can hyperextend +20 degrees in some.
Secondly, it may work in the ring yes, but not always in the street. Remember, people bite. I've seen fingers bitten off, a nose bitten off and also a chunk of a calf come off(from a guy trying to armbar someone), in fact the guy trying the armbar started to scream in pain and finally let go then was knocked out. My own personal experience, they never fight fair, I've been stabbed(right arm), hit with a baseball bat(left shin) and an iron bar(knocked out bottom tooth) from friends jumping in.
Yeah that was interesting, however, if you were paying attention, did you realize how many openings he exposed while he was trying to aquire the armbar? Especially his groin in the beginning of the fight? And he was still open to being bitten. And, he was picked up but not slammed down correctly on the back of the skull. He was fighting an unknowledgeable and inexperienced opponent. Like I said, I have seen it with my own eyes and experienced it myself. "Fisty cuffs" is not street smart.
Okay. Your experience. Post a verified vid of you fighting full contact am or pro. Lets see you in action. We've posted vid on YT. BTW for every strike/submission there is a counter- yin/yang. You get hit/grabbed/attacked. Thats what starts a fight. In the very few street fights I've unfortunately been in, I've been hit, kicked, butted or bit. I was lucky enough to prevailed through training and fitness. I've seen your yt page. Just old Lee film. I look forward to seeing your fight video.
Um... I'm over 60 years old now lol. I grew up in a time when everyone carried switchblades, stilletos, folding razors, chains, pipes and baseball bats. Around the 70's gun use came about. I learned boxing at age five and Kyokushin Karate at age ten(earned 3rd degree). My buddy Phil B. taught me Jun Fan. I also know Tim Tacket and Bob Bremer(JKD). What I learned in all that time is you hit IMMEDIATELY, the most vunerable targets. Don't give them any chance. But fighting also landed me in jail.
Yeah, you've got a point on mentioning the possibility of being bitten. That's another reason to don't clinch just like dirty boxing or thai... For the clinch, for example, you should clinch and headbutting at same time. For an armbar, I guess maybe you should be wearing shoes and use the leg next to the head to trap the foe's mouth with your heels... Maybe a cowboy's spur boots would do a great job for that task. What do you think, autohckr?
I don't think spurs are a feasible option(unless you are a cowboy lol), that is if you are serious in your question. However, if you use the heel to trap the mouth the opponent will simply turn in toward the arm and nullify the hold because his shoulder is not being held down. Also, I have seen guys lift the leg up over their head and roll out. Some armbars are better than others, so experiment. The best is when the opponent cannot use a counter(access your groin, bite etc.)
Starts to bite or is biting already? If you can withstand the pain then yeah crank it up. Apparently you have never been bitten. Let's say you are facing a maniac who says he will bite your nose off no matter what happens to him. What do you think the chances are that he will succeed? Pretty low or relatively high? You may break him up pretty bad but if he is determined enough he will bite your nose off. So, you crank, he keeps biting, one of you will have to give. Who will it be?
you're acting like he's in a position of power which he isnt. you're positioned to break bones and all hes in position to do is bite. once you break that arm the fights over, hes done for.
Ok, you hyperextend my arm. Now you think the fight is over. While you are not paying attention. You feel me hit you a couple of times. It takes a moment before you realize you have just been stabbed multiple times. I tell you from experience that is exactly what it feels like, a hit. The fight is not over and apparently I was not done for. I always have a blade on me, unfortunately, you didn't see it and now it's too late. All you eliminated was one threat and didn't pay attention to the other.
It's obvious you have not been in many or most likely, any fights. Adrenaline does weird things to people. Two of my buddies were stabbed and they thought just like you.
thats why you break the arm and get away as fast as possible. breaking the arm gives you an out. i've been in fights and i train mma. i dont think you know what its like to have your arm extended that far but id love to show you sometime
Not really, however, it is a reality, people carry knives. I know, i have been stabbed, he was aiming for my neck but I put my arm up and it went through my forearm, then I pulled it out and he ran away lol. It was a stiletto type of blade, still numb to this day in that area, lucky it missed the big tendons. I carry a knife out of habit, it has come in handy many a time(in the mountains, camping, cutting a hose,rope. etc.) I don't look to use it in a fight if that is what u mean.
