silent wolf (fox) vs ka-master (luigi) 1 FD

[fLcGambit]

damn that fox is fast

[dibbs34]

well, good to see you've both mastered defense

[Jotora]

Great match.

[SiIentWolf444]

loved having gay sex after this match.

[ChEEzYn]

OH and a response to your comment Hornilope.

They removed pichu because of the same reason as roy and dr. mario. TOO MANY FUCKING CLONES.

And why he removed Wavedashing? :) Because of too many clones right? :)

Get wrecked bitch.

[aliensk8r233]

Your an idiot.

Metaknight is the best character by far. Marths sword + Jiggs body + 3 different recoveries + tornado. He has his own tier. Wtf are you talking about?

Just because you can't wavedash, doesn't make it shitty. It was removed because sakurai wanted brawl to be less competitive. He said so himself.

[SharinganTobi]

Metaknight's sword is longer then marth's. He also got the 1 of the best downsmash in the game, gliding, and infinate cape.

[ChEEzYn]

no shit he removed wavedashing to make it less competitive.

read Hornilope's comment and then you will understand what i mean.

pay more attention moron.

[ChEEzYn]

Pay attention you fucking moron.

read Hornilope's comment and then you'll understand what i meant.

and when you said

"It was removed because sakurai wanted brawl to be less competitive. He said so himself. "

go back a few pages because i said the same exact thing.

[aliensk8r233]

Right. Therefore, brawl is a worse game because it is less competitive than melee. "Everyone wins!" is not my thing.

[ChEEzYn]

First of all. Super Smash Brothers in general, Melee or Brawl or even the first, are all party games.

And just because YOU think brawl is a worse game doesnt make it true. Maybe in your opinion its a worse game.

There ARE more people who enjoy brawl over melee and if you dont believe me go ahead and type it in google. Ive checked.

So although more people like brawl over melee, just because you like melee better, means brawl is worse? I think not.

Fuck competition. We play games to have fun.

[aliensk8r233]

And in your opinion brawl is better. Awesome man! There are more people? Ha, as if the # of people that do something make it better. Saying that just because more play one game make it better is a horrible argument.

Difference of opinions. That's all you needed to say. It is that simple.

Or, "I sucked at melee."

My point was metaknight is more broken than fox, sheik, and marth, and it is being shown by his own tier and his banning at tournies all over the world.

[ChEEzYn]

So then the same goes for you as well.

So you could say "I suck at brawl"

And i really dont see why everyone thinks metaknight is the most unfair.

An experienced Pit player could tank anyone in brawl. ANYONE.

You wouldnt know that because you're too busy jacking off to melee.

[aliensk8r233]

I played brawl competitively and it wasn't nearly as fun IMO.

Metaknight IS the best (from a competitive standpoint). It isn't a question. If you want to win easily, play him.

Pit is pretty bad in brawl by the way.

1. Meta Knight (15.00)

18. Pit (8.44)

[ChEEzYn]

Metaknight isnt really good at all to be honest.

He's only good in the right hands.

You actually need to know how to abuse his powers to play as him.

And not too many people know how to do it correctly.

[ShiftingShadows28]

one song sums up fox here:

sonic sparta remix

[Oosanbashi]

brilliantly played last stock

[tigerzic]

my god why is it that anytime someones good at something someone makes fun of them. no body gives a damn what you people think or say they just want to waste there lifes. let the people like me who enjoy this game, enjoy the video and please for the love of god, get a life.

[Enigmatics2]

actually most people who know how to wavedash would kick your ass without using it.

[Pulgopac]

nigga chop ftw~

[falconpwnch]

not even funny.

[cross25011990]

strong fox^^

[upy0ur5]

Still, auto cancelling= no brain activity. Older games are much better than new hands down. Brawl is okay, but not what it could've been.

[yrsmilekillsme]

you stole my thoughts! >:O

[dave494]

brawl and melee are two completely different games people please stop comparing them

[CIZMANG]

Shine to illusion is too damn sexy!

[MagikoopaMK]

ddont u mean alot easier?

[Balaskh]

did anyone else notice how fox ran away the whole last stock, using the blaster and other faggyness to get him up for a easy kill?

[gigakat]

so the drillshines and SHFLed Nairs dont count, right?

[Balaskh]

are you oblivious or what

[GCLU]

lol at 355, good match

was this video a bit earlier than others, i see ka-ma not using as much throws

[ChEEzYn]

its a good thing brawl took out wave dashing. as you can see in this video. its a very cheap. its not even supposed to be in the game. it was just a glitch

[Nightrazr]

Just...lolz

Wavedashing is using the game's physics.

Try to get that through your thick skull.

