Peter Hain argues over BNP possibly on Question Time (19Oct09)

[chris77777777ify]

Big deal I'm racist I break the speed limit to.... Boooo hoooo

BN fucking P all the way home

[Alan7997]

Many people are agreeing with the BNP but fall short of actually voting for them. This hesitation will not last for ever unfortunately which quite frankly leaves the main 3 parties with a very simple choice: Start listening to the white working class majortiy and represent us in the manner that you were elected to do or face the horrible possibility of history repeating it's self. We've had 30 years crap jobs and unchecked immigration, you don't need to go far in a major city to feel the anger.

[scottishchap2008]

i doubt peter hains "former" communist party is going to be banned soon

[Blabloo72]

Peter Hain is such a w*nker! He is anti-democratic. If you want a party silenced because you don't like what they say then it's simple - you are against democracy.

[tony00165]

'Free speech is not to defend people you agree with but also to defend the view of people you don't agree with (in essence)...Notice how Hain jumps in and talks over the last few words so it loses impact...part of the box of tricks politicians use.

[tony00165]

Hain says that the BNP have a racist constitution.....How about the black police officers association.?The BNP are a democratic party and a million people FREELY voted for them...you just can't argue with that because you disagree with their policies..free speech is the cornerstone of the nation and must be protected at all cost....The rule of law is paramount...Hain is a disgrace..what's he frightened of!

[Cena60793]

PETER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!

[LoveEuropeHateTheEU]

I think it was good that Nick Griffin was allowed on Question Time, one because he has a right to free speech, and two because it showed everyone how racist the BNP really is.

[andresviveros]

Am black, I want to know if i was to vote BNP will i be signing my death warrant

[stuart556]

@andresviveros no, i vote BNP, we won't kick everyone out, if you were born here or u want to come here to work, accept our laws and dont try and convert us, then your welcome here, it's the muslims who protest against the UK that we dont want.

[samtheman180]

Vote BNP!

[NatDemUK]

"I'm not saying that they should be surpressed"

What fucking rubbish!! He is a supporter of the UAF. Plus, who gives a shit about Jan Moir's article anyway?

[Olekander]

#Disgusting cunt

[kirstym84]

what a thieving ,yellow belly swine Hain is...BNP 2010

[mozzaragan]

what a commie,bnp sure has him rattled.

[ArchieRoylance]

Peter Hain is a complete and utter pillock. It's his and his party's fault that Griffin is in the limelight because they're in denial about ordinary peoples' perfectly reasonable concerns about immigration.

[sweetypie000]

who the hell is Peter Hain to tell the british public who and who they can't vote for ?

The BNP are a valid and voted in party and they have rights to be aired just like any other legal party.

I don't like this censorship and being told the BNP are something they are not.

I have no option but to vote for them as I detect this country being called a democracy which it clearly is not

[LeighHobnob]

Peter Hain is now complaining that because Nick Griffin went on Question Time, support for the BNP has now risen to 20% in a recent poll. I would suggest that this is not because he was on the telly, but that he was bullied for almost an hour by 4 other panellists and the audience, not to mention the pre arranged mob outside. I dont agree with a heck of a lot of BNP views, but the Brits love an underdog and I'm afraid that Mr Griffin has been made a martyr by all of this.

[britmanuk]

Smoke and mirrors by the media. How come the IRA became a major political party, they murdered dozens of people, BNP have not.. Keep going BNP cos the rest of the aprties are doing nothing for British people and work.

[sweetypie000]

because the uk government and the american governments have been sponsoring the ira for years

[lcx50]

peter hain is a hypocrite talking about court cases

someone should remind him of brenda downes judicial review case

[whatisitfawlty]

Hain is a dickhead. I'd certainly rather have a drink wit h Griffin than a creep like Hain anyday

[CharmingLordSausage]

Hain perfectly illustrates Godwin's law in that appearance.

[Minisha]

I'm feeling a little nervous about this, honestly.

Not being white, and all.

Am I over-reacting?

