The Sino France war actually ended with French defeat on the battlefield but the Chinese government at that time was such a pussy and corrupted that they would go signed a disgraceful treaty with France. Thank god those stupid Manchurians were overthrown
@KuhoinX The sino French war ended in French victory
The French hammered the chinese on land and sea (Fuzhou) and the French were largely outnumbered
The only real "defeat" of the French came at 2nd Lang sou, where the command ordered an unecessary retreat. The scale of the retreat was largely exagerated in France, used by opposition parties to regain power at the parliament. In reality, the French remained in possession of much of the strategic tonkin places
@skiteufr Furthermore, the last action of the war was when the French invaded the pescadores islands, beating the chinese and black flag armies. We made sure the chinese would agree the peace treaty and pay money in occupying the islands, which was done after
The Chinese try to find little glory for modern political reasons, in a war they were largely dominated by a western power
lol, the Pastry war Mexico won it, defeating 1k french at Veracruz, and the English came with one fleet to threath the french fleet if they dont retreat bc the blockade of the port affected the British Empire Economy. Also France lost the War of French Intervention (1862- 1867) against Mexico's Republic trying to put a satellital monarchy in favor of France.
Don't be so arrogant . Where you see that the French were defeated in Veracruz in the Pastry war . the Mexican were also defeated in the battle of San Juan de Ulúa . The Mexican have their asses kicked in the Pastry war .
@TheCesspitt France fought and won the most wars and battles in History, according to Niall Ferguson, British historian teaching at Harvard
Stupid francophobe rant is pointless and cliché about WW2 too
When you speak about History and try to make an argument, you have to be fair, and not use "has been" francophobia served and maintained by the British or american societies and medias
France fought many times alone, and won countless battles against Britain, Germany, Spain and others
@skiteufr At the point that France has been several times the dominant power of Europe, like at the end of the 100 YW until 1550, or from Louis XIV to Napoleon, or from 1214 to the beginning of the 100 YW. In those times, countries like England, or German states were unable to face France power alone, being too big
Then they formed coalitions, against France alone or with small allies
Most of those coalitions were failures for the allies...
buddy, europe is THE SMALLEST continent and from 1000 AD to 1800 AD, europe was relatively weak and had few influences europe only became a powerhouse starting about 1750 and peaked from 1800-1900, during a time when the brits ruled the world,
@TheCesspitt Are you just stupid or you lack of knowledges?
Smallest continent and weak until 1800?
Smallest continent? what's the point? america was not discovered and Europe was home of the strongest and most developed nations on earth
Weak until 1800? how do you explain that from 1500, European countries, mainly Spain, France, Britain, Portugal, Netherlands started to explore and colonies vast parts of America, India and Africa until 1960's???
@skiteufr Europe was a continent always at war, where France has immense merit to have achieved domination and won the most wars
It was home of the most developed nations, politically, militarily and technologically when others were just tribes with bows and arrows or still living in middle ages
You tried to find a pathetic excuse to hide the fact you know nothing about History, but stupid stereotypes i can break in two words
all continents were always at war. even north africa was at war. i do even recall that the north african mororoccan pirates easily ransacked and looted the french coast and the sultan even asked for the sun king's daughter for marriage, possibily to add her into his harem as a concubine.. i would think thats a brazen act and the french should see that as an insult. however, the roi de soleil did not declare war...
needless to say, the first gunpowder empire in europe was the turks
@TheCesspitt "all continents were always at war. even north africa was at war. i do even recall that the north african mororoccan pirates easily ransacked ... french coast "
All continents were at wars yes, but Europe most of all, and with deadlier and stronger effects, being the home of the world politics and military developed centre
For those pirates, it was the main reason (or excuse) for the colonisation of France in Africa (and north africa) to turn those thugs into colonial subjects
7. conquest of timur (central asia, middle east, india, russia) 15m-20m
8.dungan revolt ( central asia, china) 8m-12m
9.russian revolution (russia) 5m-9m
10. second congo war (dem of congo) 3.8m-5.4m
11.thirty years war (europe, finally...) 3m-11.5m
12. napoleonic wars (europe) 3.5m-7m
clearly we see your point tat europe had deadlier conflicts have no merits. but whats the point in having deadlier wars? it only show how brutal and savage one can be.
@TheCesspitt "clearly we see your point tat europe had deadlier conflicts have no merits"
But your arguments are not valid
What you list are deadly conflicts are for most of them civil wars and internal struggles to a conflict (russian revolution, lushan rebellion, taiping rebellion, dungan revolt...)
We are not speaking about it
I am saying from the beginning that Europe is the continent where occured the most conflicts between nations that always fought each others
russia is not a homogenous nation, nor is china. rather, they are much like europe because they have different cultures. just because almost every person in china may look alike does not mean they are all the same.
for example, all europeans do have the same facial features, just as asians and africans have similair features. europeans all share similair cultures-romance languages, latin and cyrllic alphabet, etc...
europe today is much like a nation as well, the european union. same currency, free trade, open travel, etc... all it lacks is a single central executive government.
the european union today is much like a confederacy and confederacies are considered nations. in a way, the european union is a nation.
today's europe can not be compared to 1300 europe, just as todays russia or china could not be compared to 1300 russia and china.
i dont know what is your point about north africa being colonized, however i think i need to clarify your point. north africa wasnt colonized until the 1830s. furthermore, it was the US navy, not the french navy or any other european navy, that defeated the barbary pirates.
now, i wonder how was it that the US navy accomplished where the french navy failed?
the barbary pirates became obsolete after the american navy defeated them, and rescued thousands of french prisoner-galley rowers, harem girls, etc...
@skiteufr the russian revolution inolved the reds ( soviets) and the whites( anti communists-imperial russians, americans, poles, germans, french, turks, balts, fins, british, japanese, chinese,
We spoke about wars between european nations, with me saying Europe saw more wars between states, and then you come up again with civil revolts in other continents, and now speaking about the EU etc etc...
Strange
Russian revolution... French, Brits or Yankees were not fighting at Moscow or Saint Petersburg
It was only white tzarist troops vs red commie troops
are ethnic conflicts also not states? what defines a state?
arent your european conflicts also wars between ethnic groups?
if i wrote russian revolution, i apologize, i meant to say russian civil war which saw the entrance of french, english, american, czech, japanese, greek, chinese, serbian, romanian, italian...etc....
@TheCesspitt I spoke about state conflicts of course, like a war between France and Germany, or between England and Spain, or France vs Austrian Empire, wars that occured every 10 years for centuries
I don't think we can sum up all european conflicts as a matter wars between ethnic groups, as i don't really see the ethnic difference when Sweden and Norway were at war, or when German states were at war with Austria for exemple...
the ottoman empire was able to penetrate to vienna even in the 1700s. england had infighting between royalists and roundheads. the french had just lost a major war in italy.
europe only made inroads in the americas, where it was largley unpopulated and the people were primatitives with weak weapons and armor. furthermore, their isolation prevented them from developing immunity to eurasian-african diseases such as smallpox.
@TheCesspitt Maybe people in Americas were weak tribes but it was europeans that discovered the continent and conquered it not the ottomans, muslims or asians...
Its a sign were the most developed and able to do that
By the way the only war we lost in Italy was during the italian wars
We just conquered Italian states with Louis XIV, during the revolutiona and napoleon and we even came back in 1859 to free the italians and unite their country in beating the Austrian Empire..
i hardly consider it a "victory" if one conquers primitives. there is no honor in it. however, there is honor in defeating a "mighty" france within 3 months, as the germans did twice, once in 1870 and another in 1940.
