Nature has no intentions, and the only 'right' course of action is one derrived from moral values and subject to rigorous scientific analysis. Is it outrageous to suggest that treating animals for diseases that my have been introduced by humans in the first place might NOT destroy the forest's ecosystem?
Very coldly put. Have you no heart? I suppose with your same logic we should let all the Afraican's die of starvation and disease as well. After all, " fuck em..." right?
you're confusing what 'is' with what 'should'. we are the ones who create the 'should' and i think we can do a little better than 'fuck em'. They are family, after all.
I think it takes an ignorant human to film an animal and leave it die. A quick spray with insecticide powder would have saved them. And tomorrow you'll be buiding milti-million dollar centers to save the chimps! Ignorance!!
wild chimps dont take kindly to aproaching humans.. monkeys, chimps and all arangitangs are violent agresive strong animals.. if the humans tried 2 save the chimp.. more then ;likely they would have got ripped apart.. monkeys must learn to trust humans on their own... if they are aporached they defenbd their teritoriy.. monkeys even fight tigers in defnec of there areas
@ThePivotFighter That's only because of how humans have treated them and their environment for so many years! All great apes and other animals can say the same thing about humans destroying their homes and hunting them for pure sport. It's in their nature to stay "aggressive" just so that they can defend themselves.
to brojulien and stubbleking: the missions of Save the Chimps and the naturalists taking part in this video are different. Save the Chimps seeks to save the lives of chimpanzees from research laboratories and the pet trade. This clip seeks to tell a story of another species in its natural state with minimal human interference. Through the chimpanzees, we see a face of human life. As the title implies, disease is a measure that nature takes to maintain the jungle ecosystem. We cannot interfere.
I agree with Stubbleking! the BBC don't know what side of the fence they are on, tomorrow thay'll be filming a zoo that saves sick chimps! I say cut their budget!
What I find so baffling is that in this video--they (BBC) sit there and watch them die,. In another video, they show organizations (IE: Save the Chimps) trying to raise them in Zoos. The naturalists don't seem to have a fixed philosophy on animal life!
A shot of flea powder would have saved the chimps! Instead, the BBC sat there and watched them die! How noble! Now you know how the Declaration of Independence came about!
they are there to study them. not to interfere with nature. if they start interfere with chimps lives it's causing them more harm at the end. u do understand this right?
Hi and thanks for reply! I don't agree in leaving animals perish! God gave us intelligence for the good of all living things on earth. I do however respect your views!
Kharion: You are absolutely correct. Gombe is not a zoo, but a preserve and special chimp study area. Interfering even for charity is not good, and could hurt longterm survival of the ape. Nature needs to take its course, or weaker offspring are produced = more dead chimps. Jane Goodall has already been criticized for simply giving bananas to the chimps. That isn't allowed.
mange goes away with topical medecine and a good mange shampoo. if they take time to study them why not treat them with a good vet and a simple routine of baths,antimange drugs, and also be ready to tranquilize them like the orangutan rescue and realease programs.
Gombe is not a Zoo. The purpose of the Preserve is to observe chimps in a natural and undisturbed setting. Interfering with the animal, even for charity, is against scientific protocol. Survival of the fittest could be jeopardized, thus producing weaker & vulnerable future offspring. Jane Goodall has already been criticized for possible interference (giving bananas) in the scientific process at Gombe. It is not likely that rangers would, or should, interfere.
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I hope that posh twat gets mange and no-one intervenes. She can watch her lush hair grow dull and fall out as she fails, hearing the narrator analyze how RILLY RILLY ORFUL this nature thing is. Pity.
God I hate some people. Heartless, above it all. Objective when it comes to OTHERS' suffering.
In the early 1980's there was a National Geographic special on primate researchers who spent 3 years literaly living with orangutans in Borneo. 10 years later they went back and found the orangutans suffering from the following diseases: yaws, leprosy, tuberculosis, dermititis, alopecia, and a textbook's worth of other illnesses.
No it doesn't. The chimps don't have the same immune system as humans. Most likely that whole group will die off, and since chimps don't naturally travel very far, they probably won't spread it to other groups of chimps.
Secondly, why would chimps need to fight off more disease? They've been doing nicely on their own for the past 200,000 years.
with that kind of attitude, what will you say when our primate species go to extinction and we wipe out our orangutan, chimp, gorilla, all wildlife, all our forests, ocean creatures and you see your family members go too, life goes on, right on.
