the jews are doing the same as they the nazis treated them to the palestians its a jke i couldn't careless about if a nazi flag was shown to any jew because their flag is like the nazi one but only to the palestians the thing is vietnam is laughing at you the war is over in vietnam ho chi minh's men unifed the country and if it never happened we'd be talking about border disputes in vietnam the vietnamese are lucky ive wanted my coutry united with the SOUTH - Ireland
Telling these people to treat the communist flag as a part of art that celebrate harmony is like telling Holocaust survivors to accept the swastika as a symbol of harmony between Jews and people who carry on the Nazi ideology. Fuck that, burn the communist flag.
@RealmEternal Woww that was a stupid thing to say. The North freed the South from America. Waving the South flag is like waving a Nazi flag at Holocaust survivors. Nazis just killed Jews, Americans just killed Vietnamese. Get a clue.
@MaoistRebelNews2 The communist regime in north Vietnam raped and pillaged the south. It slaughtered its own people en mass like EVERY OTHER communist regime that ever existed. Why don't you little communist wannabe crawl out of your hole in a CAPTIALIST first world nation and spend five years in an actual communist/maoist country like North Korea, Laos or Somalia and tell me how well communism is working out there. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.
@RealmEternal i'm pretty sure the americans treated the vietnamese worst. the americans didn't even try to set up a democracy in south vietnam, instead putting some tyrannical corrupt guy as the leader
@IanLim455612 Let me give you an example. S. Korea was a military dictatorship during the Korean war, much like S. Vietnam. But since the US was able to maintain the independence of S. Korea, they were able to use their influence to steer the country into democracy. S. Korea today is a first world nation with a booming economy, compare that with N. Korea. Communism has proven to be backward and undemocratic time and again all over the world.
@RealmEternal That's not true at all, the South Korean people ousted the military dictators that the USA supported. Look up the April Revolution and the June Democracy Movement.
@Gumbl897 It's funny how non-violent protests for democracy only work in civilized, non-communist nations (or at least backed by them). If north Korea took over the south, let's just say no amount of peaceful protesting would have ousted them. Why you ask? Because the peaceful protestors would have been MASSACRED by the regular army with machine guns and tank divisions just like how peaceful Chinese pro-Western demonstrators were massacred in Tienanmen square.
@RealmEternal The Tianmen Square rebels were protesting the Chinese government's transition to capitalism as it left the students without work, not to bring about western-style democracy. Also, the South Korean movements were subjected to violence and torture, while countries like the USA ignored what was happening.
@Gumbl897 The ignorance of your comment just blew my mind. The Chinese students brought a statue called "Goddess of DEMOCRACY" (look it up on wikipedia) to symbolize their cause. Also, at least no US backed dictator had the balls to massacre peaceful protestor with machine guns. They knew the US would disown them. Communist regimes, being communists, obviously had no such reservations when they called in a MOTHERFUCKING TANK DIVISION to slaughter unarmed students.
@RealmEternal Gumbl, Democracy is a state of society, NOT a political ideology. So, Capitalism is not synonymous with Democracy. (See: Nazi Germany, Fascist italy for two good examples) - Communism, in it's true form, is real horizontal democracy. We wish to abolish government, and get rid of all leaders
@ComradeLer Capitalism is not synonymous with democracy, but both are synonymous with the West and opposite to Communism. And no, communism is not democracy in any of its forms. Communism believes in a strong government that regulates all aspect of life. The difference between ideal and actual communism is how benevolent the government is. If you want to abolish government, you're an anarchist.
@RealmEternal Communists are basically Anarchists, except we believe in a transitional stage to reach a stateless society. This will serve to destroy ecnomic and social class, as well as get rid of hatred, greed, all that. Have you ever read the marx, or any other communist theory? No? Well don't try to tell us what we believe then, because we are already quite aware of what we actually believe in.
