Juge-t-on ici ,en mélomane objectif, la musique de Wagner,?
ou bien ,victîme ou acteur de la IIè Guerre mondiale,et y ayant heureusement survécu, , faut il porter un jugement de moralité ou d'humanisme sur un Wagner ,...
-(né lors du recrutement par Napoléon des conscrits de 1813 ,
(pour aller porter la démocratie chez les voisins,)-
....qui ayant vécu à une époque de germanisme romantique vainqueur en 1870 , mourut en 1883,sans avoir connu Hitler ni la IIè guerre mondiale
it would seem there are no modern day composers, this state of mind has died. i know of none, i guess passion is lost on this world, these things are not to be, ever again. sad and sweet at the same time.
The NAZIs rose to power because Hitler had TRUE " charisma " only about 7 people in history have really had it , They are. Jesus Christ ( probably ) , Alexander the Great , Kublai Khan , Charlemaine ( probably) Julas Cizar and Napoleon.. People only come up around after about 500 plus years who TRULY have it. The reason Hitler was so dangerous is because it was married by a monstrous racist philosophy AND modern technology. That's why we HAD to get rid of him
@castillianwagon500 What of Attila? Of Frederick Barbarossa? Of Genghis Khan? Of Tamerlane? Or Salah ad-Din? Every great conqueror, statesman or noteworthy king has had charisma. Some just got lucky and were great battle strategist and tacticians to boot. Hitler was absolute crap at military strategy. So comparing him to Alexander or Caesar is just pathetic. You should also try to spell Charelmagne and Julius Caesar right if you are going to preach history and anthropology to people.
@Ba4oKolio I am not teaching history. I am identifying a phenom called " CHARISMA " The two I left out was Candi of India and Genghis Kahn. Military strategy has nothing to do with charisma. Charisma extracts super human performance from followers. TRUE CHARISMA is extremely unusual. Maybe more people had it but it's way over used to describe current leadership. And I do have a 4 year degree in political science. And I was taught what I have stated.
true, hitler was crap, maybe his insanity towards the end of the war had something to do with it. but his generals, just picking out 2 random ones, Rommel and Paulus where geniouses. hitler conquered intire europe mainland in about a year or so. he just became insane during the last years and stopped listening to his generals, main reason they started losing so fast at the end. if the german generals dared to speak up to him it would've been a lot more difficult for the allied forces
Wagner's music was widely admired by the NAZIs and Wagner was anti semitic but his descendants ( maybe anti semitic maybe not ) did not like Hitler. And Israel banned the playing of Wagner's music until recently by their symphony orchestras.
This piece reminds me of very heavy fighting like between Russia & Germany in WW II.
It's nice that we had photography in Wagner's time so we can see what he looked like.
@castillianwagon I heard little joke about him. During occupation my country (Protectorate Czech and Moravia), jewish enslaved prisoners got orders from SS to tear down statue of one jewish musician from one of our theatres. But nazis did not said to prisoners which statue exactly. So jewishs tear down statue with big nose... they tear down Wagner. :D
Actually the Classic Era was 1770-1820 (with Haydn, Salieri, Boccherini and Beethoven etc). The Years between 1600 and 1750 was the baroque-era (Purcell, Monteverdi, Bach and Vivaldi etc) :) and between the baroque-era and the classical era there was the short Rococo-era (1750-1770) with composers like the sons of J S Bach and of course Gluck and Stamitz.
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Mr28Ruslan 1 week ago
too repetitive
chinessgirl 2 weeks ago
Apocalypse Now
josefilipesampaio 2 months ago
Kill the wabbit kill the wabbit kill the wabbit.
hailmary7283 5 months ago
Simplesmente, humano.
Armando1735 9 months ago
is ok Jesus left me out
Syzygy60 9 months ago
Juge-t-on ici ,en mélomane objectif, la musique de Wagner,?
ou bien ,victîme ou acteur de la IIè Guerre mondiale,et y ayant heureusement survécu, , faut il porter un jugement de moralité ou d'humanisme sur un Wagner ,...
-(né lors du recrutement par Napoléon des conscrits de 1813 ,
(pour aller porter la démocratie chez les voisins,)-
....qui ayant vécu à une époque de germanisme romantique vainqueur en 1870 , mourut en 1883,sans avoir connu Hitler ni la IIè guerre mondiale
75013bernard 1 year ago
it would seem there are no modern day composers, this state of mind has died. i know of none, i guess passion is lost on this world, these things are not to be, ever again. sad and sweet at the same time.
nstikskll 1 year ago
@nstikskll the passion is in Jazz
tesmith47 8 months ago
k now watch "watchmen - dr manhattan" and click on the vid with the blue guy
and see what you think lol
jjjackson5564 1 year ago
this is fuckin baddass!
