disagree barelylegal23...royce gracie proved that striking wasnt the most deadly attribute to have at one time although most fights seem to end that way at this day and age of MMA
i truthfully dont c how machida was robbed. i had the fight 29-28 rampage, i dont c any reason to have given him 2 of the rounds. but i guess its all how you intemperate it.
Machida with a little more will to take risks and a little more killer instinct will be a devastating force. He just has to take a little more risks, be a little more aggressive and he will be on top again. Except Shogun no one has knocked him out or even clearly beaten him.
A re-match with Shogun would be amazing as a next fight. Then the winner of that gets the looser of Jackson-Jones (or the looser of Jones-Rashad or Jackson-Rashad).
@BlackLabelForLife i thhought rampage lost the fight he attacked with a couple foot stomps and to uppercuts and machida as usual, counters, works his legs, gives him knees and rocks his ass at the end...
@avreeves Shogun still had the belt at that time so I doubt they were setting up Jones vs Rampage back then. Jones won the belt alot quicker then most people anticipated. Me personally I think Machida "won" the fight. But Rampage was the aggressor and controlled the octagon the whole fight (especially rds 1 and 2) which is why I think they gave him the Dec. Machida won the striking exchanges but when you move backwards 90% of the time its hard to get the judges on your side...
@BarelyLegal23 I respect your opinion but the #1 element in fighting is obviously striking. I honestly think that the aggression part of the fighting aspect is a little overrated. For example Martin Kampmann vs Diego Sanchez. Sure Diego was the aggressor but what good does that do u when your getting tagged up a million times. Same with Machida n Rampage i don't care if your striking moving upwards downwards side to side or front n back if ur outstriking ur opponent then u win
@Bones87ish I mentioned the aggression part because thats just how UFC judges judge the fights based upon effective striking, aggression and octagon control (I think those 3). Personally I don't like it because aggression and octagon control are somewhat similar. But I was pretty much using the UFC Judges perspective explaining why Rampage won Rounds 1 and 2 in their minds. Thanks or the respect in the reply, much appreciated. BTW i had Kampann over Sanchez 29-28 on my own scorecard
If anybody won the Rampage-Machida fight, it was Rampage. Everybody says that. I personally had the fight a draw, the first round was 10-10, second to Rampage, third to Machida. But Lyoto didn't do enough in the first round, even though it was clsoe, and that's why he lost.
@fa830 Bad judging but the Dana thing is bollocks he has almost no influence at the judges. Don't leave it to the judges.. Especially when Cecil Peoples is sitting there.
@C2B0R4 I thought rampage won rd 1 n 2, more aggressive and push the action, check some of the leg kicks and caught machida with several shots and well he had machida hurt in the 2nd...Machida def won the 3rd...I think it was the right decision...Machida would still give ay of top lhws fits besides shogun and maybe rampage..I wanna see jon jones vs machida, but I'll settle for bones vs rampage first though...
both of these fighters were very respectful to one another. in my opinion rampage did more the first two rounds than lyoto. but then again what do i know about judging mma fights?
rampage won fair n square because he pushed the pace you don't get points for dancing around worrying about your fancy little counter punches which is what gayoto was doing you get points for pushing the pace being the aggresive fighter which is what rampage was if machida wanna get decesions then he should do more then just run away and dance around the only people who thought machida won are just machida dick riders just like only machida dick riders think he won his first bout with shogun
I am a fan of both these fighters. Machida is the probably the most fundamentally sound fighter in ufc. That is an area Rampage Jackson could improve and make him a much better fighter. However the one weakness i see in Machida's is he lacks natural strength. He couldn't control Rampage at all.
@specialforces69 1. Take down defense and wrestling are two totally different venues.
2. When Machida is on his back he seems like he just can't figure out what to do when faced with someone who is an elite wrestler. I never indicated that he "sucks" at wrestling.... I would compare his wrestlin game to that of a prime Chuck Liddell. If it came down to him winning it all based on his wrestling, then he may just be settling for second or third place.