@TheCesspitt "however, there is honor in defeating a "mighty" france within 3 months, as the germans did twice, once in 1870 and another in 1940"
Like there is much more seeing France and her army of revolutionnary peasants defeating the whole europe from 1792 to 1802 ALONE
Or the Napoleonic armies doing the same for a decade
Or the armies of Louis XIV alone, defeating Spain, England, Dutch, HRE, Piedmont, Sweden, Scotland,beating them of most of the battles and remaining the dominant power
"he is a francophobe " you are funny with your hypocrisy a people who said such retarded bullshit like" france has a military " " france goes to war? " can only be a francophobe . I have a question for you , what is the name of your country which must certainly have never lost a war or a battle for you to be so arrogant about the military history of France ?
they were not revolutionary peasants, but rather in my opinion, brainwashed farmers defending their land. furthermore, the french used human wave tactics to overwhelm their opponents.
i believe the french lost the napoleonic wars. the "grande armee" was completely destroyed. the winter is the to be blamed because the russians also suffered from the cold.
my country would still exist regardless of the french. the french made no contributions to my country what so ever. even italian wines and cheese are better than the french.
@TheCesspitt LOL LOL LOL why is there US in your profile??? Wait, it's maybe because you are to ashamed of your country... Let me guess, you come from the asshole of the world, a country we've never heard of??? it that case you can hang yourself... monkey...
thats because the US has military bases ALL over the country, USA even had military bases in france during ww1 and ww2. the only reason why french people still speak french and not english is because the USA troops forgot to bring condoms...LOL LOL LOL
@Rostokouban thanks, i do thank the froggies for making it a crime to say the armenian genocide did not happen, those turks need to admit their faults, now make it a crime to say that the other genocides did not happen
@20cFilmWannabe I'm from Norway so I'm not French, but every Historians can tell you that France did the most effort in the war during the WW1.
Russia surrendered after their civil war and the US has declared the war in 1917 but in fact they fought fews months.
France was a great power in the beginning of XX century and they did the greatest contribution in the war against Germany and the Austria-Hungary Empire. It's only in the WW2 that they lost in 7 weeks against Hitler and the nazi troops.
"Failure" lol i see that you are here again French-hater clown . We don't live in a ugly rainy tiny island like you , it's your island who is a failure lol .
"and you probably hate the UK more than i dislike France." it's for that i have several British friend , tell me where are your French friend retarded nationalist French hater ? Nowhere because you have a head only full of snot hate about the French. Oh and congratulation for your failure in the world cup 2018 lol . Uk have not the diversity of France about the beauty of the country not only the weather lol .
@jeffkodiac Olympics are more symbolic than the world cup.
diversity ? you don,t get more diverse than the UK in Europe, its made up of 4 different countries there are hundreds of distinctive accents. In London there are more languages spoken in one city than any other in the world.
I apologies for making offensive comments about France :)
What you say is ridiculous , the French diversity for example in the North some people speak in Flemish and in the south some people speak in Basques . "are more languages spoken in one city" i m not speaking about immigrants . The land of France have more diversity . "I apologies" it's only pathetic hate , and the worst it's that you are proud of that .
@jeffkodiac if thats the case than France is no more diverse than Germany or Switzerland mainland Europe is full of different cultures and languages mixed in, and sorry but it works both ways there are French people on you tube that hate the UK im not just going to take it, and you can act all innocent but ive seen you on other videos banging on about french-anglo wars.
Of course France is more diverse , in France you have people of different region who speak Germanic or Celtic or latin language . The land of France have a great diversity also , for exemple you have a large difference between the French riviera , Brittany or Alsace ."but ive seen you on other videos" it's only answer to some retard comment , you never see a direspectful comment of me on video where we talk only about England or UK .
About Waterloo (considered by the English as one of the biggest Victory), I believe it is worth mentioning that for 72000 French there was almost 120000 English and allied ...
I was born in Honduras i came to France when i was 11 now i'm 23 and becoming a french citizen was one of the best things that could happened in my life proud to be french i will die and protect this brave land cause we''re ready for whatever.
Anyone who says France are cowards who lose wars are either trolling, ignortant or are just thick, i would recommend you dont listen to these type of people.
@MultiAngryguy Finland isn't invaded, Iceland ins't invaded (they refused to enter UE), Poland isn't that much invaded, Hungarian, Austrians, Spanish and Italian can speak freely about immigration, but in France it's tabou, and you know it.
@cocardeux I do know it, im English and the same thing is happening in Britain. Thats why the government is having talks about having a referendum on weather we should stay in the EU or not.
"they re cowards." and you what do you do against immigration not to be a coward . You going in the street with gun to killed North Africans or Africans or muslim ????
In all honesty, how many ways can we define "losing" a war? Do we lose by surrendering? Do we lose by having all our soldiers killed? How can we "lose"?
I'd say be thankful that it's over, not won or lost. If you "win" a war, then what have you changed, or proven? All there should be is freedom and rights, but there will always be shame and guilt for the killing of hundreds, thousands or even millions of men, women and children who stood for what they believed in.
If you want to see French humiliateing the brits at end 17th century and 18th century read about battles of Steenkerque, Camaret (outstanding that one), Neerwinden, leuzen, Fleurus, Fontenoy, Melle, Roucoux, Lauffeld, Carillon, tourcoing, and so many others, too long to name
Franco-Duch war= french diplomatic victory. Just few territories where hand changed. on the other hand Italian wars = Total french MILITARY Defeat. How many battles you have won to Spain?xdxdxd SPAIN>FRANCE
"Just few territories" wrong the French have gaine many important territories and strongholds like the Franche Comté , Cassel , Cambrai , Valenciennes the French alone defeated the Spanish and their allies at the battle of Seneffe , Maastrich , battle of St denis for example so it's a total Spanish defeat .
battle of Seneffe... good victory but not decisive 10.000 french causalities to much!!! nothing to do with "Battle of St. Quentin (1557)": Stregth: 25.000FR vs 10.000 SP. Causalities: 14.000FR and just 200 SP!! OUCH
Battle of Garigliano (1503). Stregth: "23.000FR vs 15.000 SP. Causalities: 8.000FR and just 900 SP LOL!
Probably not. It depends of the source that you use. the causalities in aragonese side comes between 5.000-20.000 and less than 100 in french side. In any case this battle sounds like a joke.
Probably not. It depends of the source that you use. the causalities in aragonese side comes between 5.000-20.000 and less than 100 in french side. In any case this battle sounds like a joke.
jajaja i'm waiting for it. let's compare. Spain (like many other countrys has beat your as for centuries) 1st french defeats during aragonese crusade(1282-1285):
Battle of "Sant feliu de guixols" 7french galley captured and 9 destroyed. None aragones galleys lost OUCH! Siedge of Girona: Total french faliure and 20.00 causalities! Battle of Tudela 4.000 Frnch causalities. And my fabourite, Battle of les formigues: Fraco-genovese fleet TOTAL DESTROYED OUCH! rule Roger de Lauria!
