A few seconds ago, I double posted because You Tube gave me an error without any specific message why the posting was rejected... So I removed the second copy.
Could you post a video of the gas production when distilled water is used with this circuit?
Will production look pretty similar to those videos by irondmax who uses similar methods? Dave Lawton circuit vs Stanley Meyer...
Isn't there still a problem with the combustion exhaust (highly distilled water) causing engine part corrosion / wear? What can be done other than use ceramic coated/stainless engine parts? Or still continue to use petroleum fuel/lube to slow corrosion rates from HHO burning?
I succeeded in doing electrolysis with very pure distilled water with high voltage but very small amount cause they way i was doing having the resonance on the input transformer was blowing me the mosfets... i only going post videos with a production really greater than common when its working... otherwise is pointless
now i have a solid setup to work on and soon many nice things will come out of it-- hope so.-
@sebosfato The solution is usually to use a robust / fool-proof design for transformer drive.
Try doing a Google image search for ("Classic H bridge")
Then look at the one that has 4 Power Mosfets with a bunch of Schottky diodes around each of the poles of the coil. Each one of these Schottky diodes dumps the excess energy spike back into the power supply for the circuit, be it a positive or negative spike, that way the circuit can reuse the energy that would otherwise destroy the Mosfets.
@sebosfato One part for safety is slightly missing from this diagram of the Classic H-bridge which is a localized spike protector for the power supply lines.
You must place into that circuit several parallel large electrolytic capacitors of descending size to absorb _Any_ size inductive energy kick that the coil could produce, as well as handle the possible higher frequency components too. Each smaller sized cap will have better higher frequency ability due to lower internal parasitic inductance
@sebosfato When I used such a H-Drive configuration, it was to drive a moderate sized motor that had a lot of inductance to kick back at my Mosfet transistors.
Also to drive my Mosfets on really hard & fast, I used a totem pole set of small signal BJTs like a 2n3904 & 2n3906
To see this configuration Google image search (totem pole transistor circuit)
The one with the separate emitter output resistors is probably best. I might have used 100 to 200 Ohms for those.
@oldspammer Correction, I was only using 3-phase, so only had 3 sets of driver circuitry. Instead of ground connected 12 VDC zener diodes for protection of the Vgs voltage, I tied the gates also through 1n5822 diodes to the +12 VDC supply line, which is better than having Zeners to circuit ground because it will handle more power and switches at microwave frequencies.
@sebosfato Because you are using these Mosfets in a linear mode rather that saturated switching, then the circuit would have to use appropriately adjusted design for the drivers to prevent excess current flow if using a totem pole like drive. It would have some current limiting drain resistors or whatever, per each such Mosfet.
But basically the Schottky diodes, big capacitor, etc, Mosfet protection circuitry would remain in your circuit.
@sebosfato If in linear mode, & you already have inductive protection circuitry for your Mosfets, then what remains is heat dissipation capability--heat sink, transistor mounting kits (bushings, nuts, screws) with mica insulators, heat conductive heat sink grease, and maybe a cooling fan.
Your transistors must be rated to handle the power levels used in case your circuit does not instantaneously find resonance where minimal energy is consumed.
@sebosfato Not shown in these Mosfet driver circuits are gate voltage limiting Zener diodes--in case you are using a gate to source voltage that might exceed the transistor's rating for the gate's input.
Google image search (zerer gate voltage)
A Mosfet is usually turned on by 3 to 4 Vgs (threshold) input and is saturated by 7 to 8 Vgs. Such a zener can prevent the Vgs from exceeding transistor specifications , for example 12 or 14 volts DC Vgs.
@sebosfato Choose a good margin for error for the zener diodes & don't overdrive with a driver circuit whose supply voltage will exceed these Vgs limits in the first place.
I had both a 24 VDC and a 12 VDC supply voltage, and so could use the lower one (12 VDC) to prevent Vgs from being over driven by my driver circuit's output into my Mosfets.
I don't know if free energy only would be a solution for the world, actually it could be a gigantic problem. However i believe to know how to make it become more beneficial than problematic and that this will help solve many other problems in the world if managed well. The free energy is not even the required condition for all this to happen but principally the change in mentality of the people, without this change we would only speed the end of the world. Developmentalism would kill us...
@sebosfato FreeEnergy's impact on me would be no natural gas heating, or hydro electric power bills. I would switch to using an electric car. These are all nice things personally.