I was not being serious im stating that if you have to use a knife that your not such a man your self and I am sad to here what happened sad people think that way
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I've even seen freak sicko who tried to piss or throw poop into ppl. The cowboy's boots is really hard to happen, but in case of personal defense nothing could be better than some kind of tool, like a piece of pipe, a chain, a bat, a knife... Or even a gun. I think that in case of close clinched combat, u just gotta throw a fast headbutt and back off, avoiding to be biten, spit, crapped or even having ur balls, face or joints hit.
I'm glad you mentioned that. Most of the time it's the thing you don't see that gets you, especially a blade. Your busy trying to grapple and don't notice the knife he just pulled out and then there are the friends who jump in.
MMA does not teach one how to avoid attacks to the vunerable areas because of rules and regulations. You must know how to attack those places as well as know how to defend those exact same areas against attack. That's the point I keep trying to tell people. Poop? lol.
I enjoyed your video, If you need help getting your video exposed i use a service at Tubeviews . Net They offer views, ratings, and comments. They helped my video get ranked on the first page
That''s be hard with some real serious fighters though. Like the ones who wanna break your arm lol. If they got a grip on your hand, you could end up twisting your wrist or your forearm.
Also, the arm bar has served me well in alot of tournaments. Not until you've executed a few well placed arm bars do you realise how good it actually is.
derekmcgoldrick you realise that this is slowed down right, step by step?
in reality you'd do this faster than normal and the opponent wont exactly SEE it coming because it would happen in a split second.
And what you suggest with the use of both arms is dangerious, the opponent can most probably feel the weight you are putting in the one place and all they need to do is focus on that as a weakness and use where the weight isnt to gain advantage
The arm bar is so predictable too. If the guy on the bottom sees it he can start to roll 180deg clock-wise (from his left to right) to dodge the armbar and make it to his knees or feet. Expert Village my arse!
All that space and he assists him off the mat with a small lift and why have one hand on the mat. Best way to do this is to use both hands or forearms (left forearm to neck is good distraction) on opponent then while still applying weight slide knee over. There should be no unnecessary lifting or space as this demo shows. Expert Village my arse!
actually groin shots are overrated in the sense that in an actual fight it may not as easy to pull off as pple assume... also an enrage opponent might not be affected by groin shots at all, or it might just made him more aggressive...
basically put, if you are thinking your game plan is down to a few limited techniques like eye gouges and groin shots... you're in trouble if you face a dude expecting all that and knowing how to defend them... there is no subsitute for a well-rounded defence.
Even in a street fight, the time it takes to break the arm is less than the time it would take for one to take a truly effective groin shot. That is if your a bad ass black belt like me who can tap out the average street punk in about 3 seconds.
U people disgust me. Arm bars worked in feudal Japan and they will continue to work forever
MMA is as close to it gets to a real fight as far as professionals are involved. In other words any average Mixed Martial Artist will hand a "good" street fighter his ass. Because there is no such thing as a good street fighter. They're just thugs with no talent who like to pretend they're bad ass.
you must pay attention to the opponents right arm, because he can hit your balls hard with it, so i am not convinced in a self defense context. it is more like judo
where could he punch his balls? in the start he has the guy's arm trapped between his leg and his body, then the next part you're supposed to do quickly so basicly you go from side-control to armbar, the transition is fast, then in the armbar you have his elbow hyper-extended... he isn't gonna be able to punch you in the nuts, & even if he managed it you could just break his arm as payback.
Practically when people are fighting particularly on the streets and are being trounced they barely keep a balanced head the adrenaline is flowing too quickly. If there is an extremely level headed fighter and hes on the receiving end of this technique the least to do is grab the balls that too if he has a lot of flexibility and some experience and also he can withstand the pain. Punching in this scenario wont work 90% of the time. Only with the other guy's sloppiness you can get that chance
How To Stop his Arms from moving when hes down there!
forestgriffin95 6 months ago
nice feet sir
Pink74UK 9 months ago
Arm bar always wins. Very lethal move :)
CabalisticSoul 1 year ago
excellent video...i just suggest that you dont try to catch yourself with your free hand after you have thrown your leg over...i know you had limited room on the mat...but you would never want to give up any control because you are give up such a dominate position to possibly a bad one...so you would want to take every lil advantage you get
jtbullfitghter 1 year ago
lol it' s doesn't mather what style it is. it mather what person is .....
gaske100 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Great new martial arts site called SELECTMYMARTIALART.C O M with free club listings and exciting information about all things martial arts from podcasts to forums this is a great place to see all things martial arts! find our facebook page too just type selectmymartialart into the search facebook engine! thank you fellow martial arts fans!