Battle Les Avin french deaths 260 , spanish deaths 4000 , Battle of Guetaria the whole spanish fleet destroyed France lost 0 ships and was outnumbered LOL , Battle of Cartagena 10 ships on 29 destroyed while french lost 2 ships and once aginst outnumbered LOL Battle of Lerida Spain 7000 , Franco-catalan 1000 , and outnumbered again , French may have run away but spain became vassal of france lol , hope you enjoyed Phillipe of france becoming KING OF SPAIN XD
And the last battle was Battle of the Col de Panissars: All french army run away (like chikens) of catalonia with heavy losses. Roger de Lluria again xdxd :P
AND? the 90% of the spanish wanted that the spanish king were a burbon. And don't forguet that burbon is a Nabarrese dinasty (SPAIN). You have catholik churches thanks to Spain. You wellcome. And thanks for Louisiana ;)
We have catholic church because of Spain ? Wtf , Roman started to build catholic church in france way before that spain even exist LMAO , what Louisiana , that's same louisiana that Napoleon sold to USA ? I wonder how we took it back , did you give us it freely ? XD , Navarese dynasty , the first was , the rest were born in paris making them french , while Phillipe was definatly not Spanish lol
Henry IV was first King of Navarre, but was a French bourbon
The House of Bourbon is a French royal house, branch of the French Capetian Dynasty (oldest and largest royal dynasty of Europe), created by Robert de Clermont, son of King Saint Louis of France
Henry IV inherited the crown of France because he was the most senior male descendant of the 10th generation of Saint Louis
So he is French, of a French royal house that ruled Navarre
Henry IV was first King of Navarre, but was a French bourbon
The House of Bourbon is a French royal house, branch of the French Capetian Dynasty (oldest and largest royal dynasty of Europe), created by Robert de Clermont, son of King Saint Louis of France
Henry IV inherited the crown of France because he was the most senior male descendant of the 10th generation of Saint Louis
So he is French, of a French royal house that ruled Navarre
Rocrori Spanish humillation? During the battle Italians and germans troops deserted. Remaniding just less than 8.000 spanish tercios in battlefild LOOOL 23.000 vs 8.000? humillation? I don't think so. Inspite of that 4.000french causalities... Battle of cerignola (1503) 8.000SP vs 32.000Fr Desicive spanish victory!! San quintin (1557) 10.000Sp vs 24.500 Fr...14.000 French deads or captured and just 100 spanish causalities!. THAT'S A TOTAL HUMILLATION OOOOOUUUCH!!
Rocrori Spanish humillation? During the battle Italians and germans troops deserted. Remaniding just less than 8.000 spanish tercios in battlefild LOOOL 23.000 vs 8.000? humillation? I don't think so. Inspite of that 4.000french causalities... Battle of cerignola (1503) 8.000SP vs 32.000Fr Desicive spanish victory!! San quintin (1557) 10.000Sp vs 24.500 Fr...14.000 French deads or captured and just 100 spanish causalities!. THAT'S A TOTAL HUMILLATION OOOOOUUUCH!!
Tou haven't became a protestand country becouse Philip II threaten to Henrric IV to make a Catholic country. Louisiana give to you? muajajaja in your dreams. Napoleon didn't see eny coind of louisiana. All gived to New Spain viceroyalty then independencedo of spain. Philip wasn't spanish? LOOOOL bornd in Valladolid (21 May 1527).
You don't even know that we were talking about Phillipe V no wonder you sound stupid when you talk , Napoleon didn't see Louisiana ? How come he sold it 3 000 000 francs to the USA to finance his war in europe ? And btw do you think that Bourbon sound Spanish to you ? You are like the queen of england , pretending to be 100% english but you have to speak french to talk to her LOL
You don't even know that we were talking about Phillipe V no wonder you sound stupid when you talk , Napoleon didn't see Louisiana ? How come he sold it 3 000 000 francs to the USA to finance his war in europe ? And btw do you think that Bourbon sound Spanish to you ? You are like the queen of england , pretending to be 100% english but you have to speak french to talk to her LOL
@belac0r92 France remained catholic simply because it was the faith of most people arsehole
The Spanish were defeated in various battles at the end of the religious wars, and at the peace of Vervins, had to give back to France everything they took
Louisiana was given back to France by Spain after your defeat (as always) and then we sold it to the US
Yes we enjoyed Philip V becoming king of Spain I have to repeat that 90% of spanish (including the royal army) wanted Philip V like the King? Spain vassal of France? xdxdxd IN Your DREAMS maybe xd. Siege of Fuenterrabía (1638): 7.000 French deads or captured and meny feew spanish causalities OUCH. Siege of Saint-Omer 1638 5.000french causalities!! Relief of Thionville 9.000 Fr Caults. Battle of Honnecourt 1642: 7.000 Fr causts. Battle of Bordeaux (1653) 20 French ships LOST!!
NO but a french king was captured in a battle and prisioned in Madrid :) In spite of that, that we have a bourbon king dosen't means that we have les soberany. dosen't mater where is the king from. Don't forguet that the spanish succesion war also a 90%spanish victory. The only bad of the war was that we lose all our european empire.
Spain Was a follower of France? FALSE. During the 18th century, there were the family pacts. That they were not unilateral Spain to France, but also vice versa. The kings who were to alliances, how can you say that Spain was following France? Spain was a country of second order in Europe?. We defeated the Austrians in Italy during the Polish war of succession.
@belac0r92 Louisiana was given back to France after French revolutionary armies invaded and raped Spain in a few weeks
The fact we are catholic today is mainly because the majority of the people were catholics, and Louis XIV banned them for France later
Because during the war of religions, it was the royal army, that prevailed above catholics and protestants, and established Henry IV, a French protestant that converted to catholicism to be King
Spain needed an alliance with France? LOOOL 7 years war. Spain plis help! Spain Indian Wars Help! American war Spain revlution Help! Napoleon wars Spain Help! LOL? you are completly useles out of europe!! Anglo-spanish war (1739 a 1748) or war of jenkin's ear. TOTAL ENGLISH HUMILLATION!! we defeated him alone has France defeated GB (in 18th century) alone? NOOOO! We encrase our empire during 18th century also. And we participed in moust conflicts of the century.
@skiteufr Napoleon wars help? France invaded Spain and submitted the people
American revolution spanish help? It was the French that did the most part of the job, with navy and soldiers, Spain joined the war 1 year later, and asked the help of France to gain back Minorca that was occupied by the Brits. You also tried to get back Gibraltar
France never needed your help
France was the most powefull country of Europe from Louis XIV to Napoleon with the largest and strongest army
Spain needed an alliance with France? LOOOL 7 years war. Spain plis help! Spain Indian Wars Help! American war Spain revlution Help! War of oranges Spain help!! War of austrian succession Spain Help!! LOL? who need who? Spanish victories alone during the 18th century: Spanish-Portuguese War (1761-63), Spanish-Moroccan War (1774-80), Spanish-Portuguese War (1776-77), Spanish-Genoese War (1738-1744), War of Jenkins' Ear (1739-48), Anglo-Spanish War (1727-29), Spanish-Ottoman War.
LOOOOOOOL this is the history you learn at school? During the indian war france didn't cry like a woman becouse brits were beating their as? SPAIN HEEELP PLIS xd
Let's talk about the freanch-spanish naval battles against the brits during 18th century. And you will see that we just win when is a spanish admirall who comand the battle. Let's go?
Rochefort 1710 Blas de lezo, 10 english ships captured. Breac of Barcelona blocade 1714, Franco-spanish victory by admirall Campanella. 1720 a spanish-french scuare unther Bartolomé de Urdizu comand captured a english square of 240guns (in Perú)LOOOL!! Malaga 1782 Admirall Córdoba humillated desicively Nelson with a franco spanish fleet. English chanel 1776 Cordoba admirall again LOOL. French admiralls? Trafalgar Pierre-Charles Silvestre total french strategic defeat!! French=useless
"French admiralls? Trafalgar Pierre-Charles Silvestre total french strategic defeat!! French=useless" . Explain me one thing if the Spanish admiral was so strong what about the battle of Cape St Vincent 1797 where the Spanish alone were defeated and what about the battle of Diamond rock where a Franco-Spanish fleet defetaed the English and this fleet was under the order of .......Villeneuve . For your information Latouche-Tréville defeated also Nelson .
Siege of Barcelona in 1713 was won only because of French support
Land troops were commanded by an officer of the King of France
The invasion of Menorca was only done thanks to massive French support
In all 18th century wars, it was the massive and strongest French army that was supporting Spain, often to help spanish to take back their lands from British, or save their monarchy
The Sino France war actually ended with French defeat on the battlefield but the Chinese government at that time was such a pussy and corrupted that they would go signed a disgraceful treaty with France. Thank god those stupid Manchurians were overthrown
KuhoinX 1 week ago
@KuhoinX The sino French war ended in French victory
The French hammered the chinese on land and sea (Fuzhou) and the French were largely outnumbered
The only real "defeat" of the French came at 2nd Lang sou, where the command ordered an unecessary retreat. The scale of the retreat was largely exagerated in France, used by opposition parties to regain power at the parliament. In reality, the French remained in possession of much of the strategic tonkin places
skiteufr 1 week ago
@skiteufr Furthermore, the last action of the war was when the French invaded the pescadores islands, beating the chinese and black flag armies. We made sure the chinese would agree the peace treaty and pay money in occupying the islands, which was done after
The Chinese try to find little glory for modern political reasons, in a war they were largely dominated by a western power
skiteufr 1 week ago
lol, the Pastry war Mexico won it, defeating 1k french at Veracruz, and the English came with one fleet to threath the french fleet if they dont retreat bc the blockade of the port affected the British Empire Economy. Also France lost the War of French Intervention (1862- 1867) against Mexico's Republic trying to put a satellital monarchy in favor of France.
