I'm constantly amazed at how some people just end up childishly insulting each other when leaving a comment on Youtube rather than say something insightful or relevant to the topic.
ending the world hunger by feeding everyone is the stupidest idea ever; it would eventually lead to a further increase in population of the "suffering" hungry nations resulting only in an even more horrendous relapse.
the problem of people starving isn't the lack of food but the existence of too many people to feed. some regions of the planet aren't capable to sustain human life effectively.
You made me envision a future where everyone in these regions have starved to death, and condoms litter the ground and tumble in the wind.
Not actually what would happen. I'm not shooting you down, and you're right that just sending food isn't the answer. But, of course, just more condoms wouldn't help either. They need the means to produce their own food, they need no one else to take it from them, and they need education to compete with other economies and control their birth rates.
Whether we like it or not, we are all involved in what is happening in the world. Whatever our own lifestyle, we know very well that many individuals have a disproportionate standard of living and live as if poverty and poor nations do not exist. Each individual’s awareness can encourage others to follow the example and contribute to a collective understanding that is able to transform the world..
Whether we like it or not, we are all involved in what is happening in the world. Whatever our own lifestyle, we know very well that many individuals have a disproportionate standard of living and live as if poverty and poor nations do not exist.
i also want to buy this "wawa mum", so that my brain has everything it needs, because i don't feel that my diet modern processed food can give my brain everything it needs.
Governments will lose a lot by producing food and distributing it to the poor but they'll gain a lot by producing weapons and selling them to the same people.
Until gain and loss are swapped, world hunger will not be important to developed countries till it impends them.
The problem is that the UN has been saying this line for 50 years, and so far things have only gotten worse in Africa. I would be thrilled if they had the magic bullets and all we need to do is give more money, but historically this has not been the case. I'm not saying we shouldn't give, but we should give with realistic expectations. Also, we can't let a lack of money be a red herring distracting us from the causes of hunger we can change, like food and biofuel subsidies in rich countries.
Actually they need to be both; if you just feed them the'll eventually start starving again (and maybe make a couple of new hungry mouths in the process) if you just educate them they'll starve to death before they can do anything about it.
@ooshitube Yeah, fuck starving people. They deserve to die for allowing themselves to get screwed by governments and the powerful. If lots of people are out of work in the US soon we should just let them die in the streets too cuz poor people arent real people
no the line in the sand would be to figure out a way to tell those who cannot feed thereselfs to QUIT HAVING KIDS.....under her plan to "save the world" there would be 10xs as many people starving. nobody every said the experience of the world was a walk in the park so they need to learn to pull there own weight and not have kids if they wont.
I say population control, she say's genocide. Africa cannot support the ammount of people it has why do you want to let them kill themselves. They have to learn the hard way like europeans and asians did. and invest less in military and more in economic development
ye hunger is awful , and its sad to see all those people starving , but if they wouldnt be 1000 years behind the rest of the world on that continent they would be in a much better place, stop populating just stop if they dont have enough brain power to make the simple decision to bring new people to this world then why the hell should we care ? And support them for the rest of our lives if they dont wanna do a single thing to help themselves ?
society puts us through a gold sifter, except the heaviest parts (mind and soul) are not the aim. they drop through, but for the sake of separation. for if we were ever to actually harness them we'd realize we're being sifted--underwhelmed in under-capacity.
You know, supermarket based growing generation never ever will know what is the cause of hunger. When your requirements are in place, your mind is blind and ready for enjoyment only. Look at the cover page of the TIME magazine, do you really like to see how the hungry mother's physical condition is, the supermarket generation can only see up to that picture, believe it or not - ask your mind about that picture (2:50). I know I am from third world country. Developed world need moral uplift.
Isn't Africa the ideal opportunity to increase global economics? Investing in Africa so that not only Africa is hungry, but also the ghetto's in America or the lower class of Britain. They arent living to well either, it's just got to do with power and greed at the end of the day corruption etc. People should stop being so f*cking selfish,
If people had the mentality to work together they would all be profitable and benefitial for eachother, but i guess its not in the human nature which is sad.
First, they still have children KNOWING full well that they will starve to death.
Second, Why would I want to fund well being of people who in other circumstances would be my competition?
Third, Will those people listen to your "white propaganda bullshit designed to oppress them"? Myself being from third-world I can tell you that FUCK NO THEY WONT!
Fourth, I'd rather see money spent on science developments than on helping other people for whom I don't care - you wouldn't fund a lazy hippie
Please look at the National Geography document, the lion has been treated for bad teeth in Africa by the white people from US, at the same time the people in Africa are without food. We have to uplift the humanity not the technology.
The point many commentators miss is that handing food out, for free, would require a huge mobilization of labor and resources. No matter it might be small in face of the overall agricultural system, it is still huge. People, from the techie operating a farm tractor to the geneticist working to control agricultural pests, they wouldn't be willing to work for free, nor would suppliers of everything be engaged in such largess. You know, people like to be rewarded for their results.
It is horrible to have so much hunger in the world. This speaker has brilliant solutions, yet it doesn't solve the driving force behind hunger - population growth. Historically population growth always outpaces increases in food production. Unless we can match the pace of those two things it will always be a struggle to cure world hunger. People who are well fed tend to live longer and have more offspring, increasing the demand for food. Technology helps, but the Earth's resources are limited.
@phasedreality1 I dont think population growth alone is the problem, look at the way cities and space is set up, in clusters, for instance a city like London has over 6 million people, and people live on top of each other in flats
Now the same is in other parts of the world, they is a lot of space and if we can find logistic solutions to meet demands in other areas then this would be a possibility
@cristoretornebiblia You are right of course, population isn't the only problem. I didn't intend to make the claim that we are running out of space for people to house themselves anytime soon. My point is that if population growth and necessarily demand for food outpaces increases in food production, we cannot hope to eliminate hunger. To sustain our current exponential population explosion without hunger, we need a strategy to address this unfortunate relationship.
@michael616joaquin Then do you realize you are part of a larger society? You try to benefit them and at the same time say we don't need to feed them at all and we don't need them.
@SikhiArt larger society where? Africa?? i live in London and believe me i'm trying to get them out. They have kids knowing they'll starve, fuck them.
@michael616joaquin Ok sure. There is wisdom is your own words that you are not recognizing. My suggestion would be to contemplate your views words until you see it.
@SikhiArt i do believe me. When people come to my country and my tax pays for them to do nothing, it annoys me. When i have people begging me in the streets for thousands of starving African kids, it bothers me. Aids has been a blessing to Africa, i just hope a new strain comes out that's quicker.
@michael616joaquin Hmm... sure, I can relate a little bit to that sentiment.
I have some questions: Who is this "you" that you talk about? Is "you" some memories of the past that are remembered? or your body that you are referring to? some photos from the past? What is it?
@SikhiArt i guess you can have 2 answers and choose. 1 an aspect of a greater concious channel into my body giving me the perception of being and individual and having experience or 2 the matter of my brain producing a personality type.
@michael616joaquin Well, notice how those answers are pretty much the same.
So if that is the answer then what does "your society" mean? Is it your house? your neighbourhood? the country? the planet? the solar system? the universe?
@SikhiArt Actually they're not, one is based on metaphysics, the other not. My society is something i build or am apart of actively. Personally just because i live in a geographical area doesn't mean to me i am apart of that society. For me it must be a willing participation AND 2 way thing.
Let's go back to the answers you gave. They appear different. They might tackle the reality from two different perspectives. But what have they really stated?
For a two-way society you need functional members in a society. But why aren't some functional? You will find that if you extend unconditional awareness and aid to those are the dysfunctional they transform into something functional. right?
