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  • is there a store that sales fire bricks?

  • @lest128 Lowe's or Home Depot, hardware stores or make your own.

  • What kind of wood or coals should I use ??

  • @slip23us I am using lump charcoal, soft wood burns hotter and faster, hard wood burns slower and not so hot. example of soft wood: Pine. example of hard wood: oak. I use almost any, like scraps of 2 x 4's.

  • The bricks are used as a heat shield to keep the I beam from melting right? And, could I replace the shop vac with a regular bike pump if I found a way to funnel it all into the pipe?

  • @MickyChicky33 The bricks do protect the I beam but their purpose is to create a radiant heat chamber so that all the heat is not coming from the fuel. I use a high capacity air mattress pump that can be purchased at Wal-Mart for approximately 10 dollars, it is plastic so make a small space between metal and plastic with the duck tape. I normally use a hair drier for my air supply but used the shop vac because it was on hand at the time (shop vac is a bit too powerful).

  • @JBThunder2000 Ohhh, I see now, thanks, lol. I have one of those pumps too, and I was thinking of using that instead of the bike pump too,thanks for confirming that I can too! And, the vac being too powerful would make the fuel burn up too fast, right? I'd heard of hair driers being used before too, which gave me the idea of the air pump,  and people use it because it creates heated air right?

  • @MickyChicky33 The shop vac causes the fuel to burn quickly but it also make the fire difficult to control, turn your back too long and your knife will melt. The hair drier is used on the cool setting, I found one at a second hand store for 3 dollars. It has just the right amount of air, much easier to control.

  • @JBThunder2000 Wow, it would have sucked having to find out that could happen the hard way! lol

    And cool, I'll get one as soon as my forge is made, :) Thanks for all the info!

  • @MickyChicky33 No problem.

  • @MickyChicky33 If you get Wayne Goddard's book "The Wonder of Knifemaking," 2nd Edition. I have a forge called the Volcano forge on page 116-117. That is a much better forge. But hey, whatever works, go with it.

  • I used to do my hardening in a Dakota fire hole with a similar pipe setup (instead of the plug, I had hammered the pipe's end into a wedge shape, easier to drive through the ground, no digging the air hole). Now I do it in an open fire with a 12v battery, a 92mm computer fan and some flexible steel pipe providing the airflow.

  • @ratbertovich the simple fact is that it works. Cool. I do not understand why people have such a hard time thinking low tech. I do many different methods and most of them are in the woods. I love forging knives in the woods!

  • @JBThunder2000 Low tech stuff rocks not only is it cheaper but it works the same. As far as people having a hard time maybe cause it dont look pretty... lol

  • @MrTXWolfie Unfortunately most Americans want the best money can buy and they want someone else to do it all for them. Not really all Americans I guess just the ones I rum into.

  • The music is pretty cool BTW!

  • @Claresdragoon Thanks.

  • YOU SIR ARE AWESOME...you just solved every design problem I was having..lol..thanks...my Bellows box will easily hook up to something like that and it reaches the length of the fuel. Do have a question though, would cinderblocks work for a forge or do they break apart. I have a pile of those and a pile of red brick. Any info would be appreciated.

  • @offenwrong they do but have a very short life span, start cracking and deteriorating. I might use them in a one time fire because you can even dig a hole in the ground. Try making fire clay, find a local deposit mix half clay half sand and throw a couple hand fulls of wood as in it. Don't use too much water.

  • @JBThunder2000 thanks

  • @offenwrong Also you might use an old hair drier for the air supply, it has plenty of air. I use duck tape and do not allow plastic to touch metal that might get hot. The tape will melt if it gets hot. Been doing it this way for years no problems. Good luck.

  • @JBThunder2000 actually I have a design for a Japanese box bellows that I am tinkering with to make vertical and use a pulley system to make it work, trying to keep my shop as low tech as possible...when I get materials and learn how to post vids I will be showing what I can.

  • @offenwrong That is funny because I am working on a Japanese box bellows also. Cool. Hope it goes good for you. Later man.