Nicolloydwombles 1 year ago
wow i wasted ten years on ju jitsu for nothing, I couldve been world champion in a minute thirty-two thanks to expert village
SpiderShane1 1 year ago 9
Head arm control is so not-J
jburtonarmbar 1 year ago
Yeah but shouldnt you now you can pound that guys face in give you a piece of mind its just like i know i can knock you out why waste it on them
GuitarLegendov96 1 year ago
You should always avoid the fight where possible. I study wing chun and RDT and my instructor always tells us that the best fight is the one avoided. Why fight when you don't have to? The whole idea of martial arts is learning self control, not just so you can walk down the street and pound on the first guy that insults you.
isbellmatt 1 year ago
@isbellmatt dont look at it as a fight look at it as a competition
dallas420VA 1 year ago
@isbellmatt yeah but you study wing chun...
Chickensteak28 1 year ago
@isbellmatt yes self control is a major part in it.But martial arts was made for fighting only in self defence.Any decent human being neverminf martial artist would never hit someone due to an insult.Martial arts i self defence and if a fight seems imminent and you have sufficient training why not take the guy on?its that specific reason you have been taught your martial art and it would be stupid not to use your knowledge.
AidenReilly1 1 year ago
sloppy ass arm bar.
I was just rolling with my mate the other day ( who knows nothing of jiu-jitsu) and I couldn't pull off a decent rolling away arm bar, which used to be a signature of mine. Granted he weighs about 230 and I'm around 165. It just goes to show you sometimes you cant always lock in that submission your attempting. If its a street fight and hes much bigger, I would encourage the Shoot, but work in the strikes to the chin and maintain side control at least, its harder to reverse
PrimoSkeeter1904 2 years ago
@PrimoSkeeter1904 First of all you should get away from the fight entirely unless you have to defend someone else and if you shoot a big guy and he sprawls you are screwed i would suggest a lot of low kicks and hip shoves with your heel to maintain distance and get your strikes in as an opportunity arises
kungjew91 2 years ago
Of course you should try to avoid a fight boy.
I would suggest you grow some hair on your nutts before you suggest anything else.
PrimoSkeeter1904 2 years ago
i don't think you should avoid the fight. What if some big guy says "You wanna go, you wanna go?!" If you're already trained and know your moves, I say bring it on.
stormchaser34869 1 year ago
@PrimoSkeeter1904 nobody cares well maybe somebody but no one does
mikepownzall 1 year ago
what do you do in a real situation when some one bites a chunk of flesh out of your leg? their arm may be broke but YOU HAVE A CHUNK OF YOUR LEG MISSING, the reason i say this is i did that to some one sparing and they bit me... and hard enough to make me let go... i know you cant do that in a cage, but if your not, thats the best way to get out of it.
taylorhg 2 years ago
@taylorhg lift your leg some and smash him in the the nose several times but not to high as to let him get space and roll out or sit up. I had someone do that to me in a street fight and what i did is moved my leg on top of his head to under his head while maintaining arm control, get mount push the arm across his throat and do a ground triangle
kungjew91 2 years ago
Everyone here does have some experience in street fight ? So can someone tell me the best area to hit ?
wondeguy 2 years ago
@wondeguy on either side of the chin there are two nerves that protrude a little those are the two areas where knockouts occur besides back of head blows and liver shots. But it doesn't matter what matters is learning how to defend yourself from being struck and how to escape bad situations, bottom line is street fights aren't cool when someone is seriously trying to hurt or kill you it's better to escape than to incapacitate them.
kungjew91 2 years ago
so where exactly are those nerves?
