I envisage individual colonies on Mars- Chinese, Indian, Russian, American, European... and perhaps we'll see an American revolution scenario? Maybe Martian colonies will declare independence? Who knows.
@aturayd Mars is gravity is about 40% of earth not 60. Still it would be enough to prevent muscle atrophy and bone degradation. Why would you want to spend 6-9 months cooped up in a space ship, if you could get there faster. Also if you live on Mars for several years, you would get to the point you could not handle earth gravity. Still who would want to come back to earth, why not live the greatest adventure.
@aturayd You are correct, being able to land and do useful work is the point of the trip. One thing to consider, if we have a base on Mars, it will be some time before its self sufficient, so regular resupply trips are essential. The colonist may not be able to wait 6 months for supplies and also zero g weakens the body, the less time you spend in it, the better. Do a search for NAUTILUS, it a space ship with a wheel for artificial gravity.
@unclefixer mars is not 0g. it is 0.6g or 60% earth gravity. that is sufficient to keep muscle degradation in check, especially if they are spending lots of time doing physical activity such as exploring the planet. Yes regular supply trips and changing people out will be essential probably for centuries, as even with a full fleged colony with thousands of people it will be beneficial for earth mars commerce.
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG @ samzurick*dot*com contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers". THANKS!!
The belief in God will stand the test of time, will humanity be so lucky? If there is indeed an almighty god he resides in each of us and we are responsible for the goals we set and the tasks we accomplish along the way on our path. If we have to deviate from that path and return at some later point let us remember that it is not god, not mythical beliefs or superstition that drives us ever forward but our eternal belief in the human spirit and if it seems magical so be it! Great video and music
The artificial gravity theory of spinning the spacecraft on a tether won't work in my opinion. Too many moving parts. It needs to be simplified before it will work.
Imagine if all countries of the world would give their 2% of state's annual budget each year to "colonize mars" project. We would be there in like 10-15 years
Imagine if all countries of the world would give their 2% of state's annual budget each year to "colonize mars" project. We would be there in like 10-15 years
@quto01 This good man is "Conquest of Paradise", the soundtrack of the movie Colombus for the colonisation of the New World. Written by GREEK composer and musical genius Vangelis Papathanasiou, this piece has become a symbol of exploration, voyages into the unknown and great undertakings. Long live the Greek soul!
@wing2912 Yeah we're, we're so clever but yet so dumb as we dont work together we are all mostly in it for personal gain.......shame we could go so far in less time
@MrBubonicChronic Why? Why is it too early? Its exactly that prevailing thought which is keeping humans from going to mars. We could have been to mars 20 years ago had we pursued it instead of the space shuttle.
When man leave earth, to enter the red rock. I wish them luck. For there will be the start of the human seperation. After millions of years we will both be human. Even though the ones on the red rock will be something entirly else for our eyes. We can start spreading life to all the planets. Being the true God. Ironic as it may seem, Again created in the image of us.
@Topaz997235 I would to but unfortunently they never really looked into the details of that design but have started looking at the SLS which would use shuttle parts and look almost the same as ares or ares 5. They want that one to fly by 2016
I believe very passionately in something. Not god, not any other supernatural being... I believe in mankind. We will colonize Mars and the moon, we will travel to new star systems, there are no limits to how far we can get!
in 3d animation yes you can colonized whatever you want even the sun if you want too. God made everything each for their own purpose & usage. Misused anything & you'll faced each consequences. People wishing to colonize & inhabit mars is like a fish wishing to swim in air.
@MrSaladin1985 Lol, get your religious babble off here. Your kind of people would see humanity stagnated and war-torn on this rock forever. So please, GTFO.
@Topaz997235 An atmosphere does exist on mars but the parachutes would have to be way bigger than ones used on earth maybes even 10 times bigger than what is used on earth.
that might seem strange since objects on earth fall up to 320kph in the density of the troposphere (troposphere is the layer of the atmosphere we live in, so between sea lvl and 8kilometres altitude (18kilometres actualy, but the denser dominant layer up to 8km)
and earths atmosphere is 100times thicker, But at 28kilometres altitude on earth the atmospheric pressure is similar to that of mars. yet there are planes that can fly at this altitude or nearly at this altitude just above
parachute works, but yes because the atmosphere its so thing, you have to precisely aim along the horizon of the planet to efficiently slow it down, but it is possible. large enough parachutes can decrease a spacepod sized object just below mach 1 (280meter per second in mars atmosphere) (just a lil bit faster then a 747) from that velocity simple rockets can drop its speed to 35mph at which in vikings (mars rover) case it opened pillows to soft land.
Parachutes are used to slow down the descent; final landing is done with thrusters.
Radiation is a hazard we can deal with - all you need to do is to properly shield the habitable section of the ship. Also, a new tech. is being developed that will use artificial magnetic fields to reduce the amount of charched particles reaching the ship. A mission to Mars is doable with present-day or near-future technology. All we need is money and a political leadership willing to commit itself to this goal.
