This piece is somber without being overwhelming. I like the word arrangement, one can see that each word was picked carefully to convey the strength of the piece, great work!
@DoorsChick1967 Thank you! I think this is my favourite of the villanelles I have written, the repeated lines are strong enough to carry through the poem.
wow, what an awaking poem, i was working on a vilanelle poem about a week ago, and it took me about 2 hours to write it down, but it was not good, but your is quite picturable, i can picture the words in my mind, keep up the great work
Great comment to receive, thank you. This was the first villanelle I wrote. I enjoyed fitting my thoughts into such a tight framework: it made me think! I have written a few more since, a couple finished recently that I will probably post soon as spoken-word. If you start with a pair of lines that say enough, have lots of rhymes, then the poem can fall into place. With eight syllables per line, once you get into the rhythm, you can find the best words to shape. It does take time though to tweak!
The poem itself is very elegant. Your delivery, however, does not do it justice. A poem should not be read line for line or foot for foot. There is too much emphasis on the individual iambs; it must be read with a natural pace rythm rather than an overexaggerated duh-DUH-duh-DUH-duh-DUH.
Such criticism is refreshing, helpful - thanks for taking the time to comment DrStrangelove. I'm glad you appear to like the poem, regardless of my mangling ways!
well its interesting to note that some poets that forego mixing up the rhyme scheme on the verses when they have the option to on a villanelle can still make a good villanelle, I suppose mixing up the rhyme scheme might throw a villanelle off course, I will hope to produce good villanelles, your villanelle was great,
I mean speaking from a poets perspective it was inspiring
I only came across them recently, through another poet on YouTube. This was my first attempt, I've written a few now, most of them are now on YouTube. Thanks xxxild.
Thanks again Kean. This was my second attempt at writing a villanelle. I have to say I enjoyed the discipline of writing to the tight form, it's something I'm sure I'll return to. Cheers for now, Mark.
I'm glad whenever there is comfort to be taken from my words. I am an optimist by nature, but even so struggle sometimes to retain a positive outlook, overwhelmed as we are by gushings of grim tidings. Ultimately, though, I do believe that love is stronger than hate, I do believe we have a future worth living for, worth the struggle. It will be different, but that is only natural! Thanks, quodlibette.
I love the words you came up with for this piece and the imagery of it.. I am not familiar with the "traditional" forms of poetry(or maybe have just forgotten them from my school days), so it is nice to hear this from you!!
Thank you. I have only just come across this form of poetry, as I noted in the 'info' box. I have never been a student of poetry, but always one who enjoys learning. I look forwards to exploring more over time, and sharing what I can.
Perhaps we can learn from each other. I am very taken with what I have heard of your poetry, the way you combine your experience with such variety of styles. Thanks, DoorsChick.
Thank you for this villanelle. Just got back from a weekend in Belgium. It would be wonderful to imagine that each of those flowering poppies represented a smile.
A villanelle! Monstrously ambitious poetic form; I always find myself somewhat intimidated by it :) You've managed it beautifully, however. It reminds me a great deal of the famous war poet pieces (Dulce Et Decorum Est, etc), but with a subtle hint of hope that, understandably, many of those lack. Beautiful work, favourited.
Somehow though, it seems to suit me to write to a fixed form. I know when to stop! I have only just discovered this, the villanelle. Usually I develop and employ my own structures, usually simply from the initial thoughts, the first lines. I'm sure that exploring more of the traditions of poetry will play a part of how I approach writing in future. Thanks George.
I was already dizzy when I saw "metamorphic allegory", just now. now now, I'm thinking of language visualization. and I will sleep now, 'cause I have to find a few guiding images... love the poems. thank you.
Ah yes, Metamorphic Allegory! That was fun to write... got a lot out of me, that otherwise might have simmered! Thanks so much for letting me know your thoughts on what I do.
From my mum and dad?! From life. From the focus that poetry brings to me, in a frenzied world. Who knows... I am simply glad that, in sharing what I do, I can give something that seems to be appreciated. Thanks Bahena.