InsanityType66 2 years ago
i don't think it matters, as long as your opponent starts screaming in pain
stormchaser34869 1 year ago
im just saying that you wont know until you're in that situation. ive been there before.
dylan134 2 years ago
that's cute.... i remember my first fight....
imagesk8r6969 2 years ago
all have to for that arm bar is roll in to it and pull your arm out
cazyblood3 2 years ago
Does anyone remember the Frank Mir and Tim Sylvia Fight? Frank Mir broke Sylvia's Arm? i think the armbar works very well in a mma fight
jcub264 2 years ago
learn to spell plz doddzy thx.
Confusedzz 2 years ago
dese tutorials suckkk .... u try it den it works den u forget bout it .... and wen yur ina a fyt u wudn be tinkin of it
doddzy2009 2 years ago
expertvillage
Hot Megan Fox Sex Tape. Free At: mynewvids;com
alexachung1 2 years ago
haha i agree with you dude, he's an idiot for thinking that
irfan101 2 years ago
I heard he could even dodge bullets, because to him they were slow. Like neo in the matrix you know. Of course they couldn't actually film that back then, because at that time they didn't have high speed cameras like we have now.
Hmm, I wonder if Chuck Norris could do that as well.... hmm...
gabbah79 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
If you do not know the gospel of the water, you are not saved, for Jesus said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God" (John 3:5). If you want to know and save your own life, go to
bjnewlife (.) org
Enaragon 2 years ago
GLADIATORS!!! had swords and axes lol, know Guns and Granades XD
AssKicker411 2 years ago
d way u train is d way u react.mor u learn n practis beter 4 u.4 does who r not in to this kind of thing y watch it.u havnt got clue wot u talkin bout.for does who r then u keep learnin n peactesin diferent ech n stile
ogi19841984 2 years ago
haha i like how calm he said that, "if he doesnt tap ill break his arm."
EF3Si 2 years ago
lmao i noticed that too.
Chris13orees7 2 years ago
whats with all the fighting??? it doesnt matter what style of fighting you do.....in a life or death situation you will always resort to whatever basic fighting skills you have! it doesn't matter if your a black belt in jiu jitsu or a white belt in kickboxing its all about control and skill! obv if a guy has a gun you will want to get close enough to disarm them or run for your life! it all depends on the situation
zippo28121 2 years ago
And to be more specific, the guy who claims that if someone hit him in the balls he would jab their eye and bite their nose off.....right. I've seen a guy pass out 'cause a country boy kicked him in the nuts. I've also seen guys tough it out and get back up after a groin shot but very much diminished. Sport combatants will always be open to "cheap shots" because they fight within the confine of rules, that's just fact not opinion. Let's imagine two opponents(one armed?) now what? armbar?choke?
autohckr 2 years ago
well spoken, i also get pissed when someone says" if it where on the streets " .... pride and glory only comes to those who embrace it!
sebbe302 2 years ago
but youre fighting with a live oppenent so he knows body mechanics, and if a muay thai guy want to hit someone in the nuts he can do it better then anyone else. A wrestler can tie you up and hit you in the nuts as much times as you want. And your last statement one person is armed, yeah duh, the guy is at an advantage obviously. if i carry a gun obviously im more dangerous, whats that got to do with anything.
Ilikepeaches1 2 years ago
My point was, actually, that you fight the way you train. When you train for sport, in an emergency confrontation, your neural pathways are set to fight that way. If you train to maim or kill, guess how you'll react in an emergency situation. Secondly, muay thai rear kick is a horrible kick. How many times did Bas Ruten knock out guys with a rear cross then they tried that kick on him? Lastly, against 2 opponents, it must be automatic, no thinking, max damage training or sport training?
autohckr 2 years ago
a muay thai guy can kill someone easy in a life and death situation. same with a guy who practices bjj and same with a wrestler. a wrestler can drop someones head on the concrete fast, he can pin him and smash his head on the concrete. you dont need exotic martial art training that doesnt work in mma(sport) but falsly claims to all of a sudden work in life and death situation, and claims to be too deadly for mma. a muay thai who is an expert in kneeing can knee in the balls.