@Unitor677 then it will move onto the solar system, then when thats done, we move to another galaxy and fuck that up, then another dimension or an alternate universe and fuck it all up. on the way, we'll kill off the indegious aliens
@StickGuitarMan first of all what the hell are you talking about? i never said i wanted to stop anything, secondly of course mars is like 1/100th the atmosphere of earth, DUH! lol, everyone knows that, i meant like eventually we'll make it livable for humans, but thats is 100's of years from now, we'll be long and dead by then. and thirdly i was just fukn around about us fukning things up, your taking it too seriously
To make this sale & cost effective the lander will need to be single staged & utilize thermal-nuclear rockets. This will keep it light enough to propel there & fuel can be 'breed' when needed. Chem propulsion associated with deep space travel is the physics equiv to racing a formula1 grand-prix vehicle fitted with the latest 'steam engine'. Granted that technology for steam engines today is a lot better than yester-year 'a steam engine is a steam engine & limited by it's very laws of physics!'
The key to space travel is to find a faster way to get there. The vasimir rocket can get us there in 39 days that makes it possible to make two or more trips a year instead of every two years. Second we need a interplanetary space fleet, ie ships that all they do is travel from earth to other planets. They carry men, landing craft and supplies to establish bases. We would need a cheap way to get into space and a way to make money off of it and not depend on fickle politicians anymore.
maybe u should understand how much it costs to put a 3by3foot capsule into orbit let alone to another planet. Let me enlighten you. about a billion dollars. Let alone a bigger spacecraft, what a uneducated comment,
dude, there wont be any larger spacecraft (apart from spacestations whom are assembled trough multiple launches) before we humans discover, develop and research new propulsion systems apart from rockets,
as long as there is no replacement, there will not be bigger ships. Unless you and i wanna waste our tax moneys, cause ofcourse its able to build larger ones, but its extremely financial inefficient. And so are wars, so if they would stop the iraqi war, then perhaps we might build bigger ships, but building larger ships on frequent production rates will not come before new propulsion types are researched, so dont expect any of that.
@unclefixer actually, getting there any faster than 180 days isnt that helpful, as that is the necessary time frame for a free return trajectory. If we had propulsion of that variety or nuclear thermal rockets, we would use it to bring more to the martian surface instead of getting there faster.
Why would we want to go to Mars? Our sun will last for another 4 billion years and when it starts to run out of fuel, it will get bigger, Mars will become hot again and the sun will terraform Mars for us releasing hopefully large quantities of water just below the surface. Humans can then use this water to create oxygen and colonise Mars.
I've read up on Mars Direct only a very small amount, but from what I've read, I doesn't look like it includes the VASIMR drives. I think those are vital for decreasing exposure to cosmic rays, and 39 days - artificial gravity may not even be needed.
Has the Mars Society made a sort of "updated" version of Mars Direct including VASIMR drives?
Sure Mars Direct is possible RIGHT NOW, but IMO, by the time we go to Mars, VASIMR will be ready. It'll be sooner than other tech, anyways
War sounds bad, but you have to realize in Iraq we're stopping murderers who would otherwise kill many innocent people.
I believe money should be taken from social programs, not Iraq.
The ENTIRE Department of Defense (not just Iraq) only got 18% of 2010's congressional budget.
All our social programs took 59%.
Social programs, though with good intentions, are inefficient and prone to much porkage. Private sector would spend it better, so more people could be helped.
I hate the fact that we have so much technology, ambition and intelligence, held back by an equal amount of budgetary stupidity and bureaucracy. It's been 40 fucking years since we landed on the Moon - by all rights we should have a Mars base by now!
One little question & potential problem: How do you land on Mars? I'm not sure they've figured out how to land heavy equipment on Mars.
The atmosphere requires a fairly quick deceleration to avoid over-heating on entry. You can't orbit basically down to the surface like you can on the moon. But it's too thin for parachutes to effectively slow the vehicle to an acceptable velocity for rockets to be effective for a large payload.
@nesokretep Landing the way as shown in this video has been done before (not sure but I think it was firstly done by the Viking lander). This video is in accordance with the suggestions made by The Mars Society. It is a thougt-through concept. and one of the cheapest ways of getting to mars.
@tomplaytom -- Yes, some version of what they show in this video is probably the way to go. But landing with a Viking is significantly different from landing with humans or with support equipment for humans.
The problem is that mass increases as the cube of size while the surface area of a parachute only increases as the square of the size. So you cannot merely scale up a Viking paracute and have a go at it with humans.
You have a geometrically increasing problem for a larger package.
@nesokretep -- I understand your point about the increasing diffulty of landing with the help of parachutes when payloads get heavy. However, I don't think the chutes will have any difficulty of taking the weight of the lander on mars, so it is just a matter of being able to make them large enough. Hopefully that can be done. Otherwise another breaking method will certainly be found. I do share Corinthian404's frustration that it all takes longer than necessary.
@tomplaytom -- Exactly right about the budget thing. We've spent how many trillions of dollars bailing out failed banks and how many more trillions on stupid wars?
For a fraction of that amount we could go back to the moon AND solve the whole Mars problem.
@nesokretep lets not forget they wasted about 2 trillion on the war against drugs as well. Could had a huge space station as a starting point for journey to out space for that kinda money.
