Turbo V6 Vs. LS1

[KODxReignx]

Damn dude u stuck right withh is ass didnt you? Impressive...

[Nathan21h]

i can still never find a good place to buy a turbo for my 3.8 they all want to charge 4k for one

[bucksuade]

More than half of yall probally didn't buy your own v8, so shut the fuck up and stop hating.

[lcarrasco212]

7.90 in the 1/8 is fast

[GMisurdaddy]

People need to realize that this isn't just any v6...it's a Buick v6.

[YngwieGuitarGod]

That car isn't making anywhere near 400hp. More like 330ish on cold day.

[Trock365]

Hi jw what kind of turbo are you using?

[tommy35ss]

Nice, that motor design hadn't seen a turbo since the days of the GNX and Trans Am GTA back in the 80's. Keep it up

[irshcountry]

Why does everyone hate? I am sure if the V6 owner did everything from the start for a Turbo car, right cam, everything running right, would have easily won. Its hard to mod 4th Gen V6 Fbodys b/c for a LONG time, there was not many aftermarket parts. You have V6 Fbodys in the 8s. It's pretty nice when you can get a 96-02 V6 Fbody with the y87 package and run STOCK 14s. Thats Mustang GT Territory :)

[87gunsnroses]

@irshcountry i've raced a couple gt's with my 97 3.8 with the y87 package stock other than k&n filtercharger and i beat em at best by half a car length, didn't lose to a single one of em. car is going 223,xxx miles strong. 3.8 is a damn good v6

[steelcityracer1320]

So the V6 is all stock internals except the cam?. Idk theres not many engines I like more then a LS but this is kinda cool.

[willymywonka]

the sound of a turbo v6 does nothing for me. I don't see the point.

[anynot]

All the money involved in modding that V6 and a bolt on ls1 still beat you? wow.

[SySTeM4T1c]

@anynot i agree, its sad seeing 7k mild bolt on ls1's smoking 15k v6 turbo builds..

[SySTeM4T1c]

@anynot 7k$/15k$ *

[SySTeM4T1c]

@anynot well, i take part of that back, most people that i have seen spend around 15k all together (car and everyhting) for a good turbo build..

[lurch1489]

@SySTeM4T1c yeah, if you have a shop do all your work and you buy everything brand new.

[MrTex1987]

@lurch1489 everything brand new must be broken in before it is any good race wise. But yeah, it is economical to have it done for you....if you make a certain amount a year. But always, a good driver does what new parts cannot.

[jdoggybizzle]

Not bad, not bad at all. Definitely rolls out.

[vfIskullangel]

Do another run at 10lbs of boost please!

[oohklu]

nice

[malfaro08]

my ss camaro will smoke that car

[countthunder]

@malfaro08 LOL you dont have an ss ..... grow up.

[kilralpine]

Lol your kidding right? 415hp and running 7.90s?? i wanna see these videos!

[Aetern142]

@kilralpine I think its 1/8 mi track :)

[Draganeyes]

what rims are on the camaro?

[browneydbillybob]

maybe if you would've saved the money from the turbo and got a v8 you would've been better off than saved more money and turbo'd the v8

[IamAtree000001]

can anyone estimate me what it would cost for a turbo and install into a 2002 v6 camaro?

[kenho3j0k3r]

let me know if u get a response back im lookin for the same answer

[Smokie420ish]

@IamAtree000001 To damn much. Just save up and buy an LS1 off of Craig's list. Your car has the same setup as the V8 as suspension, rearend, same radiator. All you need is motor motor mounts and ecu.

[Draganeyes]

@Smokie420ish what about exuast? and then you have to have gauges reconfigured and not to mention the ls1 has 2 cooling fans v6 only has one then you need the houses (a/c) (heater) (radiatoor to motor) and the different fuel pump and im sure theres others im not thinking about

[Smokie420ish]

@Draganeyes Umm fuel are the same the fuel pump assmebly is controled by the pcm not the fuel pump. The pcm tells the fuel pump how much to suck up and return ect.. from 2000-2002 the base v6s has everything a V8 has same 2 fan cooling system. Not too mention all base for the other years like 93-99 also had the same parts as the V8 did at their time. Ther LT1s don't use a 2 fan cooling system.