Ilikepeaches1 2 years ago
by the way a fight doesnt look like a bruce lee movie, and there were plently of muay thai fighters that would have beat bruce lee, in a second, and there were wrestlers that would break him in half. bruce lee was a movie star, who could kick the average person on the street, but dont think he was superman. there was a reason he never stepped in the ring with a muay thai fighter. people whose martial arts dont show up in mma start saying there techniques are too deadly blah blah blah,
Ilikepeaches1 2 years ago
Uuuhh, Yeah ok. Well, I've been in enough fights to know the difference. That's why I can comment on it. Most people, I won't mention any names, just talk as if they know what they're talking about. Sooner or later though, it catches up to you and you get caught, then taken away. And please don't comment on Bruce, you're too young to know who and what he was. I can tell just by your comment, it displays ignorance of the facts surrounding the man and his life. I was there so I know what he was.
autohckr 2 years ago
There's no real fighting in the ring today. Remember the last time real fighting was placed in the ring? they were called GLADIATORS.
autohckr 2 years ago
actually when people fought in pancreation in ancient greece, it was the same moves they have now. it was a combination of wrestling jiu jitsu and boxing and muay thai, they even have wrestling moves on the tombs of egypt. the reason is if people actually fight you will see mma appear. even in tribes who have lost contact with the outside world if they fight you will see the same moves. wrestling, boxing, jiu jitu, and muay thai, judo are the foundation,
Ilikepeaches1 2 years ago
Pankration became pancratium in Rome. It was taught to the gladiators who were later abolished by Theodosius the first. In Greece it was a sport, though one man died from a chokehold even though he won the match,go figure. In Rome it was to the death.That's as real as it gets. It's also why you don't see Bruce's art in sport. It was designed to destroy the opponent as quickly as possible. If you add rules, it's not the art it was designed to be.
autohckr 2 years ago
Also, the arts that you named did not exist in Greece or Rome at the time. Pankration resembled boxing crossed with wrestling. We also know from preserved writings the exact techniques they were using. But MMA does closely resemble it.
autohckr 2 years ago
hes a machine :) lol
RACVIDEOS 2 years ago
Why does everyone believe that an arm will break during an armbar? Hyperextend yes, break I have yet to see. Even CroCop refused to tap out when he was barred and the guy had one hell of a bar on him. In fact he kept trying harder because CroCop wouldn't quit, ref had to actually stop the fight . He got up, arm ok, hurt a bit but not broken. There's reality and then there's belief, know the difference. For example biting during an arm bar it becomes a contest of who can take the most pain.
autohckr 2 years ago
ok you are an idiot, and you obviously do not understand how the mechanics of a body actually work, let me put you in an arm bar buddy and show you that your arm would snap if i used only 20 percent of my strength
irfan101 2 years ago
Been there and done that already. In fact I showed the guy the weakness of the arm bar. It works in competition great, however in a real life fight against an opponent that knows his shit, your gonna end up maimed.
Apparently you do not know the mechanics of the human body. Depending on how limber your arm is will achieve hyperextension on the arm and possible tearing of the ligaments not breakage. There are those out there referred to as "double jointed" , try an arm bar on one of them, lol.
autohckr 2 years ago
first of all... in your comment above you were talking about competition fighting so you cant bring up real life situations now, and besides you've probably seen alot of videos of street fights, how many of them have armbars in them?? none that i've seen!!
second... the fact is, if you put enough pressure on it it will break. you dont make any sense..
irfan101 2 years ago
Huh? If you notice most of my comments are about real fighting and how it has rules. Anyway, I don't watch videos of fighting, however, I have been in enough real fights to know what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately, the state will also take notice when you fight.
The arm will break huh, where? The elbow is a joint not a bone. Bones can break, joints dislocate. Do I still not make sense?
autohckr 2 years ago
Oops, I meant real fighting has no rules and competition has many rules.
autohckr 2 years ago
The elbow is a joint formed by the ulna, radius and the humerus bones. The tri-bone joint is held together by Ulnar Collateral, Radial Collateral and the Annular Ligaments. Fully extended elbow ranges from 180 to 190 degrees. Hyper-extension starts at 5+ degrees & may cause the trochelar notch of the ulna to break or a fracture to the radial head. Soft tissue damage includes tearing of the ligaments. Ed demonstrated 1 of at least 6 armbars that work in the ring and in the street.