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yes its very stupid but do i know were AIDS came from? monkeys. its not thier fault at all..,some stupid researcher had sex with a monkey and thier diese was transmitted from apes to humans
no......... it started with african tribes that would eat simian brains as a delicacy. It was then mutated from a Simian aids virus to a human aids virus. Don't say that again you are making this planet more ignorant.
Regarding helping him/her. Im not sure they can? To my understanding it is not a researchers place to interfere in nature. Simply observe. Could make things much worse in the long run. Should you get a chimp who is immune to the effects of the disease, but can spread it, it could wipe out many chimps.
i cannot imagine them not intervening if the problem rose to the point where it was destructive to a large number of chimps. at this time, id think, there's value in being able to observe chimp behavior in dealing with such difficulties. the narrator seemed unfamiliar with their behavior and so i assume that something new is being learned here. and because we've evolved from them, we learn something about ourselves.
Belive me when i tell you i can cure the chimps . i have cured mange on dogs . what you do is simpley dip them in burned motor oil . don't laugh that is true try it. used motor oil . simple as that. noel odell
Fifi exposes Fred to the Baboons.
Baboons: Ceasar~~ *kneel*
ShootingStarSeva 1 month ago in playlist Chimpanzee Diary
THE WOMAN AND THE CAMERA CREW ARE HEARTLESS
"UGH DON'T INTERFERE WITH NATURE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND" meanwhile i bet you eat meat
secretstream4 1 month ago
Why isn't the women in the advertisement for that movie in the kitchen?
MisterHeizenberg 2 months ago in playlist Chimpanzee Diary
I guess shooting a hypo of mange cure into fred was out of the question
jsuttonus 6 months ago
Fefe is the same chimp who along with Fanny tried to kill Gremlins twin babies. So don't feel too bad for her, Karma's a bitch!
Frankwolf100 10 months ago
@Frankwolf100 Agreed. Fefe should be poached.
3link1 2 months ago
Nature has no intentions, and the only 'right' course of action is one derrived from moral values and subject to rigorous scientific analysis. Is it outrageous to suggest that treating animals for diseases that my have been introduced by humans in the first place might NOT destroy the forest's ecosystem?
low110392 11 months ago
Polygamous apes share everything, even disease.
riverlioness 1 year ago
Hahaha at 2:04 the baboon in the background is jacking off.
PoCripple 2 years ago
Sshhh! Let him have his good time xD
ViruzNoob14 2 years ago
@PoCripple
Naw, its just scratching its forearm.
makodyjk 9 months ago
fuck em. let nature run its course and the strong will survive and the rest will die, as it should be.
ta2joe13 2 years ago
Very coldly put. Have you no heart? I suppose with your same logic we should let all the Afraican's die of starvation and disease as well. After all, " fuck em..." right?
MarksLostEnigma 2 years ago
Your darwinistic side is really affecting you... or should I say... you stupidity.
Breezermq 2 years ago
It's survival of the fittest. Just as nature intended it to be.
DobermanGinGin 2 years ago 4
Which would be perfectly correct if the population of apes hadn't been massively lowered by humna, not natural influence.
mddz23 2 years ago
you're confusing what 'is' with what 'should'. we are the ones who create the 'should' and i think we can do a little better than 'fuck em'. They are family, after all.
jacksawild 2 years ago
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Humans are the real worthless vermin on this planet
wks1978 2 years ago
mange is a parasite that clings to the animal. It can be easily cured!
Prairesoul 2 years ago
I think it takes an ignorant human to film an animal and leave it die. A quick spray with insecticide powder would have saved them. And tomorrow you'll be buiding milti-million dollar centers to save the chimps! Ignorance!!
Prairesoul 2 years ago
wild chimps dont take kindly to aproaching humans.. monkeys, chimps and all arangitangs are violent agresive strong animals.. if the humans tried 2 save the chimp.. more then ;likely they would have got ripped apart.. monkeys must learn to trust humans on their own... if they are aporached they defenbd their teritoriy.. monkeys even fight tigers in defnec of there areas
ThePivotFighter 2 years ago 2
@ThePivotFighter That's only because of how humans have treated them and their environment for so many years! All great apes and other animals can say the same thing about humans destroying their homes and hunting them for pure sport. It's in their nature to stay "aggressive" just so that they can defend themselves.
DobermanGinGin 2 years ago
and fuck up the whole ecosystem...... I hate ignorant peta assholes
Dannyb0y24 2 years ago 3
they also want you die, you look like a vermin to them,
iankarlo01 2 years ago
i hope they all die. worthless vermin
ta2joe13 2 years ago 2
They obviously have more of a right to live than you do.