999painkiller666 1 year ago
no wonder the nazis rose to power without hesitation, i would too if they played this... and thats honest talk, dont try to hide it.
Gsaror 2 years ago
The NAZIs rose to power because Hitler had TRUE " charisma " only about 7 people in history have really had it , They are. Jesus Christ ( probably ) , Alexander the Great , Kublai Khan , Charlemaine ( probably) Julas Cizar and Napoleon.. People only come up around after about 500 plus years who TRULY have it. The reason Hitler was so dangerous is because it was married by a monstrous racist philosophy AND modern technology. That's why we HAD to get rid of him
castillianwagon500 2 years ago
@castillianwagon500 What of Attila? Of Frederick Barbarossa? Of Genghis Khan? Of Tamerlane? Or Salah ad-Din? Every great conqueror, statesman or noteworthy king has had charisma. Some just got lucky and were great battle strategist and tacticians to boot. Hitler was absolute crap at military strategy. So comparing him to Alexander or Caesar is just pathetic. You should also try to spell Charelmagne and Julius Caesar right if you are going to preach history and anthropology to people.
Ba4oKolio 1 year ago
@Ba4oKolio I am not teaching history. I am identifying a phenom called " CHARISMA " The two I left out was Candi of India and Genghis Kahn. Military strategy has nothing to do with charisma. Charisma extracts super human performance from followers. TRUE CHARISMA is extremely unusual. Maybe more people had it but it's way over used to describe current leadership. And I do have a 4 year degree in political science. And I was taught what I have stated.
castillianwagon500 1 year ago
@Ba4oKolio Oh yeah I left out Jesus Christ.
castillianwagon500 1 year ago
@Ba4oKolio
true, hitler was crap, maybe his insanity towards the end of the war had something to do with it. but his generals, just picking out 2 random ones, Rommel and Paulus where geniouses. hitler conquered intire europe mainland in about a year or so. he just became insane during the last years and stopped listening to his generals, main reason they started losing so fast at the end. if the german generals dared to speak up to him it would've been a lot more difficult for the allied forces
RCsev070 11 months ago
MAGNIFICOOOO que hermosa musica la de wagner...
369vero 2 years ago 2
magnificient
Rustinwilson 2 years ago 2
This music will last way after our spoken languages are evolved into forms that we can't understand today.
castillianwagon 2 years ago 3
man stop smoking that shit... just kidding i agree
juandeplaza 2 years ago
Wagner's music was widely admired by the NAZIs and Wagner was anti semitic but his descendants ( maybe anti semitic maybe not ) did not like Hitler. And Israel banned the playing of Wagner's music until recently by their symphony orchestras.
This piece reminds me of very heavy fighting like between Russia & Germany in WW II.
It's nice that we had photography in Wagner's time so we can see what he looked like.
castillianwagon 2 years ago 15
@castillianwagon I heard little joke about him. During occupation my country (Protectorate Czech and Moravia), jewish enslaved prisoners got orders from SS to tear down statue of one jewish musician from one of our theatres. But nazis did not said to prisoners which statue exactly. So jewishs tear down statue with big nose... they tear down Wagner. :D
kikirikikirlafsdfskd 5 months ago
Wagner's descendants detested Hitler.
castillianwagon500 2 years ago
What's your point?
ecnalubma696969 2 years ago
This is truley epic
929Hunter 2 years ago 3
what??? 86 views?? does no one listen to classical music.. what a same!!!
ohmramm 2 years ago 2
Technically this isn't "classical" this is from the Romantic Era (1825-1900) the Classical period was 1600-1750 (and of course i'm being a smartass)
USA4LFC 2 years ago 26
yes sir, you are! hahaha just kiding, it's nice to know history! bravo! :)
ohmramm 2 years ago
Actually the Classic Era was 1770-1820 (with Haydn, Salieri, Boccherini and Beethoven etc). The Years between 1600 and 1750 was the baroque-era (Purcell, Monteverdi, Bach and Vivaldi etc) :) and between the baroque-era and the classical era there was the short Rococo-era (1750-1770) with composers like the sons of J S Bach and of course Gluck and Stamitz.
Stravinsky91 2 years ago 2
@USA4LFC the baroque period was 1600-1750, the classical period was 1750-1820, and the romantic period was 1810-1920 (so who's the smartass now :))
mastermusic99 8 months ago 4
An absolutely amazing piece! Wagner is a genius!
earthatic 2 years ago