Rampage said Machida won and changed his statement only because Dana was standing right behind him at post fight press conference and Dana was pissed. Rampage was in the octagon with Machida- not the judges, not Dana, and none of the fans. Rampage said exactly what he felt-"Machida whooped my ass"!! He was surprised when he won just like many other people. It was a legitimate outcry from those who disagree with the call. Rampage doesn't consider "ring control" a way to win. Not his style.
what i dont understand is... why did the judges decide that the 1st round was machida, 2nd was rampage and 3rd was rampage..?... Machida won the 3rd round clearly.. according to me, jackson did win the match,... BUT by the 1st two rounds and not the 2nd and third..
Machida was great in the last round, and he was sure he wouldn't win the match on decision, so he was constantly looking for a submission or a ko in the final minutes. But Rampage was the winner.. no controversies here imo.
okay, everyone who keeps bringing up the fact that rampage said machida won needs to stop. rampage cleared himself of that statement in the post fight interview. rampage was constantly the aggressor and landed more shots that machida. he won rounds 1 and 2. machida won the third round because of the ONE combination he threw the WHOLE FIGHT.
@xKillerWandx actually lyoto landed more than twice as many strikes as rampage. look it up. and it wasnt just one combination he threw. it was a combination that ROCKED HIM and then machida took him down and controlled him and attempted several submissions. and that "octagon control" is bullshit. lyoto reversed it every time rampage got him up against the cage. i personally think lyoto won rounds 1 and 3. and rampage won round 2 because he land a couple strikes and thats all
@xKillerWandx no im not a "machida nuthugger" at all. he is one of my favorite fighters but in no way am i a "nuthugger" i just said that lyoto was a more effective striker and grappler. its your opinion that he had round 3. i think he had 1 and 3. and possibly even round 2. the ufc judges suck dick. shogun got robbed in his first fight with machida. and machida got robbed against rampage. look up the stats for the fight. machida won every aspect of the fight
@foofightersmachida of course the judges suck. they are completely retarded and many fighters have been cheated out of a win. but i do not believe machida was one of them. in fact, only machida fans think machida won. just like only machida fans thought machida won the first shogun fight.
@xKillerWandx hey i hear what you are sayin. you are entitled to your opinion. but i am going to have to disagree with you on the shogun comment. because i am a huge machida fan but i strongly believe that shogun won their first fight. an of course i am going to be bias for machida because he is one of my favories. but excluding the fact that i like machida, i would have still given the split decision to lyoto. but i respect your opinion and im not going to argue with your opinion
Even's was in the octagon with Machida for 5 rounds and got knocked out.Rampage was only in the octagon with Machida for only 3 rounds and won.Isn't that something?Even though i think Rampage would kick Machidas ass the on going rounds.
@danieltambunan cause you're not a fanboy.. he lost fair and square. rampage was constantly being the aggressive one and pushing machida back. get over it it was a good fight rampage deserved to win.
I saw that fight, it was pretty epic because when you had the feeling that Machida was in control, Rampage exploded out of nowhere with punches from thin air. It was a cool fight.
@Trumpetz811 Your an idiot. It is exposed but its not that he cant wrestle. God I hate "fans" like you who think they know what they are talking about.
@HelloBro111 I see that you didn't mention what you thought it was (seeing how you think you know)
Do you kow that there are Navy Seals who can't swim.. that doesn't mean that they swim like a rock, itt means, they can't swim compared to elite Navy Seals.
do you know that Machida can't wrestle.. that doesn't mean that he can't wrestle.. it means he can't wrestle.
and to think... you called ME and idiot.
look in the mirror... see that guy looking back at you.... moon him for me.
@Trumpetz811 All navy seals are required to know how to swim and swim well compared to the average infantry men :D You third statement contradicts itself.
@wiggalama you missed my point..... I compared navy seals to navy seals.... not navy seals to just anybody..
therefore (like I said) there are Navy Seal who can't swim... when compared to the elite navy seal swimmers.....
it's like nba basketball... the guy on the end of the bench who never plays one minute in any game can't hoop compared to the team superstar, even though he's in the NBA which means he's better than most college BBallers
@Trumpetz811 Number of problems here. Its not that Machida can not wrestle, its that he does not do it as much as say Rua or Rampage because its cowardly taking advantage of the MMA rules. Further, he over all out grappled Rampage as seen in the fight, and with far superior grappling than just instinctive grappling known as wrestling.