FightPhysics 2 years ago
Ok, first let's get your info straightened out. Dislocation of the elbow(posterior) begins between +8 to +17 degrees. This is accompanied by rupture of the anterior capsule and the medial collateral ligament(medial epicondyle), the lateral collateral and the brachialis are usually spared. The most common fracture in extreme dislocation(usually from blunt trauma) is the radial neck or coroniod process of the ulna. The double jointed have misaligned joints and can hyperextend +20 degrees in some.
autohckr 2 years ago
Secondly, it may work in the ring yes, but not always in the street. Remember, people bite. I've seen fingers bitten off, a nose bitten off and also a chunk of a calf come off(from a guy trying to armbar someone), in fact the guy trying the armbar started to scream in pain and finally let go then was knocked out. My own personal experience, they never fight fair, I've been stabbed(right arm), hit with a baseball bat(left shin) and an iron bar(knocked out bottom tooth) from friends jumping in.
autohckr 2 years ago
please watch "Arm Bar In Street Fight"
watch?v=befAdriVcQU
FightPhysics 2 years ago
Yeah that was interesting, however, if you were paying attention, did you realize how many openings he exposed while he was trying to aquire the armbar? Especially his groin in the beginning of the fight? And he was still open to being bitten. And, he was picked up but not slammed down correctly on the back of the skull. He was fighting an unknowledgeable and inexperienced opponent. Like I said, I have seen it with my own eyes and experienced it myself. "Fisty cuffs" is not street smart.
autohckr 2 years ago
Okay. Your experience. Post a verified vid of you fighting full contact am or pro. Lets see you in action. We've posted vid on YT. BTW for every strike/submission there is a counter- yin/yang. You get hit/grabbed/attacked. Thats what starts a fight. In the very few street fights I've unfortunately been in, I've been hit, kicked, butted or bit. I was lucky enough to prevailed through training and fitness. I've seen your yt page. Just old Lee film. I look forward to seeing your fight video.
FightPhysics 2 years ago
Um... I'm over 60 years old now lol. I grew up in a time when everyone carried switchblades, stilletos, folding razors, chains, pipes and baseball bats. Around the 70's gun use came about. I learned boxing at age five and Kyokushin Karate at age ten(earned 3rd degree). My buddy Phil B. taught me Jun Fan. I also know Tim Tacket and Bob Bremer(JKD). What I learned in all that time is you hit IMMEDIATELY, the most vunerable targets. Don't give them any chance. But fighting also landed me in jail.
autohckr 2 years ago
Yeah, you've got a point on mentioning the possibility of being bitten. That's another reason to don't clinch just like dirty boxing or thai... For the clinch, for example, you should clinch and headbutting at same time. For an armbar, I guess maybe you should be wearing shoes and use the leg next to the head to trap the foe's mouth with your heels... Maybe a cowboy's spur boots would do a great job for that task. What do you think, autohckr?
BacchusSpirit 2 years ago
I don't think spurs are a feasible option(unless you are a cowboy lol), that is if you are serious in your question. However, if you use the heel to trap the mouth the opponent will simply turn in toward the arm and nullify the hold because his shoulder is not being held down. Also, I have seen guys lift the leg up over their head and roll out. Some armbars are better than others, so experiment. The best is when the opponent cannot use a counter(access your groin, bite etc.)
autohckr 2 years ago
if he starts to bite you then you crank his arm all the way till it breaks. no brainer
dylan134 2 years ago
Starts to bite or is biting already? If you can withstand the pain then yeah crank it up. Apparently you have never been bitten. Let's say you are facing a maniac who says he will bite your nose off no matter what happens to him. What do you think the chances are that he will succeed? Pretty low or relatively high? You may break him up pretty bad but if he is determined enough he will bite your nose off. So, you crank, he keeps biting, one of you will have to give. Who will it be?
autohckr 2 years ago
you're acting like he's in a position of power which he isnt. you're positioned to break bones and all hes in position to do is bite. once you break that arm the fights over, hes done for.