  • I was expecting the top comment to be runescape related ...

  • @AndyChiu3 Sorry it was not runescape related....it was captured by simplicity. You know, can it be that simple. Of course it can because it is not rocket science, it is building a simple forge to get started making knives and swords. It is easy. Did I say that right? It is so incredibly easy to build a forge! So....do it and get started.

  • Its a great idea. My eldest son is a senior in high school and he wants to try it out and maybe even apprentice with someone. Its the first real spark I've seen in his eyes about a career.

  • @ishmashaw I have found the same thing with the spark of interest, I work with several kids teaching them how to blacksmith and bladesmith without spending any money, just being creative and spending energy. Great stress relief.

  • Hey, that's your preference. I just found it distracting from subject. Sorry, I tend to critique videos. "Constructive" criticism. I do like the video though.

  • @ishmashaw No problem. We all have different likes and dislikes, that is what makes people so interesting, the differences. The important thing is to get forging. I ordered a set of tongs the other day off the internet and became angry with the pliers size things I received. I forged a nice pair because of that.

  • How about the music without the singing. I muted it 10 seconds in.

  • @ishmashaw Sorry man I like the music.

  • This is a great video.

    Simple furnace, yet effective.

  • @A7suX Yep, easy and effective. Thanks.

  • how much did this forge cost in total?

  • @dsdragonspawn 0 dollars because I had all the stuff. The hard fire brick cost 1 dollar each from Lowe's when I bought them 5 years before. So not really money just time to find the stuff. I build a simple forge by digging a hole in the ground in a few minutes, made a 500 dollar knife in that one. Most of the cost in making knives is labor, not materials.

  • @JBThunder2000 well hearing that i will have to look into making a forge and a knife

  • @dsdragonspawn It is so easy. You don't even need fire brick if you dig a whole in the ground. If you line it with fire clay that will reflect heat onto the metal, if no clay or brick all heat comes from fuel, which make you use more fuel.

  • that forge actually looked pretty cool

  • @sk3ller21 Thanks

  • what type of pipe is that for your blower ?

  • @kbk1061 2 inch plumbing pipe

  • lol @ jealous people who clicked didnt like

  • @StelloLIVE we all have different songs playing in our heads

  • man the  that song sucks .

  • @solvssod everyone has an opinion. 

  • Whats hotter propane forge or coal forge And whats cheaper on fuel

  • @honeybunchickens All three are hot; propane, coal and charcoal. Many use propane because it is cleaner, not all the smoke and grime. The fire can be started from the push of a button. Coal gives great heat, but has a lot of smoke, you have to clean clinkers out of the bottom of forge as they build up. Charcoal burns hot and fast, and nice reducing atmousphere. Propane and coal are the most expensive. Coal may be hard to come by. Charcoal is my choice but all work well.

  • @JBThunder2000 Hey thanks for the reply. I never get a response back from the person who puts the vid on especially when theres more then 103,000 views with a shit load of comments you get in your emails

  • @honeybunchickens Well you can't say never anymore. Hope it was helpful.

  • What kind of charcoal did you use?

  • @MAD2be1 brand name cowboy charcoal from Lowe's. It is not as good as the charcoal I make, theirs is a bit grity due to the nitrogen they use to halt the charing process. 100% all natural, ya right. But it works. Mine requires a lot of labor, time and that must be weighed, you know what I mean?

  • how hot would that get?

  • Just do what I did, google "firebrick" and select 'shopping' to find prices. There are some different prices but most of them are very acceptable.

  • good song

    

  • @ThePyromaniac500 Thanks

  • Im starting out with blacksmithign and Im new to forge welding. bout how hot do i have to get the metal before its solid welded? a color comparison would be great.

  • is that a vacuum cleaner that you use as a blower?

  • @jakobboy1 yes it is, but it is not the best for the job because it is too powerful. Hair dryer is better. I just use the shop vac to show that you could.