Impact would be negative on people who want to make war over oil because it would be unnecessary--this sounds good.
They'd have to come up with alternate reasons for wars?--And probably there are plenty.
Recently there were a bunch of people killed in unrest in mid east, but Nato and UN do not want to stop it-why?
@sebosfato Oil is purchased on the open market now with US dollars as the world reserve currency. This will stop-The USA->debt bankrupt along with other countries who do too much spending on military efforts to control the world.
Still the problem of overpopulation would require stupid, uneducated people to stop having large families that they cannot afford to support. Some form of education or targeted reductions in these areas will soon have to be put into place to curb future troubles.
This circuit i made based on the functionality presented in the patent, i didn't copy anyone design, actually i made it adjustable for my purpose of testing this resonating systems.. . It works perfect!
The numbers are reversed cause i used the computer camera to make the video... Actually what you see is the frequency, in this video i'm showing the ability to generate the pulses separated into trains of pulses, and the importance of this is that the pulses aways start and stop in correct phase, this is a must for allowing resonance to grow nice..
This is exactly the stanley meyer patent circuit, except for frequency ranges and the transistor... cause i build it for my spec.
@sebosfato For computer web cam settings, isn't there a setting option to either have the reverse/mirror image, or the true image displayed back to the user? The web chat image sent is usually the true image?
This depends on the version of software being used to for the web cam, however.
At some point there were no options?
I've got several web cams--they are all crappy under $20 units. A good $500+ Sony camcorder with fire wire interface gets way better image quality due to better sensor+lens.
@sebosfato Now, I would use a good HD camcorder with HDMI output prior to compression. This would get really good imaging. I could then capture with high bandwidth, then use some "software transcoder" to recompress down to smaller size, maintaining nice / desired quality levels. I don't think that this HDMI method could be used in place for a "webcam"-mode application--too much recompression to do without dedicated hardware with lots of adjustable settings? Playback would need fast computer/HW.
@sebosfato Problems I've had with digicams stem mostly from poor low light performance. The sensor just does not adjust itself without huge amounts of noise. From research on the web & some tech TV shows, I've learned that this is from the webcam or other form of digital camera having too small an image sensor that picks up too few photons from the scene being recorded. A bigger sensor gets lower noise after the ISO gain is increased a lot, & needs a smaller aperture to get quality images.
@sebosfato Would this correct phase thing happen using 2 of the LM555 timers where the slow master controls the higher frequency slave unit because the enable or clear input just prevents new trigger cycles from happening on the higher frequency slave unit?
Are you also using bifilar coil(s) with diodes too?
And a toroidal transformer to isolate the frequency generator from the bifilar coil(s)?
Has anyone used a XR2206 to generate sine wave outputs rather than square wave pulses?
@oldspammer You would then take the xr2206 output & use a high speed op-amp in a "perfect rectifier" circuit and then gate these sine wave pulses going into the isolation toroidal transformer before going into the bifilar coils? Google image search (high speed ideal rectifier op amp circuit)
using two 555 timers is much harder to keep on resonance... principally if you use the reset cause the first pulse is never equal ...
The pll makes perfect 50% square waves and they are always in sync with the signal coming from the antena.. thats why it becomes good.. even if you gate it the signal keeps being generated at the right phase when the gate time ends.. it also don't cut the pulses, you can observe this in the video... it just diminish the number of pulses rather..
@sebosfato The Stanly Meyer version waveform of the Canadian patent is really similar to the one of irondmax videos. In these videos the resonance signal is never fully gated completely off--the signal just is reduced a lot in size (amplitude) to let the bubbles escape off of the electrodes? Another thing that I noticed was that every second high frequency pulse had a small DC offset, and the others did hit 0 VDC.
@sebosfato Conditioning of the tube electrodes will coat the stainless steel electrodes with an insulator layer that will prevent full electrical conduction through the electrodes. That is another one of the secrets to having zero current flow and only having high voltage do the water molecule bond breaking. That is why some guys get only conventional electrolysis because they touch / clean the electrodes, spoiling the insulating layer developed during conditioning.
@sebosfato Insulated conditioning layer has to be thick enough to prevent any of the high voltage from fully conducting through the water, causing electrical arcing or ionization of the water.
I was thinking that some form of evenly applied insulation paint layer could be used to coat them instead of having to run current through the system, wasting time and electricity waiting for this conditioning to fully form properly on the tube electrodes?