I am from the third world country, where hunger exist, wondering why see did not mention the use of Internet like hungersite(dot)com to donate a cup of food everyday just by clicking. If all us do this everyday, hunger will vanish in a day. The solution she is explaining is technological, be careful technology will not solve any humanitarian problem, our moral participation will do.
@mdmahmud You need to solve the root of hunger related issues.. people cant depend on handouts to survive. If you give the people the tools necessary to feed themselves then no one will go hungry. A steady supply of food donations is a short term solution that may do long term harm by not teaching people how to survive on their own.
@theonlygus You are very true. I really appreciate you thinking. Till I am in the side of moral participation then any technical solutions. At present we have Internet, connected world, if we can't utilize this connection then the problem will be open ended .... human need human we need to work on that direction ... we are sharing information .. are we sharing food?
Our economic system is the reason there is poverty and hunger. It is not profitable to give poor people the food they need to survive. It is not profitable to produce such a large supply of food that it becomes cheap enough for everyone to buy (supply & demand).
If we weren't limited by the monetary system we could easily build hydroponic sky scrapers to feed to entire planet.
People need to realize that most of our problems are systemic. Our societies are not designed to provide to people.
@IHighLikePlane The economic or political or any other social systems are not responsible for poverty. Simply because the present connected world is beyond any social system, it is individuals choice to act and if we act together poverty will eliminate. No one to blame except blaming us. We have to uplift our moral, unfortunately develop world don't have that. That is the reality. Look "Apple holding more cash than USA". Apple has expansive fancy products for developed world.
@SourcesAreEverything Well, why isn't it being distributed? Because it isn't profitable. In other words it would be contrary to our current economic system to feed poor and starving people.
@IHighLikePlane But who would build it? Why would anyone do work if a monetary system doesn't exist? Where will the supplies come from? Will people just ship oil around the world to operate machines that are made without paying someone to make it and ship it, to build farm skyscrapers? It goes far deeper than that.
"why would anyone do work if a monetary system doesn't exist?"
it is feeble imaginations like this that only perpetuate the current mess.
people would work for work itself. for its necessity. for their enlightenment. for their enjoyment. for their contribution to others. but first their survival requirements must be met. it's funny actually. tying work to mere survival is actually less productive compared to work unbound to it. but the top ringers aren't done milking us yet.
@xjustamem0ryx Here, I'll give you an example. In Vancouver, it costs the city $55,000 per homeless person for policing, medical bills, etc. It only costs the city $21,000 to give them an apartment if they agree to simple terms such as keeping the place clean, staying off drugs, and working. So then with that, why would anyone earning minimum wage (far below $21k) want to pay for their own apartment anymore? If money can be created like that, then why can't the world make money for them as well?
@IHighLikePlane Actually, there is enough food produced for everyone but it is cheaper to simply dump it than send it to the third-world countries. There is a world food surplus, but the prices are kept unnaturally high, especially by stock-traders who artificially boost the price by speculating on the market. Okay, that more or less is the point you were making, as it is a problem within the system.
"If we weren't limited by the monetary system we could easily build hydroponic sky scrapers to feed to entire planet."
I've seen the japanese vertical gardens. They're damn expensive. Their expense comes from
1. The skills needed to plan and build them
2. The effort needed to build them
3. The materials needed to build them
It doesn't matter if you're paying in potatoes or dollars, they cost money. They need capital investment. Please explain how the monetary system hurts.
1) Using the internet, everyone on Earth can have the best education FOR FREE.
2) Many people volunteer, I'm sure people would volunteer their effort to end world hunger and insure a permanent FREE food supply for humanity.
3) We shouldn't have to "pay" for materials that were part of this planet long before humans existed. People owning life saving resources and hording them is corrupt.
The monetary system is a power scheme, not a true economy. We need a Resource Based Economy.
1. You cannot guarantee personal interaction, or competency with using the internet, and therefore, cannot assume that anyone can get an education straight from the internet.
2. Nothing is free, and never will it be. You have to put in effort to get anything out. All the way back to hunting and gathering.
3. You should pay for the work that someone else did in getting it to you. Real money isn't Federal Reserve notes. I agree that a power scheme controls those.
@axelasdf You are wrong on all counts. I'm not going to even bother refuting your points again.
The idea that individuals and small groups can own resources is the reason why there is so much pollution, social stratification, environmental destruction, and corruption.
Monetary free for all markets isn't the only way to do things. It is provably unsustainable and if continued will lead to our destruction, it isnt profitable to ensure a healthy environment. Please watch Zeitgeist Moving Forward
@IHighLikePlane The issues don't lie in production of food but access. Increasing access encourages the development of microeconomic systems and educated workforces. Contrary to what you're saying, economic forces are ultimately what will eradicate poverty because it is, in fact, profitable to have a well-fed populace. All that is needed is the right initiatives and incentives from world leaders as alluded to at the end of the talk. Not some sort of Zeitgeist-esque utopian scheme.
@VINsational331 Why do poor people lack an access to food, its because they don't have money.
We can't use an economy that relies on human labor forever. The human being is obsolete for most tasks when compared with technology. Compound this with the exponential increase in technological advancement and you have an economic system that is doomed to fail as things like self checkout and online ordering becomes the mainstream.
Scientific societies are emergent, thus there is no "utopia".
@IHighLikePlane Lmao Zeitard. Get lost. Economic illiterates shouldn't comment about....you know economics. "Hydroponic sky scrapers" aren't going to pop out of thin air. They will require resources and man-power.
@H1TMANactual Lmao economic doctrine tard. Stop spouting your free for all religion and learn to critically think. You know some ideological pseudo economics so you close your mind to all other alternatives.
I agree hydro sky scrapers require man power and resources, but they don't require currency of any kind. There are many things we could do if we weren't suffocated by a self serving ideological corrupt unsustainable environment destroying war provoking poverty inducing "economic system".
@IHighLikePlane Yeah much rather have free for all than another failed centrally planned economy b/c some moron saw a bullshit yt video LOL
And hydro sky scrapers are possible and 7 bn can live without ever working again? Why? B/c some moron who never built shit in his life told you so in a yt video? Sure you gullible fuck.
And price and profit measures scarcity. And which economics system? Singapore, Hong Kong etc seems to be doing just fine. Like I said economic illiterate. Shut the fuck up.
@H1TMANactual Engineers have already designed these facilities so we know they are possible. People will always be working. However, in an RBE they wouldn't be wage slaves to a corporation doing meaninless tasks that are a waste of their human potential. Machines can do a better job waiting tables and building bridges than people ever could anyway.
The price system favors scarcity, thus we will never see an abundance of anything (food, shelter, etc.) in this system. So poverty is inevitable.
@IHighLikePlane 1. And why did engineers built it? It's called profit motive. That's what drives technology. That's why your iphone 4 is cheaper and better than iphone 1.
2. Nope they wouldn't be wage slaves but we would all be slaves to the central planner.
3. Machines/robots can't even walk up a flight of stairs let alone build bridges #FAIL
4. Is there more food and shelter than 100 years ago? Then price system favors abundance, central planning doesn't.
I don't understand why she was speaking at TED. This talk looked to me like just another karma selling pitch.
First half of it even had the typical feel bad photos with starving children. I hate those! Of course everyone deserves to have food for the day, but (implicitly) telling people they are bad people and should give more of their possesions to those in need is just plain wrong..
Second half was better where she actually showed how it has gotten better. But still I didn't see her point.
I cannot believe how uneducated some of these viewers are. Look at their stupid comments below. Go read a book, you know that stack of papers that's bound at the edge.
Hunger is just a symptom of the disease, and you never cure by treating symptoms. It's actually funny how occidentals are convinced it's a matter of condoms... we sold them guns before hoes, and though they don't have technology for farming their oil and uranium extraction activities are running perfectly fine. Hunger is a matter of politics simply that, and we should be thankfull to it for everything we own.