@Marci124 YES! 3:32 Triumph of science! I hope I live to see it... By the year 2025, we choose to put a solar powered garden light on mars- not because these things are easy, but because they are hard.
it was nice to see the flags of russia, USA, germany, great britian, france, japan, canada and australia on the spacecraft, hopefully the nations of the world will work together to land on mars and maybe one day colinize it. It will be an acheivment of the worlds nations not just one and will unite humanity under one banner...
@ryan3551 A truly international mission may be hard to come by due to politics (we can't avoid one nation not leading the others), but yes I def think it should be an international project with lots of commercial businesses like SpaceX helping. There should be an international crew, say 1 American, 1 Canadian, 1 Russian, 1 European, 1 Asian, and I dunno about the extra spot. I would love someone from an impoverished country or something to fill that spot: It would inspire so many kids to dream!!
@dvarblo If we act on development now and up funding (among other things like private launchers), I am confident that we will see bootprints in them crimson dunes by the year 2030! (or by the time you're 43) There should be a mature colony by mid-century with (hopefully) manned missions to Jupiter at the same time, asteroidal mining by the mid-2040s, and maybe even the first robotic probes to Alpha Centauri by century's end, with humans following soon after! Ad Astra per Aspera!!
@qvnsq101 It's thin, but yes there is an atmosphere. It's just under 1% as dense as Earth's, and is about 95% CO2 with some Argon, Oxygen and other trace gases. It's very unrealistic that the parachutes would support the MarsHab like that while landing. They'd only use them to slow down a VERY LITTLE BIT to save some fuel. To touch down they'd use their retros all the way.
your pretty much right though. A lil bit more velocity burn to launch TMI maneouvre. My point was that 99% of people on youtube think everything is going to happen in their and my lifetime. Theyre unaware of what weve done since the early 1970s and that bugs me alot. Like life support improvements like 99% recycling capabilities etc. My comment was based on long term colonizing in a few centuries. Fuel on the moon will be benefitial in the future. Right now its more fictional ideas
your pretty much right though. A lil bit more velocity burn to launch TMI maneouvre. My point was that 99% of people on youtube think everything is going to happen in their and my lifetime. Theyre unaware of what weve done since the early 1970s and that bugs me alot. Like life support improvements like 99% recycling capabilities etc. My comment was based on long term colonizing in a few centuries. Fuel on the moon will be benefitial in the future. Right now its more fictional ideas.
I think the first explorers to Mars need to be willing to stay there for decades or more... we would save a HUGE amount of R&D (not to mention lift weight) by not having to put a worthless return vehicle on there. Send multiple flight teams (5 teams of 5, 25 total explorers)... land them within a 100km radius of some central point, and just have them live there and wait for the cavalry down the road
I would like to say thank you to President Obama for smashing this dream into the ground. No more maned missions will be conducted using US spacecraft because of a NASA budget cut he signed. Instead he would like the barely capable of space flight, private companies to take care of that. Thank you for completely screwing 50 years of hard work and money.
colonizing mars isnt pointless. The reason why they call the moon essential for a mars trip is because of materials on the moon benefitial for rocket fuel. Just after a few centuries of rocket engineering scientist prove a chemical breaktrough. The machine itself is harder to make but will be done eventually. Secondly scientist efforts prove to take several more times of fuel and oxygen onboard then in the 1960s. Its a matter of decades before a 80billion dollar project becomes realistic.
@Bravo2zero0 i doubt that humans are to stupid to get to mars just coz we move planet our problems will remain. With us and Mars will falll victim to more wars.
Phobos might indeed be a bit easier to settle. Its terrain and environment are closer to the moon than that of Mars, so we can apply the lessons we learned during the Apollo program. And it would be nice to refuel using water mined from Phobos on our way back from Mars. But perhaps we can go to Mars and Phobos at the same time?
I know your post is one month old but I had to say something so here goes. If competition based on nationalism happens again then we will be going backwards, we should be unifying as a single race instead of several different nations it IS the ONLY way forward.
Do you have any evidence that competition would push us back? How would it do so anyway?
We humans are a competetive species. It is only through competitions that we have bettered ourselves (arms races, the X prize, the Apollo Program, athletics, etc.).
Wow, what a sweeping condemnation of competition. "Competition brings war." I seem to remember a period of time in which the USA competed against the USSR to land a man on the moon, and no nukes flew from that.
That had to be one of the most stunning cgi mars video that I have ever laid my eye's on..
Viz731 4 weeks ago
I envisage individual colonies on Mars- Chinese, Indian, Russian, American, European... and perhaps we'll see an American revolution scenario? Maybe Martian colonies will declare independence? Who knows.
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
what the FUCK, how can u use parachute? there is no air in mars u dumb fuck...
pelicaravansary 1 month ago
@pelicaravansary There is indeed an atmosphere on Mars. It is less than 1% of Earth's, but it is enough for parachutes.
MaverickSawyer 1 month ago
@pelicaravansary There are large dust storms on mars too! Covers the whole planet sometimes.
Ryat51 1 month ago
@davissairgil You're an idiot..