Mexico kicked french asses twice.
charlynedved99 1 week ago
@charlynedved99
Don't be so arrogant . Where you see that the French were defeated in Veracruz in the Pastry war . the Mexican were also defeated in the battle of San Juan de Ulúa . The Mexican have their asses kicked in the Pastry war .
jeffkodiac 1 week ago
@jeffkodiac
i thin he meant to say the french intervention in mexico, where the french lost
TheCesspitt 1 week ago
@TheCesspitt
"the french lost " not really because in fact it's a civil war .
jeffkodiac 1 week ago
you forgot the suez crisis: Israel, France and great britain vs egypt
eyalwii 3 weeks ago
france has a military?
TheCesspitt 1 month ago
@TheCesspitt are you fat? because I heard that 50% of the american are fat... i feel sorry for you, guys...
Rostokouban 1 month ago
@Rostokouban
no i am not an american,
hey pot, my name is kettle
TheCesspitt 1 month ago
@TheCesspitt that doesn't answer my first question...
Rostokouban 1 month ago
@Rostokouban
france has a military
france goes to war?
france fights?
TheCesspitt 1 month ago
@TheCesspitt france was made by war you know...
Rostokouban 1 month ago
@Rostokouban
how?
they lost everyone, except when they had help
TheCesspitt 1 month ago
@TheCesspitt France fought and won the most wars and battles in History, according to Niall Ferguson, British historian teaching at Harvard
Stupid francophobe rant is pointless and cliché about WW2 too
When you speak about History and try to make an argument, you have to be fair, and not use "has been" francophobia served and maintained by the British or american societies and medias
France fought many times alone, and won countless battles against Britain, Germany, Spain and others
skiteufr 1 month ago
@skiteufr At the point that France has been several times the dominant power of Europe, like at the end of the 100 YW until 1550, or from Louis XIV to Napoleon, or from 1214 to the beginning of the 100 YW. In those times, countries like England, or German states were unable to face France power alone, being too big
Then they formed coalitions, against France alone or with small allies
Most of those coalitions were failures for the allies...
skiteufr 1 month ago
@skiteufr
buddy, europe is THE SMALLEST continent and from 1000 AD to 1800 AD, europe was relatively weak and had few influences europe only became a powerhouse starting about 1750 and peaked from 1800-1900, during a time when the brits ruled the world,
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt Are you just stupid or you lack of knowledges?
Smallest continent and weak until 1800?
Smallest continent? what's the point? america was not discovered and Europe was home of the strongest and most developed nations on earth
Weak until 1800? how do you explain that from 1500, European countries, mainly Spain, France, Britain, Portugal, Netherlands started to explore and colonies vast parts of America, India and Africa until 1960's???
skiteufr 4 weeks ago
@skiteufr Europe was a continent always at war, where France has immense merit to have achieved domination and won the most wars
It was home of the most developed nations, politically, militarily and technologically when others were just tribes with bows and arrows or still living in middle ages
You tried to find a pathetic excuse to hide the fact you know nothing about History, but stupid stereotypes i can break in two words
skiteufr 4 weeks ago
@skiteufr
all continents were always at war. even north africa was at war. i do even recall that the north african mororoccan pirates easily ransacked and looted the french coast and the sultan even asked for the sun king's daughter for marriage, possibily to add her into his harem as a concubine.. i would think thats a brazen act and the french should see that as an insult. however, the roi de soleil did not declare war...
needless to say, the first gunpowder empire in europe was the turks
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt "all continents were always at war. even north africa was at war. i do even recall that the north african mororoccan pirates easily ransacked ... french coast "
All continents were at wars yes, but Europe most of all, and with deadlier and stronger effects, being the home of the world politics and military developed centre
For those pirates, it was the main reason (or excuse) for the colonisation of France in Africa (and north africa) to turn those thugs into colonial subjects
skiteufr 3 weeks ago
@skiteufr
hmmm deadlier and stronger? i will gladly debate that claim. simply google the most deadliest conflicts and here are the results:
1. world war II---40m-70m deaths a breakdown includes 20m in the far east (china) and 30m in russia
2. an lushan rebellion (tang dyansty in china) 33m-36m
3.mongol conquest ( eurasia) 30m-60m
4.qing conquests ( china, mongolia, burma, central asia) 25m
5.taiping rebellion (china) 20m-100m
6. world war 1 15m-65m
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@skiteufr
7. conquest of timur (central asia, middle east, india, russia) 15m-20m
8.dungan revolt ( central asia, china) 8m-12m
9.russian revolution (russia) 5m-9m
10. second congo war (dem of congo) 3.8m-5.4m
11.thirty years war (europe, finally...) 3m-11.5m
12. napoleonic wars (europe) 3.5m-7m
clearly we see your point tat europe had deadlier conflicts have no merits. but whats the point in having deadlier wars? it only show how brutal and savage one can be.
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt "clearly we see your point tat europe had deadlier conflicts have no merits"
But your arguments are not valid
What you list are deadly conflicts are for most of them civil wars and internal struggles to a conflict (russian revolution, lushan rebellion, taiping rebellion, dungan revolt...)
We are not speaking about it
I am saying from the beginning that Europe is the continent where occured the most conflicts between nations that always fought each others
skiteufr 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr Its true, as the rest of your list confirms it (Napoleonic wars, 30 YW, WWs etc)
I am not speaking about civil wars, or we could add French religious wars, English civil wars etc, but they were not against a foreign enemy
skiteufr 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr
the taiping rebellion was against a foregin government, the qing were manchus from the north, not the native han people.
the dzungars were central asian peoples, a different ethnic group compared to both the han and manchus
the an lushan rebellion was a war between the central asian an lushan and the tang government, thus two different "nations"
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr
but those struggles that i mentioned are valid.
russia is not a homogenous nation, nor is china. rather, they are much like europe because they have different cultures. just because almost every person in china may look alike does not mean they are all the same.
for example, all europeans do have the same facial features, just as asians and africans have similair features. europeans all share similair cultures-romance languages, latin and cyrllic alphabet, etc...
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr
europe today is much like a nation as well, the european union. same currency, free trade, open travel, etc... all it lacks is a single central executive government.
the european union today is much like a confederacy and confederacies are considered nations. in a way, the european union is a nation.
today's europe can not be compared to 1300 europe, just as todays russia or china could not be compared to 1300 russia and china.
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr
i dont know what is your point about north africa being colonized, however i think i need to clarify your point. north africa wasnt colonized until the 1830s. furthermore, it was the US navy, not the french navy or any other european navy, that defeated the barbary pirates.
now, i wonder how was it that the US navy accomplished where the french navy failed?
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt
Don't be so arrogant the end of the Barbary become only with the conquest of the North Africa by the Europeans .
jeffkodiac 3 weeks ago
@jeffkodiac
the barbary pirates became obsolete after the american navy defeated them, and rescued thousands of french prisoner-galley rowers, harem girls, etc...
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt
The barbary pirates have really disappear with the conquest of the North Africa by the French .
jeffkodiac 2 weeks ago
@jeffkodiac
their ships were destoryed by the americans, thus they lost their ability to raid the coast.
