this song makes me wanna go on an epic adventure with a spartan, a viking, a samurai, a scottish highlander, a pirate, a gladiator, a musketeer, a praetorian... any1 else im missing?
I started out as an infant, but after watching this video, I became a BADASS! A Badass with a beard on my beard! A badass with muscles on my muscles and a badass wearting nothing but my skin and a loin cloth!
You can hear the passion that went into this and into the game. That is what makes the difference between success and failure, not just in the MMO market but in every market. There are too many drab games out there where it's obvious the developers are there simply for a paycheck. I really wish game developers would recognize this and invest their soul into their creations, because creating anything without that just isn't worth the trouble.
lol made sure my friends had this playing when i told them about the Beta announcement. said "We gotta make sure the mood is set and you understand the epicness of this."
As a Potential Norn-in-waiting I could care less how much this sounds like it's been re-hashed, it still sounds epic(Thanks Jeremy Soule) and will help serve it's purpose of pumping me up for battle (at least for the first day or so before I turn the in-game music volume down and thump out some Metal tunes).
Thanks for uploading this! You should probably change the title though--this is the Norn theme, not the main theme (not confirmed, but most likely--compare this with GW1's Norn theme and you'll see the similarities). You probably know this judging by your tags but just being OCD :p
Thumbs up if you feel Jeremy Soule is heavily channeling Supreme Commander in this soundtrack.
GW1 and Elder Scrolls both have styles distinct for him, but with every new GW2 piece I hear, I get intense flashbacks to some of my most epic Supreme Commander and Forged Alliance battles.
It reminds me Oblivion theme (0:00-0:32) and Harry Potter 3 game, the part with ice slides (1:25-1:35) what is quite possible thanks to same composer (Jeremy Soule FTW! )
And so it was that the weary designers of ANet after much toil and trouble came unto the House of the one named Jeremy Soule.
And took they the themes of the Proph and the EotN and set them upon the altar of this House and sang praises and beseeched unto the heavens that a suitably epic GW2 theme upon them be stowed.
And thus appeased Jeremy Soule took the two themes of the Prophesies and the EotN and made them a whole.
And the mortals ever after sang praises to him on high, for it was good.
@getefix3 when its done... Yeah I know its horrible im even saying it. I mean a half year ago I was like :"Whaaaaaaat ? Guild wars 2 ? bitch please I wont play any mmo any more" and now 1 month ago i cried! I REALLY CRIED together with my girl when we were watching the trailer and then I watched all the classes and races and OMG and my girlfriend asked when will this come out ? I Looked and what ? "WHEN ITS DONE" its great they want to give us a product without bugs and so on but dont torture me
@trx753124 Yeah and before some1 says yeah u better make some jogging fatty and wash urself no life I have a life friends and im not fat but I really enjoy playing games just like other reading books ( or making sex ! its pretty much the same like gaming both give me orgasms xD ) and believe me its really really enjoyable !
i like this better than the norn theme. it has a darker sound because there is no more trumpet solo and the times like 00:50-1:00 where the drums are owning it
It definitely has the Jeremy Soule feel to it, kind of similar to the Oblivion theme in parts, which is a great thing in my opinion. It fits the games actiony, yet fantasy theme so well, and I can't wait to hear more
Hey everybody! I have released my new album 'Progenitor' which is electronic music inspired by great games such as Guild Wars. You can check it out and download it for free on my youtube channel if you're interested!
I think its meant to make everyone excited to play :) newer players will think its epic, while older players will be like 'the story of guild wars continues'
I'm thinking that was the point. They remixed the original song from eotn to kind of remind us of the past but put a new twist on it to bring us into the future. Cause it sounds very I don't know ... mighty? I would say. But they know we'll recognize it and go "thats the old theme!" Either way it gets me excited for guild wars 2.
@Molhedim haha i want a good game too ! and i don't want them to be pressured either ! still that doesn't change the fact i can't wait and want it NOW ;D
@foaly8 thats more like it :). I still cant decide to make char warior , char ranger or norn ranger . Still in dilema. Might make go with char war for the moment ...but dunno for sure.
Yeah, gotta be the Norn theme. It was showed along with the Norn's main badass in the race trailer with Destiny's Edge, and the Norn creation intro had this theme all over the place. Either way, it really is a great tune. Thanks for uploading it.