AFROMANFAN 2 years ago
if you say so there slappy
ta2joe13 2 years ago
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you evolved from that vermin, idiot
danophile07 2 years ago
to brojulien and stubbleking: the missions of Save the Chimps and the naturalists taking part in this video are different. Save the Chimps seeks to save the lives of chimpanzees from research laboratories and the pet trade. This clip seeks to tell a story of another species in its natural state with minimal human interference. Through the chimpanzees, we see a face of human life. As the title implies, disease is a measure that nature takes to maintain the jungle ecosystem. We cannot interfere.
runinmusic 2 years ago 7
A fine response. Do-gooders take heed. The man knows of what he speaks.
aliveinsd 2 years ago 2
''disease is a measure that nature takes to maintain the jungle ecosystem. We cannot interfere.''
You're speaking of ''nature'' as it was some sort of god with a will. It's not and nature in the sense you're speaking about doesn't exist.
We're just as much a part of it as the disease. Whatever we choose to do, it's nature, not an ''interfere'' with it.
SwedxSimon02 2 years ago 3
what if it does? ure closing ur brain my rational friend, the possibilities are endless, we know shit for knowledge about this universe
alexns 2 years ago
3:13 ..........nice pooper
tylerhorn1234 2 years ago
I agree with Stubbleking! the BBC don't know what side of the fence they are on, tomorrow thay'll be filming a zoo that saves sick chimps! I say cut their budget!
brojulien 2 years ago
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brojulien 2 years ago
What I find so baffling is that in this video--they (BBC) sit there and watch them die,. In another video, they show organizations (IE: Save the Chimps) trying to raise them in Zoos. The naturalists don't seem to have a fixed philosophy on animal life!
stubbleking 2 years ago
A shot of flea powder would have saved the chimps! Instead, the BBC sat there and watched them die! How noble! Now you know how the Declaration of Independence came about!
stubbleking 2 years ago
they are there to study them. not to interfere with nature. if they start interfere with chimps lives it's causing them more harm at the end. u do understand this right?
kharion 2 years ago 5
Hi and thanks for reply! I don't agree in leaving animals perish! God gave us intelligence for the good of all living things on earth. I do however respect your views!
stubbleking 2 years ago
Kharion: You are absolutely correct. Gombe is not a zoo, but a preserve and special chimp study area. Interfering even for charity is not good, and could hurt longterm survival of the ape. Nature needs to take its course, or weaker offspring are produced = more dead chimps. Jane Goodall has already been criticized for simply giving bananas to the chimps. That isn't allowed.
aliveinsd 2 years ago 2
Fucking hippies.
Animals need to die from disease, it's how they've come to involve and very so much this far.
yuutokun 2 years ago 4
THIS BROKE MY HEART
lucymarykathyrn 3 years ago
sure fire cure for mange is a 150 grain .308 bullet at 3500 feet per second
ta2joe13 3 years ago 4
Nice, you rock!!!!!
billplatinum6 3 years ago 4
thanks i try. filthy vermin.
ta2joe13 3 years ago 3
mange goes away with topical medecine and a good mange shampoo. if they take time to study them why not treat them with a good vet and a simple routine of baths,antimange drugs, and also be ready to tranquilize them like the orangutan rescue and realease programs.
creedsuxass 3 years ago
Gombe is not a Zoo. The purpose of the Preserve is to observe chimps in a natural and undisturbed setting. Interfering with the animal, even for charity, is against scientific protocol. Survival of the fittest could be jeopardized, thus producing weaker & vulnerable future offspring. Jane Goodall has already been criticized for possible interference (giving bananas) in the scientific process at Gombe. It is not likely that rangers would, or should, interfere.
aliveinsd 3 years ago 2
I agree with you 100% What a gang of morons that watch the Chimps die!
stubbleking 2 years ago
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I hope that posh twat gets mange and no-one intervenes. She can watch her lush hair grow dull and fall out as she fails, hearing the narrator analyze how RILLY RILLY ORFUL this nature thing is. Pity.
God I hate some people. Heartless, above it all. Objective when it comes to OTHERS' suffering.