@wiggalama personally I would say wrestling and grappling are about the same thing... grabbing somebody and taking them to the ground... (note* I didn't say "exactly the same thing)
"cowardly taking advantage of the MMA rules..." dude come on....
"instinctive grappling".... are you serious.... the more time you spend in practice putting your opponent in a certain hold the more "instinctive" it becomes... you set them up in a certain position or they end up in a certain postion and "bam"
@Trumpetz811 Fine, by your definition Karate, TKD, Mauy Thai, Silat, all forms of striking Kung Fu, Capoeira, Savate, Lethwei, Bokator, etc... are just boxing and about the same thing :P
MMA is suposed to be about mimicking a street fight to the point that you gain from it, not relie on sport rules to save your ass. You are born with knowledge of boxing and wrestling; it is gross motor skill. When you train a tech to become almost instinct, that is fine motor skill and an art.
@Trumpetz811 Are you stupid? Lyoto won his first MMA match using nothing but wrestling because he didn't know if his karate could work under the sport rules. His father said "Believe in your art..." as Lyoto has been quoted as saying and poof, Lyoto kicks ass :D
@wiggalama get real.... I hope you don't think that Lyoto fought a top notch opponent in his first MMA fight... reread ,y comment.... I didn't say he couldn't wrestle... i said he couldn't wrestle (make sure you read the part about the Navy Seal who can't swim) SMH
@Trumpetz811 Kengo Watanabe, and Lyoto's overall grappling that goes far beyond wrestling(judo, sumo, and even BJJ for the purpose of sport) augments him. Wresling is not a martial art, but instinct. Remember, he turned the grappling around on Rampage 3 times and presse Rampage against the fence. He was only briefly taken down and took Rampage down hard. I have Lyoto winning at least round 1 and round 3 based on damage and overall position and neutralizing Rampage while dealing good damage. :D
@Trumpetz811 Dude, Randy Couture(who should know about using dirty boxing), Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, and one of the judges all gave Lyoto the fight :D Lyoto to me won the 1st and especially the 3rd round at least. Even Rampage's grappling was turned on him, its just that due to the nature of avoiding strikes it sometimes looks like they landed, but Rampage only landed 1 upper cut kinda clean and one knee partially.
@wiggalama I know huh?... just like Oscar De La Hoya beat Felix Trinidad...
no matter what the crowd sees in the ring, or what the commentators see, or whose an expert here or there, if you look in the win/loss column of that fight you'll see whats gonna go down in the UFC history books... no matter how contoversial
I think they shoulda gave it to Rampage anyway just because Machida is way way better (and I'm a Rampage fan).... just the fact that he went the distance should be a win
that's why a great fighter knows not to leave it up to the judges....
the UFC needs a "Mortal Combat Mode".... you know... "FINISH HIM".. a fight should only be won by a submission or a knock out not a decision....(although that could make for some boring fights once boh fighters got exhausted)....
@Trumpetz811Virtually every great fighter has got stuck with a few judges decisions.Its not that they aren't trying to avoid that, its that their opponents are so close to their conditioning and skill that its often unavoidable.Fighting,like all things including logic, is about gambling;probability.The human bodies natural toughness and mobility exceed both its ability to strike and grapple while augmenting both, especially when combined.Therefore, it makes sense that plenty of fights last long.
@Trumpetz811 well if there was never any time or judges then some fights could end by submission,knockout.or exhaustion.But still your right it would be better without them stupid judges.