  • how much do fire bricks cost??

  • I just have one question. How much did it cost to make this?

  • @Snado Zero dollars, just keep your eyes open for junk that can be utilized to make an efficient forge. Very simple; need fuel and air supply, the firebrick is used to make a heat sink so that you do not have to use so much fuel, improved efficiency. This could very well be made from a hole in the ground, easy.

  • Nice forge. btw whats the name of this song?

  • What kind of coal are you using and where do you buy it? Very COOL i mean HOT : )

    Regards

  • @agoldek Lump charcoal from Lowe's, called cowboy charcoal, better to make your own, just takes a while, labor intensive. I find commercial charcoal a bit grits like gravel,

  • @JBThunder2000 are fire bricks cheap, fair priced, or expensive?

  • Hi so did you put the vac to 'blow'? how do you do that please? thanks. great video!

  • :D nice design

  • @TheMacason Thanks, key is to Keep It Simple.

  • may i ask what you used to cover the top with? 

  • @hahaman2189 That was a ceramic pizza plate, the kind you use in your oven to get good pizza quality.

  • @JBThunder2000 Haha nice. im definenlty gonna try this. thankyou.

  • why the shop vac may i ask

  • @xRAGExxLYNX You need an air supply to increase the forging temp. I just used a shop vac for this demo because I had one to use. Actually it provides too much air, a hair drier will provide just the right amount.

  • This song is just terrible ....just god awful! But the videos great thank you

  • @mikeysdevilish It was a good song until Youtube made me change it, sorry.

  • So i have a question. I've been forging things for a while and experimenting on different things, and I came across an intresting design. It's called a flame dagger and I was wondering if you know how to make one, or have any tips or both. The more info the better. Thanks for the help.

  • @SuperTrackstar22 flame dagger? Never heard of it but it sounds cool.

  • @JBThunder2000 its quite easy to make, all you need to do is shape the blade and put the bends into it and then add the bevel and make sure its not warped then voila!

  • @purejpm I do not call them flaming daggers but wavy daggers. I have actually made quite a few of them, one with a 12 inch blade. I love this type of blade! I have one on my web page boanergescustomknives.co

  • @purejpm I used to live in Canada when I was younger, Ontario. I love Canada is where I started making knives! I loved camping there, found a lot of insperation.

  • Ha that song sounds like a mix between a country song and a willy wonka song.

  • @SuperTrackstar22 I like willy wonka, just watched the old Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory two nights ago, funny you should say that. Maybe it was a subconcious thing I don't know.

  • Hey, great vid by the way :D im planning on making a forge like urs but do u have any ideas on a substitute for the I-beam for the base of the forge? thanks

  • @redviolin1231 Dig a hole in the ground, use some type of metal bucket, cut a metal 5 gal. bucket in half length wise, etc........ use your imagination. I dug a hole in the ground, stuck a pipe in it and through wood in it, no fire brick. Made a 500 dollar knife from a hole in the ground. It would have worked better with refractory in the hole, so all the heat would not have to come from the fuel, still worked.

  • I am going to try to make a similar forge using two roof tiles in a V with a pipe with wholes in the bottom. The tiles will be covered in refractory mortar. I will be using a hairdryer as my air source. Is it sufficient? Also, do you need a lid on the forge like you? I have seen a lot of charcoal forges who do not have any. Great video and thanks for the inspiration!

  • @vlf0lh41 I use a hair drier most of the time, it is perfect. You do not have to put a top on it. I have been making them with tops lately because they use less few and seem to be hotter.

  • Could you do another video showing a side blast forge? Also, how do you deal with clinkers falling into the pipe?

  • @anon4234 You do not get clinkers because the fuil is charcoal not coal. The pipe gets ash in it, so pull the plug and blow it out.

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  • Great video Thank you

  • where did you get that metal foundation

  • @aznguy11111 Piece of I-beam. Hang around construction sites and beg for scraps.

  • Thanks for helping show this. Been planning to make some stuff, but didn't know how to make a descent forge.