Okay, I'm usually who is not impressed by soundtracks, but this.......... this is simply inspiring, motivating, and beautiful. Never have i heard something so good in my entire life. Jeremy Soule is a genius in the art of music. Thank you Jeremy for giving me the best music of ALL time. God be with you.
So nostalgic
lebaz101 2 days ago
Dan Bull. I challenge you to make a rap out of this.
Omryu 3 days ago
How does Jeremy Soule make all of his main themes sound so frickin' AMAZING
totalishnc 5 days ago
my ears.. they are bleeding.. bleeding with chocolate... so good
MoskitoMoonstrider 5 days ago
*nosebleed*
sacredgod10 6 days ago
damn straight epic!
Iamnoguitarist 1 week ago
this song makes me wanna go on an epic adventure with a spartan, a viking, a samurai, a scottish highlander, a pirate, a gladiator, a musketeer, a praetorian... any1 else im missing?
amazingrk13 1 week ago
@amazingrk13 Durr, a wizard.
Desolace 6 days ago
This song just makes me wanna grab a sword and shield from somewhere and go on an adventure. Damn this is good!
Galacto1 1 week ago 3
@Galacto1 Give me a bow and arrow along with some epic armor and I'm in to go along with ya
ringgeest11 5 days ago
fucckkkkkk i want this nowww.
IDKwatever96 1 week ago
It sounds a lot like the Norn theme form Guild Wars: Eye of the North.
ADRemyus 1 week ago
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ADRemyus 1 week ago
EPIC.
TheRedFuryITA 1 week ago 4
Play this at my funeral ;)
TheRadioactiveSkull 1 week ago in playlist GWII
@TheRadioactiveSkull Not sure if you'l ever die after hearing this. It's like the song provides endless youth. Energy flowing through your body!
WaterCrystalline 1 week ago
@WaterCrystalline Haha that's so true man. So there will be no funeral with GW II soundtrack? What a pitty :D
TheRadioactiveSkull 1 week ago
I should definitely stop listening to this, as it makes me want to play this game even more than I already do. But it's so awesome..!
Which remembers me of doing some grocery shopping. After all, there are 5 years of time spent waiting to compensate... ^^
Long story short: Shut up and take my money!
HiddenHyde 1 week ago
Better than Mozart
Nicolos26 1 week ago
I started out as an infant, but after watching this video, I became a BADASS! A Badass with a beard on my beard! A badass with muscles on my muscles and a badass wearting nothing but my skin and a loin cloth!
RAARGH! *Pounds chest*
ArcaneBunny 1 week ago
.... not sure what to say ... EXCEPT THAT IT IS AWESOME!!!
TheVeggydude 1 week ago
Best composer ever. nuff said
skolanbrinner 1 week ago
I want it to be released so badly I could cry!
panikeerder 1 week ago
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costelking 1 week ago
beta sign ups are open
beta(.)guildwars2(.)com
TwistedComplex 1 week ago
@TwistedComplex Yeah, I posted a bulletin, but I'm not sure if it went out.
Rhys779 1 week ago
DOVAHKIN! DOVHA--..Nvm wrong vid, sorry.
BarmSchulz 1 week ago
@BarmSchulz Lol, I used to think this was Skyrim but then I got an arrow to the knee.
IIoWoII 1 week ago
I am actually going to be a Norn because they have the best theme song, that and i like the building style.
laggyteabag 2 weeks ago
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MagikkaProductions 2 weeks ago
I really really REALLY hope the soundtrack comes with the Collector's Edition.
SindiFur 2 weeks ago 4
request: this, mixed/mashed up whatever with the Skyrim Main Theme. Would be beyond epic :)
DoliSkipper 2 weeks ago
@DoliSkipper that´s because jeremy soule made both Guild Wars (2) and Skyrim soundtrack
pwned577 2 weeks ago
I used to be a dragon hunter but then....
Cesnes007 2 weeks ago 5
Goodbye repetitive World of Warcraft with pandas ...
Hello Guild Wars 2!