@sebosfato One reason for this every second pulse DC offset might be to supply the newly separated H+ (protons) some electrons to balance the ion charge to fully form plain monatomic hydrogen rather than H+?
Irondmax might be able to say how high a voltage is ultimately required to generate HHO output?
If it is 2200 VDC, then that is your goal, but if it is only 30 to 120 VDC, then you won't need a huge turns ratio transformer or anything like that to feed & generate those voltages.
@sebosfato I cannot read the part numbers on your video's circuit diagram so I did a Google image search of the site that you say to see more information via (site:websitename +sebosfato +pll) and I found one that does not look like your circuit. It is using a standard 4046 PLL.
If you had used 720p x 1280 uploaded video, then I could see the diagram much better. Somehow irondmax has used HD 720p or more for videos with circuit diagrams in them--which is nice. Depends on video SW that you have.
@sebosfato It does not appear to me in your current diagram that you have used any Schottky protection diodes for your output Mosfet, but I cannot tell because the 480p image is not clear enough to see the details.
Can you change the Uploader comments to have clickable link to that forum site to exactly a posting there where your diagram is saved in original higher pixel size image file so that I can look at it better?
@sebosfato I read your forums quite a bit & one person posted a waveform similar to irondmax has going. This waveform can be found elsewhere as produced by a device.
Google image search (four quadrant multiplier two cosine) then click to find the linked larger image.
A multiplier supposedly can be used to do mixing, or modulation of two different waveforms that are either analog or digital or a combination of either. Once the two are combined, Meyer seems to rectify his version.
@sebosfato With this analog multiplier circuit the actual gating ON/OFF that you believe to cause the two 555 timers to interfere with one another, causing a distortion of the resonance waveform would be completely eliminated by using two sine or cosine waveforms into the multiplier.
Also an analog multiplier can be used as an analog phase detector. Google (multiplier phase detector) and the Wikipedia page for phase lock loops comes up. Edge, & exclusive OR are in the 4046.
the mosfets need to be isolated from other chips....need to be heat sinked seperately...can be on he same heatsink but should beinsulated with that film stuff and a plastic washer...must keep them under the amp rating....fans help and need to be isolated as well....
what else can i help you with.......
find mosfets in blown twisty lights...and computer power supplies
@alienHHO It takes a lot of dinking around to de-solder old parts. The old parts won't nicely plug into the solderless bread board.
Doing this is de-soldering is time consuming & may damage the components with too much heat. There is mercury vapor in those fluorescent bulbs & breathing it in will cause brain function to be reduced due to its toxic effects--Google video search (University Calgary how mercury causes neuron damage). A minute quantity will strip off the myelin sheath of nerves.
@irondmax If you had watched the University of Calgary Medical School video of the microscopic goings on for the interaction of mercury and nerves, ... then would you breath more deeply around freshly broken mercury appliances, put more fluoride toothpaste on your tooth brush, let your small kids play and put in their mouths toys from China known to be painted with lead-based paint, sniff gasoline, paint thinner, PCBs, etc?
Studies have shown that the IQ does drop, but not to zero instantly...
@irondmax The problems in all society / the world today can be traced to those who own huge corporations and have charitable tax exempt foundations to avoid paying inheritance taxes, etc.
On the one hand, you have a beggar in the street--he is obviously not polluting air, water, land with chemicals whose names are difficult to pronounce. You have middle & low income people who must buy whatever is offered on store shelves & be employed at jobs that they don't necessarily like just to live.
@irondmax On the other hand, at the top, you have the elite rich who tell the government what to do under threat of economic collapse.
Sometimes you have to complain about government corruption, run for office, jail the guilty, & so on to stem the tide against immoral, corrupt practices being used routinely to control the lives of people.
There is also the problem of what caused the downfall of Easter Island--overpopulation. The elite want to solve that problem with mass killings via wars, etc.
@irondmax The elite are wrong as many times as they are right. They try to curb population growth by artificial scarcities of commodities--this just caused bankers to own / control things, & the poor people who were uneducated & stupid to have more children than they could afford to support. The low & middle income people who were educated stopped having children that they could not afford. We've ended up with a growing population of stupid young people.
@irondmax What is your suggestion to prevent wars, famine, disease, weather weaponry from artificially causing disasters.