    I liked the music btw.

  • can you build this with normal red bricks?

  • @ninjazombie15 You probably could but it will not have the same refractory ability and they will deteriorate, I never tried it.

  • @ninjazombie15

    god no! you need insulated fire bricks

    

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  • and how much did this cost?

  • @perfektlove1 I had the fire brick but if you had to buy it, 1 dollar a brick. Look around for scraps all the time. I believe in cheap. That does not mean it will not work efficiently and facilitate the steel in reaching critical temperatures.

  • were do u get the metal?

  • @perfektlove1 Some construction workers gave it to me. They were working on a large bridge and it was a piece of left over scrap metal.

  • This is ingenious. I have tried several methods but this looks so much easier. Well done to you sir.

  • @psbibby1984 My idea is to always keep it simple, if it is complex break it down into a simple method so it can be understood. ( for teaching how)

  • I'd rather listen to one continuous belch for 7 mins than hear this music.

  • @ithouston I can not belch that long, sorry.

  • I miss the other song... i think it was a banjo or something...

  • Cool! The music was frustrating though...

  • @Zink575 I know

  • Cool! The music was frustrating though...

  • ok .. whered you get an I beam.. not easy to come by... exp. so short!

  • @Jack1knife Always keep your eyes open, I found that one at a construction site for a bridge and asked it I could have it.  I have been forging for 33 years and have never bought steel, ever.

  • right when the video start i started snapping my fingers and shaken my head lol

  • @learntodrivenow I always have a song in my head.

  • @JBThunder2000 haha its nice!

  • @JBThunder2000 Nothing much really. I need to get back into it. I made a crude knife though.

  • @medievallover120 I get rid of a lot of stress forging. Have you ever looked at my web page? I have always loved knives and if I never sold another knife I would go on making them until my number is up. I am hoping to go back to Canada to visit on a motorcycle trip, in the near future and show my wife the old stomping ground. I remember as a kid camping with my father and brother and listening wolves howl all night long, it was fantastic.

  • @JBThunder2000 nothing much really. I'm gonna get back into it. though.

  • Thats awesome man. I live in Saskatchewan. Canada is an amazing place. Canada isn't always cold for those who didn't know. :) Didn't direct that to you JB. I haven't done much knife forging. I've made one cold forging. But I should really get into knife forging.

  • @medievallover120 What have you been forging?

  • Hahahaha. Fair enough. I have a pipe like this. I should try this.

  • @medievallover120 Works good, do not need to mess with threads rusting up when pipe needs cleaned.  Just ram a dowl or metal rod through, while cleaning and then replace for the next time.

  • @medievallover120 I saw on your profile that you are from Canada. I lived in Ontario for 4 years when I was going to high school. Canada is where I started making knives an incredible place. The first time I went winter camping I thought I was going to die, being 15 years old, since it was -70 F with the wind factor. I want to get back up there to forge a knife in a remote area my father and I used to camp.

  • it looks like a v8

  • @lpngcf420 really?

  • @JBThunder2000 yes yes it does

  • @lpngcf420 Maybe I should use a v8 next time, nah.

  • Hey man. What did you use for a plug?

  • @medievallover120 Mud and grass

  • you have a good idea but i saw a guy who put gasoline before he lighted it and his charcole caught on fire good but the idea is pretty good besides its not like im an expert your the one who does the work i would be way to lazy and scared to get in trouble because im just a kid

  • @5408j I was a bit of a fire bug when I was a kid. Thank God I grew out of that.

  • Nice name btw..boanerges (son's of thunder).

  • @bozez1 thanks

  • Man I sure appriciate the negative comments of warlock....really I am not kidding! He has motivated me to make knives and swords with primative methods like no one I can think of in the recent past. I love recycling junk to make fantastic high quality blades. You really inspired me. Thanks man.

  • i have a brake drum off of a truck, an offroad trucktire rim and plenty of rocks. i just had to pawn my only survival/sheath knife and now i need to replace....and ideas on how to construct the forge?

