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  • So can we say that mw2 is a expansion?

  • why is the intro so fucking loud!? it nearly pissed my pants :S

  • @adragonsfear I agree with all you said about thouse games. I judt personally don't want to pay for a new graphics card every so often. and I also don't see how people can take joy playing a game that involves a keyboard a mouse, thouse things are for making essays and google surches.

  • l4d2 is totally a NEW GAME. New guns, characters , campaign, and new zombies,

  • i think black ops/ waw zombies is the best zombie game

  • more like the daddy of all zombie games!!!

  • A sequel:is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, or music that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work. In the common context of a narrative work of fiction, a sequel portrays events set in the same fictional universe as a previous work, usually chronologically following the events of that work.

    This Means L4D 2 is an expansion... there is no plot at all.

  • More like a sequeal

  • I like it for x box but purchased dlc has a serious drawback. I have a family account on my xbox live account. If I purchase dlc with one person on anj account of 4 the other 3 cannot use said dlc unless I am online with my xbox profile that purchased the dlc individually. I understand it is a safeguard to keep people from logging in on friends x boxes and downloading the dlkc under their profile but it should recognize family accounts and not make each member of the family pay. Just saying

  • who cares if its a sequel or expansion? its already fkin OUT as a sequel

  • 2:04

    what does kovics note say?

    i can't read it

  • This is how to find a sequel

    1. New Skins

    2. New Sounds

    3. New weapons

    4. New graphics

    5. New maps that includes the extra gamemodes

    6. Newer engine

    7. It allows you to have dlc's from l4d1 and other addons

    and thats it so that is how to tell between a sequel and a DLC

  • That first guys arguement is dumb.

    It's not a sequel.

    Killing Floor does DLC right. 16 new characters for something like £4.

    10 new weapons, 1 new perk, 10 new maps etc etc all for free.

    Valve ripped a lot of people off with L4D2, completely rendering L4D obsolete.

  • DLC.

  • OMG !

  • This game sucks in offline mode.

  • watch online at cinemashow,info #OMG

  • no, they took matt out to see the cola >:)

  • This is Friendly Fire, mind numbingly awful =)

  • The better version is where your friends are, this game seriously CAN'T be played without good friends. Both versions are great, PC gets better deals and player base. Xbox is good if you and your friends can't all afford a good PC.

  • If these guys are saying that new characters, new story, new weapons, new content, and new engine refinements don't make a game a sequel then they might as well be arguing that Half-Life 2 wasn't a sequel, just an expansion with some fancy new graphics. Two of these guys need to really think about what they are about to say before they say it.

  • @namelessfire Sequel: Follows from the original storyline. L4D2 doesn't really follow through except for the 2 campaigns (The Passing and The Sacrifice). Half-Life 2 follows Half-Life 1. You're just sounding like an idiot now.

  • @Soneclipseredvblue L4D2 chronologically takes place after L4D1. Same apocalypse, different characters and setting. That's like saying Fallout 2 isn't a sequel to Fallout 1. Think before you speak and maybe next time you won't sound like a complete moron.

  • @namelessfire You just don't get it.

  • @BugattiVeyron19 PC version of valve games are always better

  • @bezeker12 In L4D2 , It isn't

  • @Airmanshead PC is still better man..seriously, for example..i didnt have to pay for the passing...i also wont have to pay extra for "the sacrafice" and it only only cost me 40 insted of 60 i also got a tf2 hat for pre-ordering it, i also get a better payer database most people on xbox are rather young adult gamers tend to own PC's those are just a VERY few reasons why the PC version of l4d2 is better then the xbox version if you come back with some decent awnsers id love to hear em bud :)

  • @bezeker12 Lol I can't believe that this is even a debate. Of course the PC version of it is superior. All Valve games are better on PC. This is just common sense.