Google ("international aspects of weather modification" president nsdm 165)
Even at the time of the 1970s Richard Nixon & Henry Kissinger were using technology to influence planetary weather as a military strategy.
So next time you are asked the cause of Global Warming, tell them it is the result of nsdm 165 enhancements to 1970s technology & not carbon that they want to tax.
I have mislead you in so far as the "solution" to the world's problems.
To know what I mean, you should view / listen to an interview made late during the George W. Bush administration with an independent constitutional expert.
You Tube play list F4025035BDD435C0
And You Tube QwmTO1dws_8
Experts basically says that first everyone must be aware of the deception of the legal system started a couple of thousand years before Christ.
@alienHHO Unless his circuit is operating in Non-Stanley Meyers mode, the current required will be small otherwise--which is the goal in the first place.
When the current is low enough, & the transistors operated in fast rise / fall times non-linear switching mode with on operation in full saturation, the heat dissipation will be minimal. This differs completely from bipolar junction transistors that tend to have slower switch times, & suffer other ills.
@alienHHO One end uses a nylon bushing rather than a plain insulating washer. The screw or fastener thru the protruding part of the bushing is prevented from slipping sideways into the metal transistor tab material, & thus maintaining electrical isolation between that tab & the rest of the metal parts.
Google image search (nylon bushing) for a examples.
Transistor heat sink mounting kits provide a nicely matched screw, bushing, washer, lock washer & nut to fit particular transistor packages.
I'm a graduating student in Physics in the university of sao paulo USP, and i'm doing this only to find new ways to generate energy or to renew knowledge if possible.
@sebosfato You must know by now that science texts are usually published by big companies whose owners want to prevent any kind of energy independence of individuals. Some things in those texts are usually missing, over-simplified or are deliberately inaccurate supposedly to keep you "dumbed down" enough that students / professors will not duplicate the ingenuity of Nikola Tesla in physics / electrical engineering that would permit every graduate from producing free energy gadgets.
@sebosfato The trouble with having an internal combustion engine running on hydroxy fuel is the engine wear. Some people also claim that burning hydroxy alone does some sort of chemical / heat damage to the cylinders / pistons unless the engine uses ceramics or something to guard against it?
I suppose that the ideal thing would be a machine that flied on high voltage anti gravity principles so that it did not have to use government roadways, & if it had no moving parts other than the steering.
One could donate if fell from the bottom of the heart that should donate, just to help finishing the project, other kind of help would be good too like help me finding a way to stop blowing the mosfets while keep working on it...
I'm working very open with my theories, thus i'm trying to collectively produce knowledge. but i'm really out of money..
I working on this sice 5 years ago, and mainly by myself alone. So i'm just asking for little help.
A few seconds ago, I double posted because You Tube gave me an error without any specific message why the posting was rejected... So I removed the second copy.
oldspammer 6 months ago
VERRY VERRY NICE WORK ,WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE 8XA OF STAN MEYER //????
THEWATERENERGY1 7 months ago
@THEWATERENERGY1
I'm testing many configurations.. but i don't like to give them names.. .would be too much... i hope have all to get there...
sebosfato 7 months ago
Could you post a video of the gas production when distilled water is used with this circuit?
Will production look pretty similar to those videos by irondmax who uses similar methods? Dave Lawton circuit vs Stanley Meyer...
Isn't there still a problem with the combustion exhaust (highly distilled water) causing engine part corrosion / wear? What can be done other than use ceramic coated/stainless engine parts? Or still continue to use petroleum fuel/lube to slow corrosion rates from HHO burning?
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer
I succeeded in doing electrolysis with very pure distilled water with high voltage but very small amount cause they way i was doing having the resonance on the input transformer was blowing me the mosfets... i only going post videos with a production really greater than common when its working... otherwise is pointless
now i have a solid setup to work on and soon many nice things will come out of it-- hope so.-
sebosfato 7 months ago
@sebosfato I don't know what kind of Mosfet configuration that you have put into place that would be blowing them all of the time.
There are several ways to blow such transistors:
heat generated from no saturation or slow switching speeds, or
too high an inductive feedback kick, or
some kind of reverse voltage out of the ratings of the transistors.
Is there any way for you to determine the cause of the Mosfet destruction?
By looking at a circuit diagram, it is usually easy to determine.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato The solution is usually to use a robust / fool-proof design for transformer drive.