The hunger problem is a resource problem. There is more resources for each of us if we stop breeding plus give transparency so people stop letting leaders take advantage of them.
Generation 1: Feed 1 man and 1 woman and they get together and have 3 children.
Generation 2: Feed 2 Adults and 3 Growing children.
Generation 3: Feed 2 old adults, 3 young adults and their children.
Generation 4: Feed 5 Adults and 6 children.
Its just not sustainable. As much as we all would love to help these people, we have to admit that handing out billions of dollars worth of food every year will not fix the problem. We need more solutions condoms being one of them.
@meotaku2 So that means that we can let them starve? It is possible to adress several problems at a time you know. Also it is very clear from the data that birth rates go down as wealth increases. THerefore helping to end hunger and poverty is one of the most effective ways to adress overpopulation.
@reafdaw01. Having a smaller family also means that more family income is available for each child. It is all very sad that the West has been feeding people in famines in the horn of Africa for 30 years and yet they still have the same problems now.
@meotaku2 Well yes that is sad. However it is naive to assume that it is because of personal choice alone. The west has been exploiting africa economically for hunderds of years. Imperialism has left a big scare and subsidies on goods and other protective measures have hindered economic developement. Of course it is not all our fault, bad political decisions and superstition and religious beliefs play a important role aswell.
Still: letting people strave is neither a solution nor decent.
@reafdaw01. I never said not to help. Of course people cannot be left to starve, that would be inhuman. I also do not buy the `its all the fault of the imperialists` arguement. The African nations have been independent for 50 years now and have received billions in aid and loans (now written off). The African leaders are mostly to blame for their corruption.
@meotaku2 Just sending food is a bad idea and just treating the symptoms not the decease. But that is a discussion on how to help not wether we should help. You seem to argue for not helping which is just wrong. Empathy is one of the things that make us human and we should act on it.
Some people act like every video at TED is required viewing. No one is forcing you. If you have criticism of the talk's content, then go ahead and make them. But dismissing an issue like world hunger because you're not interested is not something WE all need to know. This should be your private shame, not something to freely admit.
Well..Sounds cruel but this is natural selection.We simply cant supply enough food and even if we wanted they would just reproduce even more and more...thats why there is a problem, Because they are overpopulated.
@alphakristjan I love how you use "We" and "them", as though the people starving have absolutely no connection to us, nothing more than an infomerical on TV. Your also wrong. There is enough food currently to feed everyone on the planet, only we dont distribute food evenly. And its a fact that impoverished people have more children than those of better means, in other words people have less kids the better off they are.
real scarcity is one thing, but humans further artificially dress it with politics and inefficient/neglectful/wasteful/apathetic distribution. these things make it more than just a matter of mere scarcity. though even when all those things have been cured, real scarcity will still be there to equalize that viral species--but at least they won't be "equalizing" one another...
it's dangerous relegating contingent/modifiable/fickle human behavior as merely natural selection.
if they haven't already by then created a fully synthetic, inorganic planet with no need for nature...but, even then, if we could manage no real scarcity, humans would still find a pretense for it.
If a place does not have food, it either lacks the means to produce or distribute food. The former can be fixed by building infrastructure, whereas the latter requires drug lords, war lords, and other violent entities be neutralized. They create an atmosphere that makes it difficult or impossible for people to live secure lives, and to expand and mature economically.
She says: "I find it unacceptable that children wake up and don't know where to find a cup of food."
I say: "I find it unacceptable that PARENTS and CULTURES exist who apparently are DISINTERESTED in acquiring the knowledge and methods necessary--even though they ARE available to anyone who would seriously seek them--to keep their children fed.
@GetMeThere1 You have a naive view of the world in which equality exists. Parents and cultures try to feed their children but in our economy there are some who are loosers and it is not necessarily their fault. We don't start all out the same, that is not only true for individuals but also for countrys.
@reafdaw01 says "You have a naive view of the world..." Really? I know that humans have been feeding themselves for hundreds of thousands of years. I know that ALL the ancestors of humans now starving managed to feed themselves. How is it that so many for so long have managed to feed themselves, but now they can't? Could it be that you're naive? Or that "what you know" is just what people "feed" into your head?
@GetMeThere1 For the most part of human history it was normal for big parts of humanity to starve to death because of famins. In europe famines were very common until around 15th century when due to the import of potatoes our foodbase was imroved. Still after that there were many famines. The Great Irish Famine comes to mind. We only recently really eliminated huge famines with the "green revolution" due to the invention of the Haber-Bosch process and the ability to produce fertilizer it brings.
@reafdaw01 : I'm sorry that....you're too UNBEARABLY clueless for me to summon the patience to explain my comment to you. But...I'm not SURPRISED; a certain sort of puffed up sanctimony is often associated with dim wits.
@GetMeThere1 LOL so it goes: claim, attempted refutation, facts to show why refutation fails and then arrogant and insulting comments without substance to distract from the fact you were wrong.
The Nigerians are starving because, apparently, they're moving all their money from their banks into the accounts of random Americans they meet through email...
The main problem is there is no economy to speak of. Why do charities have to guarantee local farmers that their crops will be purchased? Because noone else can make it worth that farmer's time to grow the crops. The locked silos are a REALLY good idea. Those are the type of simple infrastructure improvements that encourage local agricultural production and the ability to save without food rotting or being easily stolen.
We need to think: what can these people do to demand food from the market?
@otur1 Well that's sort of the all around problem isn't it? If europeans undercut local farmers by pumping in free food, why should farmers grow crops? I'm all for aid, but it has to be scaled back and not be such a warping and overpowering influence. We need to focus on giving these people the tools and technology to allow them to increase their own well being. Tools that are "sustainable", i.e. not a half million dollar tractor they have no idea how to repair. You make a good point.
@otur1 I disagree. I think people mean well. There's always politics involved in any large operation, but I think people get in to it to do the right thing. We must put as much or more effort in figuring out what to do instead of just reacting.
what if, we gave afrika farmers the best GM seeds to grow and harvest nutritious food?? oh wait we did!! but dictators turned it dowb because greenpeace isnt down with GM crops. too bad afrika!!
Perhaps it's saying something about our species that we cannot supply food for the demand of our population. In nature, this would balance itself out. So should we be feeding this disproportion?
Sounded like the successful programs included the local farmers, which IMHO, is what has been missing in the equation so far. Sending our food halfway around the world is useful in a disaster, but it is not a fix to a systemic problem.
There's a lot of great initiative happening here, but I'd like to entertain the following proposal as well: If you live in a place that you cannot leave and where you cannot yet muster the means to feed a child... don't have one. Am I out of line to propose such a thing?
@GrapplingIgnorance They have no choice. It's not about choosing whether or not to have children or not. Its about survival as a species. It's a base need of all human beings to reproduce to continue the species. If these people never have children because they cant feed them, you will have entire countries dieing out.
We easily have all the technologies we need to end world hunger today. However, it's not profitable, so this will never happen until we discard our broken, failing system.
@Tekros I'm open to having my mind changed on this issue, but that angle isn't going to do it. It's a human desire to reproduce, but it's not a human need. I don't have kids and I don't plan to. Having children is not essential to live. Not having more and more generations growing through mal-nourishment is not going to kill a country- it will just reduce its population. If the people there eventually die off without more starving generations to replace them it does no harm to that generation.
@otur1 I agree- so my proposal is that we push to make condoms pleasurable, affordable and trendy, and educate people about the odds/risks/chances involved with having sex. Celibacy is an option, especially if you carefully weigh the potential consequence of bringing a child into this world that is likely to starve itself because you don't have the means to provide for it. Having a child that you aren't able to care for is irresponsible in my opinion.