AirSOFTLOVER12 1 month ago
@aturayd Mars is gravity is about 40% of earth not 60. Still it would be enough to prevent muscle atrophy and bone degradation. Why would you want to spend 6-9 months cooped up in a space ship, if you could get there faster. Also if you live on Mars for several years, you would get to the point you could not handle earth gravity. Still who would want to come back to earth, why not live the greatest adventure.
unclefixer 1 month ago
@davissairgil In billions of years from now. You know, thousands of millions?
winterstellar 1 month ago
if every person on the planet whould donet 1 or 2 dollar/euro. than we whould have enouge to travel to mars
rubikfan1 1 month ago
@davissairgil damn pessimist
theawesomesausage 1 month ago
@davissairgil no it won't, the sun won't engulf the earth anytime soon.
TOTCD 1 month ago
@davissairgil lol the earth is dying 'soon' ?
What do you mean with 'soon' ?
TOTCD 2 months ago
@aturayd You are correct, being able to land and do useful work is the point of the trip. One thing to consider, if we have a base on Mars, it will be some time before its self sufficient, so regular resupply trips are essential. The colonist may not be able to wait 6 months for supplies and also zero g weakens the body, the less time you spend in it, the better. Do a search for NAUTILUS, it a space ship with a wheel for artificial gravity.
unclefixer 2 months ago
@unclefixer mars is not 0g. it is 0.6g or 60% earth gravity. that is sufficient to keep muscle degradation in check, especially if they are spending lots of time doing physical activity such as exploring the planet. Yes regular supply trips and changing people out will be essential probably for centuries, as even with a full fleged colony with thousands of people it will be beneficial for earth mars commerce.
Aturayd 1 month ago
I hope I live long enough to see this become a reality!
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An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG @ samzurick*dot*com contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers". THANKS!!
peopledick 2 months ago
Awesome! Go Zubrin!
grillergeorge 3 months ago
hope to become a mars resident, i'm still young for that.
cipihevent 3 months ago 17
@cipihevent i would be willing to be one of the first people on mars :) but im only 14 :(
zethist 1 month ago
@zethist Ha! Being so young probably means you'll have a good shot to be one of the first people!
BeachofDreams 1 month ago
The belief in God will stand the test of time, will humanity be so lucky? If there is indeed an almighty god he resides in each of us and we are responsible for the goals we set and the tasks we accomplish along the way on our path. If we have to deviate from that path and return at some later point let us remember that it is not god, not mythical beliefs or superstition that drives us ever forward but our eternal belief in the human spirit and if it seems magical so be it! Great video and music
Aerospaceman 3 months ago
The artificial gravity theory of spinning the spacecraft on a tether won't work in my opinion. Too many moving parts. It needs to be simplified before it will work.
ElGatoLoco698 5 months ago
Imagine if all countries of the world would give their 2% of state's annual budget each year to "colonize mars" project. We would be there in like 10-15 years
ixonixas 5 months ago 2
Imagine if all countries of the world would give their 2% of state's annual budget each year to "colonize mars" project. We would be there in like 10-15 years
ixonixas 5 months ago
can please someone tell me the name of this music ? thanks
quto01 5 months ago
@quto01 This good man is "Conquest of Paradise", the soundtrack of the movie Colombus for the colonisation of the New World. Written by GREEK composer and musical genius Vangelis Papathanasiou, this piece has become a symbol of exploration, voyages into the unknown and great undertakings. Long live the Greek soul!
dsljanus 4 months ago
I wan a live on the moon in the next 20 years you assholes.
omega4chimp 5 months ago
this is Zubrick's Mars direct
TheHotelMoxa 5 months ago
lol unfortunately humans are the most dysfunctional intelligent species to ever exist in the universe.
wing2912 5 months ago
@wing2912 Yeah we're, we're so clever but yet so dumb as we dont work together we are all mostly in it for personal gain.......shame we could go so far in less time
connorhobson1 4 months ago
Music?
MadLegit360 6 months ago
2 people are either too depressed to dream or too stupid to see it happening before their eyes.
Nitocolus 6 months ago
In 2024 i go to Mars!
freeharddrive 7 months ago
i think it's a bit too early to be thinking of mars. we need to start localy. we have a perfectly good moon and various lagrange points.
MrBubonicChronic 8 months ago
@MrBubonicChronic Why? Why is it too early? Its exactly that prevailing thought which is keeping humans from going to mars. We could have been to mars 20 years ago had we pursued it instead of the space shuttle.
Aturayd 2 months ago
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Villymayn 8 months ago
@Villymayn space exploration will more than likely result in many wars. not that i'm against space exploration, it's just inevitable
MrBubonicChronic 8 months ago
When man leave earth, to enter the red rock. I wish them luck. For there will be the start of the human seperation. After millions of years we will both be human. Even though the ones on the red rock will be something entirly else for our eyes. We can start spreading life to all the planets. Being the true God. Ironic as it may seem, Again created in the image of us.