Try doing a Google image search for ("Classic H bridge")
Then look at the one that has 4 Power Mosfets with a bunch of Schottky diodes around each of the poles of the coil. Each one of these Schottky diodes dumps the excess energy spike back into the power supply for the circuit, be it a positive or negative spike, that way the circuit can reuse the energy that would otherwise destroy the Mosfets.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato One part for safety is slightly missing from this diagram of the Classic H-bridge which is a localized spike protector for the power supply lines.
You must place into that circuit several parallel large electrolytic capacitors of descending size to absorb _Any_ size inductive energy kick that the coil could produce, as well as handle the possible higher frequency components too. Each smaller sized cap will have better higher frequency ability due to lower internal parasitic inductance
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato When I used such a H-Drive configuration, it was to drive a moderate sized motor that had a lot of inductance to kick back at my Mosfet transistors.
Also to drive my Mosfets on really hard & fast, I used a totem pole set of small signal BJTs like a 2n3904 & 2n3906
To see this configuration Google image search (totem pole transistor circuit)
The one with the separate emitter output resistors is probably best. I might have used 100 to 200 Ohms for those.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato The Schottky diodes must be able to handle the supply voltage used for the driver circuit.
I used sets of 3 Amp 40 Volt 1n5822 Schottky rectifier diodes to protect my Mosfet drivers, I think?
The size of the "big capacitor" was probably an aluminum electrolytic 4700 uF 25 Vdc unit.
The circuit was done on a 4 or more layer printed circuit board so we could have extra wide conductive traces to run with higher power / current.
I was using a 4 phase brushless DC motor so had 4 coil sets.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@oldspammer Correction, I was only using 3-phase, so only had 3 sets of driver circuitry. Instead of ground connected 12 VDC zener diodes for protection of the Vgs voltage, I tied the gates also through 1n5822 diodes to the +12 VDC supply line, which is better than having Zeners to circuit ground because it will handle more power and switches at microwave frequencies.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato Because you are using these Mosfets in a linear mode rather that saturated switching, then the circuit would have to use appropriately adjusted design for the drivers to prevent excess current flow if using a totem pole like drive. It would have some current limiting drain resistors or whatever, per each such Mosfet.
But basically the Schottky diodes, big capacitor, etc, Mosfet protection circuitry would remain in your circuit.
How are you detecting resonance via PLL?
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato If in linear mode, & you already have inductive protection circuitry for your Mosfets, then what remains is heat dissipation capability--heat sink, transistor mounting kits (bushings, nuts, screws) with mica insulators, heat conductive heat sink grease, and maybe a cooling fan.
Your transistors must be rated to handle the power levels used in case your circuit does not instantaneously find resonance where minimal energy is consumed.
To-3 handle more power than the to-220ab case.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato Not shown in these Mosfet driver circuits are gate voltage limiting Zener diodes--in case you are using a gate to source voltage that might exceed the transistor's rating for the gate's input.
Google image search (zerer gate voltage)
A Mosfet is usually turned on by 3 to 4 Vgs (threshold) input and is saturated by 7 to 8 Vgs. Such a zener can prevent the Vgs from exceeding transistor specifications , for example 12 or 14 volts DC Vgs.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato Choose a good margin for error for the zener diodes & don't overdrive with a driver circuit whose supply voltage will exceed these Vgs limits in the first place.
I had both a 24 VDC and a 12 VDC supply voltage, and so could use the lower one (12 VDC) to prevent Vgs from being over driven by my driver circuit's output into my Mosfets.
oldspammer 6 months ago
I don't know if free energy only would be a solution for the world, actually it could be a gigantic problem. However i believe to know how to make it become more beneficial than problematic and that this will help solve many other problems in the world if managed well. The free energy is not even the required condition for all this to happen but principally the change in mentality of the people, without this change we would only speed the end of the world. Developmentalism would kill us...
sebosfato 7 months ago
@sebosfato FreeEnergy's impact on me would be no natural gas heating, or hydro electric power bills. I would switch to using an electric car. These are all nice things personally.
Impact would be negative on people who want to make war over oil because it would be unnecessary--this sounds good.
They'd have to come up with alternate reasons for wars?--And probably there are plenty.
Recently there were a bunch of people killed in unrest in mid east, but Nato and UN do not want to stop it-why?