@N0SREB sry guys this message is actually to nosreb i dont know why it went to kanarvin. "I am a Lyoto Machida fan myself but u cannot make assumprtions like that. Certain styles work against another style. Its like rock paper scissors in a way but in a wider range not just 3 cards (cards were rock paper scissors i think u know what i mean). I missed the show but I red that Rampage won by UD"
@kanarvin I am a Lyoto Machida fan myself but u cannot make assumprtions like that. Certain styles work against another style. Its like rock paper scissors in a way but in a wider range not just 3 cards (cards were rock paper scissors i think u know what i mean). I missed the show but I red that Rampage won by UD
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Machida won this fight so true machida humillate rampa,g in this fight so funny.
wdboy55 3 days ago
1:25 is amazing affects :)
BenzE190 2 weeks ago
where can i watch this actual fight ?
zeitguy311 2 weeks ago
disagree barelylegal23...royce gracie proved that striking wasnt the most deadly attribute to have at one time although most fights seem to end that way at this day and age of MMA
schafer1986 2 months ago
With the chain on his neck his like junk yard dog!! haha
TRanceifyable 2 months ago
esse macaco do caralho filha da puta preto sem vergonha
matheuslemos89 3 months ago
Tactician's > Headhunters
optimisticcosmic 3 months ago
i truthfully dont c how machida was robbed. i had the fight 29-28 rampage, i dont c any reason to have given him 2 of the rounds. but i guess its all how you intemperate it.
jamesteley1995 3 months ago
machida won
4realRecon 3 months ago 2
machida got rob big time..look how suprise rampage was..
vxiong1000 3 months ago 2
rampage won he didnt run like machida all 3 rounds:)
slikdiez1 4 months ago
rampage won no question, 2 rounds to 1
blazinfatt84 4 months ago
@blazinfatt84 no machida won but he let him win after wards cuz in the end he was like WHAT I WON!
TheAddictiveVideos 4 months ago
Rampage beat Machida no doubt about it.
KevinDFuller94 4 months ago
machida won that...
manz92 5 months ago 6
Machida with a little more will to take risks and a little more killer instinct will be a devastating force. He just has to take a little more risks, be a little more aggressive and he will be on top again. Except Shogun no one has knocked him out or even clearly beaten him.
A re-match with Shogun would be amazing as a next fight. Then the winner of that gets the looser of Jackson-Jones (or the looser of Jones-Rashad or Jackson-Rashad).
Altairograph 5 months ago
No excuses. Machida really got beat up in this fight.
PepeTonio69 6 months ago
He looks like KAKA!
UNRPACK 6 months ago 28
VER AI (LORRAN HARD NO YOUTUBE) O GAROTO E MUITO BOM NO JIU JITSU ENCANTA AS LUTAS
maxzzz1000 6 months ago
All the people noes that Machida win that fight ,fucking judges.
pedrojavierish 7 months ago
@pedrojavierish i thhought rampage won the fight he attacked every time they broke from each other lyoto just ran as usual
BlackLabelForLife 7 months ago
@BlackLabelForLife i thhought rampage lost the fight he attacked with a couple foot stomps and to uppercuts and machida as usual, counters, works his legs, gives him knees and rocks his ass at the end...
celticjordan1 7 months ago
@pedrojavierish no rampage won buddy
L60Videos 6 months ago
@L60Videos by card but WE all kno differently
avreeves 6 months ago
@avreeves no rampage won the first 2 rounds. i watched the fight too and lyoto got beat
L60Videos 6 months ago
@avreeves come on dude, rampage got his ass kiked, he even had to admit it, they jus tryna set up the john jones fight
avreeves 6 months ago
@avreeves Shogun still had the belt at that time so I doubt they were setting up Jones vs Rampage back then. Jones won the belt alot quicker then most people anticipated. Me personally I think Machida "won" the fight. But Rampage was the aggressor and controlled the octagon the whole fight (especially rds 1 and 2) which is why I think they gave him the Dec. Machida won the striking exchanges but when you move backwards 90% of the time its hard to get the judges on your side...