Norwayflex89 8 months ago
what type of launcher is that
Topaz997235 8 months ago
@Topaz997235 That was the ares launcher proposed before the constellation program and the ares 5.
spacegeek5 6 months ago
@spacegeek5 Would love to see that launcher on 2020
Topaz997235 6 months ago
@Topaz997235 I would to but unfortunently they never really looked into the details of that design but have started looking at the SLS which would use shuttle parts and look almost the same as ares or ares 5. They want that one to fly by 2016
spacegeek5 6 months ago
1.) The music is epic and fits the video and 2.) the video is awesome. I love space. I am 30 and am back in college studying astrophysics!
midoribishi 9 months ago
1:53 NOOOO!! MY COUNTRY's FLAG IS NOT THERE!! DAMN....... D:
minerdalta 9 months ago
I believe very passionately in something. Not god, not any other supernatural being... I believe in mankind. We will colonize Mars and the moon, we will travel to new star systems, there are no limits to how far we can get!
SternMann93 10 months ago 67
@SternMann93 I couldn't have said this better!
TwistedMind6969 7 months ago
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BlackEpyon 6 months ago
@SternMann93 Now if oly Mankind would move past it's own selfishness and arrogance, we'd be set.
BlackEpyon 6 months ago
@SternMann93
And how much we can screw up. Look what happened to Earth!! I'm worry about other worlds and their inhabitants.
Tabbimura 6 months ago
@SternMann93 Mars: Colonize me!
Democracy: Later!
1Nekit1 4 months ago
@SternMann93
in 3d animation yes you can colonized whatever you want even the sun if you want too. God made everything each for their own purpose & usage. Misused anything & you'll faced each consequences. People wishing to colonize & inhabit mars is like a fish wishing to swim in air.
MrSaladin1985 2 months ago
@MrSaladin1985 Lol, get your religious babble off here. Your kind of people would see humanity stagnated and war-torn on this rock forever. So please, GTFO.
SternMann93 2 months ago
@MrSaladin1985 yeah its a good thing we havent invented airplanes or submarines.. oh wait.
Aturayd 2 months ago
@SternMann93 If we don't blow ourselfs up over trivial things such as oil first....
DMDS1991 1 month ago
@SternMann93 Indeed
cheatcode2111 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Michael Giacchino
@SternMann93 midwaysailor(dot)com(slash)military(slash)salute(dot)jpg to you sir
andre20041997 3 weeks ago
the music could not be put on a better video.
SgtAndrewM 11 months ago
I wish to look down on the earthlings from Mars and laugh as the earth explodes in nukes...i watch it all through high powered telescope.
sinceritus 11 months ago
the martians are like, aw fuck, this may be a problem....
jukio02 11 months ago
and thing is how does parchutes do that in NO air
Topaz997235 11 months ago
@Topaz997235 there's alittle bit of air there so there's also wind
but anyways yeah there can do that even if there's no air
TheCHUCKY1992 11 months ago
@Topaz997235 they have air, just not enough to breath
jukio02 11 months ago
@jukio02 and mars has no pressure
Topaz997235 10 months ago
@Topaz997235 yup, if you take your suit off, your blood will boil
jukio02 10 months ago
@Topaz997235 An atmosphere does exist on mars but the parachutes would have to be way bigger than ones used on earth maybes even 10 times bigger than what is used on earth.
NaturalGroundation 6 months ago
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Topaz997235 6 months ago
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Topaz997235 6 months ago
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@NaturalGroundation if mars does not have a atmosphere then we cant terraform SO MARS DOES HAVE A ATMOSPHERE
Topaz997235 6 months ago
It all starts with an idea.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge"
-Albert Einstein
behnamasid 1 year ago
mach 1.5, let alone a parachute whom is capable of more air lift then a plane is capable of.
Armigo91 1 year ago
@Armigo91 yea the parachutes should break
Topaz997235 1 year ago
that might seem strange since objects on earth fall up to 320kph in the density of the troposphere (troposphere is the layer of the atmosphere we live in, so between sea lvl and 8kilometres altitude (18kilometres actualy, but the denser dominant layer up to 8km)
and earths atmosphere is 100times thicker, But at 28kilometres altitude on earth the atmospheric pressure is similar to that of mars. yet there are planes that can fly at this altitude or nearly at this altitude just above
Armigo91 1 year ago
@ItalianoAmericano
parachute works, but yes because the atmosphere its so thing, you have to precisely aim along the horizon of the planet to efficiently slow it down, but it is possible. large enough parachutes can decrease a spacepod sized object just below mach 1 (280meter per second in mars atmosphere) (just a lil bit faster then a 747) from that velocity simple rockets can drop its speed to 35mph at which in vikings (mars rover) case it opened pillows to soft land.
Armigo91 1 year ago
1:53 :D
stefanhasausername 1 year ago
Parachutes are used to slow down the descent; final landing is done with thrusters.
Radiation is a hazard we can deal with - all you need to do is to properly shield the habitable section of the ship. Also, a new tech. is being developed that will use artificial magnetic fields to reduce the amount of charched particles reaching the ship. A mission to Mars is doable with present-day or near-future technology. All we need is money and a political leadership willing to commit itself to this goal.