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer
If people use it only for personal needs than it coundn't be nicier. the problem is those hungry for money, consumerism...
sebosfato 7 months ago
@sebosfato Oil is purchased on the open market now with US dollars as the world reserve currency. This will stop-The USA->debt bankrupt along with other countries who do too much spending on military efforts to control the world.
Still the problem of overpopulation would require stupid, uneducated people to stop having large families that they cannot afford to support. Some form of education or targeted reductions in these areas will soon have to be put into place to curb future troubles.
oldspammer 7 months ago
This circuit i made based on the functionality presented in the patent, i didn't copy anyone design, actually i made it adjustable for my purpose of testing this resonating systems.. . It works perfect!
sebosfato 7 months ago
Please explain why the digits displayed are reversed when we watch this?
Is this measuring peak voltage on the output?
Does this mean that the maximum is 8340+ volts peak to peak?
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer
The numbers are reversed cause i used the computer camera to make the video... Actually what you see is the frequency, in this video i'm showing the ability to generate the pulses separated into trains of pulses, and the importance of this is that the pulses aways start and stop in correct phase, this is a must for allowing resonance to grow nice..
This is exactly the stanley meyer patent circuit, except for frequency ranges and the transistor... cause i build it for my spec.
sebosfato 7 months ago
@sebosfato For computer web cam settings, isn't there a setting option to either have the reverse/mirror image, or the true image displayed back to the user? The web chat image sent is usually the true image?
This depends on the version of software being used to for the web cam, however.
At some point there were no options?
I've got several web cams--they are all crappy under $20 units. A good $500+ Sony camcorder with fire wire interface gets way better image quality due to better sensor+lens.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@sebosfato Now, I would use a good HD camcorder with HDMI output prior to compression. This would get really good imaging. I could then capture with high bandwidth, then use some "software transcoder" to recompress down to smaller size, maintaining nice / desired quality levels. I don't think that this HDMI method could be used in place for a "webcam"-mode application--too much recompression to do without dedicated hardware with lots of adjustable settings? Playback would need fast computer/HW.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@sebosfato Problems I've had with digicams stem mostly from poor low light performance. The sensor just does not adjust itself without huge amounts of noise. From research on the web & some tech TV shows, I've learned that this is from the webcam or other form of digital camera having too small an image sensor that picks up too few photons from the scene being recorded. A bigger sensor gets lower noise after the ISO gain is increased a lot, & needs a smaller aperture to get quality images.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@sebosfato Would this correct phase thing happen using 2 of the LM555 timers where the slow master controls the higher frequency slave unit because the enable or clear input just prevents new trigger cycles from happening on the higher frequency slave unit?
Are you also using bifilar coil(s) with diodes too?
And a toroidal transformer to isolate the frequency generator from the bifilar coil(s)?
Has anyone used a XR2206 to generate sine wave outputs rather than square wave pulses?
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer You would then take the xr2206 output & use a high speed op-amp in a "perfect rectifier" circuit and then gate these sine wave pulses going into the isolation toroidal transformer before going into the bifilar coils? Google image search (high speed ideal rectifier op amp circuit)
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer
using two 555 timers is much harder to keep on resonance... principally if you use the reset cause the first pulse is never equal ...
The pll makes perfect 50% square waves and they are always in sync with the signal coming from the antena.. thats why it becomes good.. even if you gate it the signal keeps being generated at the right phase when the gate time ends.. it also don't cut the pulses, you can observe this in the video... it just diminish the number of pulses rather..
sebosfato 7 months ago
@sebosfato The Stanly Meyer version waveform of the Canadian patent is really similar to the one of irondmax videos. In these videos the resonance signal is never fully gated completely off--the signal just is reduced a lot in size (amplitude) to let the bubbles escape off of the electrodes? Another thing that I noticed was that every second high frequency pulse had a small DC offset, and the others did hit 0 VDC.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato Conditioning of the tube electrodes will coat the stainless steel electrodes with an insulator layer that will prevent full electrical conduction through the electrodes. That is another one of the secrets to having zero current flow and only having high voltage do the water molecule bond breaking. That is why some guys get only conventional electrolysis because they touch / clean the electrodes, spoiling the insulating layer developed during conditioning.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato Insulated conditioning layer has to be thick enough to prevent any of the high voltage from fully conducting through the water, causing electrical arcing or ionization of the water.