  • @knifecollector93 Line the drum with fire clay: 50% clay, 50% sand and couple hand fulls of wood ash for added refractory. Mix with water, not too much or it will not hold it's shape. Bring an air supply up through the bottom and you are ready to rock and roll.

  • @JBThunder2000 thanks for the info! btw-accidently gave you a thumbsdown vote or somthing like that. i guess youtube decided to be a little more annoying and changed the buttons

  • @knifecollector93 your wellcome

  • couldnt we used metal... like HEAVY METAL \m/

  • Like Manowar.........excellent music for blacksmiths  see black wind fire and steel and brothers of metal

  • @warriorofsteel01 yah or MESHUGGAH - Bleed is what I thought of... lol

  • @warriorofsteel01

    Check out the video I uploaded March 25 10. I made it in this forge The video is called Ark Angel. It is a different kind of short sword.

  • @ZAKxOFxTHExDEAD all bluegrass sucks.

  • Hey, there is a pretty good magazine called, "The Backwoodsman Magazine." If you were to send them 4 or 5 pictures of you making this forge, with a written discription of what you are doing, I bet it would get published in the mag. They don't pay for the article, but they give you a subscription instead, and it's a pretty good mag. You can find them on the net (google it), and the mag sells in Walmart, Hasting, etc. I think people would be very interested in your forge.

  • wouldnt a shop vac suck the air instead of blowing it to get the flames higher?

  • most shop vacs have a blowing hole nowadays...

  • @clouvy

    The one I was using does have a blow hole. Plastic melts so don't use one that does not have a blow hole. I actually do not use a shop vac all the time, too much air blast, it was an experiment but it still works. I had to hold the hose at a little distance by hand. Try a hair dryer that just has a fan, that is plenty of air. I got one at a second hand store for three bucks. The idea is to use what you have, cheap.

  • great job, simple always works best

  • Using $10,000 equipment does not automatically make a product better. If you criticize the simplicity of this forge you fail to realize the what the early days of this art where like.

  • TOUCHÉ!!!!

    i agree entirely.

  • whats that large square piece you use for the top?

  • Ceramic pizza board, made from similar material as hard firebrick.

  • thanks dude

  • Hey no problem.

  • I think the message almost got lost in that looping sea of banjo pickin' :)

  • first thing to do is throw that banjo on the forge.

  • dude that was the coolest fucking music ever. LONG LIVE REDNECKS!! ( no offence.)

  • this is the music from farm frenzy game

  • Best. Game. Ever.

  • @Zaeffer What the hell are you talking about? lol.

  • @MonoxideChild1219 farm frenzy, from which I believe this music is taken, it was a reply to a post by zexeru but the way comments are uploaded onto youtube makes it look like I was completely off my trucking trolley.

  • i liked the banjo it was kool ...then again im a kentucky born lol

  • I like your iniquity. Did your use the blow outlet on the shop vac? Was it enough air flow? Anywho thanks for the post.

  • @homfeldb iniquity? i think you need to look that word up.

  • I like this post, but really wish you'd take the banjo and set it right in the middle of the forge when it's nice and hot. Maybe the banjo can feel the same hell my ears had to go through while watching this beauty being constructed.

  • thats the most damn redneck forge ive eva seen!!

    no jk. its really simple and usefull, and as some1 said below me- enough banjo for the rest of my life.

  • What is more expensive: this or a propane one?:P

  • That depends on where you live, and how much work you're willing to invest in it. If you're going to do a LOT of smithing, charcoal is cheaper, since you can just make your own for next to nothing.

  • one star cause of the fuckin music. But besides that, cool vid

  • More banjo and more cowbell please!

  • well, that is most certainly enough banjo for one lifetime.

    decent forge I suppose, be better to put it in the ground to the bricks aren't just sitting and cant be moved as easy.

  • lump charcoal is expensive, if you can get it coke is better, and cheaper. but one has to work within their resources i spose.