@otur1 I'm not suggesting that kids who are born into poverty be blamed for their parents accidents or irresponsibility. I'm only suggesting that those potential parents under the means where they can't provide for a child (no matter where they live, or who they are) make the responsible choice to not have kids they can't take care of.
@otur1 That was a very strange video to send. What made you think I was a proponent of rape, or that people ARE always rational? My point is that people SHOULD be more rational. I don't think that's an earth-shattering suggestion.
I was merly trying to focus on reality rather than platitudes. In Africa, which was the focus on this talk from TED, rape (for example) is a sad reality.
Moreover, they are heavily influenced by the dark side of religion (no birthcontrol, no masturbation).
@otur1 I have no disagreement with that, and I have nothing against helping children. I am all for education of people and the removal of deleterious religious movements. In fact, I consider those things essential to people being capable of having the highest potential control over their own lives, including pregnancies.
It's a desire for those who live in the "Western" world because there's no need for everyone to have 3 kids, or even one. For us it's terrible if one child doesn't make it. In your third world countries, infant mortality is so high, its a miracle if one child lives to the age of 20.
It's quite literally an entirely different world with a vastly different way of living.
@Tekros You've explained that infant mortality rate there is high. I completely agree- that is one of the issues this video is trying to address. You have not explained to me why people NEED to have children under conditions that they know they can't afford to provide the basic essentials for them. I'm looking for you to explain to me why in 3rd world countries people are apparently required to have kids, even if the responsible choice is to not have them if you can't provide for them.
I sympathize a lot with Josette, during the firsts part of the speech you could see she almost cried when she was talking about hunger in Africa, and that make me very sad too. I think her idea is very great not to mention her really great intentions, overall this is an excellent speech.
Cry me a river. Mostly its famine / Muslims who are sent aid and so on. Meanwhile the rich muslims live like gods and dont give a fuck, Watch them build islands, buy football clubs and play solitaire with economies. This is the real face of Islam. Meanwhile well meaning liberals give a shit whilst their real concern should be focussed inland. Watch your neighbours first - there is no global community.
I'm constantly amazed at how some people just end up childishly insulting each other when leaving a comment on Youtube rather than say something insightful or relevant to the topic.
monkeyrecordsnz 3 months ago 5
How do i start helping
jinsi 4 months ago
WTF people?!
ending the world hunger by feeding everyone is the stupidest idea ever; it would eventually lead to a further increase in population of the "suffering" hungry nations resulting only in an even more horrendous relapse.
the problem of people starving isn't the lack of food but the existence of too many people to feed. some regions of the planet aren't capable to sustain human life effectively.
if you want to help them send condoms, NOT food
trizmisce 6 months ago
You made me envision a future where everyone in these regions have starved to death, and condoms litter the ground and tumble in the wind.
Not actually what would happen. I'm not shooting you down, and you're right that just sending food isn't the answer. But, of course, just more condoms wouldn't help either. They need the means to produce their own food, they need no one else to take it from them, and they need education to compete with other economies and control their birth rates.
purplefuzzythings 5 months ago
Whether we like it or not, we are all involved in what is happening in the world. Whatever our own lifestyle, we know very well that many individuals have a disproportionate standard of living and live as if poverty and poor nations do not exist. Each individual’s awareness can encourage others to follow the example and contribute to a collective understanding that is able to transform the world..
WriterMero 6 months ago
Whether we like it or not, we are all involved in what is happening in the world. Whatever our own lifestyle, we know very well that many individuals have a disproportionate standard of living and live as if poverty and poor nations do not exist.
WriterMero 6 months ago
i also want to buy this "wawa mum", so that my brain has everything it needs, because i don't feel that my diet modern processed food can give my brain everything it needs.
1schwererziehbar1 6 months ago
Ignorance runs deep.
Stsilascousteau 6 months ago
people need to not have 10 kids and expect us to feed them
bobojr456 6 months ago
Governments will lose a lot by producing food and distributing it to the poor but they'll gain a lot by producing weapons and selling them to the same people.
Until gain and loss are swapped, world hunger will not be important to developed countries till it impends them.
MCAMVP 7 months ago
The problem is that the UN has been saying this line for 50 years, and so far things have only gotten worse in Africa. I would be thrilled if they had the magic bullets and all we need to do is give more money, but historically this has not been the case. I'm not saying we shouldn't give, but we should give with realistic expectations. Also, we can't let a lack of money be a red herring distracting us from the causes of hunger we can change, like food and biofuel subsidies in rich countries.
mbmicahbrown 7 months ago
She said sth new and now evrth will change. We are different after this lecture. We dont want people to starve.
If this is so easy, why she didnt mantion how to do it? She used a lot of cliches but said no concrete way to act.
So its a waste of time, and id rather watch some shit on youtube.
qbacoval 7 months ago
Hungry people need to be EDUCATED not fed.
ChrisAmosPhotography 7 months ago
@ChrisAmosPhotography
pablo7876 7 months ago
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@ChrisAmosPhotography "Hungry people need to be EDUCATED not fed."
Actually they need to be both; if you just feed them the'll eventually start starving again (and maybe make a couple of new hungry mouths in the process) if you just educate them they'll starve to death before they can do anything about it.
MarkArandjus 7 months ago
Be aware ! You have to hate the ones you hurt. Off mark comments are a way of letting yourself off the hook
3877michael 7 months ago
they just do fucking and don't want to work or to evaluate. so because of that they are so poor and have hunger
ooshitube 7 months ago
@ooshitube Yeah, fuck starving people. They deserve to die for allowing themselves to get screwed by governments and the powerful. If lots of people are out of work in the US soon we should just let them die in the streets too cuz poor people arent real people
Keinlicht 7 months ago
Women like this cant do presentations they get all fucking hysterical and emotional and get all ridiculously preachy
Maplesyrup41 7 months ago
Worldwide Plant Fruit Trees in 2011, We dont know what tomorrow will bring!!
FruitTrees4Life 7 months ago
"When a leader says 'Not under my watch.', everything begins to change".
-Quick glimpse at current governments & politicians-
Yeeaah, we're gonna have to wait for a long, long while for that to happen.
exonerator 7 months ago
no the line in the sand would be to figure out a way to tell those who cannot feed thereselfs to QUIT HAVING KIDS.....under her plan to "save the world" there would be 10xs as many people starving. nobody every said the experience of the world was a walk in the park so they need to learn to pull there own weight and not have kids if they wont.
noahalmighty77 7 months ago
I say population control, she say's genocide. Africa cannot support the ammount of people it has why do you want to let them kill themselves. They have to learn the hard way like europeans and asians did. and invest less in military and more in economic development
BenFosterism 7 months ago
ye hunger is awful , and its sad to see all those people starving , but if they wouldnt be 1000 years behind the rest of the world on that continent they would be in a much better place, stop populating just stop if they dont have enough brain power to make the simple decision to bring new people to this world then why the hell should we care ? And support them for the rest of our lives if they dont wanna do a single thing to help themselves ?
Demonwicked 7 months ago
Answer: don't eat meat
TheLiberalSoup 7 months ago
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society puts us through a gold sifter, except the heaviest parts (mind and soul) are not the aim. they drop through, but for the sake of separation. for if we were ever to actually harness them we'd realize we're being sifted--underwhelmed in under-capacity.
xjustamem0ryx 7 months ago
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xjustamem0ryx 7 months ago
You know, supermarket based growing generation never ever will know what is the cause of hunger. When your requirements are in place, your mind is blind and ready for enjoyment only. Look at the cover page of the TIME magazine, do you really like to see how the hungry mother's physical condition is, the supermarket generation can only see up to that picture, believe it or not - ask your mind about that picture (2:50). I know I am from third world country. Developed world need moral uplift.
mdmahmud 7 months ago
Who disliked this? Seriously this is one of the best talks I've seen
ncurran1987 7 months ago
Isn't Africa the ideal opportunity to increase global economics? Investing in Africa so that not only Africa is hungry, but also the ghetto's in America or the lower class of Britain. They arent living to well either, it's just got to do with power and greed at the end of the day corruption etc. People should stop being so f*cking selfish,
If people had the mentality to work together they would all be profitable and benefitial for eachother, but i guess its not in the human nature which is sad.