@ComradeLer I'm 100% sure we don't wish to abolish government or get rid of all leaders, this is utopic socialism. Communism seeks to end exploitation and alienation by destroying the bourgeois State and economy, creating a worker's State ("the transformation of quantity in quality"), destroying the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, crushing capitalism with the dictatorship of the proletariat, creating a government which "oppresses the oppressors" and a collectivist economy.
@ComradeLer Leadership is natural, since socialist society grows up from capitalist society, where the proletarian has no or little political and economic freedom, or even interest in politics. History proved that socialism needs a political party composed of professional revolutionaries, armed with professional theory and practice, the vanguard of the proletariat ... for the proletariat to ensure its victory and not be crushed by capitalism. Spontaneism is weak, fragile.
@Gumbl897 By the way the Goddess of Democracy statue was based on the Statue of Liberty hence the name; and I am still baffled by your audacity to spew outrageous lies with zero regard to historic accuracy. I knew distorting facts is what communists do but, damn, at least put in some effort.
@Gumbl897 You do realize that the students at tianmen square were Communists, right? They were protesting the recent capitalist 'Reforms' in the country. Since the 1970's, China has been Capitalist. Also, look up the date '9/11'. You will see that in 1972, the Us-Backed dictator Pinochet murdered 300'000 Communists and Socialists, torturing many of them and starving the rest in huge arenas. Look up also the Afghanistan and Iraq wars - 2 million CHILDREN alone murdered by the US.
@Gumbl897 Oh, and guess what? More people have died in the last 2 months, at the hands of the police in the Occupy movement, in the us, than the total number of people who died protesting in the soviet union in 1991. Capitalism has directly murdered 1.6 billion people, I will be happy to link you to a list if you want.
@marcelthemaoist This country is built on the the principles and ideals of capitalism, if you don't like it GTFO. Why do you want to stay here anyways, surely you would rather be in some Maoist backwater in Africa.
@marcelthemaoist You're just full of hypocrisy aren't you. If this is Indian land then why are you still here? All the more reason for you to GTFO. Give your house to the Native Americans.
@RealmEternal I don't own a house. I'm here to make sure that parasites $ettlers like you get your just deserts when the majority of the world comes knocking for justice. Don't worry, it will come. Don't like it? GTFO.
@marcelthemaoist And how are you not a "parasite settler"? You refuse to leave and give back the land to who you claim to be the "rightful owners". How pathetic. At least I don't have the hypocrisy of saying the land belongs to someone else and still settling on it regardless. I don't know what your delusions about the world knocking for justice is, but sure, whatever gets you through the night.
@RealmEternal I don't need anything to "get me through the night". I sleep just fine knowing that I am a thorn in the side or your beloved nation, exploiting it, robbing and cheating it every chance I get. I have not refused to leave anything, I have not stolen any land. All first worlders are parasites on the world, the difference between me and you is that I'm here to help fuck up the lives of those in the first world, you're here to get fucked, eventually all will get their turn.
@marcelthemaoist All I'm trying to do here is to point you to your hypocrisy. You accuse me of stealing Indian land, yet you live on the same stolen land, refuse to return it to its rightful owners, and do so proudly. You call me "parasite first worlder", yet you shamelessly continue living in a first world nation and exploit the fruits of those who built it, while detesting the same people. Obviously you are the parasite, a hypocritical one.
@RealmEternal I don't care about hypocrisy, it doesn't matter to me at all. I'm a 5th generation $ettler on stolen land, I've accepted that and also that it needs to be destroyed by any means necessary. In the meantime, when in Rome do as the Romans do. If that bothers you or upsets you, all the more happier it makes me. So keep pointing all you like, I don't care. In fact, I love it..
Whether or not the artist at hand knew about that red flag's offensiveness to those who were directly or indirectly affected by those who served under that flag.. is not the question. As Mr. Phong says, the three red stripe flag is an embodiment of all the pain and suffering many people endured. While I do agree that as Australians, we are entitled to our own opinions, that Kon Gouriotis has no idea what he's talking about. The red flag to many is like a nazi flag to a jewish person.. offensive.