Winner8501 1 year ago
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i still didnt see any humans yet
phantom1000A 1 year ago
next planet on the list to fuck up is mars lol
Unitor677 1 year ago
@Unitor677 then it will move onto the solar system, then when thats done, we move to another galaxy and fuck that up, then another dimension or an alternate universe and fuck it all up. on the way, we'll kill off the indegious aliens
jukio02 11 months ago
@jukio02 you are right its our destiny as humans ;p
Unitor677 11 months ago
@jukio02 You do understand that mars has about 1/100th the atmosphere density of earth? and most of it is CO2.
We can't really "F*#&" mars up any more than it already is. In fact, any greenhouse gasses would be the best thing we could do for the planet.
Humanity will reach Mars. Within this generation. And no one, not even people like you, will stop us.
God bless us all.
StickGuitarMan 8 months ago
@StickGuitarMan first of all what the hell are you talking about? i never said i wanted to stop anything, secondly of course mars is like 1/100th the atmosphere of earth, DUH! lol, everyone knows that, i meant like eventually we'll make it livable for humans, but thats is 100's of years from now, we'll be long and dead by then. and thirdly i was just fukn around about us fukning things up, your taking it too seriously
jukio02 8 months ago
To make this sale & cost effective the lander will need to be single staged & utilize thermal-nuclear rockets. This will keep it light enough to propel there & fuel can be 'breed' when needed. Chem propulsion associated with deep space travel is the physics equiv to racing a formula1 grand-prix vehicle fitted with the latest 'steam engine'. Granted that technology for steam engines today is a lot better than yester-year 'a steam engine is a steam engine & limited by it's very laws of physics!'
netsight 1 year ago
Nice music, but... I'd rather watch it with original audio commentary
VeryVeryMeanBastard 1 year ago
The key to space travel is to find a faster way to get there. The vasimir rocket can get us there in 39 days that makes it possible to make two or more trips a year instead of every two years. Second we need a interplanetary space fleet, ie ships that all they do is travel from earth to other planets. They carry men, landing craft and supplies to establish bases. We would need a cheap way to get into space and a way to make money off of it and not depend on fickle politicians anymore.
unclefixer 1 year ago 12
@unclefixer i agree there need to be larger ships that stay in space used for interplanetary space travel
marshalcraft 1 year ago
@marshalcraft
maybe u should understand how much it costs to put a 3by3foot capsule into orbit let alone to another planet. Let me enlighten you. about a billion dollars. Let alone a bigger spacecraft, what a uneducated comment,
dude, there wont be any larger spacecraft (apart from spacestations whom are assembled trough multiple launches) before we humans discover, develop and research new propulsion systems apart from rockets,
cause rockets are inneficient.
Armigo91 1 year ago
as long as there is no replacement, there will not be bigger ships. Unless you and i wanna waste our tax moneys, cause ofcourse its able to build larger ones, but its extremely financial inefficient. And so are wars, so if they would stop the iraqi war, then perhaps we might build bigger ships, but building larger ships on frequent production rates will not come before new propulsion types are researched, so dont expect any of that.
Armigo91 1 year ago
@unclefixer If i will ever get the sheer up to a mil, that's where its gonna go.
1Nekit1 4 months ago
@unclefixer actually, getting there any faster than 180 days isnt that helpful, as that is the necessary time frame for a free return trajectory. If we had propulsion of that variety or nuclear thermal rockets, we would use it to bring more to the martian surface instead of getting there faster.
Aturayd 2 months ago
Why would we want to go to Mars? Our sun will last for another 4 billion years and when it starts to run out of fuel, it will get bigger, Mars will become hot again and the sun will terraform Mars for us releasing hopefully large quantities of water just below the surface. Humans can then use this water to create oxygen and colonise Mars.
oomblikkies 1 year ago
Spirit/ Opportunity in 3:28- 3:38?
dunlrock 1 year ago
1 "wise guy" wouldn't have left Europe in 1492 and holds no hope for the future of humanity.
Eagle1Division2 1 year ago
@jplengineer07
I've read up on Mars Direct only a very small amount, but from what I've read, I doesn't look like it includes the VASIMR drives. I think those are vital for decreasing exposure to cosmic rays, and 39 days - artificial gravity may not even be needed.
Has the Mars Society made a sort of "updated" version of Mars Direct including VASIMR drives?
Sure Mars Direct is possible RIGHT NOW, but IMO, by the time we go to Mars, VASIMR will be ready. It'll be sooner than other tech, anyways
Eagle1Division2 1 year ago
War sounds bad, but you have to realize in Iraq we're stopping murderers who would otherwise kill many innocent people.
I believe money should be taken from social programs, not Iraq.
The ENTIRE Department of Defense (not just Iraq) only got 18% of 2010's congressional budget.
All our social programs took 59%.
Social programs, though with good intentions, are inefficient and prone to much porkage. Private sector would spend it better, so more people could be helped.
Btw, NASA got 00.5%
Eagle1Division2 1 year ago
I hate the fact that we have so much technology, ambition and intelligence, held back by an equal amount of budgetary stupidity and bureaucracy. It's been 40 fucking years since we landed on the Moon - by all rights we should have a Mars base by now!
Corinthian404 1 year ago 2
@Corinthian404 to right. Its all taking to bloodly long.
ScribeOfShadows 1 year ago
Awesome video thnx .
freeharddrive 1 year ago
Hey ... i was just wondering .. does anyone know the name of this music ?