TheWelshboy42 7 months ago
First, they still have children KNOWING full well that they will starve to death.
Second, Why would I want to fund well being of people who in other circumstances would be my competition?
Third, Will those people listen to your "white propaganda bullshit designed to oppress them"? Myself being from third-world I can tell you that FUCK NO THEY WONT!
Fourth, I'd rather see money spent on science developments than on helping other people for whom I don't care - you wouldn't fund a lazy hippie
electronikita 7 months ago
@electronikita
First: do you think that's ok?
Second: competition? in what?
karlanickita 7 months ago
@karlanickita Life darling, life.
Its law of the jungle really - you're either on top or on the bottom.
electronikita 7 months ago
Starvation is bullshit. I don't feel like fucking when I am hungry. Where are the starving babies coming from?
salahhe 7 months ago
@salahhe maybe you are getting impotent then.
biakuya 7 months ago
she took his 'food cup'!!
pmak8 7 months ago 3
Please look at the National Geography document, the lion has been treated for bad teeth in Africa by the white people from US, at the same time the people in Africa are without food. We have to uplift the humanity not the technology.
mdmahmud 7 months ago
ethanol fuel = snatching food from a starving child
vishl01 7 months ago
The point many commentators miss is that handing food out, for free, would require a huge mobilization of labor and resources. No matter it might be small in face of the overall agricultural system, it is still huge. People, from the techie operating a farm tractor to the geneticist working to control agricultural pests, they wouldn't be willing to work for free, nor would suppliers of everything be engaged in such largess. You know, people like to be rewarded for their results.
lotwyo 7 months ago
It is horrible to have so much hunger in the world. This speaker has brilliant solutions, yet it doesn't solve the driving force behind hunger - population growth. Historically population growth always outpaces increases in food production. Unless we can match the pace of those two things it will always be a struggle to cure world hunger. People who are well fed tend to live longer and have more offspring, increasing the demand for food. Technology helps, but the Earth's resources are limited.
phasedreality1 7 months ago
@phasedreality1 I dont think population growth alone is the problem, look at the way cities and space is set up, in clusters, for instance a city like London has over 6 million people, and people live on top of each other in flats
Now the same is in other parts of the world, they is a lot of space and if we can find logistic solutions to meet demands in other areas then this would be a possibility
cristoretornebiblia 7 months ago
@cristoretornebiblia You are right of course, population isn't the only problem. I didn't intend to make the claim that we are running out of space for people to house themselves anytime soon. My point is that if population growth and necessarily demand for food outpaces increases in food production, we cannot hope to eliminate hunger. To sustain our current exponential population explosion without hunger, we need a strategy to address this unfortunate relationship.
phasedreality1 7 months ago
I think there may be some food in America :-/
twistedbass15 7 months ago
I think feeding everyone would be a bad idea ..how many billions of people do we really need?
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Are you volunteering to stop eating?
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@SikhiArt not at all. Then again i have created wealth and benefited my society.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Then do you realize you are part of a larger society? You try to benefit them and at the same time say we don't need to feed them at all and we don't need them.
Who are you trying to benefit?
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@SikhiArt larger society where? Africa?? i live in London and believe me i'm trying to get them out. They have kids knowing they'll starve, fuck them.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Ok sure. There is wisdom is your own words that you are not recognizing. My suggestion would be to contemplate your views words until you see it.
Cheers
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@SikhiArt i do believe me. When people come to my country and my tax pays for them to do nothing, it annoys me. When i have people begging me in the streets for thousands of starving African kids, it bothers me. Aids has been a blessing to Africa, i just hope a new strain comes out that's quicker.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Hmm... sure, I can relate a little bit to that sentiment.
I have some questions: Who is this "you" that you talk about? Is "you" some memories of the past that are remembered? or your body that you are referring to? some photos from the past? What is it?
Who is this "you"? I'm curious.
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@SikhiArt i guess you can have 2 answers and choose. 1 an aspect of a greater concious channel into my body giving me the perception of being and individual and having experience or 2 the matter of my brain producing a personality type.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Well, notice how those answers are pretty much the same.
So if that is the answer then what does "your society" mean? Is it your house? your neighbourhood? the country? the planet? the solar system? the universe?
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@SikhiArt Actually they're not, one is based on metaphysics, the other not. My society is something i build or am apart of actively. Personally just because i live in a geographical area doesn't mean to me i am apart of that society. For me it must be a willing participation AND 2 way thing.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Hmm... yes.
Let's go back to the answers you gave. They appear different. They might tackle the reality from two different perspectives. But what have they really stated?
For a two-way society you need functional members in a society. But why aren't some functional? You will find that if you extend unconditional awareness and aid to those are the dysfunctional they transform into something functional. right?
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@SikhiArt That's a real strawman if ive ever heard one
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Well go deeper into whatever is being talked about. I ask nothing more of you.
SikhiArt 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin With science and technology, we could easily feed the world.
Then, with basic needs met, minus war, heck, we could go into space. Pioneers again
ameropax 7 months ago
@ameropax we really need to start over somewhere else..but look at Africa, the best thing that happened to it was aids. Unfortunately it's too slow.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
@michael616joaquin Shit, watch that karma doesn't bite you for that bullshit. Stupidity comes around
ameropax 7 months ago
@ameropax i didn't create aids. So fuck it ..it's my opinion..and it's based on experience.
michael616joaquin 7 months ago
Altruism sucks
richardcadbury 7 months ago
I am from the third world country, where hunger exist, wondering why see did not mention the use of Internet like hungersite(dot)com to donate a cup of food everyday just by clicking. If all us do this everyday, hunger will vanish in a day. The solution she is explaining is technological, be careful technology will not solve any humanitarian problem, our moral participation will do.
mdmahmud 7 months ago
@mdmahmud You need to solve the root of hunger related issues.. people cant depend on handouts to survive. If you give the people the tools necessary to feed themselves then no one will go hungry. A steady supply of food donations is a short term solution that may do long term harm by not teaching people how to survive on their own.
theonlygus 7 months ago
@theonlygus You are very true. I really appreciate you thinking. Till I am in the side of moral participation then any technical solutions. At present we have Internet, connected world, if we can't utilize this connection then the problem will be open ended .... human need human we need to work on that direction ... we are sharing information .. are we sharing food?
mdmahmud 7 months ago
Must always factor in the demands of money.
MrSaint3 7 months ago
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Our economic system is the reason there is poverty and hunger. It is not profitable to give poor people the food they need to survive. It is not profitable to produce such a large supply of food that it becomes cheap enough for everyone to buy (supply & demand).
If we weren't limited by the monetary system we could easily build hydroponic sky scrapers to feed to entire planet.
People need to realize that most of our problems are systemic. Our societies are not designed to provide to people.
IHighLikePlane 7 months ago 55
@IHighLikePlane The economic or political or any other social systems are not responsible for poverty. Simply because the present connected world is beyond any social system, it is individuals choice to act and if we act together poverty will eliminate. No one to blame except blaming us. We have to uplift our moral, unfortunately develop world don't have that. That is the reality. Look "Apple holding more cash than USA". Apple has expansive fancy products for developed world.
mdmahmud 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane hunger is still present when the monetary system is removed. It was tried in China. Socialism is a beautiful idea until you try it.
qdadahu 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane The problem is not the food production, it's food distribution. There is enough food to feed everyone.