  • @bezeker12 every single fucking valve game is better for the pc alot of games are better for the pc like oblivion is alost 50 times better and when minecraft comes to xbox minecraft will be almost a billion times better then xbox and i know that i own a xbox btw cus i know all of this stuff its just the reality of it

  • @bezeker12 and u can download costom maps for free

  • @bezeker12 That is all due to microsoft's stupid policies, not consoles in general. I agree that the PC version is better for mods, I have the PC version, but saying "PCS ARE BETTER FOR EVERYTHING PC MASTER RACE FUCK YEAH" is stupid. There are distinct advantages to console gaming such as reliability, longer life cycle, split screen, couch gaming, and the advantages of a controller that many people overlook. Keyboard/mouse is great for competitive shooting, not racing games, fighters,rpgs,etc

  • @bezeker12 coz VALVe cares about there fans 

  • @wendor24 valve and gabe dont give 2 shits about their fans

  • @randomminecrafter they do 

  • @wendor24 bull shit valve promises a whole load of l4d1 dlc what do they give? 2 maps and abandon the entire game

  • @randomminecrafter it takes along time to make those maps and plus they dont just do l4d they do so much other games.

    and olso they never promised anything they are making a new map for l4d2 right now

    and then they might make l4d maps too

  • @wendor24 yeah they did promise dude and those l4d maps will be in the past then cuz bill is dead and plus i dont give a hell about l4d2 its not as enjoyable as me

  • @randomminecrafter they might do one with no bill...

  • @wendor24 no bill means not l4d and plus bill had way too much of an impact on everyone than a new character and plus no they wont dude

  • @bezeker12 and lager

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  • id like to see that guy make l4d 3

  • @mrwaha1 NIEN

  • if this was a dlc it would be friggin huge how many dlcs have you seen that are 6 gbs of space?

  • /watch?v=kHQbZIiPbQQ

  • I'm just mad that they left left 4 ded for.... dead.

  • the 3rd guy sounds like Excl

  • Modern Warfare 2 is all so just Call of duty 4 with reskins and extra 2

  • press this 0:01 to skip advertisement

  • left 4 dead 1.5 with all the survivers all the weapons and moar, all the campaings and even more and a character customization mode too thumbs up if you like the idea and if you have ps3 cod waw and map packs my id is : Rebopin

  • if they make left 4 dead 3, they should have the origanal 4 team up with the new 4!! :)

  • @gamerguy81 Ya, too bad bill died :(

  • @gamerguy81 Would it be called like 8 Left 4 Dead?

  • Miltary perspective of the Left 4 Dead?

    I was hoping that Ellis regroups with his friend,Keith,in Left 4 Dead 3 well if they ever make one

  • L4D2 deserves to be a sequel bascially because of it's improved graphics,new characters and zombies,and a better system.

    Maybe in a few years,they'll do something they've done with orange box.

    Left 4 Dead The Chronicals

  • left 4 dead 1 was okay but 2 sucked

  • @BenJKrauser

    ???

    WTF why?

  • @esfelectra Wasn't as fun to me, and new characters sucked, new monsters weren't needed, only good "improvement" was melee weapons.

  • its a sequel theyre like oh its the same idea well how do you improve on the perfect zombie shooter basicly it deserves its own game

  • When Rob said "expanding on the original story"... what story? the story is "survive"

  • they also added a new engine... god damn this is what happens when valve releases games to consoles.

  • if it would be a DLC it wouldnt run without l4d1 SO SEQUAL and becise why would a DLC have a DLC (the passing)

  • @kwruncs this was before l4d2 was released

  • It's not a sequel because it has all diffrent things than the first. But if you get an add son called the passing you get to meet the L4D 1 characters. Exept bill. He be dead :(

  • wish it was neither they ruined the first 1 with this

  • how the fuck is giving a game a little face lift and adding a few little characters and maps a fucking sequel it sounds like damn DLC not that much of a sequel just paying to much for something that should cost about 5 or 10

  • @dosdeydey the call of duty series pumps out "sequels" every year and nobody gives a fuck about that. But then suddenly "Oh better AI, more varied campaigns, interesting characters, new special infected? OMG FUCKING DLC EPIC FAIL LOLOLOL!"

  • Full sequel :)

  • sequel, its very different. lots of new zombies, improved weapons, graphics, way too much for expansion, but they did take away zoey....

  • the passing blew ass cuz it was so damn short

    end of discussion

  • sequel period.