TrwyrDrych 3 years ago
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stupid woman, why would you show up in the movie? we don't want to see you, go away please don't waste our time to see your ugly face.
zzfinance 3 years ago
is that all you have to say, you stupid asshole.
asphyxxx 3 years ago
That primatologist is hot
urdaaj4 3 years ago
poor guy
thehunjo 4 years ago
wut a jerk.......ne one who said :die monkey" or "u worthless peice of crap"....well u got no heart!!!!
smileygirly99 4 years ago
In the early 1980's there was a National Geographic special on primate researchers who spent 3 years literaly living with orangutans in Borneo. 10 years later they went back and found the orangutans suffering from the following diseases: yaws, leprosy, tuberculosis, dermititis, alopecia, and a textbook's worth of other illnesses.
Where did they get them from?
A BUNCH OF IGNORANT PRIMATES CALLED HOMO SAPIENS.
MondoBeno 4 years ago 5
Sad, yes. But in the longterm viewpoint of evolution, this is only granting the orangutans stronger genes to fight off more disease.
sugarmagnolia17 3 years ago 2
No it doesn't. The chimps don't have the same immune system as humans. Most likely that whole group will die off, and since chimps don't naturally travel very far, they probably won't spread it to other groups of chimps.
Secondly, why would chimps need to fight off more disease? They've been doing nicely on their own for the past 200,000 years.
MondoBeno 3 years ago
Why does anything need to happen? It just does. And life goes on.
sugarmagnolia17 3 years ago 2
with that kind of attitude, what will you say when our primate species go to extinction and we wipe out our orangutan, chimp, gorilla, all wildlife, all our forests, ocean creatures and you see your family members go too, life goes on, right on.
creedsuxass 3 years ago
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yes its very stupid but do i know were AIDS came from? monkeys. its not thier fault at all..,some stupid researcher had sex with a monkey and thier diese was transmitted from apes to humans
xprincessmox 3 years ago
how would you have sex with a monkey?? walk up with a bouquet of flowers?
RetardRage99 2 years ago 2
That's unlikely. Its more likely someone ate infected monkey or ape meat and got the disease that way.
loner1878 2 years ago 3
no......... it started with african tribes that would eat simian brains as a delicacy. It was then mutated from a Simian aids virus to a human aids virus. Don't say that again you are making this planet more ignorant.
Dannyb0y24 2 years ago
That is pretty sad, but they do seem to care a lot about their own kind.
LordXehenniar 4 years ago 3
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Die you monkey piece of shit!!
Zxzm 4 years ago
At the risk of sounding like an after school special, I think we learned who the real monkey is today. You worthless scum.
SolAurum 4 years ago
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Monkey lover...
Zxzm 4 years ago
Ignorant fool...
SolAurum 4 years ago 4
:(... Thank you for sharing..
Regarding helping him/her. Im not sure they can? To my understanding it is not a researchers place to interfere in nature. Simply observe. Could make things much worse in the long run. Should you get a chimp who is immune to the effects of the disease, but can spread it, it could wipe out many chimps.
Subfightr 4 years ago 4
i cannot imagine them not intervening if the problem rose to the point where it was destructive to a large number of chimps. at this time, id think, there's value in being able to observe chimp behavior in dealing with such difficulties. the narrator seemed unfamiliar with their behavior and so i assume that something new is being learned here. and because we've evolved from them, we learn something about ourselves.
coke20x 4 years ago
indeed.
Subfightr 4 years ago
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Bleedin' chimps, one minute they're trying to beat up humans, the next they're dieing of some disease! Which one is it chimps?! Make up your minds!
Lormac 4 years ago
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HAHAAHHA LOL!
coke20x 4 years ago
that was so sad :( why didnt they cure him :(
mico2020 4 years ago
it's hard, not like the mother would take them in for injections. they tried antybiotics in bananas...(not jk)
greengrendel 4 years ago
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Salty Fingers Killer was here...
SaltyFingersKiller 4 years ago
Africa in action!
veronesedissident 4 years ago
you think i'm kidding i am not what do you have to loose do as i say and if you answer me answer in english. noel odell
digger652002 4 years ago
muie
JarreLL1011 4 years ago
sugi pula si cu curu si cu gura.
JarreLL1011 4 years ago
Belive me when i tell you i can cure the chimps . i have cured mange on dogs . what you do is simpley dip them in burned motor oil . don't laugh that is true try it. used motor oil . simple as that. noel odell
digger652002 4 years ago
I believe you, it cured you, and you are a baboon.
sbibawi 4 years ago
Sa-mi iei coaiele-n gura.
JarreLL1011 4 years ago
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hahahaha your a baboon
rolficus 4 years ago