BarelyLegal23 5 months ago
@BarelyLegal23 I respect your opinion but the #1 element in fighting is obviously striking. I honestly think that the aggression part of the fighting aspect is a little overrated. For example Martin Kampmann vs Diego Sanchez. Sure Diego was the aggressor but what good does that do u when your getting tagged up a million times. Same with Machida n Rampage i don't care if your striking moving upwards downwards side to side or front n back if ur outstriking ur opponent then u win
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish I mentioned the aggression part because thats just how UFC judges judge the fights based upon effective striking, aggression and octagon control (I think those 3). Personally I don't like it because aggression and octagon control are somewhat similar. But I was pretty much using the UFC Judges perspective explaining why Rampage won Rounds 1 and 2 in their minds. Thanks or the respect in the reply, much appreciated. BTW i had Kampann over Sanchez 29-28 on my own scorecard
BarelyLegal23 2 months ago
@avreeves i do have to agree, its hard to give the fight to the guy backing up.
avreeves 5 months ago
come cazzo si chiama sta canzone ??
ponciarello79 8 months ago
FIRST SONG PLEASE ?
ponciarello79 8 months ago
It´s a joke!!!
MAchida win this fight
TheBensa 8 months ago
@TheBensa your english is a joke as well.
Legionarivss 8 months ago
If anybody won the Rampage-Machida fight, it was Rampage. Everybody says that. I personally had the fight a draw, the first round was 10-10, second to Rampage, third to Machida. But Lyoto didn't do enough in the first round, even though it was clsoe, and that's why he lost.
PureBoxerP4P 8 months ago
LOL Rampage was scared to vs Machida...What are you guys on about?...Machida also won that fight :L
ItzMvaL 8 months ago
That was a clear message from Dana to Lyoto.
"you need to be more aggressive otherwise you lose",
In various moments he could have pushed a little more. but still a unfair decision.
So the judges give Rampage A for effort ...
fa830 8 months ago
@fa830 Bad judging but the Dana thing is bollocks he has almost no influence at the judges. Don't leave it to the judges.. Especially when Cecil Peoples is sitting there.
Legionarivss 8 months ago
@Legionarivss
Dana has zero influence at the judges.
MrAlala911 8 months ago
rampage is better
GabrielMafiazicca 8 months ago
machida won wtf r u guys smoking
cc4life032003 8 months ago
Machida won that fight
renanvnovais 9 months ago
this is like tekken... kind if kung fu vs the bronx streetfighting black guy^^
1sthorseman 9 months ago
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Machida win 1st,3th e lost 2snd
won that fight
lupamont 10 months ago
@lupamont
So true I personally think that Loyoto Machida won that fight.
C2B0R4 9 months ago
@C2B0R4 I thought rampage won rd 1 n 2, more aggressive and push the action, check some of the leg kicks and caught machida with several shots and well he had machida hurt in the 2nd...Machida def won the 3rd...I think it was the right decision...Machida would still give ay of top lhws fits besides shogun and maybe rampage..I wanna see jon jones vs machida, but I'll settle for bones vs rampage first though...
mjrose07 9 months ago
both of these fighters were very respectful to one another. in my opinion rampage did more the first two rounds than lyoto. but then again what do i know about judging mma fights?
dunno414 10 months ago
Machida won that fight.
420gz 10 months ago
e muito chato ver grandes lutadores brasileiros ser roubado pelos juises
blekarcanjo1 11 months ago
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Mihaitzarazvan 11 months ago
@Mihaitzarazvan Loh, zamolkni. Pazor ti jivoi.
nickigna 9 months ago
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Mihaitzarazvan 11 months ago
@Mihaitzarazvan lol im sure you just can fuck the granmas
Terminachaos 11 months ago
Shogun Rua it's a bitch
Mihaitzarazvan 11 months ago
@Mihaitzarazvan
your moms a bitch
NightManiacsInc 11 months ago
@Mihaitzarazvan Cool grammar, retard.
silantbill 11 months ago
rashad is a bitch
BlackOpsSnipa 11 months ago
U fucking stupid ass cunt
Fastas4Bulletsin1 11 months ago
rampage won fair n square because he pushed the pace you don't get points for dancing around worrying about your fancy little counter punches which is what gayoto was doing you get points for pushing the pace being the aggresive fighter which is what rampage was if machida wanna get decesions then he should do more then just run away and dance around the only people who thought machida won are just machida dick riders just like only machida dick riders think he won his first bout with shogun
trainwreck604 1 year ago
@trainwreck604 punching air and almost getting ktfo means you won in a fight?