I was thinking that some form of evenly applied insulation paint layer could be used to coat them instead of having to run current through the system, wasting time and electricity waiting for this conditioning to fully form properly on the tube electrodes?
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato One reason for this every second pulse DC offset might be to supply the newly separated H+ (protons) some electrons to balance the ion charge to fully form plain monatomic hydrogen rather than H+?
Irondmax might be able to say how high a voltage is ultimately required to generate HHO output?
If it is 2200 VDC, then that is your goal, but if it is only 30 to 120 VDC, then you won't need a huge turns ratio transformer or anything like that to feed & generate those voltages.
oldspammer 6 months ago
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oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato I cannot read the part numbers on your video's circuit diagram so I did a Google image search of the site that you say to see more information via (site:websitename +sebosfato +pll) and I found one that does not look like your circuit. It is using a standard 4046 PLL.
If you had used 720p x 1280 uploaded video, then I could see the diagram much better. Somehow irondmax has used HD 720p or more for videos with circuit diagrams in them--which is nice. Depends on video SW that you have.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato It does not appear to me in your current diagram that you have used any Schottky protection diodes for your output Mosfet, but I cannot tell because the 480p image is not clear enough to see the details.
Can you change the Uploader comments to have clickable link to that forum site to exactly a posting there where your diagram is saved in original higher pixel size image file so that I can look at it better?
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato I read your forums quite a bit & one person posted a waveform similar to irondmax has going. This waveform can be found elsewhere as produced by a device.
Google image search (four quadrant multiplier two cosine) then click to find the linked larger image.
A multiplier supposedly can be used to do mixing, or modulation of two different waveforms that are either analog or digital or a combination of either. Once the two are combined, Meyer seems to rectify his version.
oldspammer 6 months ago
@sebosfato With this analog multiplier circuit the actual gating ON/OFF that you believe to cause the two 555 timers to interfere with one another, causing a distortion of the resonance waveform would be completely eliminated by using two sine or cosine waveforms into the multiplier.
Also an analog multiplier can be used as an analog phase detector. Google (multiplier phase detector) and the Wikipedia page for phase lock loops comes up. Edge, & exclusive OR are in the 4046.
oldspammer 6 months ago
how is the a pll?
Where is the inductance that your trying to resonate to your capacitor (water cell).
all i see is a PWM.
kurdishmob 11 months ago
@kurdishmob
This video is only showing the PLL pulse train generator, that i'm using for testing dozens of coils and cell configurations..
Br
sebosfato 7 months ago
i see.....no money here....
the mosfets need to be isolated from other chips....need to be heat sinked seperately...can be on he same heatsink but should beinsulated with that film stuff and a plastic washer...must keep them under the amp rating....fans help and need to be isolated as well....
what else can i help you with.......
find mosfets in blown twisty lights...and computer power supplies
old tv s have a lot of heat sinks
alienHHO 11 months ago
@alienHHO It takes a lot of dinking around to de-solder old parts. The old parts won't nicely plug into the solderless bread board.
Doing this is de-soldering is time consuming & may damage the components with too much heat. There is mercury vapor in those fluorescent bulbs & breathing it in will cause brain function to be reduced due to its toxic effects--Google video search (University Calgary how mercury causes neuron damage). A minute quantity will strip off the myelin sheath of nerves.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer we all have tvs and light s in our houses...........when they blow............we breath it over and over
irondmax 7 months ago
@irondmax If you had watched the University of Calgary Medical School video of the microscopic goings on for the interaction of mercury and nerves, ... then would you breath more deeply around freshly broken mercury appliances, put more fluoride toothpaste on your tooth brush, let your small kids play and put in their mouths toys from China known to be painted with lead-based paint, sniff gasoline, paint thinner, PCBs, etc?
Studies have shown that the IQ does drop, but not to zero instantly...
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer `in fact i agree with you
we can not even eat the fish that swim in our lakes...............or the tuna from the ocean
do you have a solution to this?
dont eat and dont breath...................?
try welding with radiactive tungston?
or breathing welder fumes all day?
how about an atic that is 180 degrees and you need to feed your kids so you work in the insulation all day......
how about doctors making you give your kids floride in there water............
pesticides and fertilizer
irondmax 7 months ago
@irondmax The problems in all society / the world today can be traced to those who own huge corporations and have charitable tax exempt foundations to avoid paying inheritance taxes, etc.