Well done Dashpoet!! Though the form is more traditional, you sustain your own originality, vitality and colour. Love the ending line "a ravaged face yet does smile."
I have been attempting to smile more lately. So here's a smile for ya!
My first introduction to the villanelle form and my love for the sound and combining of different words means it appealed to me greatly! I look forward to checking out some of TheDisexists work too :)
wow! glad to be of inspiration & thank you for the exposure. I find strict verse forms immensely pleasurable to work with because they constrain and distill the essence of thought, while providing that all important quality of rhythm.
As I said before, this is your glass half full poem, two fingers in the face 'of those who would destroy my brothers'. cheers
mark, i have written a lot of villanelles, or attempts at them, and yours actually works :) the way you use repetition and rhyme feels very natural and as other posters were saying, you show why forms have a place still :)
Thanks Charlotte, I'm glad you think so. I'm afraid I am no student of poetry, more an instinctive writer with a love of language. I only discovered the form yesterday. Writing this, though, has intrigued me enough to look further at traditional forms. I wonder whether you have posted any on your channel?
Another wonderful composition, Mark. Your subtleties of craft are refined; your wordage both concise and excellent to the meter, and creating vivid imagery (lines 7 and 9 the fine examples) and compound depth. Your first refrain invites the casual, the second takes its advantage to stark counterpoint. Your first and second stanzas taken together imply not the noble survivor, but the twisted and paradoxical death mask on the face of a corpse in macabre irony, a wonderful ...
(cont'd) ... subliminal emotional support to the piece. This is fine poetry my good friend, and a great example of why forms such as this took shape and remain important. The more of your work I become familiar with, the more am I impressed and the more I learn. And on that point, thank for pointing out yet another poet in your sidebar.
I am greatly touched that you should go to such length in critique of my poem. Until I started posting pieces on YouTube, I had worked essentially in isolation as a poet. I can learn a lot from comments such as yours, and I appreciate you taking the time, giving the thought you clearly have. Thank you. I tend to try to create layers of meaning in my poetry, and am thrilled to find that people are discovering the range of what is there.
I don't know who this is about, if anyone, other than me. Why do I relate to every word? maybe because I have "a ravaged face that yet does smile". I don't know.
Ha! Although it is about no one in particular, simply a face of humanity, I confess I caught a look at myself in the video, saw some of the ravages of time! Being the type of person I am, I had to laugh! I see us all as the survivors, the ones who have got away with 'it'... so far.. we are the lucky ones.
Thanks for giving it a go! I hope that the words give enough of a flavour, without needing to know all their names. I always try to find words that can give pleasure simply from their sound, the shapes they form together. I hope you got a sense of what I tried to express through this, anyway. (The text is in the info panel, if a time comes when you want to check up on any of it.) I appreciate your comment, thanks again.
Thanks Nina. I never know when I will be able to write poetry, so it is always something of a surprise, a relief even, when something decent comes out. As long as they do, I'll keep posting them! Good to hear from you - cheers!
A comment that made me laugh... thanks for that! I think perhaps, because a lot of what I write follows quite a tight form, albeit unconventional, that I take to this sort of thing fairly readily. I guess in a hectic life it can be a relief to have some order - perhaps this is mine!
I just googled 'villanelle' and, as you can imagine, immediately had the form defined for me. I enjoyed working to it, there is scope for all sorts of word play. My first try ended up more of a nonsense poem, although I have to say I like it none-the-less! I'll post it sometime. I look forwards to hearing what you come up with, as and when you decide to give it a go. Cheers!
This is a tremendous poem, Mark. My advice--for what it's worth--find a print magazine to send this one to. It deserves much attention. Gorgeous poem.
Thank you Roy - that is a very generous and encouraging comment. I have just received an email from United Press (who have published several of my poems in anthologies), inviting entry into this years National Poetry Anthology Competition. I think I'll stick this one in, and see what happens. Your comment is always appreciated - I know you as an exceptionally able poet - so again, thank you.
