Mexican Drug Cartels Now Control Parts of Arizona [[END THIS WAR]]

[StuffedAnimalAdvisor]

Well if Iraq troops are coming home...guess we know where they should be heading.

If our president actually gives a crap....

[GalaticSpaceHero]

@Aniah888 No, i dont need any more addicts and prostitutes walking around here like zombies. You want to do to do cocaine or heroine go to Las Vegas. You have medical card and need to get stoned , Doctor gives you the ok , you get it from the Govt, who cares, But coke and herion, bus ticket to Juareze

[GalaticSpaceHero]

3000 soldiers! Yea , just put border Patrol uniforms on and there you have it. boots on the ground. Why do you need arresting powers any way, Your not LEO.?Your treating them as Prisoners, zip tie, sending them back, Soldiers detaining for further investigation.  then soldiers can Patrol. Mexican Army is doing the same work on the other side.Soldiers stoping human and vehicale traffic.

[hubiethesaint]

what fools believe that our politicians have no hand in this?

la raza and john mcain don't have anything to do with this either

[kennys42series]

As a tax payer, we need to demand Washington to clean up Arizona. This is not acceptable for congress to get pay checks, but yet not do they're JOB! If you do catch drug killers, drop them off on the white house back door. May be then they will start caring.

[zozma38]

I'm glad shit like this is happening. May sound messed up to say but more of this needs to happen in the US and it needs to be as brutal as it is in Mexico, no worse. Maybe it'll get the country to look at the effects of prohibition and find a better solution (legalization).

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[MESTIZO61904]

the weed is sold to dumb white people. ( by the way they get riped off) ,, these dumb white people shud get deported back africa ..hahaha

[111RobinHood]

Of course the American government can solve the problem, but they don't want to. No problem to illegally invade Iraq and send troops there and to Afghanistan for the oil. And if the problem isn't being solved in Arizona it's because the government doesn't want to solve it. We all know that the CIA and government are involved in drugs. Most politicians and bankers are corrupt. What's my point? If there is a drastic problem in Arizona, it's because the government wants this to happen.

[209mona]

the USA needs to send the drug users to mexico and stop funding the rehab programs . it would save a lot of money for both sides trade crack heads for workers.and maybe then they would think twice about picking up a crack pipe. the USA wouldnt have this problem if they just kept their nose clean. when people stop doing drugs no one makes money. So educate your kids about the risk of drug use and not to be weak minded or sell out for a bag of drug money. we need strong kids with back bones

[djsdojo]

The government can do whatever they want but as long as these cartels are making profits they will ALWAYS be in business.

[green44centaur]

The Band Known as Hanson has been in contact with known Drug Cartels from Mexico.

[redoubtmilitia]

The Gov DOES NOT CARE. ITS CRYSTAL CLEAR ppl..Stop wasting time begging for their help..Form a civilian border volunteer unit, deputies them, arm them, and shut the bordered...How bad does it have to get and who has to die before someone, ANYONE, takes serious viable action to shut this down? Maybe when some politicians relative gets hurt or some US city becomes a mushroom cloud from a Terrorist infiltration will the lethal racial pandering stop and real action start..

[mexicano7771000]

@redoubtmilitia Woah.. We the people of the united states HAVE THE POWER.. The people of this country are the law. If a majority of this country wants a law taken off or put on we have the power to do so. Not a damn thing the government can do to change that. You know why?? Cause we are the government! You?.. I don't know about you.. You stand for nothing, So you fall for everything.

[CrazyItalian992]

Send the US military to shoot the shit out of these cartels. This is an invasion. Get our land back.

[josestrada]

paisas scare me lol.

[markrsg]

DEFUND the BASTARDS Legalize it!!  We grow better than they are smuggling in

[Girz0r]

legalize marijuana. nuff said.... worry about the drugs that actually destroy people's lives.

[VulcanXL]

It's called LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!

[jamesuslovesu]

REALLY? we need 3000 soldiers? how bout we just fuckin legalize it already so the cartels stop making money?

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu so, should we legalize COCAINE as well?