[steven220994]

no...your right to be nervous...the BNP are sycos

[escortmk112]

When will the Tory Labour ect party stop useing the words we live in a democratic country only when it suits them. Lets have a show of hands on imigration. same again on being to politically correct same again on the EU SAME AGAIN ON LAW AND ORDER .Why shut someone up when the majority want to hear and have a democratic vote on someone elses point of view. Words like Tory/ Labour and the words corrupt frightend and liers seem to sound right in the same sentance

[emonker]

Very shrewd comment liarpoliticians, so anyone that does not agreed with the racist policies of the BNP is clearly a "lefty" then? Who is the "everyone else" you speak of? I think you'll find you are still very much in the minority, and that the "ordinary working man" does not hold deep seated hatred for any other race.

[escortmk112]

Quite right but at the same time i for one am fed up with being told to move over and let some more imigrants into this country ,fed up with being told what i can say and not say incase it may be true but offends an immigrant and fed up with listening to lies and haveing the corrupt Tory and Labour party takeing the P..S

[liarpoliticians]

The BNP are lefty as well. New Labour love immigration, the BNP don't. Other than that, there is not much difference to either parties policies. That's why they hate each other so much.

[steven220994]

yea but BNP wants to literally kick every non brittsh citizen out of britain...

[LoveEuropeHateTheEU]

@liarpoliticians The BNP are not lefty at all. They want to stop trade with Europe. They want to leave the UN and the Commonwealth. They are against our special relationship with America. They want to reinstall capital and corporal punishment. Hardly left wing material, is it?

[Danstrhal818]

@LoveEuropeHateTheEU They don't want to leave the UN, they don't want to leave the commonwealth and they are not against America

[CookieCrumblz]

@liarpoliticians the bnp are like you.

[liarpoliticians]

@CookieCrumblz That's a bold claim, now try backing up your statement.

[CookieCrumblz]

@liarpoliticians Oi you, Labour is not afascist, homophobic party that wants detention centres and capital punishment. They are too the far-right they hate the left- they believe the BBC is a far-left organization that ought to be privatized. They are Nazis and anti-commies. Thats not Labour. The Tories are more like the BNP, and you are a fascist who believes that the centre and the left is evil and wicked, like the BNP" So fuck off to your far-right friends and stop posting and chatting shit.

[MrGilles1990]

@CookieCrumblz The BNP manifesto is basically the old labour party with some racist values.

the BNP are the working classes party, you are right that they are like the Nazi's but the Nazi's where on the far-left.

[CookieCrumblz]

@MrGilles1990 BNP are the idiots' party. The Nazis were NOT far-left. The BNP are far-right, they have more in common with the Conservative right.

[MrGilles1990]

@CookieCrumblz Lol and what policies do the right share with the BNP?

except from the death penalty?

The BNP is far-left.

[CookieCrumblz]

@MrGilles1990 Death penalty, anti-gay rights, withdrawal from Europe, corporal punishment, white supermacism, sexism. Why is it that Griffin was a Tory or why is it that Tebbitt voted for UKIP and BNP in Euro-elections. Or the Monday Club, Thatcher's support for the apartheid. The BNP are a FAR-RIGHT party, you are showing a lack of political knowledge if you think otherwise.

[MrGilles1990]

@CookieCrumblz how is white supremacism "right wing"? it's racist.

Many "old labour" party members are anti-EU for example Dennis Skinner and Tony Benn are anti EU.

Tebbit voted twice isn't that electoral fraud? lol

you show lack of political knowledge when you say the BNP are far right.

If anything they are far-left, or to put it better "third position"

[CookieCrumblz]

@MrGilles1990 Skinner and Benn do not represent the whole of the left. Not every Old Labourite, is eurorealist. Some New Labourites are eurosceptic. Euroscepticism is a thing of the right. The BNP is a far-right party, you know NOTHING about politics.

[MrGilles1990]

@CookieCrumblz It was the Tory party who where originally the Bilderberger traitor's not Labour.(learn History).

Left-wing Euroscepticism is older than Right wing Euroscepticism.

Lord's cannot vote, shows how much you know about politics.