SourcesAreEverything 7 months ago
@SourcesAreEverything Well, why isn't it being distributed? Because it isn't profitable. In other words it would be contrary to our current economic system to feed poor and starving people.
IHighLikePlane 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane But who would build it? Why would anyone do work if a monetary system doesn't exist? Where will the supplies come from? Will people just ship oil around the world to operate machines that are made without paying someone to make it and ship it, to build farm skyscrapers? It goes far deeper than that.
BBQPeanut 7 months ago
@BBQPeanut
"why would anyone do work if a monetary system doesn't exist?"
it is feeble imaginations like this that only perpetuate the current mess.
people would work for work itself. for its necessity. for their enlightenment. for their enjoyment. for their contribution to others. but first their survival requirements must be met. it's funny actually. tying work to mere survival is actually less productive compared to work unbound to it. but the top ringers aren't done milking us yet.
xjustamem0ryx 7 months ago
@xjustamem0ryx Here, I'll give you an example. In Vancouver, it costs the city $55,000 per homeless person for policing, medical bills, etc. It only costs the city $21,000 to give them an apartment if they agree to simple terms such as keeping the place clean, staying off drugs, and working. So then with that, why would anyone earning minimum wage (far below $21k) want to pay for their own apartment anymore? If money can be created like that, then why can't the world make money for them as well?
BBQPeanut 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane good post.
biakuya 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane Actually, there is enough food produced for everyone but it is cheaper to simply dump it than send it to the third-world countries. There is a world food surplus, but the prices are kept unnaturally high, especially by stock-traders who artificially boost the price by speculating on the market. Okay, that more or less is the point you were making, as it is a problem within the system.
Maxwels 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane
"If we weren't limited by the monetary system we could easily build hydroponic sky scrapers to feed to entire planet."
I've seen the japanese vertical gardens. They're damn expensive. Their expense comes from
1. The skills needed to plan and build them
2. The effort needed to build them
3. The materials needed to build them
It doesn't matter if you're paying in potatoes or dollars, they cost money. They need capital investment. Please explain how the monetary system hurts.
axelasdf 7 months ago
@axelasdf
1) Using the internet, everyone on Earth can have the best education FOR FREE.
2) Many people volunteer, I'm sure people would volunteer their effort to end world hunger and insure a permanent FREE food supply for humanity.
3) We shouldn't have to "pay" for materials that were part of this planet long before humans existed. People owning life saving resources and hording them is corrupt.
The monetary system is a power scheme, not a true economy. We need a Resource Based Economy.
IHighLikePlane 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane
1. You cannot guarantee personal interaction, or competency with using the internet, and therefore, cannot assume that anyone can get an education straight from the internet.
2. Nothing is free, and never will it be. You have to put in effort to get anything out. All the way back to hunting and gathering.
3. You should pay for the work that someone else did in getting it to you. Real money isn't Federal Reserve notes. I agree that a power scheme controls those.
axelasdf 7 months ago
@axelasdf You are wrong on all counts. I'm not going to even bother refuting your points again.
The idea that individuals and small groups can own resources is the reason why there is so much pollution, social stratification, environmental destruction, and corruption.
Monetary free for all markets isn't the only way to do things. It is provably unsustainable and if continued will lead to our destruction, it isnt profitable to ensure a healthy environment. Please watch Zeitgeist Moving Forward
IHighLikePlane 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane Zeitgeist Moving Forward =) Glad to see the ideas spreading...
krazytim 7 months ago
thanks...I'm just trying to plant seeds =]
IHighLikePlane 7 months ago
@IHighLikePlane The issues don't lie in production of food but access. Increasing access encourages the development of microeconomic systems and educated workforces. Contrary to what you're saying, economic forces are ultimately what will eradicate poverty because it is, in fact, profitable to have a well-fed populace. All that is needed is the right initiatives and incentives from world leaders as alluded to at the end of the talk. Not some sort of Zeitgeist-esque utopian scheme.
VINsational331 6 months ago
@VINsational331 Why do poor people lack an access to food, its because they don't have money.
We can't use an economy that relies on human labor forever. The human being is obsolete for most tasks when compared with technology. Compound this with the exponential increase in technological advancement and you have an economic system that is doomed to fail as things like self checkout and online ordering becomes the mainstream.
Scientific societies are emergent, thus there is no "utopia".
IHighLikePlane 6 months ago
@IHighLikePlane Lmao Zeitard. Get lost. Economic illiterates shouldn't comment about....you know economics. "Hydroponic sky scrapers" aren't going to pop out of thin air. They will require resources and man-power.
H1TMANactual 5 months ago
@H1TMANactual Lmao economic doctrine tard. Stop spouting your free for all religion and learn to critically think. You know some ideological pseudo economics so you close your mind to all other alternatives.
I agree hydro sky scrapers require man power and resources, but they don't require currency of any kind. There are many things we could do if we weren't suffocated by a self serving ideological corrupt unsustainable environment destroying war provoking poverty inducing "economic system".
IHighLikePlane 5 months ago
@IHighLikePlane Yeah much rather have free for all than another failed centrally planned economy b/c some moron saw a bullshit yt video LOL
And hydro sky scrapers are possible and 7 bn can live without ever working again? Why? B/c some moron who never built shit in his life told you so in a yt video? Sure you gullible fuck.
And price and profit measures scarcity. And which economics system? Singapore, Hong Kong etc seems to be doing just fine. Like I said economic illiterate. Shut the fuck up.
H1TMANactual 5 months ago
@H1TMANactual Engineers have already designed these facilities so we know they are possible. People will always be working. However, in an RBE they wouldn't be wage slaves to a corporation doing meaninless tasks that are a waste of their human potential. Machines can do a better job waiting tables and building bridges than people ever could anyway.
The price system favors scarcity, thus we will never see an abundance of anything (food, shelter, etc.) in this system. So poverty is inevitable.
IHighLikePlane 5 months ago
@IHighLikePlane 1. And why did engineers built it? It's called profit motive. That's what drives technology. That's why your iphone 4 is cheaper and better than iphone 1.
2. Nope they wouldn't be wage slaves but we would all be slaves to the central planner.
3. Machines/robots can't even walk up a flight of stairs let alone build bridges #FAIL
4. Is there more food and shelter than 100 years ago? Then price system favors abundance, central planning doesn't.
Try again.
H1TMANactual 5 months ago
@H1TMANactual 1) wrong, most inventors and scientists create things out of personal fulfillment and to better humanity
2)There is no "central planner", everyone participates in a direct democracy, people are free to participate as they see fit
3)You must be ignorant of the state of technology
4)Having low supply and high demand equals more profit, thus starvation and poverty are inevitable
You're obviously too indoctrinated to listen to logic, so this is my last post. Have a nice life.
IHighLikePlane 5 months ago
@IHighLikePlane 1. Even if it were true, how do you distinguish between good inventor and bad one and who gets the resources?
2. LOL so 7 billion people gets to vote on how every single resource is used?
3. Must be. Then name that robot/machine that can wait tables and build bridges.
4. Nope. Higher demand means higher supply. More economic illiteracy.
Lmao a zeitard conspiracy nut talking about indoctrination. Ironic.
Btw what if I rape or kill someone in your society without laws?
H1TMANactual 5 months ago
I don't understand why she was speaking at TED. This talk looked to me like just another karma selling pitch.
First half of it even had the typical feel bad photos with starving children. I hate those! Of course everyone deserves to have food for the day, but (implicitly) telling people they are bad people and should give more of their possesions to those in need is just plain wrong..