On the one hand, you have a beggar in the street--he is obviously not polluting air, water, land with chemicals whose names are difficult to pronounce. You have middle & low income people who must buy whatever is offered on store shelves & be employed at jobs that they don't necessarily like just to live.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@irondmax On the other hand, at the top, you have the elite rich who tell the government what to do under threat of economic collapse.
Sometimes you have to complain about government corruption, run for office, jail the guilty, & so on to stem the tide against immoral, corrupt practices being used routinely to control the lives of people.
There is also the problem of what caused the downfall of Easter Island--overpopulation. The elite want to solve that problem with mass killings via wars, etc.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@irondmax The elite are wrong as many times as they are right. They try to curb population growth by artificial scarcities of commodities--this just caused bankers to own / control things, & the poor people who were uneducated & stupid to have more children than they could afford to support. The low & middle income people who were educated stopped having children that they could not afford. We've ended up with a growing population of stupid young people.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@irondmax What is your suggestion to prevent wars, famine, disease, weather weaponry from artificially causing disasters.
Google ("international aspects of weather modification" president nsdm 165)
Even at the time of the 1970s Richard Nixon & Henry Kissinger were using technology to influence planetary weather as a military strategy.
So next time you are asked the cause of Global Warming, tell them it is the result of nsdm 165 enhancements to 1970s technology & not carbon that they want to tax.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer yes i know..............its all a scam
you ever ask yourself why they poison us? what is there ajenda?
maybe i know.............it all adds up to one thing
irondmax 7 months ago
@irondmax Sorry.
I have mislead you in so far as the "solution" to the world's problems.
To know what I mean, you should view / listen to an interview made late during the George W. Bush administration with an independent constitutional expert.
You Tube play list F4025035BDD435C0
And You Tube QwmTO1dws_8
Experts basically says that first everyone must be aware of the deception of the legal system started a couple of thousand years before Christ.
Through many generations we have been deceived.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@alienHHO Unless his circuit is operating in Non-Stanley Meyers mode, the current required will be small otherwise--which is the goal in the first place.
When the current is low enough, & the transistors operated in fast rise / fall times non-linear switching mode with on operation in full saturation, the heat dissipation will be minimal. This differs completely from bipolar junction transistors that tend to have slower switch times, & suffer other ills.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@alienHHO One end uses a nylon bushing rather than a plain insulating washer. The screw or fastener thru the protruding part of the bushing is prevented from slipping sideways into the metal transistor tab material, & thus maintaining electrical isolation between that tab & the rest of the metal parts.
Google image search (nylon bushing) for a examples.
Transistor heat sink mounting kits provide a nicely matched screw, bushing, washer, lock washer & nut to fit particular transistor packages.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer
Thanks, nice idea!
Br
sebosfato 7 months ago
@alienHHO
Thanks = )
sebosfato 7 months ago
Thanks!
sebosfato 7 months ago
I'm a graduating student in Physics in the university of sao paulo USP, and i'm doing this only to find new ways to generate energy or to renew knowledge if possible.
sebosfato 11 months ago
@sebosfato You must know by now that science texts are usually published by big companies whose owners want to prevent any kind of energy independence of individuals. Some things in those texts are usually missing, over-simplified or are deliberately inaccurate supposedly to keep you "dumbed down" enough that students / professors will not duplicate the ingenuity of Nikola Tesla in physics / electrical engineering that would permit every graduate from producing free energy gadgets.
oldspammer 7 months ago
@oldspammer
This is true!!!
sebosfato 7 months ago
@sebosfato The trouble with having an internal combustion engine running on hydroxy fuel is the engine wear. Some people also claim that burning hydroxy alone does some sort of chemical / heat damage to the cylinders / pistons unless the engine uses ceramics or something to guard against it?
I suppose that the ideal thing would be a machine that flied on high voltage anti gravity principles so that it did not have to use government roadways, & if it had no moving parts other than the steering.
oldspammer 7 months ago
why would we donate? other people have shown this.....
alienHHO 11 months ago
@alienHHO
One could donate if fell from the bottom of the heart that should donate, just to help finishing the project, other kind of help would be good too like help me finding a way to stop blowing the mosfets while keep working on it...
I'm working very open with my theories, thus i'm trying to collectively produce knowledge. but i'm really out of money..
I working on this sice 5 years ago, and mainly by myself alone. So i'm just asking for little help.
Best Regards
sebosfato
sebosfato 11 months ago