Qaelios 2 weeks ago 2
one wow addict disliked this
iamman198 2 weeks ago
You can hear the passion that went into this and into the game. That is what makes the difference between success and failure, not just in the MMO market but in every market. There are too many drab games out there where it's obvious the developers are there simply for a paycheck. I really wish game developers would recognize this and invest their soul into their creations, because creating anything without that just isn't worth the trouble.
Taurusaud 2 weeks ago
skyrim disliked this.
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LordZweeble 3 weeks ago
lol made sure my friends had this playing when i told them about the Beta announcement. said "We gotta make sure the mood is set and you understand the epicness of this."
KNDReaper 4 weeks ago
This + the skyrim theme on repeat forever
konnoryuu 4 weeks ago
@konnoryuu fun fact the same person who wrote all the elderscrolls games themes made the music for guild wars 2 so epic musing in game im so excited
SEBmabiHERO 3 weeks ago
wow!!!
gw2rox 4 weeks ago
I wanna have this song on replay on my Ipod for the rest of my life...
Nicolos26 1 month ago
I hope GW2 features tea-bagging. I wanna tea-bag a dragon.
Ichigo1sAwesome 1 month ago
Orgasm at 1:10
Erothan666 1 month ago
I F*KING LOVE JEREMY SOULE !!!!!
Erothan666 1 month ago
SWTOR has outright ruled the MMO market for far too long. Down with SWTOR, and LONG LIVE GW2!!!
GameTymeGuides 1 month ago
When i hear this song i stand off my chair pop my chest out and walk to the sink and back.
ChaosRiku 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@GameTymeGuides SWTOR is the top? Right now? I'm guessing that won't last very long :)
Avascarz 1 month ago
@GameTymeGuides i dont know what alternate universe youre living in lol
SWTOR is crashing
TwistedComplex 1 month ago
@GameTymeGuides So after being on the market for a little over a month, its already been to long? haha
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Vikings/Norse/Scandinavia/Skyrim/Nords/Dovahkiin/Fus Ro Dah - Are all strong in this one.
FreedomFighter08 1 month ago 3
With this main theme sound, nothing can go wrong. Gw + Gw2 FTW <3
wayoutofurface 1 month ago
MANLY TEARS!
ZackeeEU 1 month ago 34
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balloxfulify 1 month ago
ORGYY
ChaosRiku 1 month ago
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TheMagnificentZianix 1 month ago
@TheMagnificentZianix Looks like you have no Soule.
k2kraze 1 month ago 2
@k2kraze Good one =) No but seriously, no is one sorry ass theme. It could be sooo much better.
TheMagnificentZianix 1 month ago
@TheMagnificentZianix Check this video out, from two steps from hell with GW2 footage. watch?v=KTkQsukVa1Q&feature=related
TheMagnificentZianix 1 month ago
GW2 wins at 0:16....
UndercoverCracker 1 month ago
As a Potential Norn-in-waiting I could care less how much this sounds like it's been re-hashed, it still sounds epic(Thanks Jeremy Soule) and will help serve it's purpose of pumping me up for battle (at least for the first day or so before I turn the in-game music volume down and thump out some Metal tunes).
Seraphima 1 month ago
@Seraphima You are aware the game has a built-in custom music feature, so you can tell it what music to play for battles, adventuring etc?
lintonthepenguin 1 month ago
@Seraphima I approve wholeheartedly
svevo 1 month ago
FREAKING AWESOME!
ImFUCKINGleetBITCH 1 month ago
Damn...I'm dying. Too much epicness and passion....I don't wanna live in that unepic real world :P
EvilMonk100 2 months ago 3
@EvilMonk100 Hopefully, there are background musics playing while you're there. :o
Connen1 2 months ago
@Connen1 There will be backround music, I am sure. =)
EvilMonk100 2 months ago
FUCKING GOOSEBUMPS
Mitjan11 2 months ago
If you are bold enough, your legend will live forever. ~
-Eir Stegalkin
Himmbeerpfote 2 months ago 3
100% eargasm
tontsa911 2 months ago 46
I burned out on Skyrim within a few days. It's just too repetitive, and boring after the main storyline is complete. I am just waiting for GW2, now!