Second half was better where she actually showed how it has gotten better. But still I didn't see her point.
phazeet 7 months ago
I cannot believe how uneducated some of these viewers are. Look at their stupid comments below. Go read a book, you know that stack of papers that's bound at the edge.
y100269 7 months ago
Not saying I believe this, just contributing to the flame war.
pop(dot)org
BJ219 7 months ago
Hunger is just a symptom of the disease, and you never cure by treating symptoms. It's actually funny how occidentals are convinced it's a matter of condoms... we sold them guns before hoes, and though they don't have technology for farming their oil and uranium extraction activities are running perfectly fine. Hunger is a matter of politics simply that, and we should be thankfull to it for everything we own.
s0n0fsparda 7 months ago
Yaa!!! We are going to breed endlessly!!!
The hunger problem is a resource problem. There is more resources for each of us if we stop breeding plus give transparency so people stop letting leaders take advantage of them.
Stonegoal 7 months ago
Generation 1: Feed 1 man and 1 woman and they get together and have 3 children.
Generation 2: Feed 2 Adults and 3 Growing children.
Generation 3: Feed 2 old adults, 3 young adults and their children.
Generation 4: Feed 5 Adults and 6 children.
Its just not sustainable. As much as we all would love to help these people, we have to admit that handing out billions of dollars worth of food every year will not fix the problem. We need more solutions condoms being one of them.
TheIslammiracle 7 months ago
This is harsh but I stand by it. People in the third world do not need our food. They need condoms.
metrx330 7 months ago
@metrx330 the fuck is wrong with you?
nextVTgenerati0n 7 months ago
@metrx330 And you need a good smack in the head.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@reafdaw01. Wrong, he has a very valid point.
We are heading for 9 billion people and the oil is running out.
meotaku2 7 months ago
@meotaku2 So that means that we can let them starve? It is possible to adress several problems at a time you know. Also it is very clear from the data that birth rates go down as wealth increases. THerefore helping to end hunger and poverty is one of the most effective ways to adress overpopulation.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@reafdaw01. Having a smaller family also means that more family income is available for each child. It is all very sad that the West has been feeding people in famines in the horn of Africa for 30 years and yet they still have the same problems now.
meotaku2 7 months ago
@meotaku2 Well yes that is sad. However it is naive to assume that it is because of personal choice alone. The west has been exploiting africa economically for hunderds of years. Imperialism has left a big scare and subsidies on goods and other protective measures have hindered economic developement. Of course it is not all our fault, bad political decisions and superstition and religious beliefs play a important role aswell.
Still: letting people strave is neither a solution nor decent.
reafdaw01 7 months ago 9
@reafdaw01. I never said not to help. Of course people cannot be left to starve, that would be inhuman. I also do not buy the `its all the fault of the imperialists` arguement. The African nations have been independent for 50 years now and have received billions in aid and loans (now written off). The African leaders are mostly to blame for their corruption.
meotaku2 7 months ago
@meotaku2 Well then I misunderstood, I thought you were against the message of the talk.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@meotaku2 Just sending food is a bad idea and just treating the symptoms not the decease. But that is a discussion on how to help not wether we should help. You seem to argue for not helping which is just wrong. Empathy is one of the things that make us human and we should act on it.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@JOLLYJOEY101 I havent seen all of them. The ones ive seen, had nothing to do with religion and only pointed out how messed up our economy is.
Like "moving forward"
errorrestricted 7 months ago
Some people act like every video at TED is required viewing. No one is forcing you. If you have criticism of the talk's content, then go ahead and make them. But dismissing an issue like world hunger because you're not interested is not something WE all need to know. This should be your private shame, not something to freely admit.
saahmasr 7 months ago
No women = better talks!
No intro sound = awesome!
0:15 for awesomeness :D
Tnat1on 7 months ago
Well..Sounds cruel but this is natural selection.We simply cant supply enough food and even if we wanted they would just reproduce even more and more...thats why there is a problem, Because they are overpopulated.
alphakristjan 7 months ago
@alphakristjan "Sounds cruel but this is natural selection". Hitler would be proud.
D3mi4n 7 months ago
@D3mi4n You have succeeded in ignoring the rest of my statement.
alphakristjan 7 months ago
@alphakristjan I love how you use "We" and "them", as though the people starving have absolutely no connection to us, nothing more than an infomerical on TV. Your also wrong. There is enough food currently to feed everyone on the planet, only we dont distribute food evenly. And its a fact that impoverished people have more children than those of better means, in other words people have less kids the better off they are.
CetraTJ 7 months ago
@alphakristjan
real scarcity is one thing, but humans further artificially dress it with politics and inefficient/neglectful/wasteful/apathetic distribution. these things make it more than just a matter of mere scarcity. though even when all those things have been cured, real scarcity will still be there to equalize that viral species--but at least they won't be "equalizing" one another...
it's dangerous relegating contingent/modifiable/fickle human behavior as merely natural selection.
xjustamem0ryx 7 months ago
@xjustamem0ryx
if they haven't already by then created a fully synthetic, inorganic planet with no need for nature...but, even then, if we could manage no real scarcity, humans would still find a pretense for it.
xjustamem0ryx 7 months ago
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Nitrousx 7 months ago
i wanna see somthing interesting already, wheres the architecture vids?
bobmarlzzz 7 months ago
If a place does not have food, it either lacks the means to produce or distribute food. The former can be fixed by building infrastructure, whereas the latter requires drug lords, war lords, and other violent entities be neutralized. They create an atmosphere that makes it difficult or impossible for people to live secure lives, and to expand and mature economically.
justicetrooper 7 months ago
Hunger is a political issue.
They don't get food because there is some control
on why it is not there. It can range from "I want to keep
more gold in my coffers, I am planning this next war,
I am in charge so I you do what I want."
When the power of Love is Greater than the love of power no one will be hungry..
We need to show these few people the masses (US) are mad and they
are selfish and stupid.
Energikar 7 months ago
She says: "I find it unacceptable that children wake up and don't know where to find a cup of food."
I say: "I find it unacceptable that PARENTS and CULTURES exist who apparently are DISINTERESTED in acquiring the knowledge and methods necessary--even though they ARE available to anyone who would seriously seek them--to keep their children fed.
GetMeThere1 7 months ago
@GetMeThere1 You have a naive view of the world in which equality exists. Parents and cultures try to feed their children but in our economy there are some who are loosers and it is not necessarily their fault. We don't start all out the same, that is not only true for individuals but also for countrys.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@reafdaw01 says "You have a naive view of the world..." Really? I know that humans have been feeding themselves for hundreds of thousands of years. I know that ALL the ancestors of humans now starving managed to feed themselves. How is it that so many for so long have managed to feed themselves, but now they can't? Could it be that you're naive? Or that "what you know" is just what people "feed" into your head?
GetMeThere1 7 months ago
@GetMeThere1 For the most part of human history it was normal for big parts of humanity to starve to death because of famins. In europe famines were very common until around 15th century when due to the import of potatoes our foodbase was imroved. Still after that there were many famines. The Great Irish Famine comes to mind. We only recently really eliminated huge famines with the "green revolution" due to the invention of the Haber-Bosch process and the ability to produce fertilizer it brings.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@reafdaw01 : Great! I suggest you memo those now starving with this information.
GetMeThere1 7 months ago
@GetMeThere1 Yeah it sucks to be demonstrably wrong doesn't it?
reafdaw01 7 months ago
@reafdaw01 : I'm sorry that....you're too UNBEARABLY clueless for me to summon the patience to explain my comment to you. But...I'm not SURPRISED; a certain sort of puffed up sanctimony is often associated with dim wits.