dylan134 2 years ago
Ok, you hyperextend my arm. Now you think the fight is over. While you are not paying attention. You feel me hit you a couple of times. It takes a moment before you realize you have just been stabbed multiple times. I tell you from experience that is exactly what it feels like, a hit. The fight is not over and apparently I was not done for. I always have a blade on me, unfortunately, you didn't see it and now it's too late. All you eliminated was one threat and didn't pay attention to the other.
autohckr 2 years ago
no ive broken your arm. i get up and walk away and youre done for laying on the ground crying about your shattered arm.
dylan134 2 years ago
It's obvious you have not been in many or most likely, any fights. Adrenaline does weird things to people. Two of my buddies were stabbed and they thought just like you.
autohckr 2 years ago
thats why you break the arm and get away as fast as possible. breaking the arm gives you an out. i've been in fights and i train mma. i dont think you know what its like to have your arm extended that far but id love to show you sometime
dylan134 2 years ago
@autohckr I bet it takes a real man to stab someone right??
RawRShimmy 2 years ago
@RawRShimmy,
Not really, however, it is a reality, people carry knives. I know, i have been stabbed, he was aiming for my neck but I put my arm up and it went through my forearm, then I pulled it out and he ran away lol. It was a stiletto type of blade, still numb to this day in that area, lucky it missed the big tendons. I carry a knife out of habit, it has come in handy many a time(in the mountains, camping, cutting a hose,rope. etc.) I don't look to use it in a fight if that is what u mean.
autohckr 2 years ago
I was not being serious im stating that if you have to use a knife that your not such a man your self and I am sad to here what happened sad people think that way
RawRShimmy 2 years ago
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I've even seen freak sicko who tried to piss or throw poop into ppl. The cowboy's boots is really hard to happen, but in case of personal defense nothing could be better than some kind of tool, like a piece of pipe, a chain, a bat, a knife... Or even a gun. I think that in case of close clinched combat, u just gotta throw a fast headbutt and back off, avoiding to be biten, spit, crapped or even having ur balls, face or joints hit.
BacchusSpirit 2 years ago
I'm glad you mentioned that. Most of the time it's the thing you don't see that gets you, especially a blade. Your busy trying to grapple and don't notice the knife he just pulled out and then there are the friends who jump in.
MMA does not teach one how to avoid attacks to the vunerable areas because of rules and regulations. You must know how to attack those places as well as know how to defend those exact same areas against attack. That's the point I keep trying to tell people. Poop? lol.
autohckr 2 years ago
wat a stpid guy his not using his right hand to protect
slimboyz69 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I enjoyed your video, If you need help getting your video exposed i use a service at Tubeviews . Net They offer views, ratings, and comments. They helped my video get ranked on the first page
cool
Achaldf 2 years ago
Everybody here have to realize that this is sports based & not a life or death altercation.I competed at one point but even I know the difference.
kastle1972 3 years ago
That''s be hard with some real serious fighters though. Like the ones who wanna break your arm lol. If they got a grip on your hand, you could end up twisting your wrist or your forearm.
keithdude436 3 years ago
Yeah i saw it 2 in the movie NEVER BACK DOWN
ilove that movie jake tayler rocks
GameShark004 3 years ago 15
@GameShark004 ryan mcarthy rocks
stickinmypants 1 year ago
Also, the arm bar has served me well in alot of tournaments. Not until you've executed a few well placed arm bars do you realise how good it actually is.
mrpizzamutt 3 years ago
derekmcgoldrick you realise that this is slowed down right, step by step?
in reality you'd do this faster than normal and the opponent wont exactly SEE it coming because it would happen in a split second.