Azlaier 2 months ago
thumbs up if you hear the dude that uploaded the song whistling at 0:34
Bala666 2 months ago in playlist musica épica
Tryia here I come :DDD GW 2 <3
Durmista 2 months ago 2
Thanks for uploading this! You should probably change the title though--this is the Norn theme, not the main theme (not confirmed, but most likely--compare this with GW1's Norn theme and you'll see the similarities). You probably know this judging by your tags but just being OCD :p
watch?v=Z6JOyTpnpCY is probably GW2's main theme.
SharK0913 2 months ago
0:16 - 0:31 is literally some of the most beautiful music I have heard in years...
UndercoverCracker 2 months ago
I love how it resembles to gw 1, and eveb tho it sucked, I will have a better time playing gw 2. Original players rules!
malindfors 3 months ago
i hope when gw2 is out the sountrack will be on itunes!
sammywammy98 3 months ago
i close my eyes.. and be an hero with my own story.. with the help of the hero in music! Jeremy damn... whats youre story?
CreativeToTheMind 3 months ago 2
I LOVE JEREMY SOULE
SirUrias 3 months ago
I got a little tierd of Listening to Skyrim theme for my 1000th times so i came here!
MrSexycookie 3 months ago
FOR SPARTA!!!!! wait,I mean...
FOR TYRIA!
ECHOVALD!
ISTAN!
AND...AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF!
-dies-
God,GW2,please come soon for the love of god.
AbelKuran 3 months ago
I found composition very similar to this one in many ways:
watch?v=B2IWfBr3VjQ
Thumbs up so everyone can hear it!
InternetWithoutTrash 3 months ago
@InternetWithoutTrash
For me it's not similar at all o.o
Rokkmachine 3 months ago
what an epic piece of music.
thetendertrap 3 months ago
Thumbs up if you feel Jeremy Soule is heavily channeling Supreme Commander in this soundtrack.
GW1 and Elder Scrolls both have styles distinct for him, but with every new GW2 piece I hear, I get intense flashbacks to some of my most epic Supreme Commander and Forged Alliance battles.
nERVEcenter117 3 months ago
@Loyadd Cellos
IohannaFiona 3 months ago
Hearing this music gave me my first orgasm in the spine.
dampkamel 3 months ago
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@dampkamel wtf?
kadmas007 3 months ago
Jeremy Soule is the fkn right man for this job!!
Gw2 and Skyrim are so much win.
combatboy94 3 months ago 3
Absolutely epic! Music to pillage-ya-village to! ;)
ChaosAnarchyMaddness 3 months ago
Here I come SKYRIIIIIIMMM !!!! ... oh wait... I mean Tyria.
tontsa911 4 months ago 92
@tontsa911 well, Skyrim is a good way to be entertained while waiting for GW2 :)
emil9412 3 months ago 4
@tontsa911 ehh all his soundtracks sound the same for oblivion, gw and skyrim...
getbuttkik 2 months ago
@getbuttkik Yea, cuse epic is as epic does.
FenceJumper87 2 months ago
isnt that cool. the Norn got the main theme and not the humans XD
makeit234 4 months ago
@makeit234 Because Norn > Human, as always are the humans the most boring race of all... I like.
Riltend 4 months ago
@Riltend I disagree. The story of thee humans is really cool. The theme song is awesome too.
Antimidation 3 months ago
YOUTUBE FFS LOOP BUTTON PLEASE!
orosaasoro1 4 months ago
i just cant stop listen to it :/
ApfelR 4 months ago
Main theme or Norn theme, it's still my absolute favourite - makes me want to cryogenically freeze myself until they release a beta >.< <3
SlappedYak317 4 months ago
Beneath Chuck Norris' beard, there is a fist. Beneath the beards of Norn men, there are three fists.
ArcaneBunny 4 months ago 2
Elderscrolls games and GW this guy is amazing
superscope27 4 months ago
Any way to get your hands on the complete OST?
metafixi 4 months ago
Jeremy Soule is a Boss Hoss.
username112ish 5 months ago
I just got 224 Orgasms.
TheRomanCraft 5 months ago 2
does anyone know whats the name of the song when u log in to gw1 screen? thank you
AyaneHajinmon 5 months ago
@AyaneHajinmon "The Eye of the North". I think.
balrog0444 5 months ago
1:51 is so awesome
AyaneHajinmon 5 months ago
It reminds me Oblivion theme (0:00-0:32) and Harry Potter 3 game, the part with ice slides (1:25-1:35) what is quite possible thanks to same composer (Jeremy Soule FTW! )
lihkan 5 months ago in playlist Oblíbená videa uživatele lihkan
@lihkan this is the same composer that wrote the soundtrack to the Elderscrolls games.
superscope27 4 months ago
@superscope27 I know.