That's tired.. I didn't see any problem...Conversely, I am really happy when two flags painted next to each other like that.. Show the hope for forgiveness from the both sides.. War is the suffering from both sides.. Not only one..
@adaleeHoang When thousands... no... more like MILLIONS of people were killed, tortured, violated and persecuted all under that red flag... those people have a moral right to be offended. One may argue that the communists wanted to reunify the two sides... great!
@viiietdude North, central, south = we're all Vietnamese. HOWEVER, along the way to achieving that penultimate goal... those communists and their supporters ruined the lives of an entire generation of Vietnamese who just wanted to live a decent life. They murdered their own countrymen... now the same could be said from the other side... however corrupt or "illegitimate" the southern govt was... the fact remains that it was a sovereign state. The south did not empeach upon northern soil...
the jews are doing the same as they the nazis treated them to the palestians its a jke i couldn't careless about if a nazi flag was shown to any jew because their flag is like the nazi one but only to the palestians the thing is vietnam is laughing at you the war is over in vietnam ho chi minh's men unifed the country and if it never happened we'd be talking about border disputes in vietnam the vietnamese are lucky ive wanted my coutry united with the SOUTH - Ireland
XxshughesxX 2 months ago
Censorship sucks.
AquariaSpirit 2 months ago
1:57 someone kill this bitch -.-
denis505 2 months ago
2:11 a like a somebooooodyyy
R3dSt4r90 2 months ago
The VC should finish all these fools off
AWAREOFTRUTHdotCOM 2 months ago
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mikess56 2 months ago
@qthangoe good, they got what they deserved for sucking ameriKKKan and French dick.
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
Telling these people to treat the communist flag as a part of art that celebrate harmony is like telling Holocaust survivors to accept the swastika as a symbol of harmony between Jews and people who carry on the Nazi ideology. Fuck that, burn the communist flag.
RealmEternal 3 months ago
@RealmEternal Woww that was a stupid thing to say. The North freed the South from America. Waving the South flag is like waving a Nazi flag at Holocaust survivors. Nazis just killed Jews, Americans just killed Vietnamese. Get a clue.
MaoistRebelNews2 2 months ago
@MaoistRebelNews2 The communist regime in north Vietnam raped and pillaged the south. It slaughtered its own people en mass like EVERY OTHER communist regime that ever existed. Why don't you little communist wannabe crawl out of your hole in a CAPTIALIST first world nation and spend five years in an actual communist/maoist country like North Korea, Laos or Somalia and tell me how well communism is working out there. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal i'm pretty sure the americans treated the vietnamese worst. the americans didn't even try to set up a democracy in south vietnam, instead putting some tyrannical corrupt guy as the leader
IanLim455612 2 months ago
@IanLim455612 Right, because the communist regime is all about democracy with their single party rule and absolute state authority. Oh wait...
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@IanLim455612 Let me give you an example. S. Korea was a military dictatorship during the Korean war, much like S. Vietnam. But since the US was able to maintain the independence of S. Korea, they were able to use their influence to steer the country into democracy. S. Korea today is a first world nation with a booming economy, compare that with N. Korea. Communism has proven to be backward and undemocratic time and again all over the world.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal That's not true at all, the South Korean people ousted the military dictators that the USA supported. Look up the April Revolution and the June Democracy Movement.
Gumbl897 2 months ago
@Gumbl897 It's funny how non-violent protests for democracy only work in civilized, non-communist nations (or at least backed by them). If north Korea took over the south, let's just say no amount of peaceful protesting would have ousted them. Why you ask? Because the peaceful protestors would have been MASSACRED by the regular army with machine guns and tank divisions just like how peaceful Chinese pro-Western demonstrators were massacred in Tienanmen square.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal The Tianmen Square rebels were protesting the Chinese government's transition to capitalism as it left the students without work, not to bring about western-style democracy. Also, the South Korean movements were subjected to violence and torture, while countries like the USA ignored what was happening.