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt
If their ships were destroyed explain why they continued their piracy .
jeffkodiac 2 weeks ago
@jeffkodiac
what ships were left to continue their piracy?
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt
In 1827 for example there were many boat , for example a boat of 62 guns, called al-Jihad Meftah or 1 of 50 guns, called Bel Houaz .
jeffkodiac 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt "it was the US navy, not the french navy or any other european navy, that defeated the barbary pirates."
The threat of the barbary pirates ended when Algiers (their most important base and support) was taken...
To the last news, the guys taking the cities did not wear american uniforms
skiteufr 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr the russian revolution inolved the reds ( soviets) and the whites( anti communists-imperial russians, americans, poles, germans, french, turks, balts, fins, british, japanese, chinese,
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt I can't follow your logic sorry
We spoke about wars between european nations, with me saying Europe saw more wars between states, and then you come up again with civil revolts in other continents, and now speaking about the EU etc etc...
Strange
Russian revolution... French, Brits or Yankees were not fighting at Moscow or Saint Petersburg
It was only white tzarist troops vs red commie troops
skiteufr 1 week ago
@skiteufr
what are states?
are ethnic conflicts also not states? what defines a state?
arent your european conflicts also wars between ethnic groups?
if i wrote russian revolution, i apologize, i meant to say russian civil war which saw the entrance of french, english, american, czech, japanese, greek, chinese, serbian, romanian, italian...etc....
TheCesspitt 1 week ago
@TheCesspitt I spoke about state conflicts of course, like a war between France and Germany, or between England and Spain, or France vs Austrian Empire, wars that occured every 10 years for centuries
I don't think we can sum up all european conflicts as a matter wars between ethnic groups, as i don't really see the ethnic difference when Sweden and Norway were at war, or when German states were at war with Austria for exemple...
skiteufr 1 week ago
@skiteufr And ethnicity was not a main casus belli in european wars, it was more to conquer territories, or impose its power on its neighboor
skiteufr 1 week ago
@skiteufr
state conflicts also equal ethnic conflicts.
a conflict between america and france would be a conflict between americans and french people.
Vote Obama 2012
BarackObamaFor2012 20 hours ago
@BarackObamaFor2012 So it would be a conflict between peoples my friend, not an ethnic conflict
In my view, an ethnic conflict would be a war between whites and blacks, or between asians and arabs for exemple
skiteufr 1 hour ago
@skiteufr
the ottoman empire was able to penetrate to vienna even in the 1700s. england had infighting between royalists and roundheads. the french had just lost a major war in italy.
europe only made inroads in the americas, where it was largley unpopulated and the people were primatitives with weak weapons and armor. furthermore, their isolation prevented them from developing immunity to eurasian-african diseases such as smallpox.
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt Maybe people in Americas were weak tribes but it was europeans that discovered the continent and conquered it not the ottomans, muslims or asians...
Its a sign were the most developed and able to do that
By the way the only war we lost in Italy was during the italian wars
We just conquered Italian states with Louis XIV, during the revolutiona and napoleon and we even came back in 1859 to free the italians and unite their country in beating the Austrian Empire..
skiteufr 3 weeks ago
@skiteufr
i hardly consider it a "victory" if one conquers primitives. there is no honor in it. however, there is honor in defeating a "mighty" france within 3 months, as the germans did twice, once in 1870 and another in 1940.
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt "however, there is honor in defeating a "mighty" france within 3 months, as the germans did twice, once in 1870 and another in 1940"
Like there is much more seeing France and her army of revolutionnary peasants defeating the whole europe from 1792 to 1802 ALONE
Or the Napoleonic armies doing the same for a decade
Or the armies of Louis XIV alone, defeating Spain, England, Dutch, HRE, Piedmont, Sweden, Scotland,beating them of most of the battles and remaining the dominant power
skiteufr 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr Or maybe when 900 French soldiers defeated 10,000 English and Dutch soldiers and 36 ships of the line at the Battle of Camaret in 1694
Result: no French dead
2000 British casualties...
Well done
skiteufr 2 weeks ago
@skiteufr
single battles alone do not define a nation. you may remember your camaret, but others will remember sluys, crecy, agincourt, poitiers(1356)
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt
The people who know really history , i.e not the francophobic like you , remembered also of Orleans , Patay , Castillon , Formigny .
jeffkodiac 2 weeks ago
@jeffkodiac
if someone questions france's military integrity, it does not mean he is a francophobe.
just as you are not a jingoist, ethnocentrist, chauvinst, frog-eating surrender monkey.
dont forget sedan, surrender of paris 1940, golden spurs, pavia,
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
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@TheCesspitt
"he is a francophobe " you are funny with your hypocrisy a people who said such retarded bullshit like" france has a military " " france goes to war? " can only be a francophobe . I have a question for you , what is the name of your country which must certainly have never lost a war or a battle for you to be so arrogant about the military history of France ?
jeffkodiac 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt "sluys, crecy, agincourt, poitiers(1356)"
I named a total hammering of the english, with no dead for the French
The battles you mention are great english victories, in a great 100YW lost by the English to the French
Orléans, Patay, Formigny or Castillon ring any bell?
skiteufr 1 week ago
@skiteufr
they were not revolutionary peasants, but rather in my opinion, brainwashed farmers defending their land. furthermore, the french used human wave tactics to overwhelm their opponents.
i believe the french lost the napoleonic wars. the "grande armee" was completely destroyed. the winter is the to be blamed because the russians also suffered from the cold.
TheCesspitt 2 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt "the french used human wave tactics to overwhelm their opponents."
The French revolutionized the art of war
Anyway, those guys being farmers, brainwashed or not, were just famers
Not professional soldiers like other armies
skiteufr 1 week ago
@skiteufr
evesham,auray, cravant, canada?
forgot those?
TheCesspitt 1 week ago
@skiteufr
europe made little inroads into india and africa other then a few trading posts.
could we keep this discussion civilized? such as few to no name calling? its not professional.
since we are online and this is not a formal debate, i suppose we could ignore standard english grammar as long as it is understandable.
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@skiteufr
france fought the most wars?
thats a strong statement you got there...i'd say france lost the most wars LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt Without france, your stupid country wouldn't exist... go hang yourself if you can't handle that...
Rostokouban 4 weeks ago
@Rostokouban
my country would still exist regardless of the french. the french made no contributions to my country what so ever. even italian wines and cheese are better than the french.
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt is your country USA? if so... you can hang yourself because there would not be USA whithout france...
Rostokouban 4 weeks ago
@Rostokouban
no, my country is not USA LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
so i will not hang myself.
i wish you frog eating surrender monkeys didnt help the "americans" during their revolution
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt LOL LOL LOL why is there US in your profile??? Wait, it's maybe because you are to ashamed of your country... Let me guess, you come from the asshole of the world, a country we've never heard of??? it that case you can hang yourself... monkey...
Rostokouban 4 weeks ago
@Rostokouban
jajajajajajajajajajajajaj
thats because the US has military bases ALL over the country, USA even had military bases in france during ww1 and ww2. the only reason why french people still speak french and not english is because the USA troops forgot to bring condoms...LOL LOL LOL
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt come on guy, be brave (lol) and tell me your real country... so that I can laugh...
Rostokouban 4 weeks ago
@Rostokouban
im kurdish and assyrian, i dont have a country, not yet, but we will
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@TheCesspitt ok good luck man...
Rostokouban 3 weeks ago
@Rostokouban thanks, i do thank the froggies for making it a crime to say the armenian genocide did not happen, those turks need to admit their faults, now make it a crime to say that the other genocides did not happen
TheCesspitt 3 weeks ago
@Rostokouban
since the USA is in my country, i'll go to theirs! LOL LOL LOL
TheCesspitt 4 weeks ago
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!!
coerdelion13 1 month ago
well the 20th century was a failure for France LOL so they like to skip it and live in the Napoleonic era LMFAO
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe I'm from Norway so I'm not French, but every Historians can tell you that France did the most effort in the war during the WW1.