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong yes,in the netherlands where drug use has been decriminalized drug use has gone down and crime has gone down. when drugs are regulated by the government it makes it harder for children to get ahold of them,surveys of schools have shown that it is easier for kids to get illegal drugs than alcohol or cigarettes(drug dealers dont check for id store clerks do).i dont use cocaine but i think anything should be legal for someone to do if they can do it without hurting someone else.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu Cocaine and hard drugs are ILLEGAL in Netherlands. You can argue over the benefits of marijuana and hemp, but cocaine and hard drugs have zero benefits. They only have negatives. No country -- even in the most liberal part of Europe -- legalizes any hard drug.

The Mexican drug cartels primarily deal in cocaine -- which means even if the US government legalizes marijuana, the drug war will still continue. And few people are stupid enough to suggest legalizing cocaine.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong drugs are illegal in the netherlands but they have been decriminalized. they take care of their people and reduce harm with their drug policies(i suggest you watch the video (what about amsterdam - how bad is their drug problem)while our drug policies directly cause harm to our people(even those not associated with drugs). by the logic if a drug has no benefits it shouldnt be legal cigarettes should be illegal. if someone can do a drug without hurting someone else it should be legal.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu Drugs DO victimize other people. People who are addicted to hard drugs can't function properly, and they can't hold a job because of a narcotic addiction, yet they need money to feed their hard addiction. Where do you think they get the money?

Unlike marijuana, hard drugs create active, severe addiction. The addicts, who can't function or hold a job normally, frequently resort to crimes to get money to feed their addiction.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong people would be less likely to resort to crime if instead of getting imprisoned and given a criminal record they were given drug rehab and mental health care.some people can function fine while taking drugs or alcohol or take drugs or alcohol at the end of the day to relax.some people do crazy stuff when they do drugs or alcohol.imprisoning people makes them more likely to do drugs and commit crimes.id rather tax money go to reducing crime and helping people than making users criminals.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu people make their own choices and use drugs and become addicted.... and then we, everyone else, the taxpayers, are supposed to pay for their rehab?? ABSOLUTELY HELL NO.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu People should be responsible for their own lives. They can't choose to ruin their own lives and then expect everyone else to pay for their mistakes.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong i agree but that problem is with the system and not the drugs. right now everyone pays to arrest,prosecute,and imprison people for drugs,i would rather we pay for rehab instead(or better yet them or their loved ones if they can afford it). if someone has a problem with drugs and continues to do them then the problem is with the person and not the drug itself, there are people who do drugs without hurting others or ruining their lives.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu i don't think we should be paying at all. if someone has a drug problem, i say we give them a ton of drug and inject it right into their blood system and get it over with. save taxpayers a whole lot of money.

I support marijuana legalization, but not hard drugs like cocaine, heroine. Hard drugs create severe addiction and debilitate a person, which leads to many other problems. But legalizing marijuana won't solve the drug war - because hard drug is at the heart of the war

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong you are in support of murdering someone in the interest of money,that is very sad, do you belong to a religion that tells you to hold money to higher standard than human life?

if hard drugs are at the heart of the drug war then why is most of the budget used for marijuana?

hard drugs can create severe addiction and can debilitate a person but when that happens the person needs to get over their addiction,sending them to prison to learn how to be a criminal is not the solution

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu people are just not going to support legalization of hard drug. period.

and i'm absolutely against taxpayers paying for rehab or treatment of people who get themselves addicted to any sort of drugs. It's not enough you guys want to legalize drug, and now you want everyone else to pay for your drug problem?!? Do me a favor. If you have an addiction problem, just go kill yourself and don't burden the rest of us.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong people shold be in favor of decriminalizing hard drugs though, as it has been greatly successful in reducing crime and drug use in amsterdam. this is because rather than spend insane amounts of money arresting people, prosecuting them and imprisoning them as well as killing people(many that are innocent or had nothing to do with drugs) like we do in the u.s. they try to help people get over their addictions

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu Why don't we learn from Singapore instead? Do you know what Singapore does to people who are caught with drugs -- either users or pushers? It dishes out the death penalty to anyone in possession of 2 grams or more of any sort of drug.