Thanks Rowan. This is my first proper bash at it, I can see myself writing more, perhaps exploring some other forms. I enjoy the process of condensing ideas into poems. Usually I develop my own patterns, often quite rigid in themselves. The added discipline of writing to the villanelle form was, I found, stimulating.
This piece is somber without being overwhelming. I like the word arrangement, one can see that each word was picked carefully to convey the strength of the piece, great work!
DoorsChick1967 1 year ago
@DoorsChick1967 Thank you! I think this is my favourite of the villanelles I have written, the repeated lines are strong enough to carry through the poem.
dashpoet 1 year ago
wow, what an awaking poem, i was working on a vilanelle poem about a week ago, and it took me about 2 hours to write it down, but it was not good, but your is quite picturable, i can picture the words in my mind, keep up the great work
DjABBlends 1 year ago
Great comment to receive, thank you. This was the first villanelle I wrote. I enjoyed fitting my thoughts into such a tight framework: it made me think! I have written a few more since, a couple finished recently that I will probably post soon as spoken-word. If you start with a pair of lines that say enough, have lots of rhymes, then the poem can fall into place. With eight syllables per line, once you get into the rhythm, you can find the best words to shape. It does take time though to tweak!
dashpoet 1 year ago
An example of exaggeration is in the line "emerging from the depths of war"
DrStrangelove346 2 years ago
Thanks again for such detailed comment! Season's greetings to you..
dashpoet 2 years ago
The poem itself is very elegant. Your delivery, however, does not do it justice. A poem should not be read line for line or foot for foot. There is too much emphasis on the individual iambs; it must be read with a natural pace rythm rather than an overexaggerated duh-DUH-duh-DUH-duh-DUH.
DrStrangelove346 2 years ago
Such criticism is refreshing, helpful - thanks for taking the time to comment DrStrangelove. I'm glad you appear to like the poem, regardless of my mangling ways!
dashpoet 2 years ago
well its interesting to note that some poets that forego mixing up the rhyme scheme on the verses when they have the option to on a villanelle can still make a good villanelle, I suppose mixing up the rhyme scheme might throw a villanelle off course, I will hope to produce good villanelles, your villanelle was great,
I mean speaking from a poets perspective it was inspiring
scavengermouseful 2 years ago
Great to hear from you, glad you found something here to inspire! Thank you for letting me know.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Never heard of a villanelle. Really enjoyed and glad I found your channel.
xxxild 2 years ago
I only came across them recently, through another poet on YouTube. This was my first attempt, I've written a few now, most of them are now on YouTube. Thanks xxxild.
dashpoet 2 years ago
well done.
A Villanelle is a very difficult form.
I have wrote a few knowing it should rhyme.
5*
all the best.
Kean
keanghiero 2 years ago
Thanks again Kean. This was my second attempt at writing a villanelle. I have to say I enjoyed the discipline of writing to the tight form, it's something I'm sure I'll return to. Cheers for now, Mark.
dashpoet 2 years ago
we can have a long debate on the Villanelle Form. I've a LOVE-Hate affair with my villanelles...
5* again
all the best
Kean
keanghiero 2 years ago
love rhymes...
NewBrazdolph 2 years ago
You're in the right place then! Cheers Braz, good to hear from you.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Excellent example of a villanelle, not an easy form but one you pulled off with great dexterity, great!
andrewnorris1 2 years ago
Terrific positive comment, thank you andrewnorris, it's good to hear from you.
dashpoet 2 years ago
This is such a comforting poem, for those who find themselves sick of humanity from time to time.