MiiMoFt 1 year ago
@MiiMoFt conquest of paradis by Vangelis
baznian 1 year ago
Beautiful! Get it done NASA! Get it done!!! Watch his video and make it happen!
PETERBEANDOTCOM 1 year ago
One little question & potential problem: How do you land on Mars? I'm not sure they've figured out how to land heavy equipment on Mars.
The atmosphere requires a fairly quick deceleration to avoid over-heating on entry. You can't orbit basically down to the surface like you can on the moon. But it's too thin for parachutes to effectively slow the vehicle to an acceptable velocity for rockets to be effective for a large payload.
nesokretep 1 year ago
@nesokretep Landing the way as shown in this video has been done before (not sure but I think it was firstly done by the Viking lander). This video is in accordance with the suggestions made by The Mars Society. It is a thougt-through concept. and one of the cheapest ways of getting to mars.
tomplaytom 1 year ago
@tomplaytom -- Yes, some version of what they show in this video is probably the way to go. But landing with a Viking is significantly different from landing with humans or with support equipment for humans.
The problem is that mass increases as the cube of size while the surface area of a parachute only increases as the square of the size. So you cannot merely scale up a Viking paracute and have a go at it with humans.
You have a geometrically increasing problem for a larger package.
nesokretep 1 year ago
@nesokretep -- I understand your point about the increasing diffulty of landing with the help of parachutes when payloads get heavy. However, I don't think the chutes will have any difficulty of taking the weight of the lander on mars, so it is just a matter of being able to make them large enough. Hopefully that can be done. Otherwise another breaking method will certainly be found. I do share Corinthian404's frustration that it all takes longer than necessary.
tomplaytom 1 year ago
@tomplaytom -- Exactly right about the budget thing. We've spent how many trillions of dollars bailing out failed banks and how many more trillions on stupid wars?
For a fraction of that amount we could go back to the moon AND solve the whole Mars problem.
nesokretep 1 year ago
@nesokretep lets not forget they wasted about 2 trillion on the war against drugs as well. Could had a huge space station as a starting point for journey to out space for that kinda money.
ScribeOfShadows 1 year ago
3:32 There it is...
...the first solar cell powered garden light on the Mars.
Marci124 1 year ago
@Marci124 YES! 3:32 Triumph of science! I hope I live to see it... By the year 2025, we choose to put a solar powered garden light on mars- not because these things are easy, but because they are hard.
OftenRatherAmused 1 year ago
The soviet-esque choice of music is both moving and disturbing. Thanks for the enlightenment...
unholyimage 1 year ago
They need to add live video to those scout-rovers. When the crew arrives, they can position them in the best angle possible for the first steps!!!
Hypergalactica 1 year ago
it was nice to see the flags of russia, USA, germany, great britian, france, japan, canada and australia on the spacecraft, hopefully the nations of the world will work together to land on mars and maybe one day colinize it. It will be an acheivment of the worlds nations not just one and will unite humanity under one banner...
ryan3551 1 year ago
@ryan3551 A truly international mission may be hard to come by due to politics (we can't avoid one nation not leading the others), but yes I def think it should be an international project with lots of commercial businesses like SpaceX helping. There should be an international crew, say 1 American, 1 Canadian, 1 Russian, 1 European, 1 Asian, and I dunno about the extra spot. I would love someone from an impoverished country or something to fill that spot: It would inspire so many kids to dream!!
Hypergalactica 1 year ago
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ryan3551 1 year ago
nice
translate1938 1 year ago
Iam currently 23...do you think man will ever land on mars in my life time? by the way good video.
dvarblo 1 year ago
@dvarblo If we act on development now and up funding (among other things like private launchers), I am confident that we will see bootprints in them crimson dunes by the year 2030! (or by the time you're 43) There should be a mature colony by mid-century with (hopefully) manned missions to Jupiter at the same time, asteroidal mining by the mid-2040s, and maybe even the first robotic probes to Alpha Centauri by century's end, with humans following soon after! Ad Astra per Aspera!!
Hypergalactica 1 year ago
parachutes works ? i thought there is no atmosphere
qvnsq101 1 year ago
@qvnsq101 It's thin, but yes there is an atmosphere. It's just under 1% as dense as Earth's, and is about 95% CO2 with some Argon, Oxygen and other trace gases. It's very unrealistic that the parachutes would support the MarsHab like that while landing. They'd only use them to slow down a VERY LITTLE BIT to save some fuel. To touch down they'd use their retros all the way.
Hypergalactica 1 year ago
@Hypergalactica thanks fo da info :D
qvnsq101 1 year ago
why cant they sick a rocket to the iss and fly tht 2 mars ?