  • sequel

  • if it were to be a DLC it would be a huge ass DLC seriously and with the passing

  • In L4D there are 7 weapons. In 2 there are 15. Over double the amount in the first. There are also more campaigns in 2 than in 1. Who would release twice as much content than in the original as DLC? Full sequel

  • full seqeluel

  • Ykonw how that one guy said who it was just a reskinning? Oblivion and Fallout 3 where made in the same engine. yup.

  • @MrSuperTrout yet they were completely and utterly different games even though they ran on gamebryo.

  • the games jus like an upgrded nazi zombie weapon, its a little better, but its the same dam thing, L4D 2 is Not a sequel, i mean, u dont even have any of the same characters

  • ATM Game sequals now seem to be more improved versions of the originals, for excample SSFIV, L4D2, they're not full games but it's as if the originals were just beta testings for the sequal (full game)

    Also the friendly fire sucked, some arguments were more valid than other and yet they got kicked out of the debate.

  • Wow, Rob and Matt are huge dicks. :P Apparently eighteen months to work on twenty-four extra gameplay hours should actually be spent away for free to make a 6 GB game. Forget about the insane amount of content, right? Only what it is?

  • Now if they made a military side then it would be better like killing carriers and zombies... maybbe vehicles too

  • then what do u think is a dlc and mod or sequel cuz i think its a sequel its got it all . i dont understand peeps saying its not cuz then a sequel would have to be fucking huger but how

  • New characters, more than twice as many weapons, twice the amount of infected infected, plus the old ones have new visuals, uncommon infected, more campaigns, more gametypes...yeah, a sequel.

  • these dumbasses REALLY believe that l4d2 is a DLC this is truly why machinima sucks ass

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  • saying this is dlc is bullsh!t it's totally a sequal & him saying i could make this game using skins bull crap cause ive seen people use skin mods on the new survivors of the old suvivors on pc looks a little deformed and yea it's totally a sequal i know people wanter the originals back but realistically in the real world there would be more than 4 suvivors

  • calling this is a dlc is like calling mw2 as a dlc. l4d2 has new gametypes and more campaign.

  • new uncommon common more boss infected and on top of that extra weapons items pillz adrenaline and a bunch of that

  • l4d2:new maps, charcters, Ai, weapons (guns and melee), game modes, boss infected, zombies that react better when shot or sliced, AND more diverse final levels (no more "hold out until help comes" for every map)

  • I hate how the host cuts them off even before their time is expired. Let them finish their sentence!

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  • i find this intresting because it actualy ties to the first game showing you the infection has spread and its worse and the upcoming DLC shall cross l4d1 and l4d2 characters together also a dlc for l4d1 showing their way to where they meeted up so yeah i think it should be a sequel why not new campaigns characters weapons items seriously pretty fun game oh yeah new infected new modes and the campaigns all continue after another so i think it should be and sequel and thats my opinion.

  • Haha at that asshole. I'd love to see him try to make Left 4 Dead 3. I think that L4D1 was really a prequel, or a test. 2 was the finished copy, with tons more stuff.

  • L4D1 was amazing. L4D2 is a improved copy of the firt game. L4D2 is only a good move to earn easy money for Valve. Matt should win.

  • l4d 2 is a full game it even has two new game modes on it

  • full game i've played it and all the stuff that they added its the same as any other sequel just it came out quicker, i mean if cod 6 was released a year afterwards everyone would say the same thing because not much new stuff goes into a sequel anyway

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  • even if it was dlc, it would have been 60 bucks put together, but now you get the new graphics which are a bit better and you get the new death animations like zombies with big holes in them, and it gets to be more polished and shiny

  • If anyone still cares about this topic, consider Left 4 Dead 2 either a sequel, or 6 bundled DLC Packs (The five campaings + Scavenge)

  • lol and dont for get the melee weapons and new guns

  • obviusly is a full game with all the new stuff they put in and the ai director its defintly a full game

  • the ai director hasnt changed at all it just adds more zombies more often nothing different

  • well....i'd say it's a full sequel Although they could have changed like the models of pipebombs ,molotovs and so on.,..

    i love l4d 2 but it does have a bad side....it's not as funny as the original L4D...

    i mean...yeah Ellis says a lot of funny things but it doesn't contain the overal humour !