[Smokie420ish]

*fuel pumps are the same

[Smokie420ish]

The a/c compressor should be the same the only thing you might need is the a/c condinser. No you do not need to reconfigure the gauges because the pcm does that for you when you reflash it or buy one from a junk yard. The exhaust is the same but you will need the exhaust manifold (meaning stock headers).

[Smokie420ish]

@Draganeyes Most likely will come with the block when you buy it. When you buy the block from someone they should give you the alternator, starter, water pump,fuel rail, intake manifold, motor mounts, etc...

[Smokie420ish]

@Draganeyes The V8 and V6 use the same transmission. a 4L60-E auto or a T-56 Borg Warner six speed(V8) T-45 Borg Warner (V6) These transmissions will bolt up to any 60 or 90 degree GM engine.

[psychotikpaisano]

@Smokie420ish

The 90· tranny's will not bolt up to the 60· v6 engines, ive tried

The 4L series came with both housings, the t-45 and t-5 in 60 and 90· configurations, but sadly, the t-56 will not bolt up to the 60 degree v6's

[josephflynn007]

@Draganeyes

Wrong about the cooling fans. I picked up my 1996 3.8 Camaro and it has two, not one.

[vfIskullangel]

Thats outstanding for just 6 PSI.

Most turboed hondas are pushin more than that and they can barely keep up with a bolt on LS1.

[Bbdrew]

@vfIskullangel You're comparing 1.6L to 5.7L too. The 3800 already makes decent power stock.

[Draganeyes]

Would you rather compare the turbo i4 in cobalts to the 1.6l in the pos hondas? Cobalt will kick its ass... any more complaints?

[Bbdrew]

Uhh what?

You're seriously comparing a factory turbo car to a non-factory turbo car with less displacement?

/facepalm... typical youtube commenters these days

[Locruid]

@vfIskullangel Most Turbo Hondas cant keep up with my Bolt on LT1......

[khdude2000]

@vfIskullangel if at all

[Chevyy91]

damn i cant wait to turbo my 2000 rs...does this one have any upgrades in the bottom end like forged pistons..ect??

[JDMGTP]

you don't need them

[mattthekingdong]

keepin up with the big dowgs.. lol! thats fuckin awsome man!

[Jonnypunk00]

thats keepin up to the ls1 pretty damn good..mine is stock and it pretty well gets raped by ls1s..shit its slow compared to lt1s too lol pretty quick car man

[JeepCherokeeKid]

are you gonna get some forged pistons and rods soon

[newmanto03]

what does bolt on mean, and what is psi?

[nicedreams666]

@newmanto03 A "bolt on" part is pretty much any part that can be bolted on without the need of a retune of the computer, i.e: headers, exhaust, intake ect..psi is pounds per square inch, in this case it refers to the amount of air the turbo is forcing into the cylinders above atmospheric pressure

[newmanto03]

what you had 420 hp and still didnt beat that ls1, maybe it wasn't stock ls1 right?

[WTFBODY]

I have the bolt on LS1. Made 340.

That was the 1st night the Camaro ran.

It was at 6 psi.

The boost got turned up LATER and it ran 7.90s on a 245 street tire and made ~415.

[philthyco]

7.90 in tha 1/8 is decent

[Runkleforskin]

@WTFBODY excuses...

[56oldssuper88]

@WTFBODY 7.90's in 1/8 mile right lol. I know a 400 hp car isnt doing that in the 1/4

[stuntrider15]

@56oldssuper88 yes he means 1/8th

[CantBeatMuscle]

this is the same thing that happens to me, i have a sts turbo firebird and my dad has a ls1 trans am and i still lose, but im running 7psi

[steven97rs]

why does everyone on youtube have to bitch?? nice video man

[Need4Camaro]

I will say I am pretty impressed that it hung with a mildly modded LS1 at 6 PSI with a Cam... Increase the PSI, p&p the top end, and it will make for a very very interesting race. Its awsome to see people making the most out of what they have. Also, when you're not boosting, you can still save a bit of fuel.