GetMeThere1 7 months ago
@GetMeThere1 LOL so it goes: claim, attempted refutation, facts to show why refutation fails and then arrogant and insulting comments without substance to distract from the fact you were wrong.
The only one you are fooling is yourself.
reafdaw01 7 months ago
The Nigerians are starving because, apparently, they're moving all their money from their banks into the accounts of random Americans they meet through email...
GetMeThere1 7 months ago
@GetMeThere1 lol wat?
bushiyo2 7 months ago
The main problem is there is no economy to speak of. Why do charities have to guarantee local farmers that their crops will be purchased? Because noone else can make it worth that farmer's time to grow the crops. The locked silos are a REALLY good idea. Those are the type of simple infrastructure improvements that encourage local agricultural production and the ability to save without food rotting or being easily stolen.
We need to think: what can these people do to demand food from the market?
majinspy 7 months ago
@majinspy
If the local farmers cant sell thier produce, where do the people get their food from?
EU dumps subsidized produce from from Europe in Africa.
Example; in some cases its cheaper to buy crushed tomatoes, packaged in Europe and transported by ship, than from the local farmer !
otur1 7 months ago
@otur1 Well that's sort of the all around problem isn't it? If europeans undercut local farmers by pumping in free food, why should farmers grow crops? I'm all for aid, but it has to be scaled back and not be such a warping and overpowering influence. We need to focus on giving these people the tools and technology to allow them to increase their own well being. Tools that are "sustainable", i.e. not a half million dollar tractor they have no idea how to repair. You make a good point.
majinspy 7 months ago
@majinspy
And the real sad part is, i dont think its done in order to benefit the Africans...
otur1 7 months ago
@otur1 I disagree. I think people mean well. There's always politics involved in any large operation, but I think people get in to it to do the right thing. We must put as much or more effort in figuring out what to do instead of just reacting.
majinspy 7 months ago
Seriously, those africans did not know that they needed to store food for the less rainy season?
You taught'em that, and they were saved? all 150 villages?
were they new in africa or the planet, all these farmers?
she says that knowledge is at hand to solve our food problems.
Then she offers to take world bank loans, to have subsidies for "government" education??
There is real knowledge.
Food forests can terraform the land. creating more rainfalls as they grow. hydroponics are even better
superdiza 7 months ago
but seriously, thanks for this video.
abduhzelda 7 months ago
Fuck you ted, you destroyed my Audio driver with your outro
abduhzelda 7 months ago
what if, we gave afrika farmers the best GM seeds to grow and harvest nutritious food?? oh wait we did!! but dictators turned it dowb because greenpeace isnt down with GM crops. too bad afrika!!
Zeem321 7 months ago
Perhaps it's saying something about our species that we cannot supply food for the demand of our population. In nature, this would balance itself out. So should we be feeding this disproportion?
ADDBoy010 7 months ago
What cruel and heartless people would dislike this video???
icomputered 7 months ago
@icomputered
everybody loves puppies. that doesn't mean anything with puppies in it is "liked".
superdiza 7 months ago
@superdiza Well, this woman is trying to help starving children. That's the difference.
icomputered 7 months ago
@icomputered your lack of seeing the difference is proving my point.
superdiza 7 months ago
Sounded like the successful programs included the local farmers, which IMHO, is what has been missing in the equation so far. Sending our food halfway around the world is useful in a disaster, but it is not a fix to a systemic problem.
sachamm 7 months ago
this is a great talk. really inspiring.
JImmy4336 7 months ago
This woman is made of pure win.
sweYoda2 7 months ago
There's a lot of great initiative happening here, but I'd like to entertain the following proposal as well: If you live in a place that you cannot leave and where you cannot yet muster the means to feed a child... don't have one. Am I out of line to propose such a thing?
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance They have no choice. It's not about choosing whether or not to have children or not. Its about survival as a species. It's a base need of all human beings to reproduce to continue the species. If these people never have children because they cant feed them, you will have entire countries dieing out.
We easily have all the technologies we need to end world hunger today. However, it's not profitable, so this will never happen until we discard our broken, failing system.
Tekros 7 months ago
@Tekros I'm open to having my mind changed on this issue, but that angle isn't going to do it. It's a human desire to reproduce, but it's not a human need. I don't have kids and I don't plan to. Having children is not essential to live. Not having more and more generations growing through mal-nourishment is not going to kill a country- it will just reduce its population. If the people there eventually die off without more starving generations to replace them it does no harm to that generation.
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance
What a suprisingly stupid view, i'd bet that most kids in this world are unplanned.
If condoms where pleasurable, free and trendy, the population of the world would be FAR less.
otur1 7 months ago
@otur1 I agree- so my proposal is that we push to make condoms pleasurable, affordable and trendy, and educate people about the odds/risks/chances involved with having sex. Celibacy is an option, especially if you carefully weigh the potential consequence of bringing a child into this world that is likely to starve itself because you don't have the means to provide for it. Having a child that you aren't able to care for is irresponsible in my opinion.
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance
Of course its irresponsible to not care for your offspring, no objections there!
But the fact remains, not all people are saints (like you), by will and/or ability!
There will always be casual / involuntary / unplanned sex, for good and/or bad.
otur1 7 months ago
@otur1 I'm not suggesting that kids who are born into poverty be blamed for their parents accidents or irresponsibility. I'm only suggesting that those potential parents under the means where they can't provide for a child (no matter where they live, or who they are) make the responsible choice to not have kids they can't take care of.
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance
Clearly our views differ, one reason may be information. To try and remedy that heres a video ~4 min long: watch?v=LWuEJmE2niU
Why do you think that people are always acting rational, especially when it comes to such inate matters as sex?
otur1 7 months ago
@otur1 That was a very strange video to send. What made you think I was a proponent of rape, or that people ARE always rational? My point is that people SHOULD be more rational. I don't think that's an earth-shattering suggestion.
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance
I was merly trying to focus on reality rather than platitudes. In Africa, which was the focus on this talk from TED, rape (for example) is a sad reality.
Moreover, they are heavily influenced by the dark side of religion (no birthcontrol, no masturbation).
otur1 7 months ago
@otur1 I have no disagreement with that, and I have nothing against helping children. I am all for education of people and the removal of deleterious religious movements. In fact, I consider those things essential to people being capable of having the highest potential control over their own lives, including pregnancies.
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
It's a desire for those who live in the "Western" world because there's no need for everyone to have 3 kids, or even one. For us it's terrible if one child doesn't make it. In your third world countries, infant mortality is so high, its a miracle if one child lives to the age of 20.
It's quite literally an entirely different world with a vastly different way of living.
Tekros 7 months ago
@Tekros You've explained that infant mortality rate there is high. I completely agree- that is one of the issues this video is trying to address. You have not explained to me why people NEED to have children under conditions that they know they can't afford to provide the basic essentials for them. I'm looking for you to explain to me why in 3rd world countries people are apparently required to have kids, even if the responsible choice is to not have them if you can't provide for them.
GrapplingIgnorance 7 months ago
I sympathize a lot with Josette, during the firsts part of the speech you could see she almost cried when she was talking about hunger in Africa, and that make me very sad too. I think her idea is very great not to mention her really great intentions, overall this is an excellent speech.
tetraedronico 7 months ago
Cry me a river. Mostly its famine / Muslims who are sent aid and so on. Meanwhile the rich muslims live like gods and dont give a fuck, Watch them build islands, buy football clubs and play solitaire with economies. This is the real face of Islam. Meanwhile well meaning liberals give a shit whilst their real concern should be focussed inland. Watch your neighbours first - there is no global community.
yavanna1969 7 months ago in playlist watchlist
I am wondering which kind of folks is disliking this video...
NeedsEvidence 7 months ago
How could you dislike this video? Tell me
SinisterElements 7 months ago