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  • Ron Van Clief

  • I have this on VHS. I taped it back in 1998. Glad I did.

  • i would like a cope if you are still offering.....let me know

    rebelrocker71@yahoo.com

  • hes doin sepai kata

  • I too would like a copy of this event. Had the pleasure of watching it at Kyoshi Van Clief's Spanish Harlem Apt. a couple of years ago. Haven't seen him in awhile and would like to connect again being that I am presently involved in a new Fight League and would like his input.

  • @Linux4UnMe What a senseless observation...

  • @cssius

    No. It is senseless to be fooled into thinking that set patterns which are common in traditional martial arts systems are in any way effective or useful to you in a real fight which is "not fixed" You wouldn't understand

  • @Linux4UnMe UFC isn't real fighting either.. Real fights don't have rules.

  • @Akkatlah

    and you think Traditional martial arts is Real fighting? Ufc might have certain rules like no blows to the groin, but Training in a Mixed martial art that deals with all ranges of attack/defence and teaches them to fight by "fighting" is more Realistic and beneficial than training in an art that doesn't put you through any of that. It is like trying to learn how to swim and going through the movements without actually jumping in the water... therefore you will not be efficient

  • @Linux4UnMe a real fight just takes place in the street with no rules or limitations.. You do what you have to do to survive. That's what I meant.

  • @Linux4UnMe love how you make it sound like these guys can't fight at all or something

  • @Linux4UnMe you talk about real fighting, have you any idea? mma, ufc, traditional martial arts, can not prepare you for the streets of today, you have kids 14 yrs old carrying guns, knives, what you gonna do armbar? before or after you get your head blown off? what you need is courtesy, integrity, perserverance, self control, indomnitable spirit, walking around with an attitude, is gonna get you killed, thinking you the man gonna get you shot in the face, wake up! dont kid urselves!

  • @singhakabuttar

    now you are just talking nonsense and outside of the topic discussed. The topic "was" about traditional martial arts vs mma vs street" Ofcoarse it is a different ball game if somebody has a friggin gun pointed at you... That doesn't change any of my points... I have never stated anybody should go around with an attitude looking for trouble... ofcoarse that will get you killed mate. You are blowing the Topic out of proportion with what if this? what if that......

  • @Linux4UnMe tma vs mma is a stupid topic, firstly mma is all traditional, boxing, wrestling, muay thai, they are as traditional as they get, muay thai is over 3000 years old, boxing is ancient, wrestling is the oldest sport in the world, if that aint traditional enough for you then i dont know what is!!! i can tell you for a fact every martial art works, if you have the right instructor/sensei/coach, mma is a great sport, then you have the martial side, theres no reason why you cant train both.

  • @singhakabuttar

    never said you shouldn't. The more arts u train in the better... take what is good from each one

  • @Linux4UnMe also mma use kettlebells to train, more recently clubells, do you have any idea how traditional these tools are, clubells were and still are used in india today, okinawa have similar stone lever weights, the same with kettlebells, all these ideas and training methods are all just coming back into play, alot of martial arts have lost base with there roots, but the original training methods still exist, dont look at the differences, look for the similarities, theyve always been there.

  • @singhakabuttar I agree with you,the montu arts started in Africa the Asians just perfected the craft!

  • @globalsbc the montu arts? what are they?

  • @singhakabuttar This is some of the history you haven't been exposed to,ur martial arts were originally named montu by the ancient Kemetians now called Egyptians,they were the first to develope this training style which later was introduced to the asians and they just perfected it.Check out my page or Kemetnu page and look for the vid that addresses this subject!

  • what the hell does this have to do with Wesley Snipes ?

  • @SunnyWinters718 Wesley Snipes was the host of the show

  • Looks like tiger-crane.

  • @leelahut well karate does have some roots to chinese martial arts

  • Isn't this guy the person who fought Royce Gracie in one of the first UFCs (he was the oldest fighter in the UFC at that time and lost)

  • @copavida yes. he was 51 years old at the time & his "corner" was Taimak the last dragon

  • @copavida yes thats him and i think he was & is the oldest ever in mma & i pretty sure it was UFC 1

  • @tach69 UFC 4 actually. He lost to Royce Gracie.

  • Do you know where the full I can find a copy of the whole event?

  • this is not wesley snipes

  • akuma

    

  • @belingafred i was thinking the same thing!! lol

  • @belingafred worse(or better!)...the honorable Ron van clief actually exists!!

  • I saw this show when it was originally shown in 1998 and I have been trying to get a copy for years.The masters and grandmasters on the stage are phenomenal.Can you refer me to a source or is it possible to purchase a copy from you?

  • @belanfonte9 Ahati kilindi Iyi (Tamerrian Institute) was honoured at this event. He's a good friend of Wesley Snipes. Ive just seen brother Kilindi in the UK’s, Martial Arts Illustrated magazine (july 2010). It's a nice interview. African fighting arts don’t get good media coverage like Asian arts do. In fact, most people think martial arts is only an Asian thing. Africans and Europeans have their own arts.

  • How can I get a copy of the full show? is it on dvd somewhere?

    Thanks, Dawn

  • Man I remember brother Ron from when I was a kid in the 70's.. Great man as well as fighter.

  • that was ron van clief

  • would it possible if I could see the whole thing as well?

  • Does anyone know where i can find the full showing of this event?

  • dean, give me a mailing adress and I will send you a copy of the show RON

  • could you send me 1?

  • @shidoshirvc could you mail me a copy yo

  • @shidoshirvc I have been looking for this as well. Would it be a problem to make another copy of this?

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