[ChEEzYn]

oh and btw. its NOT part of game physics. there are tutorials about all the tricks you can do in the game. Wavedashing isnt included. by the looks of this video, you guys would suck at melee without wavedashing

[VGmastaRicky]

Everyone who complains about wavedashes just doesn't kno how to use it or doesn't kno how to do it at all, and wavedashing aint even that hard. you just press two buttons almost simultaneously while holding the joystick in a downward direction. EASY!!

[ChEEzYn]

no not at all ricky. Wavedashing is called exploiting the game. :)

the makers of brawl removed it for a reason :)

[Hornilope]

yhea they removed it because it was a glitch. just like pichu. pichu was a glitch in melee and thats why they removed it for brawl.

[Cptnoficeland]

Brawl sucks!!!!

[ChEEzYn]

which is why brawl is currently one of the most played wii games and more people play brawl then melee

maybe if you tried it or if you could afford you then you would change your mind.

[Cptnoficeland]

yeah of course i can afford it i am working for nintendo here in Iceland! and it is one of the worst game that i have played in Wii and its also one of the worst game that i have played in my hole live.

[DocSmash]

Oh just shup. You're just the typical Brawl player that pisses on Melee because he's never bothered to learn it.

[EvilHeadBoy]

i'm glad they took out wave dashing because it was a glitch, but L canceling was something brawl should have kept because it was real

[DocSmash]

First it was no glitch, it was a physics' abuse. Secondly, the programmers did know that WD was possible and still let it in.

[EvilHeadBoy]

meh, it is taking advantage of the physics, and "glitch" depends how you looks at the meaning. But i still think wavedashing is out is good, but L canceling should have stayed

[Sveet]

glitch is breaking the rules of the system. things like falling through the level randomly or the screen showing odd things that normally wouldnt be there (the screen "glitching up"). wave dashing is not a glitch. the programmers didnt even have to consciously put it in. its simple, when a character is supposed to hit the ground he lands. its that simple. wavedashing is just landing after jumping. the movement is because of retained momentum due to the airdodge.

[jono128]

you're right, wavedashing is just in our imagination.

[HiddenTriagram]

Brawl has auto cancelling...which is faster than L but alot harder...

[EvilHeadBoy]

oo really? frikin awesome! tell me, or send me a link if you don't mind. i'll look it up eventually though, but my wii got "system files corrupted" for no reason, so i have to sent if for repairs

[HiddenTriagram]

Its not as good as you think though, auto cancelling is nowhere near as fast as L canceling because you can't fastfall with it. So I prefer SHFFing

[EvilHeadBoy]

yeah, i see what you mean. I think when someone finally figures out why slipping happens, it will be the new technique. but for now, i guess we have to play the way it is. but the game is still young. who knows, what ever technique there is, all i care about is whether or not the characters are even, because i frikkin hate tiers

[Vespa412]

Just to let you know, any fighting game with characters that have different moves will have tiers.

[EvilHeadBoy]

any game with character differentiation really. I guess what I mean is, i hope when everything in brawl is discovered, it will still be relatively balanced. The only thing i didn't really like about melee was how a few characters were "superior"

[upy0ur5]

You mean easy to use?

[GigglyFart]

SHFFL*

[ChEEzYn]

and you're the typical Melee player that bashes on Brawl because you cant afford it or cant cope with the fair changes. Sakurai even said that Super smash brothers isnt supposed to be a competitive game, but a game to play during parties to have fun.

[DocSmash]

You're right, my disappointment could be just the frustration of many hours of practice in Melee, that were all wasted in Brawl. Yet, you seem to be saying that you cannot enjoy yourself playing Melee as much as Brawl, because the latter is less demanding. Melee was a very hard game, and therefore I liked it, even though I never went to a tourney. Brawl is not bad in my opinion, but it lacks certain aspects that generally atract me in video games. Competitivety is defintely one of those.

[LaJ126]

Huahuauhhua

For a second there i thought you had said "fair changes"! xD

Oh wait...

[ChEEzYn]

maybe its not fully fair. but its waaaaaaaaay more fair then melee is no matter how you look at it.

[inanoha]

you mean Metaknight?

[ChEEzYn]

LOL if you lose to metaknight then you guys are all trash.

if you tourni fags think that metaknight is the best. then you guys are terrible at brawl. if anyone is overpowered its pit.

[SharinganTobi]

mmmk if you don't play in tourneys, just go to a match with metaknight, use downsmash, tilts, and recover to get a 1 stock advantage. Then do down b and keep smashing the c stick up. See what happens.

[hellzbomber]

Actually, DocSmash isn't a typical melee player. He's pretty freakin good.