What a beautiful form the villanelle is, and you've filled it with rich matter. Thank you.
quodlibette 2 years ago
I'm glad whenever there is comfort to be taken from my words. I am an optimist by nature, but even so struggle sometimes to retain a positive outlook, overwhelmed as we are by gushings of grim tidings. Ultimately, though, I do believe that love is stronger than hate, I do believe we have a future worth living for, worth the struggle. It will be different, but that is only natural! Thanks, quodlibette.
dashpoet 2 years ago
I love the words you came up with for this piece and the imagery of it.. I am not familiar with the "traditional" forms of poetry(or maybe have just forgotten them from my school days), so it is nice to hear this from you!!
AntaresInScorpius 2 years ago
Thank you. I have only just come across this form of poetry, as I noted in the 'info' box. I have never been a student of poetry, but always one who enjoys learning. I look forwards to exploring more over time, and sharing what I can.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Brilliant, if I could only master the form as well as you do. Every word flows together, the mood is constant and even.
DoorsChick1967 2 years ago
Perhaps we can learn from each other. I am very taken with what I have heard of your poetry, the way you combine your experience with such variety of styles. Thanks, DoorsChick.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Thank you for this villanelle. Just got back from a weekend in Belgium. It would be wonderful to imagine that each of those flowering poppies represented a smile.
PoetLina 2 years ago
Hard, if not impossible. The horror of war is too much for too many. Yet still...
dashpoet 2 years ago
Hey Mark,
A villanelle! Monstrously ambitious poetic form; I always find myself somewhat intimidated by it :) You've managed it beautifully, however. It reminds me a great deal of the famous war poet pieces (Dulce Et Decorum Est, etc), but with a subtle hint of hope that, understandably, many of those lack. Beautiful work, favourited.
George
ExaggeratedElegy 2 years ago
Somehow though, it seems to suit me to write to a fixed form. I know when to stop! I have only just discovered this, the villanelle. Usually I develop and employ my own structures, usually simply from the initial thoughts, the first lines. I'm sure that exploring more of the traditions of poetry will play a part of how I approach writing in future. Thanks George.
dashpoet 2 years ago
I was already dizzy when I saw "metamorphic allegory", just now. now now, I'm thinking of language visualization. and I will sleep now, 'cause I have to find a few guiding images... love the poems. thank you.
personalimagery 2 years ago
Ah yes, Metamorphic Allegory! That was fun to write... got a lot out of me, that otherwise might have simmered! Thanks so much for letting me know your thoughts on what I do.
dashpoet 2 years ago
"a ravaged face that yet does smile"
I love how you repeated this line.
I see myself in this piece.
Deep & beautiful!
The tranquility in your voice always works with your spoken Words. Where do you get it from?(=
BahenaD 2 years ago
From my mum and dad?! From life. From the focus that poetry brings to me, in a frenzied world. Who knows... I am simply glad that, in sharing what I do, I can give something that seems to be appreciated. Thanks Bahena.
dashpoet 2 years ago
From life, yes indeed that's the starting point for fundamental inspiration, I was talking to my friend about this the other day.
Another excellent poem Mark, great rhythm, expression I love the rhyme too, lovely too hear, 5*.
nafisaahmedidotcom 2 years ago
That i'll do it to you. Thank you Dash, you always bring a smile to my face...
BahenaD 2 years ago
Well done Dashpoet!! Though the form is more traditional, you sustain your own originality, vitality and colour. Love the ending line "a ravaged face yet does smile."
I have been attempting to smile more lately. So here's a smile for ya!
=)
you inspire sir!
Angelo
ASAngelo 2 years ago
:>) :-) :¬)
Now you've got me at it! Happy happy, to receive such positive reaction to my poetry. Thanks Angelo.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Very powerful imagery!
longhairred 2 years ago
From an intense session of writing, trying to condense thought into such rigid form. Best wishes to you, Mark.
dashpoet 2 years ago
I like the way you rime :)
and I like the poem :) 5* and one extra smilely face :) lol.
santiagodevill 2 years ago
Thanks for that Santiago...
five high...
five low...
too slow!
dashpoet 2 years ago
My first introduction to the villanelle form and my love for the sound and combining of different words means it appealed to me greatly! I look forward to checking out some of TheDisexists work too :)
TheRavenOfPoe 2 years ago
Glad to be a part of it, thanks Raven. I look forwards to seeing if you write some yourself...
dashpoet 2 years ago
a ravaged face that yet does smile
well done, Mark
ozjthomas 2 years ago
I am tempted to use the shorthand ;-) here for the first time! Thanks oz
dashpoet 2 years ago
This is really wonderful. Good meter.