Gumbl897 2 months ago
@Gumbl897 The ignorance of your comment just blew my mind. The Chinese students brought a statue called "Goddess of DEMOCRACY" (look it up on wikipedia) to symbolize their cause. Also, at least no US backed dictator had the balls to massacre peaceful protestor with machine guns. They knew the US would disown them. Communist regimes, being communists, obviously had no such reservations when they called in a MOTHERFUCKING TANK DIVISION to slaughter unarmed students.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal Gumbl, Democracy is a state of society, NOT a political ideology. So, Capitalism is not synonymous with Democracy. (See: Nazi Germany, Fascist italy for two good examples) - Communism, in it's true form, is real horizontal democracy. We wish to abolish government, and get rid of all leaders
ComradeLer 2 months ago
@ComradeLer Annd damn. Meant that for Realm. Sorry Gumbl. <3
ComradeLer 2 months ago
@ComradeLer Capitalism is not synonymous with democracy, but both are synonymous with the West and opposite to Communism. And no, communism is not democracy in any of its forms. Communism believes in a strong government that regulates all aspect of life. The difference between ideal and actual communism is how benevolent the government is. If you want to abolish government, you're an anarchist.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal Communists are basically Anarchists, except we believe in a transitional stage to reach a stateless society. This will serve to destroy ecnomic and social class, as well as get rid of hatred, greed, all that. Have you ever read the marx, or any other communist theory? No? Well don't try to tell us what we believe then, because we are already quite aware of what we actually believe in.
ComradeLer 2 months ago
@ComradeLer I'm 100% sure we don't wish to abolish government or get rid of all leaders, this is utopic socialism. Communism seeks to end exploitation and alienation by destroying the bourgeois State and economy, creating a worker's State ("the transformation of quantity in quality"), destroying the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, crushing capitalism with the dictatorship of the proletariat, creating a government which "oppresses the oppressors" and a collectivist economy.
xRHYDDERCHx 2 months ago
@ComradeLer Leadership is natural, since socialist society grows up from capitalist society, where the proletarian has no or little political and economic freedom, or even interest in politics. History proved that socialism needs a political party composed of professional revolutionaries, armed with professional theory and practice, the vanguard of the proletariat ... for the proletariat to ensure its victory and not be crushed by capitalism. Spontaneism is weak, fragile.
xRHYDDERCHx 2 months ago
@Gumbl897 By the way the Goddess of Democracy statue was based on the Statue of Liberty hence the name; and I am still baffled by your audacity to spew outrageous lies with zero regard to historic accuracy. I knew distorting facts is what communists do but, damn, at least put in some effort.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal lol North raided the South that's a good one idiot, the US raided the North fucktard.
MaoistRebelNews2 2 months ago
@Gumbl897 You do realize that the students at tianmen square were Communists, right? They were protesting the recent capitalist 'Reforms' in the country. Since the 1970's, China has been Capitalist. Also, look up the date '9/11'. You will see that in 1972, the Us-Backed dictator Pinochet murdered 300'000 Communists and Socialists, torturing many of them and starving the rest in huge arenas. Look up also the Afghanistan and Iraq wars - 2 million CHILDREN alone murdered by the US.
ComradeLer 2 months ago
@Gumbl897 Oh, and guess what? More people have died in the last 2 months, at the hands of the police in the Occupy movement, in the us, than the total number of people who died protesting in the soviet union in 1991. Capitalism has directly murdered 1.6 billion people, I will be happy to link you to a list if you want.
ComradeLer 2 months ago
@Gumbl897 Sorry gumbl, meant to reply to realm.
ComradeLer 2 months ago
@RealmEternal Somalia? You have got to be kidding, that place is free-market fundamentalism on steroids.
DoubleO7even 2 months ago
@RealmEternal Burn imperialist assholes for being mass murderers and national traitors. What kind of patriots side with invaders? Failbags.
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
@marcelthemaoist GTFO of our capitalist country.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal This isn't your country.