IllusiveMetal117 11 months ago
@IllusiveMetal117 you mean just like how gayoto got ktfo rampage only got rocked once compared to how many times gayoto got rocked
trainwreck604 11 months ago
too late to care who won or lost, went to the judges they both lost !
just wana say kick ass video ! you should work with the ufc !
princeOthievz 1 year ago
Machida won this fight, even Rampage got shocked when he was announced as the winner
23bilog23 1 year ago 43
@23bilog23 yup , that's the best way to put it
TheMrpalid 1 year ago
what title is this pls reply thanks gobless
blitzz06 1 year ago
I am a fan of both these fighters. Machida is the probably the most fundamentally sound fighter in ufc. That is an area Rampage Jackson could improve and make him a much better fighter. However the one weakness i see in Machida's is he lacks natural strength. He couldn't control Rampage at all.
jlporter12 1 year ago
@jlporter12 true!
youniced 1 year ago
@specialforces69 1. Take down defense and wrestling are two totally different venues.
2. When Machida is on his back he seems like he just can't figure out what to do when faced with someone who is an elite wrestler. I never indicated that he "sucks" at wrestling.... I would compare his wrestlin game to that of a prime Chuck Liddell. If it came down to him winning it all based on his wrestling, then he may just be settling for second or third place.
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
Rampage said Machida won and changed his statement only because Dana was standing right behind him at post fight press conference and Dana was pissed. Rampage was in the octagon with Machida- not the judges, not Dana, and none of the fans. Rampage said exactly what he felt-"Machida whooped my ass"!! He was surprised when he won just like many other people. It was a legitimate outcry from those who disagree with the call. Rampage doesn't consider "ring control" a way to win. Not his style.
FrankenSensei 1 year ago
what i dont understand is... why did the judges decide that the 1st round was machida, 2nd was rampage and 3rd was rampage..?... Machida won the 3rd round clearly.. according to me, jackson did win the match,... BUT by the 1st two rounds and not the 2nd and third..
Machida was great in the last round, and he was sure he wouldn't win the match on decision, so he was constantly looking for a submission or a ko in the final minutes. But Rampage was the winner.. no controversies here imo.
zainzombie 1 year ago
okay, everyone who keeps bringing up the fact that rampage said machida won needs to stop. rampage cleared himself of that statement in the post fight interview. rampage was constantly the aggressor and landed more shots that machida. he won rounds 1 and 2. machida won the third round because of the ONE combination he threw the WHOLE FIGHT.
xKillerWandx 1 year ago
@xKillerWandx actually lyoto landed more than twice as many strikes as rampage. look it up. and it wasnt just one combination he threw. it was a combination that ROCKED HIM and then machida took him down and controlled him and attempted several submissions. and that "octagon control" is bullshit. lyoto reversed it every time rampage got him up against the cage. i personally think lyoto won rounds 1 and 3. and rampage won round 2 because he land a couple strikes and thats all
foofightersmachida 1 year ago
@foofightersmachida im guessing u are a machida nuthugger? because lyoto only had round 3.
xKillerWandx 1 year ago
@xKillerWandx no im not a "machida nuthugger" at all. he is one of my favorite fighters but in no way am i a "nuthugger" i just said that lyoto was a more effective striker and grappler. its your opinion that he had round 3. i think he had 1 and 3. and possibly even round 2. the ufc judges suck dick. shogun got robbed in his first fight with machida. and machida got robbed against rampage. look up the stats for the fight. machida won every aspect of the fight
foofightersmachida 1 year ago
@foofightersmachida of course the judges suck. they are completely retarded and many fighters have been cheated out of a win. but i do not believe machida was one of them. in fact, only machida fans think machida won. just like only machida fans thought machida won the first shogun fight.