Russia surrendered after their civil war and the US has declared the war in 1917 but in fact they fought fews months.
France was a great power in the beginning of XX century and they did the greatest contribution in the war against Germany and the Austria-Hungary Empire. It's only in the WW2 that they lost in 7 weeks against Hitler and the nazi troops.
norskasbj1 1 month ago 4
@20cFilmWannabe
"Failure" lol i see that you are here again French-hater clown . We don't live in a ugly rainy tiny island like you , it's your island who is a failure lol .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac lol bad weather is that it LMFAO
2012 Olympics went to London over Paris decided by other countires ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha FAIL.
and you probably hate the UK more than i dislike France.
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
"and you probably hate the UK more than i dislike France." it's for that i have several British friend , tell me where are your French friend retarded nationalist French hater ? Nowhere because you have a head only full of snot hate about the French. Oh and congratulation for your failure in the world cup 2018 lol . Uk have not the diversity of France about the beauty of the country not only the weather lol .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac Olympics are more symbolic than the world cup.
diversity ? you don,t get more diverse than the UK in Europe, its made up of 4 different countries there are hundreds of distinctive accents. In London there are more languages spoken in one city than any other in the world.
I apologies for making offensive comments about France :)
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
What you say is ridiculous , the French diversity for example in the North some people speak in Flemish and in the south some people speak in Basques . "are more languages spoken in one city" i m not speaking about immigrants . The land of France have more diversity . "I apologies" it's only pathetic hate , and the worst it's that you are proud of that .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac if thats the case than France is no more diverse than Germany or Switzerland mainland Europe is full of different cultures and languages mixed in, and sorry but it works both ways there are French people on you tube that hate the UK im not just going to take it, and you can act all innocent but ive seen you on other videos banging on about french-anglo wars.
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
Of course France is more diverse , in France you have people of different region who speak Germanic or Celtic or latin language . The land of France have a great diversity also , for exemple you have a large difference between the French riviera , Brittany or Alsace ."but ive seen you on other videos" it's only answer to some retard comment , you never see a direspectful comment of me on video where we talk only about England or UK .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac obviously the UK im not even English.
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
Are you Scottish , or Welsh or Irish ?
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac welsh.
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
The Welsh are Celtic people and they have their own language .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac as do the Scots and Irish but the majority of wales speaks English and N. Ireland,England, Wales and Scotland look pretty much identical.
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
I'm think that the British and a great part of the people of France are identical like the other people of the North of Europe .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac yeah i agree, except the British are more pale lol
20cFilmWannabe 1 month ago
@20cFilmWannabe
When you say that i believe that you think about the weather but in fact in North of France the weather is similar than Britain .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
Proud to be French.
Proud to our army.
Unlike most of my country. I don't care.
4shr4m 1 month ago 2
About Waterloo (considered by the English as one of the biggest Victory), I believe it is worth mentioning that for 72000 French there was almost 120000 English and allied ...
Grap17 2 months ago 7
@Grap17 your whole country was taken over
jets2120 2 weeks ago
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España es una miiiiiierda...........
StellandBlood 2 months ago
I was born in Honduras i came to France when i was 11 now i'm 23 and becoming a french citizen was one of the best things that could happened in my life proud to be french i will die and protect this brave land cause we''re ready for whatever.
dryu23 2 months ago 16
@dryu23 Dear sir,
you're one of the few immigrants that France should be proud of welcoming to its wonderful land.
foobarbe 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos 2
Anyone who says France are cowards who lose wars are either trolling, ignortant or are just thick, i would recommend you dont listen to these type of people.
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
@MultiAngryguy lol, but French are now invaded by Africans, French don't do anything against that, because they re cowards.
cocardeux 3 months ago
@cocardeux Every country in Europe has been invaded by immigrants, and thats thanks to the EU's human rights laws.
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
@MultiAngryguy Finland isn't invaded, Iceland ins't invaded (they refused to enter UE), Poland isn't that much invaded, Hungarian, Austrians, Spanish and Italian can speak freely about immigration, but in France it's tabou, and you know it.
cocardeux 3 months ago
@cocardeux I do know it, im English and the same thing is happening in Britain. Thats why the government is having talks about having a referendum on weather we should stay in the EU or not.
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
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@cocardeux
"they re cowards." and you what do you do against immigration not to be a coward . You going in the street with gun to killed North Africans or Africans or muslim ????
jeffkodiac 3 months ago
towards the end you should say britain not england and most of the time when you say england you mean england and wales
allcoolmrdon 3 months ago
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"There's no nation, no democracy which can write its own History without acknowledging a debt or a direct influence to France" -Theodore Zeldin
"There have been 53 major wars in Europe
France had been a belligerent in 49 of them.
In 185 battles that France had fought over the past 800 years, their armies had won 132 times, lost 43 times and drawn only 10.
Giving the French military the best record of any country in the world."
BBC History
et vive la France !
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TalonMercenary 3 months ago 13
@TalonMercenary
Germany only dominated in a very brief period (1870-1945) But France dominated from the tie of Charlemagne to the time of Napoleon!!!!!!!!!!!
coerdelion13 1 month ago
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"There's no nation, no democracy which can write its own History without acknowledging a debt or a direct influence to France" -Theodore Zeldin
"There have been 53 major wars in Europe
France had been a belligerent in 49 of them.
In 185 battles that France had fought over the past 800 years, their armies had won 132 times, lost 43 times and drawn only 10.
Giving the French military the best record of any country in the world."
BBC History
XBotticelli 3 months ago
In all honesty, how many ways can we define "losing" a war? Do we lose by surrendering? Do we lose by having all our soldiers killed? How can we "lose"?
I'd say be thankful that it's over, not won or lost. If you "win" a war, then what have you changed, or proven? All there should be is freedom and rights, but there will always be shame and guilt for the killing of hundreds, thousands or even millions of men, women and children who stood for what they believed in.
JohnGreasyGamer 3 months ago
Stupid jealous roasbeef
AlexAcevindjou 3 months ago
tu as oublié la guerre de cent ans et sûrement d'autres
mais sinon super boulot bravo !!
espana00091 3 months ago
Not all of them, no.
But France did lose WW2 twice!
MARECHAL NOUS VOILA
LordCollingwood 4 months ago in playlist French military victories
@LordCollingwood
Can you exlain me how france did lose WW2 twice ? I'm very curious.
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@LordCollingwood france of vichy did it
not the france
espana00091 3 months ago
FOR EACH FRENCH DEFEAT TO SPAIN, I CAN NAME 5 FRENCH VICTORIES AGAINST THE SPANISH...
skiteufr 4 months ago
American revolutionary wars, Spain to France help for Gibraltar and Menorca
7 years war, Spain to France please help us and show us how to fight
Spain in History, was wether humiliated by French, or defeated by them
Even saved...
We sent many soldiers in the middle ages to help the spanish to reconquer their land after being the slaves of the moors during 8 centuries
skiteufr 4 months ago
If you want to see French humiliateing the brits at end 17th century and 18th century read about battles of Steenkerque, Camaret (outstanding that one), Neerwinden, leuzen, Fleurus, Fontenoy, Melle, Roucoux, Lauffeld, Carillon, tourcoing, and so many others, too long to name
skiteufr 4 months ago
Même contre la Bretagne, les blaireaux
calcius29 4 months ago
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We in Normandy SHIT on the French and France ;)
The French always try to steal Norman victories because they don't have any of their own looool!
ProudOfNormandy 4 months ago
Italian wars (1494-1559) = TOTAL FRENCH HUMILLATION!!!!!