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mjgdnbff 5 months ago
GW2 is gonna be the most epic game ever xD
bought guild wars 1 just to get that bonus stuff for GW2 you can get in Eye of the North ^^
VplusGameplay 5 months ago 2
How did you get the file for this song (and the others?)
FenceJumper87 5 months ago
btw tbh Jeremy Soule is great composer and arena.net is best artistic company in gaming industry.
Xavierusis 5 months ago
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Xavierusis 5 months ago
I jizzed
Xavierusis 5 months ago
I loved the part 0:00 - 2:23 !
Woolbeach 6 months ago
This song keeps reminding me of the Overlord theme.
Zeredek 6 months ago
I love this melody... i sing it every morning at work ^^
Himmbeerpfote 6 months ago
0:15 - 0:31 I know now what perfection truly is.
UndercoverCracker 6 months ago
And so it was that the weary designers of ANet after much toil and trouble came unto the House of the one named Jeremy Soule.
And took they the themes of the Proph and the EotN and set them upon the altar of this House and sang praises and beseeched unto the heavens that a suitably epic GW2 theme upon them be stowed.
And thus appeased Jeremy Soule took the two themes of the Prophesies and the EotN and made them a whole.
And the mortals ever after sang praises to him on high, for it was good.
powerhousejp 6 months ago 106
@powerhousejp Epic comment is epic as music
aidencurl 1 month ago
@powerhousejp I logged in just to say that was the most epic comment I have seen for soundtracks period. Praise be to you, Disciple of Soule!
BlixaMarkham1337 1 month ago
when will the ost be released? anyone know?
getefix3 6 months ago
@getefix3 when its done... Yeah I know its horrible im even saying it. I mean a half year ago I was like :"Whaaaaaaat ? Guild wars 2 ? bitch please I wont play any mmo any more" and now 1 month ago i cried! I REALLY CRIED together with my girl when we were watching the trailer and then I watched all the classes and races and OMG and my girlfriend asked when will this come out ? I Looked and what ? "WHEN ITS DONE" its great they want to give us a product without bugs and so on but dont torture me
trx753124 6 months ago
@trx753124 Yeah and before some1 says yeah u better make some jogging fatty and wash urself no life I have a life friends and im not fat but I really enjoy playing games just like other reading books ( or making sex ! its pretty much the same like gaming both give me orgasms xD ) and believe me its really really enjoyable !
trx753124 6 months ago
i like this better than the norn theme. it has a darker sound because there is no more trumpet solo and the times like 00:50-1:00 where the drums are owning it
aehthe7 6 months ago
Hah, can't decide which one is better: this one or norn theme from EotN
Verithiell 6 months ago
Norn Guardian!
yashizuko 6 months ago
What's THIS!?..A GIANT UNSTOPPABLE DRAGON!?!??!!? WELL I GOT BEAR FORM BITCHEEZ!!!
Norn all the way
KissMyBlade 6 months ago
It definitely has the Jeremy Soule feel to it, kind of similar to the Oblivion theme in parts, which is a great thing in my opinion. It fits the games actiony, yet fantasy theme so well, and I can't wait to hear more
Halfarn 6 months ago
Norns for the win !
ShadzukyMizuho 6 months ago
Hey everybody! I have released my new album 'Progenitor' which is electronic music inspired by great games such as Guild Wars. You can check it out and download it for free on my youtube channel if you're interested!
ORTmusic 6 months ago
I like the part from 0.00 - 2.24!
MegaGn0me 6 months ago
@MegaGn0me me too!
Ornex55 6 months ago
I added a subtle "echo" affect on my player which makes it so much more intense <3
NagisaChan20 6 months ago
Something this epic should be like 10 minutes long.
pyrix 6 months ago
Hopefully they'll announce a release date during Gamescom :D
Scrabblet2 6 months ago
Guild Wars 2 ftw..