[WTFBODY]

The car ran with a cammed LS1 with the boost up, but reached the limit of stock pistons (chipped a few).

LS1 gets better milage, though.

[Need4Camaro]

Curious is your car tuned?

How much did the turbo setup alone cost?

[Meemperor]

You're no where near the limit of a stock series 2 piston. Your tune is off.

[WTFBODY]

420rwhp was pretty good, I thought.

And the cam wasn't meant for boost.

[Meemperor]

No where near the limits of the pistons. Your cam and tune are stopping power. These blocks are good for well over 600whp...

[liquidz28]

@WTFBODY lawl...my ls1 gets better milage than my dsm also....



[carklub]

its possible to turbo an ls1... he was just saying its very hard. its almost impossible to have enough room under the hood so most guys do a rear mount system

[RobertRamey89]

Ok I thought u were saying good luck like it's impossible

[RobertRamey89]

That was my mistake yea but jeffero is retarded

[Jeffero77]

Why am I retarded again? It's not that easy to turbo an Ls1, I didn't say it was impossible and I didn't say it wasn't done just said good luck. So what are you basing this off of? Wishing somebody good luck now makes me retarded? My tone must have been lost in texting translation and I'm sorry. I think it's a great idea but I wouldn't try it myself.

[RobertRamey89]

Good luck? It's done all the time just as ez as a ricer rofl

[RobertRamey89]

So congrats u turboed a v6 if he did the same you wouldn't of posted the vid on youtube

[Jeffero77]

Yeah... putting a turbo on an LS1? Good luck..

[caspernicus]

The ls1 driver is the one that posted the vid.....douche.

[WTFBODY]

Word.

KNOCK KNOCK KNOCKING ON HEAVEN'S DOOOOOR.

[gogear73]

Love the v6 tta wish I had one.

[tackett12345]

why didnt he just buy the ls1?

id rather buy it than waste all that time building the v6

just imo

[WTFBODY]

It runs faster than most cam only cars.

[nautic546]

How much boost could my 96 Z28 V8 handle with #42 injectors, an upgraded fuel pump and computer tunned to higher TQ & HP (I don't know exactly what I'm running on)?

[WTFBODY]

All depends on your cam, headgaskets, manifolds (seals), and how you route it.

Then it depends on your tuning and cooling system, in addition to the opti or replacement of your choice.

Basically, don't try it unless you know what you're getting into. Have fun trying to mount that on an LT1.

[nautic546]

yeah there's no space up front. Can't even get your arm in there. If it goes any were in the future it would be rear mount. From what I've heard, I think I'll stick to bolt-ons for now and build up the motor, after that I can worry about turbo.

[joe00pimp]

wow 6 lbs aint shit for them my old man used to have one and ran it at 14 every time he took it out... fast ass cars tho

[justinschmidt1]

Why you running such a small amount of boost?

I would figure atleast 9-10 psi....

Bump that boost up a little

Kinda gay that you didnt beat that ls1, just my opinion lol

[WTFBODY]

So it's weak that the FIRST time the car is ON the street, it's turned to 6 PSI?

That was just tuning for shift points and AFR on the lowest possible wastegate setting.

Just sayin. The pistons can't handle more than 16 psi.

[justinschmidt1]

didnt kno that, did you bump the boost yet?

[WTFBODY]

Not my car, as I've said a dozen times. I drive the LS1.

He bumped it up to 19 and broke pistons a few times.

[vfIskullangel]

Any car that hangs with a bolt on LS1 is very impressive.