And what you suggest with the use of both arms is dangerious, the opponent can most probably feel the weight you are putting in the one place and all they need to do is focus on that as a weakness and use where the weight isnt to gain advantage
mrpizzamutt 3 years ago
The arm bar is so predictable too. If the guy on the bottom sees it he can start to roll 180deg clock-wise (from his left to right) to dodge the armbar and make it to his knees or feet. Expert Village my arse!
derekmcgoldrick 3 years ago
All that space and he assists him off the mat with a small lift and why have one hand on the mat. Best way to do this is to use both hands or forearms (left forearm to neck is good distraction) on opponent then while still applying weight slide knee over. There should be no unnecessary lifting or space as this demo shows. Expert Village my arse!
derekmcgoldrick 3 years ago
actually groin shots are overrated in the sense that in an actual fight it may not as easy to pull off as pple assume... also an enrage opponent might not be affected by groin shots at all, or it might just made him more aggressive...
basically put, if you are thinking your game plan is down to a few limited techniques like eye gouges and groin shots... you're in trouble if you face a dude expecting all that and knowing how to defend them... there is no subsitute for a well-rounded defence.
rexregum 3 years ago
Even in a street fight, the time it takes to break the arm is less than the time it would take for one to take a truly effective groin shot. That is if your a bad ass black belt like me who can tap out the average street punk in about 3 seconds.
U people disgust me. Arm bars worked in feudal Japan and they will continue to work forever
caverappleyard 3 years ago
Good job fullmatrix1. Nothing gets by u.
caverappleyard 3 years ago
holy shyt heas got puma shoes
tbuddyholly 3 years ago
its a judo technique.
fullmatrix1 3 years ago
good video
Mike:
Katemen dotcom - The BEST mma blog, checkout our latest mma news
katemendotcom 3 years ago
ino how to reverse this move.
n1c3j0b 3 years ago
fukin idiots this is 4 mma not street fighting
1mgsfan 3 years ago
MMA is as close to it gets to a real fight as far as professionals are involved. In other words any average Mixed Martial Artist will hand a "good" street fighter his ass. Because there is no such thing as a good street fighter. They're just thugs with no talent who like to pretend they're bad ass.
Robopencil 3 years ago 2
you must pay attention to the opponents right arm, because he can hit your balls hard with it, so i am not convinced in a self defense context. it is more like judo
birdmanthegreat7 3 years ago
very true, but there is a big differnece between sport jiu jitsu, and self defense jiu jitsu. this is sport jiu jitsu.
nubemuffin 3 years ago 2
bet he cant stop a bullit
Ridane2005 3 years ago
youd be suprised what a good omoplata could do.....
nubemuffin 3 years ago
lol idiots "no crotch shots" is a rule..
addesun 3 years ago 2
@addesun not in street
seceretagent008 1 year ago
He taps because he feels the pain, he knows his arm is gonna break, if he doesnt tap-ill break his arm. lol. I think thats a threat!
Alphill 3 years ago 3
how is that a threat? a person doing the lock should know when to stop if the person doesn't tap.
dbwise91 3 years ago
Hence why it says Mixed Martial Arts and Cage Fighting Techniques...
AvricArian 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
yeah those people are stupid...PUNCH HIM IN THE BALLS lol wow really?
twoface4 3 years ago
he could punch ur balls thats dumb
MrTutMin 4 years ago
well said. great for the ring...not so great for the street. that wasn't the best explanation of an armbar though either.
kempobrad 4 years ago
where could he punch his balls? in the start he has the guy's arm trapped between his leg and his body, then the next part you're supposed to do quickly so basicly you go from side-control to armbar, the transition is fast, then in the armbar you have his elbow hyper-extended... he isn't gonna be able to punch you in the nuts, & even if he managed it you could just break his arm as payback.
xesogycit 4 years ago
in the 00:50 part
MrTutMin 3 years ago
Practically when people are fighting particularly on the streets and are being trounced they barely keep a balanced head the adrenaline is flowing too quickly. If there is an extremely level headed fighter and hes on the receiving end of this technique the least to do is grab the balls that too if he has a lot of flexibility and some experience and also he can withstand the pain. Punching in this scenario wont work 90% of the time. Only with the other guy's sloppiness you can get that chance
oh1life2live 3 years ago
on the :50 part it is suppose to happen quickly. You arent suppose to hold that position.
mralpoz 3 years ago
i mean like all that time he will try to lock u he can punch ur balls
MrTutMin 3 years ago
D@#$ Straight
leestitzel 3 years ago
dumbass he cnt evn reach from where he is, his arms in da way n he cnt move his arm dat far
ThePersianGod 3 years ago
couldn't the title be any longer?
rockertillmydeath 4 years ago