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
@marcelthemaoist This country is built on the the principles and ideals of capitalism, if you don't like it GTFO. Why do you want to stay here anyways, surely you would rather be in some Maoist backwater in Africa.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal Actually, it's first nations land, and if you don't like that GTFO.
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
@marcelthemaoist You're just full of hypocrisy aren't you. If this is Indian land then why are you still here? All the more reason for you to GTFO. Give your house to the Native Americans.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal I don't own a house. I'm here to make sure that parasites $ettlers like you get your just deserts when the majority of the world comes knocking for justice. Don't worry, it will come. Don't like it? GTFO.
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
@marcelthemaoist And how are you not a "parasite settler"? You refuse to leave and give back the land to who you claim to be the "rightful owners". How pathetic. At least I don't have the hypocrisy of saying the land belongs to someone else and still settling on it regardless. I don't know what your delusions about the world knocking for justice is, but sure, whatever gets you through the night.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal I don't need anything to "get me through the night". I sleep just fine knowing that I am a thorn in the side or your beloved nation, exploiting it, robbing and cheating it every chance I get. I have not refused to leave anything, I have not stolen any land. All first worlders are parasites on the world, the difference between me and you is that I'm here to help fuck up the lives of those in the first world, you're here to get fucked, eventually all will get their turn.
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
@marcelthemaoist All I'm trying to do here is to point you to your hypocrisy. You accuse me of stealing Indian land, yet you live on the same stolen land, refuse to return it to its rightful owners, and do so proudly. You call me "parasite first worlder", yet you shamelessly continue living in a first world nation and exploit the fruits of those who built it, while detesting the same people. Obviously you are the parasite, a hypocritical one.
RealmEternal 2 months ago
@RealmEternal I don't care about hypocrisy, it doesn't matter to me at all. I'm a 5th generation $ettler on stolen land, I've accepted that and also that it needs to be destroyed by any means necessary. In the meantime, when in Rome do as the Romans do. If that bothers you or upsets you, all the more happier it makes me. So keep pointing all you like, I don't care. In fact, I love it..
marcelthemaoist 2 months ago
Whether or not the artist at hand knew about that red flag's offensiveness to those who were directly or indirectly affected by those who served under that flag.. is not the question. As Mr. Phong says, the three red stripe flag is an embodiment of all the pain and suffering many people endured. While I do agree that as Australians, we are entitled to our own opinions, that Kon Gouriotis has no idea what he's talking about. The red flag to many is like a nazi flag to a jewish person.. offensive.
viiietdude 11 months ago
the artist is a dumbshit
uberster 1 year ago
The dogs look so beautiful.. Love it..
candybar123486 1 year ago
That's tired.. I didn't see any problem...Conversely, I am really happy when two flags painted next to each other like that.. Show the hope for forgiveness from the both sides.. War is the suffering from both sides.. Not only one..
candybar123486 1 year ago
these so called community leaders are ridiculous, they're jokes..
how can they compare the official vietnamese flag to the nazi symbol?
must anything about vietnam is for them to see?
dont like it?..dont look at it, simple!
adaleeHoang 2 years ago
@adaleeHoang When thousands... no... more like MILLIONS of people were killed, tortured, violated and persecuted all under that red flag... those people have a moral right to be offended. One may argue that the communists wanted to reunify the two sides... great!
viiietdude 11 months ago
@viiietdude North, central, south = we're all Vietnamese. HOWEVER, along the way to achieving that penultimate goal... those communists and their supporters ruined the lives of an entire generation of Vietnamese who just wanted to live a decent life. They murdered their own countrymen... now the same could be said from the other side... however corrupt or "illegitimate" the southern govt was... the fact remains that it was a sovereign state. The south did not empeach upon northern soil...
viiietdude 11 months ago
chi mai long can di chet di
insanelygreatproduct 3 years ago
I think that by creating a diverse idea with many culture working out their differences is a good idea.
richdawginthehouse 3 years ago 4
@richdawginthehouse indeed, so then should we start placing Nazi flags around? Of course not.
viiietdude 11 months ago