[gittyupalice96]

lol, i bought a v6 camaro so i would have enough left over for a posi LS7 and 6spd, wu ha ha ha, anyone with a ferrari your screwed, thats if the 505hp doesnt twist my car in half first

[portugee1391]

I have a 96' Camaro I want to turbo it using the STS Universal Turbo kit It'll give me about 16-20hp per/lb of boost but I want to keep my Tranny, did you change ur transmission, I have a 5-spd?

[camaroman102]

where did u find tht kit at

[brantford88]

not to bad for 3.8l turbo

[dantheman121983]

how did you set up your turbo? is it a sts or a force fed fab?

[WTFBODY]

^^^Me and a buddy made the hot pipes and I got the cold side piping from ebay.

Log manifolds that come forward of the Motor. Turbo is piped between the alternator and radiator.

[midnightZLS1]

what turbo kit do you have my brother has a STS on his 3800 camaro.

[WTFBODY]

It's not a kit. It's a garrett turbo + an ebay pipe set.

[caspernicus]

Me and a buddy made the hot pipes and I got the cold side piping from ebay.

[caspernicus]

and it's a turbonetics 62-1 turbo.

[ScreamingSnake03]

that little thing is fast for a v6, ive seen you guys at the track in HSV. you need some mods on that TA though dude cant be getting beat by 6ers

[WTFBODY]

If I had the cash, I would have the mods.

Hell, give me 500$ and I can run with him.

[itsafloater]

sick car

[sagagus]

Nice Car, How much have you spent on it?

[WTFBODY]

I got 11 Grand in the TA.

[xXthirdgen88Xx]

You guys have to realize that the v8 has torque advantage off the line, which is where he would of destroyed the 6er... thus the rolling starts...

[WTFBODY]

That's incorrect. The V6 makes good torque boosting off the line.

[darter1075]

Did you miss the begining they started the first race from a dig and it left hard.

[theapparition90]

WOAH WOAH WOAH, are you trying to say that you piece of shit 6 banger can take more boost that an LS1!?!?!?!?! go pick up a book faggot.

[WTFBODY]

It can. Iron holds up better than aluminum in hot environments.

That being said, the LS1 will probably be faster.

[ledyardlax45]

the ls1 would be faster turbo. But an turbo ls1 better be fully built or its gonna last about 10k miles.

the l36 is a cast iron beast. 9-12 psi will turn that thing into a monster

[WTFBODY]

14PSI is what it takes to run with 400 horse cammed cars.

[xlemonhed1]

Yeah now raise that to 18 PSI and see what happens to the LS1

[WTFBODY]

Put the V6 on 18PSI, and you're outrunning cammed stalled auto cars.

Put the LS1 on 18 PSI and you're either forging it, or looking for a new motor once a week.

[superalex1988]

why not turbo an ls1 instead.

[WTFBODY]

More money, No room in front for a turbo, and aluminum doesn't handle turbocharging as easily.

[superalex1988]

STS kits make it alot easier to turbo LS1's.

yea more money but more bang too

[WTFBODY]

Not really. the V6 turbo is faster and more reliable than the STS LS1 in town.

Granted, the STS sounds wicked.... but sound means very little.

[superalex1988]

i just dont really like the V6 engines. the LS1 is not just stronger of the line but more reliable. ive rebuilt 2 in my shop from ppl pushing em around. i like that your car is fast and all but you do a little more to an ls1 and all your doing is staying next to it. imagine that ls1 had a turbo kit too.

[WTFBODY]

The LS1 is MY car.

The V6 is my tuner's car.

He ran an 8.51 in the 6 with a mere 6PSI and having to let out for the auto to shift at 5k with the stock fuel pump.

With a boost controller (20$) He'll be running away from cammed autos at the track.

[superalex1988]

impressive. that 8:51 is in 1/8 of a mile right..

[WTFBODY]

Yeah. It's where most bolt on LS1 cars run.

[solowinglunar]

It really doesn't take much to get the 3.8 S2 to be as powerful as an LS1. You just have to know what your doing. I say that from experience.

[WTFBODY]

Damn Straight.

[theapeman1989]

damn,not bad at all,that v6 is pretty fast.