xKillerWandx 1 year ago
@xKillerWandx hey i hear what you are sayin. you are entitled to your opinion. but i am going to have to disagree with you on the shogun comment. because i am a huge machida fan but i strongly believe that shogun won their first fight. an of course i am going to be bias for machida because he is one of my favories. but excluding the fact that i like machida, i would have still given the split decision to lyoto. but i respect your opinion and im not going to argue with your opinion
foofightersmachida 1 year ago
@xKillerWandx
lyoto won rounds 1 and 3. Even the if u say rampage won rounds 1 and 2, they were pretty much draw rounds. Worst case senerio shud hav been a draw
ThePintoAce 1 year ago
machida got sold out by dana what a fucking joke
downie167 1 year ago
Even's was in the octagon with Machida for 5 rounds and got knocked out.Rampage was only in the octagon with Machida for only 3 rounds and won.Isn't that something?Even though i think Rampage would kick Machidas ass the on going rounds.
juanharryhenry 1 year ago
LYOTO SHOULD WIN THIS FIGHT, EVEN QUINTON KNOW THIS!!! STUPID JUDGES!!! STUPID DANA!!!!
danieltambunan 1 year ago
@danieltambunan cause you're not a fanboy.. he lost fair and square. rampage was constantly being the aggressive one and pushing machida back. get over it it was a good fight rampage deserved to win.
woody4114 1 year ago
@danieltambunan He lost tho lmao
safersephiroth50 1 year ago
shit ...I like this video
CAMPI0NULfiarelor 1 year ago
I saw that fight, it was pretty epic because when you had the feeling that Machida was in control, Rampage exploded out of nowhere with punches from thin air. It was a cool fight.
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
Whats the song called in the video ? btw its a great video !
jlippy1992 1 year ago
Machida's game has been exposed.... he can't wrestle
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Your an idiot. It is exposed but its not that he cant wrestle. God I hate "fans" like you who think they know what they are talking about.
HelloBro111 1 year ago
@HelloBro111 I see that you didn't mention what you thought it was (seeing how you think you know)
Do you kow that there are Navy Seals who can't swim.. that doesn't mean that they swim like a rock, itt means, they can't swim compared to elite Navy Seals.
do you know that Machida can't wrestle.. that doesn't mean that he can't wrestle.. it means he can't wrestle.
and to think... you called ME and idiot.
look in the mirror... see that guy looking back at you.... moon him for me.
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 All navy seals are required to know how to swim and swim well compared to the average infantry men :D You third statement contradicts itself.
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama you missed my point..... I compared navy seals to navy seals.... not navy seals to just anybody..
therefore (like I said) there are Navy Seal who can't swim... when compared to the elite navy seal swimmers.....
it's like nba basketball... the guy on the end of the bench who never plays one minute in any game can't hoop compared to the team superstar, even though he's in the NBA which means he's better than most college BBallers
Machida can't wrestle compared to....
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Number of problems here. Its not that Machida can not wrestle, its that he does not do it as much as say Rua or Rampage because its cowardly taking advantage of the MMA rules. Further, he over all out grappled Rampage as seen in the fight, and with far superior grappling than just instinctive grappling known as wrestling.
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama personally I would say wrestling and grappling are about the same thing... grabbing somebody and taking them to the ground... (note* I didn't say "exactly the same thing)
"cowardly taking advantage of the MMA rules..." dude come on....
"instinctive grappling".... are you serious.... the more time you spend in practice putting your opponent in a certain hold the more "instinctive" it becomes... you set them up in a certain position or they end up in a certain postion and "bam"
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Fine, by your definition Karate, TKD, Mauy Thai, Silat, all forms of striking Kung Fu, Capoeira, Savate, Lethwei, Bokator, etc... are just boxing and about the same thing :P
MMA is suposed to be about mimicking a street fight to the point that you gain from it, not relie on sport rules to save your ass. You are born with knowledge of boxing and wrestling; it is gross motor skill. When you train a tech to become almost instinct, that is fine motor skill and an art.