EllyMcCormack 2 years ago
Thanks Elly, I'm pleased with how it turned out. I'm glad I posted it.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Dark images come to mind! Strong stuff Dash! Most enjoyed Sir! Cheers Mark!
EdMuirton 2 years ago
Thanks Ed. As ever, it's good to hear what you have to say. Cheers!
dashpoet 2 years ago
wow! glad to be of inspiration & thank you for the exposure. I find strict verse forms immensely pleasurable to work with because they constrain and distill the essence of thought, while providing that all important quality of rhythm.
As I said before, this is your glass half full poem, two fingers in the face 'of those who would destroy my brothers'. cheers
TheDisexists 2 years ago
Thanks... and thank you. I hope more people will find and enjoy your work. Cheers!
dashpoet 2 years ago
very powerful, slightly perturbing.Please write more, Dashpoet!
violetparme 2 years ago
Thanks Violet. I think war is always perturbing, but there seems no getting away from it...
dashpoet 2 years ago
mark, i have written a lot of villanelles, or attempts at them, and yours actually works :) the way you use repetition and rhyme feels very natural and as other posters were saying, you show why forms have a place still :)
charlottepoet 2 years ago
Thanks Charlotte, I'm glad you think so. I'm afraid I am no student of poetry, more an instinctive writer with a love of language. I only discovered the form yesterday. Writing this, though, has intrigued me enough to look further at traditional forms. I wonder whether you have posted any on your channel?
dashpoet 2 years ago
i haven't posted any of the formal poems i have done, but maybe for my video next week i'll try to do one :)
you should pick up writing metrical poetry by baer sometime. some fun exercises in there..what form to pick for next week..hmmm
charlottepoet 2 years ago
I look forwards to it... poetry and learning both. Thanks for getting back - cheers!
dashpoet 2 years ago
Another wonderful composition, Mark. Your subtleties of craft are refined; your wordage both concise and excellent to the meter, and creating vivid imagery (lines 7 and 9 the fine examples) and compound depth. Your first refrain invites the casual, the second takes its advantage to stark counterpoint. Your first and second stanzas taken together imply not the noble survivor, but the twisted and paradoxical death mask on the face of a corpse in macabre irony, a wonderful ...
harleynanda 2 years ago
(cont'd) ... subliminal emotional support to the piece. This is fine poetry my good friend, and a great example of why forms such as this took shape and remain important. The more of your work I become familiar with, the more am I impressed and the more I learn. And on that point, thank for pointing out yet another poet in your sidebar.
harleynanda 2 years ago
I am greatly touched that you should go to such length in critique of my poem. Until I started posting pieces on YouTube, I had worked essentially in isolation as a poet. I can learn a lot from comments such as yours, and I appreciate you taking the time, giving the thought you clearly have. Thank you. I tend to try to create layers of meaning in my poetry, and am thrilled to find that people are discovering the range of what is there.
dashpoet 2 years ago
I don't know who this is about, if anyone, other than me. Why do I relate to every word? maybe because I have "a ravaged face that yet does smile". I don't know.
5 *****
PaulBradford13 2 years ago
Ha! Although it is about no one in particular, simply a face of humanity, I confess I caught a look at myself in the video, saw some of the ravages of time! Being the type of person I am, I had to laugh! I see us all as the survivors, the ones who have got away with 'it'... so far.. we are the lucky ones.
dashpoet 2 years ago
I agree. Even if I get "caught" now, it was a good run.
love your writings Mark!