InspieringEpicVideos 6 months ago
I think its meant to make everyone excited to play :) newer players will think its epic, while older players will be like 'the story of guild wars continues'
sacredgod10 6 months ago
They actually based the GW2 theme heavily on the norn theme...
So, it makes sense to think it's the norn theme :)
Norn are awesome!
So are the humans though, lol.
Charr are badass... Asura kick ass...
Silvari are ehh... I'll go with wickedly cool :P
Rebornneo 6 months ago
I'm thinking that was the point. They remixed the original song from eotn to kind of remind us of the past but put a new twist on it to bring us into the future. Cause it sounds very I don't know ... mighty? I would say. But they know we'll recognize it and go "thats the old theme!" Either way it gets me excited for guild wars 2.
DaftLogic 6 months ago
I CAN'T WAIT !!!!!!!!!!11
and i'm already furious to see the new cantha as soon as it might be released one day.. always was my favourite region.. <3 please hurry up ANet :D
foaly8 7 months ago
@foaly8 NOOO !!! no hurry up ! i want a good game , i dont want them to be presured by fans . so stfu and be patience.
Molhedim 6 months ago
@Molhedim haha i want a good game too ! and i don't want them to be pressured either ! still that doesn't change the fact i can't wait and want it NOW ;D
foaly8 6 months ago
@foaly8 thats more like it :). I still cant decide to make char warior , char ranger or norn ranger . Still in dilema. Might make go with char war for the moment ...but dunno for sure.
Molhedim 6 months ago
@foaly8 well i'm sylvari that's for sure. gonna miss my monk though.... healing / protting always was my favorite :( ~ might be thief or ranger.
and maybe an asure mage? :)
foaly8 6 months ago
That is really epic stuff! Epic music for an Epic game ! Thumps up if u feel like i do :D
Kakashi9536 7 months ago 3
one of the best ;)
TheKiwiSniper 7 months ago 2
Tears! So epic! Want to slay mountain sized dragons please! I wish It comes out this year
Theo93 7 months ago
Chills.
combatboy94 7 months ago
I love the hymn in the background at 0:15 - about 31 seconds.
LivingxPrime 7 months ago
That's the norn theme if I ever heard one... Unless they are trying to say GW is norn! Let's face it... we are norn, we ARE GUILD WARS 2!
belgeode 7 months ago 2
@belgeode
YES MY BROTHER >D (OR SISTER)
ward160 7 months ago
the people that disliked this are...oh wait...
Awesotek 7 months ago 25
Sends shivers down my spine...
Eeken90gQ 7 months ago 4
@CaptainBrownie I doubt that very much. lol
UndercoverCracker 7 months ago
Yeah, gotta be the Norn theme. It was showed along with the Norn's main badass in the race trailer with Destiny's Edge, and the Norn creation intro had this theme all over the place. Either way, it really is a great tune. Thanks for uploading it.
Congocroc 8 months ago
i hated 2:25 T^T
lushikichiariCHAN 8 months ago 3
Okay, I'm usually who is not impressed by soundtracks, but this.......... this is simply inspiring, motivating, and beautiful. Never have i heard something so good in my entire life. Jeremy Soule is a genius in the art of music. Thank you Jeremy for giving me the best music of ALL time. God be with you.
tristan5108 8 months ago 4
@tristan5108 Lol freak
Skidern 7 months ago
0:00 - 2:24
best part :)
gamersAproductions 8 months ago 4
Have to agree, this is VERY similar to the Norn theme in the Eye of the North OST
plukerpluck 8 months ago
Thumbs Up if your Rolling a Norn on the First Day!
BLEACH1614 8 months ago 4
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Banjoing 8 months ago 3
Is it just me, or is putting the Equaliser to 'Soft' in the Realtek HD Audio Configuration making the trumpets so much better?
Memphisjz 8 months ago in playlist Guildwars 2
This song pumps me up for GW2... man I can't wait!
TAToutik 8 months ago 50
@TAToutik The music is a very important factor in games, so I agree with you! Can't wait for the game!! It's gonna hit the world of gaming HARD!
FGDeus 5 months ago
i hear this in my head during every battle in Edge of Destiny
can't wait for GW2!
DemoraX 8 months ago
1:52 - 2:20
UndercoverCracker 8 months ago