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama I've decided to let you make it
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Make what???
wiggalama 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Are you stupid? Lyoto won his first MMA match using nothing but wrestling because he didn't know if his karate could work under the sport rules. His father said "Believe in your art..." as Lyoto has been quoted as saying and poof, Lyoto kicks ass :D
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama get real.... I hope you don't think that Lyoto fought a top notch opponent in his first MMA fight... reread ,y comment.... I didn't say he couldn't wrestle... i said he couldn't wrestle (make sure you read the part about the Navy Seal who can't swim) SMH
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Kengo Watanabe, and Lyoto's overall grappling that goes far beyond wrestling(judo, sumo, and even BJJ for the purpose of sport) augments him. Wresling is not a martial art, but instinct. Remember, he turned the grappling around on Rampage 3 times and presse Rampage against the fence. He was only briefly taken down and took Rampage down hard. I have Lyoto winning at least round 1 and round 3 based on damage and overall position and neutralizing Rampage while dealing good damage. :D
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama well you need to tell the judges that they made a mistake because they saw Rampage win more rounds than they saw Machida win..
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Dude, Randy Couture(who should know about using dirty boxing), Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, and one of the judges all gave Lyoto the fight :D Lyoto to me won the 1st and especially the 3rd round at least. Even Rampage's grappling was turned on him, its just that due to the nature of avoiding strikes it sometimes looks like they landed, but Rampage only landed 1 upper cut kinda clean and one knee partially.
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama I know huh?... just like Oscar De La Hoya beat Felix Trinidad...
no matter what the crowd sees in the ring, or what the commentators see, or whose an expert here or there, if you look in the win/loss column of that fight you'll see whats gonna go down in the UFC history books... no matter how contoversial
I think they shoulda gave it to Rampage anyway just because Machida is way way better (and I'm a Rampage fan).... just the fact that he went the distance should be a win
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 Boxing is too limited, who cares about people who only focus on a small part of fighting, and even then an instinctive part?
History books after a while always tell both stories when you read mroe than :D
Rampage deserved to stay in the UFC, but to get a bs split decision, it was worse than Vera losing to Couture or Franklin losing to Henderson :(
wiggalama 1 year ago
@wiggalama good points....
that's why a great fighter knows not to leave it up to the judges....
the UFC needs a "Mortal Combat Mode".... you know... "FINISH HIM".. a fight should only be won by a submission or a knock out not a decision....(although that could make for some boring fights once boh fighters got exhausted)....
Trumpetz811 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811Virtually every great fighter has got stuck with a few judges decisions.Its not that they aren't trying to avoid that, its that their opponents are so close to their conditioning and skill that its often unavoidable.Fighting,like all things including logic, is about gambling;probability.The human bodies natural toughness and mobility exceed both its ability to strike and grapple while augmenting both, especially when combined.Therefore, it makes sense that plenty of fights last long.
wiggalama 1 year ago
@Trumpetz811 well if there was never any time or judges then some fights could end by submission,knockout.or exhaustion.But still your right it would be better without them stupid judges.
juanharryhenry 1 year ago
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hayerwtayer999 1 year ago
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TheWeedmovies 1 year ago
Machida > Evans
Evans > Rampage
SO Machida > Rampage
N0SREB 1 year ago
@N0SREB That doesn't mean shit. MMA math never works so it doesn't mean anything, although I think Machida will beat Rampage, MMA math never works.
bcmvp11 1 year ago
@N0SREB wrong
SHAKAtheG 1 year ago
@N0SREB haha it doesnt always work that way buddy.
thebrianel115 1 year ago
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@N0SREB sry guys this message is actually to nosreb i dont know why it went to kanarvin. "I am a Lyoto Machida fan myself but u cannot make assumprtions like that. Certain styles work against another style. Its like rock paper scissors in a way but in a wider range not just 3 cards (cards were rock paper scissors i think u know what i mean). I missed the show but I red that Rampage won by UD"
iversanti 1 year ago
Machida is dead; then Evans in the rematch.
kanarvin 1 year ago
@kanarvin I am a Lyoto Machida fan myself but u cannot make assumprtions like that. Certain styles work against another style. Its like rock paper scissors in a way but in a wider range not just 3 cards (cards were rock paper scissors i think u know what i mean). I missed the show but I red that Rampage won by UD
iversanti 1 year ago