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
Franco-Dutch war = total Spanish humiliation .
jeffkodiac 4 months ago
@jeffkodiac
Franco-Duch war= french diplomatic victory. Just few territories where hand changed. on the other hand Italian wars = Total french MILITARY Defeat. How many battles you have won to Spain?xdxdxd SPAIN>FRANCE
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
"Just few territories" wrong the French have gaine many important territories and strongholds like the Franche Comté , Cassel , Cambrai , Valenciennes the French alone defeated the Spanish and their allies at the battle of Seneffe , Maastrich , battle of St denis for example so it's a total Spanish defeat .
jeffkodiac 4 months ago
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@jeffkodiac
battle of Seneffe... good victory but not decisive 10.000 french causalities to much!!! nothing to do with "Battle of St. Quentin (1557)": Stregth: 25.000FR vs 10.000 SP. Causalities: 14.000FR and just 200 SP!! OUCH
Battle of Garigliano (1503). Stregth: "23.000FR vs 15.000 SP. Causalities: 8.000FR and just 900 SP LOL!
Battle of St denis? insignificant!!
We have won many more to you, and more epic. ;D
belac0r92 4 months ago
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@belac0r92
"We have won many more to you, and more epic. ;D" in the the dream of your arrogant mind perhaps .
What about the battle of Les Avins Spanish 4000 dead , French ...........260 dead .
Battle of seneffe 30 000 Spanish casualties and you say 10 000 French casualties is too much . You are funny .
jeffkodiac 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Franco dutch war was a total humiliation for Spain, militarily and diplomatically
It just confirmed that France was the real dominant power of Europe from 1648
France lost the italian wars yes, not all, but at the end, lost
The internal war of religions in France that were an absolute massacre between protestants and catholics helped the spanish greatly
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr
yes, you welcome for being catholic today xd. and thanks for louisiana ;)
Battle of Ponta Delgada (1582) 3500 french causalities, and 17 warships lost :D War of Portuguese succesion=Total french humillation also. ;)
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
Battle of Muret 1213 , French deaths 8 , Spanish and his allies 15000 . I think you can't do worst than that .
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
Probably not. It depends of the source that you use. the causalities in aragonese side comes between 5.000-20.000 and less than 100 in french side. In any case this battle sounds like a joke.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
Probably not. It depends of the source that you use. the causalities in aragonese side comes between 5.000-20.000 and less than 100 in french side. In any case this battle sounds like a joke.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
"In any case this battle sounds like a joke."Because you can't do worst than that ? You want others epic fail of spain against France ?
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
jajaja i'm waiting for it. let's compare. Spain (like many other countrys has beat your as for centuries) 1st french defeats during aragonese crusade(1282-1285):
Battle of "Sant feliu de guixols" 7french galley captured and 9 destroyed. None aragones galleys lost OUCH! Siedge of Girona: Total french faliure and 20.00 causalities! Battle of Tudela 4.000 Frnch causalities. And my fabourite, Battle of les formigues: Fraco-genovese fleet TOTAL DESTROYED OUCH! rule Roger de Lauria!
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
Battle Les Avin french deaths 260 , spanish deaths 4000 , Battle of Guetaria the whole spanish fleet destroyed France lost 0 ships and was outnumbered LOL , Battle of Cartagena 10 ships on 29 destroyed while french lost 2 ships and once aginst outnumbered LOL Battle of Lerida Spain 7000 , Franco-catalan 1000 , and outnumbered again , French may have run away but spain became vassal of france lol , hope you enjoyed Phillipe of france becoming KING OF SPAIN XD
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
And the last battle was Battle of the Col de Panissars: All french army run away (like chikens) of catalonia with heavy losses. Roger de Lluria again xdxd :P
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
Even today you're king is still a Bourbon , GOOD JOB Far frenchy cousins HAHAHA
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
AND? the 90% of the spanish wanted that the spanish king were a burbon. And don't forguet that burbon is a Nabarrese dinasty (SPAIN). You have catholik churches thanks to Spain. You wellcome. And thanks for Louisiana ;)
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Spain was supporting the catholic league and were defeated at battle of Fontaine Française in 1595
France is catholic because the people chose to remain mainly catholic
Louisiana ended in French hands before being sold
Bourbon is a pure French dynasty, branch of the capetian Dynasty, French (of frankish origin)
The Bourbon branch was created for a son of King Saint Louis of France
It evolved to take the crown of Navarre, but remained French ib the male line
skiteufr 4 months ago
@belac0r92
We have catholic church because of Spain ? Wtf , Roman started to build catholic church in france way before that spain even exist LMAO , what Louisiana , that's same louisiana that Napoleon sold to USA ? I wonder how we took it back , did you give us it freely ? XD , Navarese dynasty , the first was , the rest were born in paris making them french , while Phillipe was definatly not Spanish lol
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing "Navarese dynasty , the first was "
Henry IV was first King of Navarre, but was a French bourbon
The House of Bourbon is a French royal house, branch of the French Capetian Dynasty (oldest and largest royal dynasty of Europe), created by Robert de Clermont, son of King Saint Louis of France
Henry IV inherited the crown of France because he was the most senior male descendant of the 10th generation of Saint Louis
So he is French, of a French royal house that ruled Navarre
skiteufr 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing "Navarese dynasty , the first was "
Henry IV was first King of Navarre, but was a French bourbon
The House of Bourbon is a French royal house, branch of the French Capetian Dynasty (oldest and largest royal dynasty of Europe), created by Robert de Clermont, son of King Saint Louis of France
Henry IV inherited the crown of France because he was the most senior male descendant of the 10th generation of Saint Louis
So he is French, of a French royal house that ruled Navarre
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr
Rocrori Spanish humillation? During the battle Italians and germans troops deserted. Remaniding just less than 8.000 spanish tercios in battlefild LOOOL 23.000 vs 8.000? humillation? I don't think so. Inspite of that 4.000french causalities... Battle of cerignola (1503) 8.000SP vs 32.000Fr Desicive spanish victory!! San quintin (1557) 10.000Sp vs 24.500 Fr...14.000 French deads or captured and just 100 spanish causalities!. THAT'S A TOTAL HUMILLATION OOOOOUUUCH!!
belac0r92 4 months ago
@skiteufr
Rocrori Spanish humillation? During the battle Italians and germans troops deserted. Remaniding just less than 8.000 spanish tercios in battlefild LOOOL 23.000 vs 8.000? humillation? I don't think so. Inspite of that 4.000french causalities... Battle of cerignola (1503) 8.000SP vs 32.000Fr Desicive spanish victory!! San quintin (1557) 10.000Sp vs 24.500 Fr...14.000 French deads or captured and just 100 spanish causalities!. THAT'S A TOTAL HUMILLATION OOOOOUUUCH!!
belac0r92 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
Tou haven't became a protestand country becouse Philip II threaten to Henrric IV to make a Catholic country. Louisiana give to you? muajajaja in your dreams. Napoleon didn't see eny coind of louisiana. All gived to New Spain viceroyalty then independencedo of spain. Philip wasn't spanish? LOOOOL bornd in Valladolid (21 May 1527).
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
You don't even know that we were talking about Phillipe V no wonder you sound stupid when you talk , Napoleon didn't see Louisiana ? How come he sold it 3 000 000 francs to the USA to finance his war in europe ? And btw do you think that Bourbon sound Spanish to you ? You are like the queen of england , pretending to be 100% english but you have to speak french to talk to her LOL
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
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@belac0r92
You don't even know that we were talking about Phillipe V no wonder you sound stupid when you talk , Napoleon didn't see Louisiana ? How come he sold it 3 000 000 francs to the USA to finance his war in europe ? And btw do you think that Bourbon sound Spanish to you ? You are like the queen of england , pretending to be 100% english but you have to speak french to talk to her LOL
NasriTheNewKing 4 months ago
@belac0r92 France remained catholic simply because it was the faith of most people arsehole
The Spanish were defeated in various battles at the end of the religious wars, and at the peace of Vervins, had to give back to France everything they took
Louisiana was given back to France by Spain after your defeat (as always) and then we sold it to the US
The money served to finance Napoleon wars
skiteufr 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
Yes we enjoyed Philip V becoming king of Spain I have to repeat that 90% of spanish (including the royal army) wanted Philip V like the King? Spain vassal of France? xdxdxd IN Your DREAMS maybe xd. Siege of Fuenterrabía (1638): 7.000 French deads or captured and meny feew spanish causalities OUCH. Siege of Saint-Omer 1638 5.000french causalities!! Relief of Thionville 9.000 Fr Caults. Battle of Honnecourt 1642: 7.000 Fr causts. Battle of Bordeaux (1653) 20 French ships LOST!!