    Francis: I hate steam.....Pipes oh oh i LOVE STEAM

    Zoey: Yeah steams alright i guess.

    that's a funny reference from Crash course

  • i miss the old guys but thats where the dlc comes in if the dlc brings 8v8 ill shit my pants and rebuy the game and if they fix the servers also

  • same here,but i wont just shit my pants.... i will get a shitmania that lasts a week

  • fuck all u guys who says its a DLC because it has the meele feature with the ax and all that it has more guns it has the 3 new zombies and 5 campaigns also its in a whole diffrent state how the fuck is that dlc

  • full sequel

  • L4d 1 was so much betta than l4d2 it's unreal lol it more fun

  • i agree the lag on every fucking server i find is ubelievable i gave up and sold my left 4 dead 2 now im only cod :) and l4d1

  • stop kidding yourself. don't be the guy that's like "halo 1 was the best out of all three games!".

  • @bonedaddy258 It's true you dumbshit

  • @bonedaddy258 halo 1 was the best one though...

  • come on valve make some l4d that has a story and multiplayer separated and if not just make another half life

  • Dont get me wrong i like valve and l4d 2 but it wasent enough for me the story lines where not that great you basically do the samn thing in each round but with different inviorments and the new weapons where good but i was expecting more for my buck so i do feel that it is a DLC

  • He got a little bit pisses off lol

  • upper right pixel

  • DLC

  • DLC

  • rob can go finger his vagina

  • poor kovac :(

  • easy sequal :)

  • why are the characters here meant to be an improvement? they do shit all and really are just the same archetypes as those in left for dead one. plus the weapons feel sort of the same.

  • You're crazy if you think the weapons feel the same.

  • L4D2 is definitely sequel with all the stuff added there would be no way its dlc

  • l4d2 new gameplay mode=sequel? wtf mw2 add new gameplay modes in an update

  • It's a sequel...this video was released near the release date anyways shouldn't they have know that? Sequel or DLC I still would have loved it either way...speaking of DLC the old surviors are making a return appearence so now the game is perfected!

  • Deffinitley a sequel some people say its should be as a dlc but for the xbox it would be waaay to much for it to donwload for the people who have 6 gb hard drive your gonna have to delete about half your hard drive for that. People who say its a mod should stop complaining and deal with it.

  • DLC

  • Definatly a sequel. How are all theese items,settings,campaigns,chara­cters,infected, enemies, horde events, game modes. Too much to ever be a DLC. Of course Left 4 dead 2 is a sequel.

  • its a sequel retard

  • Question: Why is the game so short? Why can't they make the L4D games as long as, say, GTA 4? I'd love to see L4D3 have like 50 maps and be 50 hours long!

  • @clubsoda69

    I would like a Free roam ish left for dead

  • Though that would be cool. I find myself playing L4D more then a 50 hour game.

  • Definatly a sequal with all of the new things put in it's too much for a dlc

  • totally agree with the winner

  • dlc.

    Big time.

  • it's a sequel...

    Ai changed...

    Art and atmosphere changed...

    GAMEPLAY ACTUALLY CHANGED.

    Sequel and DLC is actually the same thing... but it depends on how much INSIDE THE CONTENT...

    It's personal opinion really

    for me, if there's more then 50% OVERALL change, then it's a sequel.

  • i HATE the stupid adds at the start of every video.

  • omg!! i think that the 3rd guy is dead pixel from inside gaming

  • whoa no way dumbass u just relized tht

  • sequel and that shawn or sean bitch things thinks in's not a new story!?! has he even seen both or is he just a bitch and hates xbox360?

  • totally a sequel! it has 5 new campaigns, 4 new characters, 3 new infected, and to many new guns to count.

  • the 3rd guy had a great point

  • L4D2 is way better then the first. like kovick said. if it was out 3 years later then others would be complaining

  • Well l4d1 was an entire new game. But l4d2 just copied that. nuff said.

  • improved ai??? more like deproved ai....