PaulBradford13 2 years ago
Thanks Paul - cheers to you.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Reading a poem with a dictionary in hand is kinda spoiling the sleight of words of sultry swooshing sounds
in sweet sad sonnets or villanelles .
It is like a song on the radio
where I never really understood the lyrics
but still can taste the quality.
This is a robust red wine I yet have to fully appreciate.
PuppyZwolle 2 years ago
Thanks for giving it a go! I hope that the words give enough of a flavour, without needing to know all their names. I always try to find words that can give pleasure simply from their sound, the shapes they form together. I hope you got a sense of what I tried to express through this, anyway. (The text is in the info panel, if a time comes when you want to check up on any of it.) I appreciate your comment, thanks again.
dashpoet 2 years ago
You bet I did get a sense. The tune is unmistakable.
PuppyZwolle 2 years ago
Great! Thanks for getting back to me.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Ome of your best.. and I agree with marycigarettes. Favourited :)
ninapoetry 2 years ago
Thanks Nina. I never know when I will be able to write poetry, so it is always something of a surprise, a relief even, when something decent comes out. As long as they do, I'll keep posting them! Good to hear from you - cheers!
dashpoet 2 years ago
What an excellent pome. And you did a wonderful job with this form. You make the form work FOR you while form usually makes me her bitch. :)
tinySpectacle 2 years ago
A comment that made me laugh... thanks for that! I think perhaps, because a lot of what I write follows quite a tight form, albeit unconventional, that I take to this sort of thing fairly readily. I guess in a hectic life it can be a relief to have some order - perhaps this is mine!
dashpoet 2 years ago
Great rhythm. I'll check that form out!
janeczka 2 years ago
I just googled 'villanelle' and, as you can imagine, immediately had the form defined for me. I enjoyed working to it, there is scope for all sorts of word play. My first try ended up more of a nonsense poem, although I have to say I like it none-the-less! I'll post it sometime. I look forwards to hearing what you come up with, as and when you decide to give it a go. Cheers!
dashpoet 2 years ago
Very well done, Mark -- the structure is unstrained, the subject meditative -- "the ravaged face that yet doth smile" seems a poem all on its own!
liz1060 2 years ago
Thanks Liz. It is an evocative image I think, certainly as soon as it came to me I thought there was a poem in it. Lovely to hear from you - cheers!
dashpoet 2 years ago
This is a tremendous poem, Mark. My advice--for what it's worth--find a print magazine to send this one to. It deserves much attention. Gorgeous poem.
Gave me chills...
Roy
twohawksfucking 2 years ago
Thank you Roy - that is a very generous and encouraging comment. I have just received an email from United Press (who have published several of my poems in anthologies), inviting entry into this years National Poetry Anthology Competition. I think I'll stick this one in, and see what happens. Your comment is always appreciated - I know you as an exceptionally able poet - so again, thank you.
dashpoet 2 years ago
i love the main thrust of the thing...'the ravaged face that yet doth smile'....that's a very strong picture mark
marycigarettes 2 years ago
Thanks mary. The two principle lines came to me quite quickly, the time was taken stitching them into the overall pattern!
dashpoet 2 years ago
An impressive use of the villanelle form, the refrain is excellent. 5*/Fav
RowanFortuneWood 2 years ago
Thanks Rowan. This is my first proper bash at it, I can see myself writing more, perhaps exploring some other forms. I enjoy the process of condensing ideas into poems. Usually I develop my own patterns, often quite rigid in themselves. The added discipline of writing to the villanelle form was, I found, stimulating.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Blew me away... 5*/faved
DavidRandallCurtis 2 years ago
Extraordinary what words can do, put in the right order. Thanks David.
dashpoet 2 years ago
Well done Mark. A verse form that should be used more often methinks
bigeeezy 2 years ago
Thank you. I have only just come across it, having viewed TheDisexists video. Good to hear from you, thanks again.
dashpoet 2 years ago