TotalWarLord 1 year ago
how about we built another international space station
but then orbiting mars? that would remove alot of distance problems, because there is an orbiting station nearby, and not 100-400 million km away
SatoTM3 1 year ago
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@rsagan
your pretty much right though. A lil bit more velocity burn to launch TMI maneouvre. My point was that 99% of people on youtube think everything is going to happen in their and my lifetime. Theyre unaware of what weve done since the early 1970s and that bugs me alot. Like life support improvements like 99% recycling capabilities etc. My comment was based on long term colonizing in a few centuries. Fuel on the moon will be benefitial in the future. Right now its more fictional ideas
Armigo91 1 year ago
@rsagan
your pretty much right though. A lil bit more velocity burn to launch TMI maneouvre. My point was that 99% of people on youtube think everything is going to happen in their and my lifetime. Theyre unaware of what weve done since the early 1970s and that bugs me alot. Like life support improvements like 99% recycling capabilities etc. My comment was based on long term colonizing in a few centuries. Fuel on the moon will be benefitial in the future. Right now its more fictional ideas.
Armigo91 1 year ago
@Armigo91 Iam currently 23...do you think man will ever land on mars in my life time?
dvarblo 1 year ago
I think the first explorers to Mars need to be willing to stay there for decades or more... we would save a HUGE amount of R&D (not to mention lift weight) by not having to put a worthless return vehicle on there. Send multiple flight teams (5 teams of 5, 25 total explorers)... land them within a 100km radius of some central point, and just have them live there and wait for the cavalry down the road
Craigipedia 1 year ago
Nice, you've used Star trek XI music in the end ;)
Sylphoe 1 year ago
Sarebbe una vera figata :-)
TexZK 1 year ago
colonization of venus isnt all 2 far fetched either. about 100 years of wait and well be able to adjust the atmospheric conditions.
BlackLegion104 1 year ago
I would like to say thank you to President Obama for smashing this dream into the ground. No more maned missions will be conducted using US spacecraft because of a NASA budget cut he signed. Instead he would like the barely capable of space flight, private companies to take care of that. Thank you for completely screwing 50 years of hard work and money.
MrC0MPUT3R 1 year ago
artificial gravity... very interesting
dunlrock 1 year ago 15
@dunlrock doesnt the planet have its own gravity?
a4o31 1 year ago
colonizing mars isnt pointless. The reason why they call the moon essential for a mars trip is because of materials on the moon benefitial for rocket fuel. Just after a few centuries of rocket engineering scientist prove a chemical breaktrough. The machine itself is harder to make but will be done eventually. Secondly scientist efforts prove to take several more times of fuel and oxygen onboard then in the 1960s. Its a matter of decades before a 80billion dollar project becomes realistic.
Armigo91 1 year ago
I fail to see how anyone can object to the colonisation of other worlds.
The main reason I think people want to do this is so that we always have a "back up" planet incase of some disaster.
Bravo2zero0 1 year ago
@Bravo2zero0 it wont be done its pointless
GeneralRdot09 1 year ago
@GeneralRdot09 Your great grandkids might think differently when this planet is dead..
Bravo2zero0 1 year ago
@Bravo2zero0 i doubt that humans are to stupid to get to mars just coz we move planet our problems will remain. With us and Mars will falll victim to more wars.
GeneralRdot09 1 year ago
@GeneralRdot09 Well i'd like to think we would of moved on abit socially.
Bravo2zero0 1 year ago
wait a moment....about the music....the music that I heard is made by Vangelis...of the soundtrack 1492 .......
mams2006 2 years ago
I say we go to Phobos first,get a firm establishment there,then go to mars.
infoseeker228 2 years ago
Phobos might indeed be a bit easier to settle. Its terrain and environment are closer to the moon than that of Mars, so we can apply the lessons we learned during the Apollo program. And it would be nice to refuel using water mined from Phobos on our way back from Mars. But perhaps we can go to Mars and Phobos at the same time?
smart12222 2 years ago
brings tears to my eyes... :-)
imarchello 2 years ago
Wow ! Amazing !!
Manicup 2 years ago
Very nicely done.
Excellent video.
As one people we need to take this step to establish viable colonies on Mars and the Moon.
MewFushisDad 2 years ago 28
@MewFushisDad
Why as one? Competition based on Nationalism worked out pretty well during the Apollo program.
smart12222 2 years ago
I know your post is one month old but I had to say something so here goes. If competition based on nationalism happens again then we will be going backwards, we should be unifying as a single race instead of several different nations it IS the ONLY way forward.
LordSensidon01 2 years ago
Do you have any evidence that competition would push us back? How would it do so anyway?
We humans are a competetive species. It is only through competitions that we have bettered ourselves (arms races, the X prize, the Apollo Program, athletics, etc.).
smart12222 2 years ago
Competition brings war,which wastes time,money,and lives
infoseeker228 2 years ago
Wow, what a sweeping condemnation of competition. "Competition brings war." I seem to remember a period of time in which the USA competed against the USSR to land a man on the moon, and no nukes flew from that.
smart12222 2 years ago
@MewFushisDad it will never be done
GeneralRdot09 1 year ago
@MewFushisDad AGREE!!!
cycc1111 1 year ago
@MewFushisDad
jamie190595 1 year ago
@MewFushisDad For what?
alexthekiller25 11 months ago
@alexthekiller25 To get off this planet. Hopefully we will move on into the universe before we have completely ravaged the Earth.
MewFushisDad 11 months ago
@MewFushisDad I heard we need to go to the moon and mars to farm them......
alexthekiller25 11 months ago