  • really l4d2 is a secuel 5 new campains new characters weapons plans enemies ways to fight 4 new game modes

  • I really enjoyed this nice game... I am not sure why some people give it such a bad review ..maybe I downloaded the wrong game from gamesblow. com

  • FUCK OFF EHARMONY

  • top left should have won again

  • valve even siad this "just because we brought out l4d2 dosent mean we are done with L4D.."

  • its a fucking dlc i meantheres nothing new about they get trapped with a bunch of zombies gotta find a helicopter and thats it a peace of SHIT!

  • It was a sequal. Upgraded engine, more features, more linear and had a somewhat of a narritave. But still focused on the original content.

    Lets hope Valve will release more DLC at a faster rate than they did with L4D. TF2 had a cubic assload of DLC yet barely any for L4D.

  • if it was a sequal, then how come they worked their butts off learning about savannian, and south east coast cultures? plus the new characters have a story

  • if l4d2 is a DLC then #1.Every sequal to every game ever is a DLC and #2.I am a drunken high midget monkey fucking a coconut while the coconut is sucking off george washington reincarnated as a cat with no legs or hair.

  • L4D2 is a sequel for sure...

    What pisses me off is that they didn't live up to their promise to deliver content to L4D1 and instead went to work on L4D2 right away.

    L4D2 is still epic.

    I haven't played L4D1 even once since I got L4D2, and I never will.

  • Well they did release Crash Course near the sequel's launch.

  • They promised new weapons, enemies and scenarios.

    Scenarios, in plural.

  • think about it like this if i was dlc it would cost about the same (unless your a pc gamer) because 5 new campaigns would be about 35 dollars. new guns would be about 10 dollars more so theirs 45 dollars. then new melee weapons would be 10 more dollars so there's 55 dollars. lastly a new game mode would probably cost around ten dollars which is 5 dollars more then paying for it new. so a sequal is what i qualifies as.

  • Who the fuck would pay $20 for new weapons? or $10 for a shitty new gamemode?

  • what a bad comment

    i agree with the price for a campaign but 20 for weapons? noooo

    plus you have no scale of weighing any of these

    MW2 added game modes before and after it was released for....free and one game mode for L4D2 is gonna cost 10 bucks? yea right

  • 1:38 too bad it looks like they copied and pasted the code for the survivor bots, i've seen them shoot the ground when a jockey was on me or someone else many times

  • one of the major reasons that L4D2 is a sequel is a major upgrade in the engine that they used. The 'director' was destroyed and made with a new foundation, and that is not possible for DLC or an update.

  • Top left guy guy is a douche and bottom right sounds retarded

  • @stevntylertoy and you act like a baby guarding its toy

  • Damn google stop fucking up youtube with these ads

  • Look GTA Expansions does everything L4D2 does- New campaigns, new characters, new weapons and modes but guess what its DLC. THIS IS DLC PERIOD.

  • yeah but they didnt change anything int he engine its exactly the same as the GTA iv engine all the code is the same not in l4d2 valve with the release of a new game they always upgrade the source engine

  • gtas expansions only give un new charaters weapons and story while u stay in the very same place u were in in gta4 left 4 dead 2 counts more than a expansion thus making it a sequel i mean a upgraded director , new characters , weapons, a new gameplay mechicanic and new additions to the special infected and common and new designs for old characters and some new abiltities for old foes as well with the witch being able to wounder around entirely new maps, story and a story arch which connects

  • the 5 campaigns together something the first left 4 dead did not do and new enviorment items like incindeary and explosive ammo, firework boxs which explode and defibulator unit which can revive dead surviors, and adrinalin for speed , plus two new game modes realism and scavange mode for multiplayer plus promise dlc for left 4 dead 2 so its a lot more than dlc my friend alot more so its a sequel

  • its not a dlc and not sequel but prequel

  • It takes place two weeks AFTER the first L4D. How is it a prequel?

  • @ChanceMcGavin no left 4 dead takes place 2 weeks after l4d 2 doesnt

  • @linkinparkrocker44 No. Even Valve (the guys who made the game)have repeatedly said L4D2 takes place AFTER the events in L4D. It even says it on the main website. Where are you getting this prequel stuff from?