Blair was a Euro-fascist.

[MrGilles1990]

@CookieCrumblz How is the BNP far-right? does it believe in the abolition of the minimum wage? No it wants to increase it.

Does it want to cut the State, No it wants to increase it.

Is the BNP monarchist, no Republican.

Is the BNP full of aristocrats, No it's made up of the working class.

The BNP is Fascist, but Fascism is not right wing.

Ever heard of the third position?

[insanic1]

"If you havent stopped them and taken them on, their views triumph" lol that sums it up really

[ray25620]

Is it because the BNP stands up for ordinary white working people, who Hain hates, whereas the IRA wanted to kill ordinary working people. Is this why the CUNT Hain wants to exclude the BNP for all time but is prepared to cosey up to the IRA? How any normal person can vote for this pile of shit Hain is beyond me.

[emonker]

Exactly who are these "ordinary white working people" that you speak of? Honestly how far do you think you would have to go down in your family tree before you found someone not "ethnically British" it's ridiculous! Even if you are deluded enough to claim you are 100% Anglo-Saxon, the Saxons came from what is now Germany.

[ray25620]

All good posts here, except they're all too MODERATE! This CUNT Hain is okay with the IRA, those mass murderers of ordinary working people, including children, becoming part of the political process but he won't give the BNP a chance to reform themselves and become part of the democratic process. If the CUNT Hain was so encouraging to the IRA when they wanted to go the democratic route then why does he want to exclude the BNP, who have, unlike the IRA, never killed anyone.

[robbie169]

What is Peter hain frightened of, The truth perhaps argue your case against the BNP policies. The Problem you have is Labour policies are now laughable. You keep believing that the 1 million votes in the euro elections are protest votes fool. Vote BNP

[adokskoda]

If Peter Hain spent half as much time on his constituancy than he does stealing money and trying to dictate who to vote for, Neath would be a thriving town. Instead we have no jobs and no public transport to get to towns and cities that do have some! It's about time he left parliament!

[TheHepworth]

It's funny how a man who has escaped on a technicality a charge of bank robbery

and been excused (by his own mates) of embezzling £103,000. Oh I nearly forgot the criminal damage conviction,

has the tangoed neck to vilify Mr Griffin for putting his thoughts to paper. Bloody crooked hypocrite!

[JAYMZACHILLES]

THE BNP don't spread hatred they just tell you what you think xD how the uk is bein over run and we are letting in all these bad ppl who want to kill us WE ARE FULL . NOW NOT ALL ARE BAD but cum on just look at the laws in this place all NICK wants is the BEST 4 the uk and the British ppl end of story

[VoteBNP]

Anybody with any sense listening to Peter Hain would realise there is a new kind of fascism in British politics, well actually not new, more like silent, and has been for decades.

BNP not fascists!! The real fascists are the Lib/Lab/Con

Vote BNP

[wasabimanic]

Hain helped bring about the disaster that is Zimbabwe. He condemned millions to the atrocities Mugabe, his boy,committed. Hain cannot escape culpability. Why haven't the establishment hounded him

[raffles70]

well done to the bbc for allowing the bnp to appear the bnp is growing at a very fast rate and will be in power,if these cowards from this goverment stopped bending over backwarrds for muslims and immgration this goverment and conserv are nothing but traiters to this country i was a labour voter but i will be voteing bnp the party that fights for britain

[italianchappy]

I hope the BNP grows more. All Europe needs a BNP party. It's what our politicians deserve. They've undermined the working class wellfare with massive immigration to favor corporations while making a little elite enrich themselves as never before in history. The ruin of their lending and banking practices proves their evil nature. BNP FTW. Well deserved.

[Counterrevolutionite]

Hain = caucasian hating Stalinist.

[johneunson]

i don't agree with the bnp. i don't agree with what they say but i would fight for their right to say it. the more new labour fight this, the more publicity the bnp get. is nick g such a powerful man that new labour needs to be scared? he's a little man with little ideas.

[VincesVinyl]

The main party in this country, New Labsevative, are terrified of the BNP.