For the past 20 years, Singapore consistently has one the lowest crime rate in the world -- and the highest living standard in the world, even lower than Netherlands. And it consistently behind either Sweden or Canada.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong singapore's policy is in violation of international human rights law, also despite using the death penalty for drugs singapore has seen quite an increase in drug use and addiction, a member of the ruling government party stated that the mandatory death sentence has not been effective in curtailing drug trafficking. the lesson we learn here is that harsher penalties do not reduce drug use. life is sacred money is not

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu singapore in violation of human right law? where did you pull those out? your arse?  singapore has one of the lowest drug trafficking in the world. you are just making up stuff here to support legalizing ALL drugs. when you LIE, everything else you say loses credibility.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong the death penalty for drug offences is a violation of international human rights laws, look it up. i don't need to lie. it is unfortunate that there are people who value money and posessions over human life.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu I lived in Singapore, you dumbass.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu do you know Singaporeans do not need to get a VISA to go to the U.S. and most European countries? BUT Americans and Europeans actually need a VISA to go to the Singapore. Do you know why? Singapore is such a fabulous place that Singaporeans don't really want to overstay their VISA -- they just want to go back to Singapore after they finish their visit to the U.S. or whatever; but a lot of Americans and Europeans would overstay their VISA to stay in Singapore.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu And unlike Netherlands that is saddled with debts -- because it produces nothing, and it keeps taxing productive members of the society to subsidy losers like drug users, Singapore has huge reserves.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu Singapore is the PERFECT example of death penalty and tough sentences DO work. It has one of the highest living standards (consistently ranked among the top 5) and lowest crime rates in the world. For whatever reason, anarchists like yourself keep ignoring Singapore -- because it's a living proof that your tough sentence and tough drug laws CAN and DO work.  And Singapore is the perfect example of that.

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu People like me will never support decriminalization of hard drugs, because I have seen tough drug laws HAVE worked wonder in Singapore.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong not everyone values money more than human life

[ktchong]

@jamesuslovesu I am actually for banning cigarette as well.  I'm not a smoker, but I've been sick (respiratory illnesses) because of second-hand smoke. Why should I pay for somebody else' addiction.

[jamesuslovesu]

@ktchong if someone forced you to inhale smoke then the problem is with the actions of the person not the cigarette.nearly everyone i know smokes,but when they do i choose to stand where i am not breathing in smoke.people are capable of doing drugs without harming others,if someone wants to do drugs all week long without hurting anyone else and they can still function then fine by me. if someone does and hurts somebody they should be arrested.if they do and cant function we should get them help

[WcHDICE]

let then we need marijuana

[SolarEXtract]

Anyone else ready to end The War On Drugs™? I know I am!

[WatDaStreetsCreated]

cant stop em juss ganna make it worst ppl n police will start dieing.even worst if they pass that racist law...

[dullsvillain]

Build another Dang fence !

......or stop prohibition

[Hedcase71]

He will get what he asks for, they will clean up the area and claim victory (at the tax payer's expense). The hole while the cartels are setting up new routes and implementing new ways to get their product to market.

Put the products on the market, In a legalized and controlled way. Get control of these now uncontrolled substances, so that people know what they are getting into and if one does overdose maybe someone will call the ambulance instead of worrying about what people will think.

[WolfyJ]

@Hedcase71 Its just like the prohibition. once the legalized it well, look at it now.

[1998disco72]

@WolfyJ You are only asking for one thing. There will still be human smuggling do you want to legalize that? Yeah, if we leglaize it blah blah you pro pot users are a broken record. Even with the so called medical marjuana in some states they are still using illegal channels to get their product. Do you want to legalize meth and heroin?

[1998disco72]

@Hedcase71 Go and talk to a DEA agent he will show you some info to discredit your stupid request. I aqree marijuana should be legal but what else, once you do that you cant close pandoras box. It is a much more difficult situation then just saying hey it's legal!!

[silversobe]

End the drug war and regulate these substances, instead of letting them make cartels and drug lords billions in profit!

[DruidAnthony]

"The war on Mexican Hermaphrodite dirt weed!"

Thats why they call it Tustoned AZ! Its no new news that Mexican Hermaphrodite dirt weed drug dealers sell there stuff there..

That's why you can buy weed for like $40.00 an OZ.