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Spain was a follower of France, and was forced to be an ally because now, Spain was ruled by a nephew of Louis XIV of France
Spain was already a backward country, a second class power in Europe
France was the dominant power and Spain had to be ally with France is it wanted to keep some influence and empire
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr France destroyed Spain every time needed
30 Years war, Franco Spanish war (end 1659), war of the reunion, war of devolution, Franco Dutch war, 9 years war
Then we put a French prince as king of your country in 1713
Then we beat you again at the war of quadruple alliance
Beaten again during the revolution and most of napoleonic wars
Spain humiliated at Rocroi, Cartagena, Lens, Dunes, Turin, Seneffe, Palermo, Fleurus, Mons, Barcelona and so many others
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr The difference is that never a Spanish King ruled France...
skiteufr 4 months ago 2
@skiteufr
NO but a french king was captured in a battle and prisioned in Madrid :) In spite of that, that we have a bourbon king dosen't means that we have les soberany. dosen't mater where is the king from. Don't forguet that the spanish succesion war also a 90%spanish victory. The only bad of the war was that we lose all our european empire.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 "Don't forguet that the spanish succesion war also a 90%spanish victory"
Absolutly not
French did all the job
Britain was unable to defeat France decisively and left the alliance
We defeated all other powers at the battle of Denain
And then, we won the siege of Barcelona for the spanish as they were unable to win a battle like in all their history
You have been conquered by moors for 8 centuries
It requiered 1 battle to drove them from France...
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr
Spain Was a follower of France? FALSE. During the 18th century, there were the family pacts. That they were not unilateral Spain to France, but also vice versa. The kings who were to alliances, how can you say that Spain was following France? Spain was a country of second order in Europe?. We defeated the Austrians in Italy during the Polish war of succession.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Before a French bourbon ruled Spain, Spain was always an enemy
With a French king, Spain was made an ally and follower of France
France was leading Europe and Spain was taking benefits of the French policies
Spain was in economic and political decadance
The only power challenging France in Europe Hasburg Austria, and Britain started to do it in the world mid 18th century, but not in Europe
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr In Polish war of succession, French defeated austrians in Lorraine and south west Germany and helped the north italians in the alps
skiteufr 4 months ago
@NasriTheNewKing
And if Bourbon became a french dinasty later. All bourbon born in Spain (late bourbon) So now Bourbon is a Spanish dinasty. Using the same logic.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 "All bourbon born in Spain "
And?
In term of ethnicity, they are all French in the male line, related to the capetians and Saint Louis of France
skiteufr 4 months ago
@belac0r92 1642, rocroi, Spanish humiliation end of spanish dominance in Europe, France takes the lead
Spanish succession war, a French prince is King of Spain, and put Spain as a follower and good servant of France
Look at now, Spain is shit, poor and no influence
France is way above in all domains
When is the last time you fought a war?
Did you ever fought a battle of Verdun?
Spanish are weaks like italians
skiteufr 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Louisiana was given back to France after French revolutionary armies invaded and raped Spain in a few weeks
The fact we are catholic today is mainly because the majority of the people were catholics, and Louis XIV banned them for France later
Because during the war of religions, it was the royal army, that prevailed above catholics and protestants, and established Henry IV, a French protestant that converted to catholicism to be King
Nothing to do witu Spain...
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr
Spain needed an alliance with France? LOOOL 7 years war. Spain plis help! Spain Indian Wars Help! American war Spain revlution Help! Napoleon wars Spain Help! LOL? you are completly useles out of europe!! Anglo-spanish war (1739 a 1748) or war of jenkin's ear. TOTAL ENGLISH HUMILLATION!! we defeated him alone has France defeated GB (in 18th century) alone? NOOOO! We encrase our empire during 18th century also. And we participed in moust conflicts of the century.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Yes France had defeated the Uk alone in the 18th century
We raped them in the austrian succession war, invaded the netherlands, that we gave back with chivalry asking nothing
We defeated them in the French revolutionary wars, twice in Flanders, 1793 and 1799 and in Italy
We beat them in North america and India on our own in 1745
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr Napoleon wars help? France invaded Spain and submitted the people
American revolution spanish help? It was the French that did the most part of the job, with navy and soldiers, Spain joined the war 1 year later, and asked the help of France to gain back Minorca that was occupied by the Brits. You also tried to get back Gibraltar
France never needed your help
France was the most powefull country of Europe from Louis XIV to Napoleon with the largest and strongest army
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr Spain requiered France help regularly in european wars, to take benefit of the situation and try to win lands thanks to French arms
See battle of Almanza etc
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr
Spain needed an alliance with France? LOOOL 7 years war. Spain plis help! Spain Indian Wars Help! American war Spain revlution Help! War of oranges Spain help!! War of austrian succession Spain Help!! LOL? who need who? Spanish victories alone during the 18th century: Spanish-Portuguese War (1761-63), Spanish-Moroccan War (1774-80), Spanish-Portuguese War (1776-77), Spanish-Genoese War (1738-1744), War of Jenkins' Ear (1739-48), Anglo-Spanish War (1727-29), Spanish-Ottoman War.
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92 What king of skirmishes is that loool
France never requiered the help of Spain to fight
It was always Spain joining France in a war with the objective of taking a benefit
And it was always French armies joining Spanish to help them in battle, and never Spanish helping the French
Exception for 1 or 2 naval battles maybe
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr
LOOOOOOOL this is the history you learn at school? During the indian war france didn't cry like a woman becouse brits were beating their as? SPAIN HEEELP PLIS xd
Let's talk about the freanch-spanish naval battles against the brits during 18th century. And you will see that we just win when is a spanish admirall who comand the battle. Let's go?
belac0r92 4 months ago
@skiteufr
Rochefort 1710 Blas de lezo, 10 english ships captured. Breac of Barcelona blocade 1714, Franco-spanish victory by admirall Campanella. 1720 a spanish-french scuare unther Bartolomé de Urdizu comand captured a english square of 240guns (in Perú)LOOOL!! Malaga 1782 Admirall Córdoba humillated desicively Nelson with a franco spanish fleet. English chanel 1776 Cordoba admirall again LOOL. French admiralls? Trafalgar Pierre-Charles Silvestre total french strategic defeat!! French=useless
belac0r92 4 months ago
@belac0r92
"French admiralls? Trafalgar Pierre-Charles Silvestre total french strategic defeat!! French=useless" . Explain me one thing if the Spanish admiral was so strong what about the battle of Cape St Vincent 1797 where the Spanish alone were defeated and what about the battle of Diamond rock where a Franco-Spanish fleet defetaed the English and this fleet was under the order of .......Villeneuve . For your information Latouche-Tréville defeated also Nelson .
jeffkodiac 4 months ago
@belac0r92 Loool
Siege of Barcelona in 1713 was won only because of French support
Land troops were commanded by an officer of the King of France
The invasion of Menorca was only done thanks to massive French support
In all 18th century wars, it was the massive and strongest French army that was supporting Spain, often to help spanish to take back their lands from British, or save their monarchy
skiteufr 4 months ago
@skiteufr Just like in the carlist wars in 19th century
It was the French armies that saved your country from ruin
Battle of Trocadero... is a battle who gave her name to the place where is located the eiffel tower...
France only fought once against Spain in the 18th century, war of quadruple alliance, and won easily
skiteufr 4 months ago