[Hornilope]

lmao

kill yourself

[ChEEzYn]

haha you guys are all just tourney fags who live in your moms' garage :}

[Gimpyfish62]

my mom's garage has way to much stuff in it i cant live there T-T

[PSPanime]

wow luigi, i thought he was an all right character, but after seeing ka-master......im scared now

[brucenatelee]

Finally. I see the tech that many people needed to add on some fox videos. Since you can't waveshine Luigi...at all, SW used the idea I was going to post to some of the people since Brawl was delay...again. ShineRip is what I would call it. Shine then a fox illusion. This is very good on Luigi because it combos. Best Top/Low tier match ever.

[Jaggedcrater]

these guys suck...

ive won 4 SSBM tournaments, 2 without even getting killed once.

[KaMaster2]

lol...you're really really dumb. go get raped or something, wow lol.

[abcoolsawyer]

ok ka can u explain in detail how u use that recovery with luigi, what finger u use and everything i have to master that, but first i must learn from the massstaaa!!! lol i hope someone replies (",)

[JejuneJesuit]

just because you beat computers in "tournament mode" does not make it a real tournament

[abcoolsawyer]

dude youtube is so gay i got ya reply XD u were meaning the other dude

[Oosanbashi]

@KaMaster2 AMMON! Watch your language! :o

haha <3

[lifearesoccer]

why does ka never do the screamer? it seems right at the end there, an up+b would have stolen the edge if not screamered SW?

[Slashtap3]

lol Silent throwing it down

[Shintroy]

jesus man that list life laser/shine stuff is nice

[mog87]

lmao at them last life lasers

[Killaforcash]

watching silentwolf vs ka-master looks exactly like me vs meep. i kid you not. but in this match it looks like silentwolf's techskill was off and so was ka master.. hmm

[Philbuck91]

WUT THA HELL???

pros like silentwolf make me wet tha bed at night.. his fox is frickin gorgeous... hoo quadruppl shines omg!!!!

[Psytheslasher]

was he using fox illusion cancels as part of his wavedashes?

[JFGBD]

No, it would be too slow, and it was for mindgames.

[SUNG475]

He used them because shine to jump to illusion actually combos a Luigi and it doesn't have to be perfectly JCed--

[Ikurun]

Silten Wolf has an amazing Fox, smooth!

[HeyNythius]

Heh, nice little mindgame at the end there.

[ImThryx]

I was there...too bad I suck at SSBM.

[ChrisLikesPanties]

fuck this "look how technical he is". Ka-master pwns.

[frostydahoman]

i was gonna say the exact same thing. you get a thumbs up buddy!

[ZeronRebirth]

Hehe, just goes to show that you can battle with even the most technical of opponents with a character below Middle tier.

[rtkraiden]

Holy fucking shit. THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL. Gj Silent. :P

[2476748152]

I could have pointed more things you did wrong or didn't do but I knew that you know about those things and you just messed up and period. Sorry if I bother u

[DylanKeywizRad]

Triple nair to bair combo was beautiful.

[shinkudrygun]

yahooooo!!!! awsome fox, i love it so

[NinFrk6590]

silent, if you are reading this, then im the guy that made that "supercussions fox tricks" video. i was just wondering, what do u use to SHDL, x or y? and what do u use to shine turn around with, x or y?

[SilentWolf444]

SHDL with the stick, and shine turn-around with Y

[NinFrk6590]

wow. r u serious. i use y-b for shdl. is there a technical thing that u cant do?

[SilentWolf444]

i dont need advice lolz

[QueenDVS]

ROFL, Silent is too good!

<3 WA

[BigD666]

Eggz is better >_>, don't hurt me, I was kidding. I totally forgot to do our $5 mm at FCD, maybe if I'm in the West Coast, we can do it.

[2476748152]

@brawlpro: people that shdl with x or y tend to shine before doing it.

Nice tech skill and mindgames. Two things: When doing an up smash out of the shield, always look at how your opponent is spacing cause if not you wont hit em and prolly be punished afterwards. The shine>illusion is a combo that luigi cannot escape(unless he slides on to the edge) if executed enough fast(imagine same speed of the jc shines).

GG

[BigD666]

lawlz at giving SilentWolf advice

[SilentWolf444]

/talking to brawlpro

[brawlpro]

o ok thnx a lot man, i will try that cause shdl and rsdl are too hard, maybe it might be easier for me as well, ok, keep it up, cya on the boards^^

-peace

[sweetxignorance]

I've never seen anyone attack with shine to illusion. o_O;

[Sunshine12227]

shine>illusion seems so brilliantly simple too against the unshinecomboable luigi

[quesote20]

i thought it could have been a mistake, but know that you mention it i also found it awesome and very creative.

[FinalDestiny1000]

wow i now have second thoughts on Luigi xP

[brawlpro]

o and silent, why do you usually shine before you shdl?

[SilentWolf444]

its easier for me

[brawlpro]

these are the type of vidz i love lol